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  • @grimreapers
    @grimreapers  Год назад +10

    Ukraine-Russia Series:
    Rus Bombers vs Modernized Patriot: ruclips.net/video/4Y961tLNE18/видео.html
    JDAM vs S-400 Network: ruclips.net/video/wP4sfDG-01E/видео.html
    Kinzhal vs Pac-3 & IRIS-T: ruclips.net/video/i0GzbajI0mU/видео.html
    F16 or Gripen for Ukraine?: ruclips.net/video/Y-k71nfap4Q/видео.html
    Mig-31 vs NATO Black Sea AWACS: ruclips.net/video/vFOzjW25ItI/видео.html
    R-37M Long Range Shootdown: ruclips.net/video/-3LKGL4w9Q4/видео.html
    Drone Swarm vs NATO Defense: ruclips.net/video/wDBOSd9qCDs/видео.html
    Patrio PAC-3/IRIS-T vs Missiles: ruclips.net/video/N5Z81iW8YNY/видео.html
    MANPAD/IRIS-T vs Russian Missiles: ruclips.net/video/N9R9GUVcTyk/видео.html
    AGM-158C LRASM vs Sevastopol: ruclips.net/video/GDZoDRhIIRw/видео.html
    A-10s Operating in S-400 Nets: ruclips.net/video/5BwFlesg42o/видео.html
    Modernized Su-27 vs Su-35: ruclips.net/video/7llLDzeT2Bs/видео.html
    Modernized F15/F16 vs Su-35: ruclips.net/video/-TozTHbAXVs/видео.html
    Can Su-57 Defend Russia From F-22/35: ruclips.net/video/E-oC3NgxC94/видео.html
    IMPROVED Stealth vs Russian Bombers: ruclips.net/video/IgwLW4YKvVU/видео.html
    Ukraine Using Hellfire Missile?: ruclips.net/video/s_1YHDTmPPw/видео.html
    US Harpoons vs Russian Navy: ruclips.net/video/Oiee83CWRcE/видео.html
    Ukraine Using APKWS?: ruclips.net/video/FBxV9YuAfaw/видео.html
    Ukraine US HARMs vs Russian S-400: ruclips.net/video/eSyEOXsjWo8/видео.html
    Patriot/NASAMS vs Supersonic Missiles: ruclips.net/video/i1q7uDeinA4/видео.html
    Fulcrum/Flanker vs Foxbat/Super Flanker: ruclips.net/video/BhXfxc94JAU/видео.html
    NASAMS vs Russian Cruise Missiles: ruclips.net/video/pJI_b95jzpk/видео.html
    Russian KH-47M2 vs Polish Air Force: ruclips.net/video/cnrVxqL5q9w/видео.html
    Su-27 & Drone vs Snake Island: ruclips.net/video/T_oRoU2Ayfo/видео.html
    Su-25s vs Russian Convoy At Kyiv: ruclips.net/video/ryV65bUJzrw/видео.html
    NATO Eurofighters vs Crimean AWACS: ruclips.net/video/EiJ2dFRh95g/видео.html
    Patriot, Gepard & Gripen vs KH-65: ruclips.net/video/ZhxdrNjig1g/видео.html
    A-10s vs Russian Convoy At Kyiv: ruclips.net/video/B0tZoo0uLh4/видео.html
    USN Tomahawk Strike Kerch Bridge: ruclips.net/video/0vpi8xBygV8/видео.html
    USAF Stealth Strike Kerch Bridge: ruclips.net/video/IJbf9Bcxnw0/видео.html
    Ukrainian Jets Strike Kerch Bridge: ruclips.net/video/I8FumuZReB4/видео.html
    F-22 Raptors vs Russian Fighters: ruclips.net/video/ComRcmrwJWk/видео.html
    Raptor/Eagle vs Super Flanker: ruclips.net/video/keqYmuSEo-8/видео.html
    USAF Bombers vs Mariupol Defenses: ruclips.net/video/aCsboOG0QU4/видео.html
    Ukraine Bombs Snake Island: ruclips.net/video/BX696MKdkb8/видео.html
    Stealth Fighters vs Russian Bombers: ruclips.net/video/rym90jnQDsA/видео.html
    Sinking Of Moskva #3: ruclips.net/video/NIjoyIieOzY/видео.html
    Sinking Of Moskva #2: ruclips.net/video/snjfbj_EwW4/видео.html
    Sinking Of Moskva #1: ruclips.net/video/Bxwh6MGLJNc/видео.html
    Russia Nukes Britain: ruclips.net/video/rzk45RFQwA8/видео.html
    Ukraine Uses Danish F-16s: ruclips.net/video/17Pikrp0QaY/видео.html
    Ukraine Uses Polish Mig-29s: ruclips.net/video/zCi4tAIzuOU/видео.html
    Russian-Britain Missile Attack: ruclips.net/video/zwIGfabvzHA/видео.html
    Ghost Of Kyiv: ruclips.net/video/Yrct8V4n1-U/видео.html
    Belgorod Raid: ruclips.net/video/mQykTxt6ftw/видео.html
    Eurofighter/Fulcrum vs Super Flanker: ruclips.net/video/MPyIipEhgR0/видео.html
    US Strike vs Odessa ruclips.net/video/KeiOHgzic6Y/видео.html
    Russian Helo Rocket Lob: ruclips.net/video/118GgGnP_sM/видео.html
    Russian Su-25 vs US Patriot SAM: ruclips.net/video/asp69ZD_tO0/видео.html
    Understanding Russian SAMs: ruclips.net/video/R4xTxLNZXcw/видео.html
    Ukrainian Jets Road Operations: ruclips.net/video/hBpzQhinPbw/видео.html
    Russian 40 Mile Convoy: ruclips.net/video/Vr_-2FLblBk/видео.html
    Flanker vs Super Flanker: ruclips.net/video/VOAuOFLJGk4/видео.html

    • @Mrizing
      @Mrizing Год назад

      Here's a idea for you just play Google maps all you do is blah blah blah blah shut up anymore you sound like you have a black dick in your mouth

    • @TraditionalAnglican
      @TraditionalAnglican Год назад

      @@Mrizing - No one is making you watch Grim Reapers, so you don’t have to watch it.

    • @stgyors8540
      @stgyors8540 Год назад

      You make a whole series about it, thanks cap

    • @droman608
      @droman608 7 месяцев назад

      Expectation:
      The Russian Air Force: “We will apply this in our Special Military Operation.”
      Reality:
      The Russian Air Force: “We can’t get off the ground without a plane falling due to lack of maintenance or enemy interception.”
      The F-22: “LET ME EAT!”

  • @HockeyFan1972
    @HockeyFan1972 Год назад +86

    To answer your question: I HAVE seen a PATRIOT go off. Desert Storm and at White Sands. Loud as hell, gone in an instant, turned the sand behind the launcher to glass!

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Год назад +28

      WoW!

    • @jamesmaddison4546
      @jamesmaddison4546 Год назад +4

      Question, were you involved at all in the development of the patriot systems? if you were, you might either know or worked with my father. Name is Jim Madewell.
      He was a fighter pilot, retired in very early 80s and went to work as an engineer then became one of the chief weapons inspectors overseeing the north texas region. He would have to evaluate, test, certify etc all weapons systems that came out of this region, he reported to the dod. Some of the projects he worked on was patriot, javelin/stinger, losat, some agm systems but i cant remember the names.
      He would be gone at white sands for a week or 2 quite often testing all the stuff. At home it was funny sometimes, he'd be on his work computer reviewing test footage, plans etc and whenever id walk by he would block the screen and be like you saw nothing 😂
      He did make sure to emphasize to me that if i ever do happen to see the stuff, I better not go telling my friends about the cool things im working on lol

    • @HockeyFan1972
      @HockeyFan1972 Год назад +1

      @@jamesmaddison4546 Sorry man, I have not met him. I was just a lowly PFC/SPC in a PATRIOT firing battery. LOL. We went to White Sands once every 2 years to fire 1 missile. That's it. 1! at (then prices) 1.5 Million a piece, it cost too much to train with live ammo! Happy when I switched to the Field Artillery, then we could make boom booms all day long! Anyhoo, that would be a cool job to have, your old man. I am proud though to be a former PATRIOT Missile Crewmember. I woked in the launcher platoon, and then the Fire Control Platoon. It was a good system then, cant imagine how the upgrades in technology have it today!

    • @ROTNReaper
      @ROTNReaper Год назад +5

      I've been present for over 30 patriot missile fires and never seen it turn the sand to glass. But the rest is pretty accurate

    • @HockeyFan1972
      @HockeyFan1972 Год назад +2

      @ROTNReaper Gaming in Daharan during DS, the sand crystallized after the launches. When we looked at it closer, it was glass, but yea it didn't make a Paine window! Lol. I still have a baggie full of half a handful.

  • @mbplaysgames
    @mbplaysgames Год назад +10

    It would be interesting to see how a one two punch would be done. Use the patriot/ s-300 to keep planes low and then use manpads to sweep up the low flyers.

  • @alleycatsphinx
    @alleycatsphinx Год назад

    Ugh 16:48.... I'm the dude who sent the pic in front of the real grim reaper, btw. It's a real thing I'm helping others with, and it's sad. ;.;

  • @TinfoilHatWearer
    @TinfoilHatWearer Год назад

    I am praying for you sock... Please feel better my friend. God bless.

  • @Draksyl
    @Draksyl Год назад +138

    Shock horror, attack designed with full knowledge of enemy dispositions and forces manages to win. Now try repeating with human pilots where Cortana places the air defences around a couple of targets for you to attack, but you don't know how many air defences exist or where they are located 😋

    • @raptorblarg2284
      @raptorblarg2284 Год назад +9

      Grim reapers sead vs kortana air defense? Reapers would win but would need to use Fox 4s to win

    • @damonburroughs5283
      @damonburroughs5283 Год назад +12

      I'm sure some comprehensive recon would be conducted before flying in blindly , just as we do

    • @Wyomingchief
      @Wyomingchief Год назад +1

      @@raptorblarg2284 I don't know I seem to recall her setting up one that they weren't able to penetrate. Or maybe it was as you suggested they fox-4 the target?

    • @joshuafelder2701
      @joshuafelder2701 Год назад +8

      This would definately be fun/realistic. BUT irl nobody goes in blind. ELINT, IMINT, and good old fashioned guesswork means you pretty much know where they'll be set up. And by guesswork I mean... known CAP/LIM set of a set of gear, when paired with terrain analysis, gives you a pretty good guess at where they'll be. You won't get a targetable grid, but if you told a tank platoon/attack helo section/flight to look at this grid square and kill the SAMs there? Doable.

    • @raptorblarg2284
      @raptorblarg2284 Год назад

      @@Wyomingchief I don't remember if she did. I would want to watch that again. But yes I am suggesting that them fox 4ing the target would probably be the most efficient way to eliminate the target

  • @oliverodell3105
    @oliverodell3105 Год назад +79

    Yep, definitely unhealthy to be near active radars. You will notice at airports the radars are positioned as far away from people as possible.

    • @technicalfool
      @technicalfool Год назад +20

      It's unhealthy for the same reason you shouldn't stick your head in a microwave oven and override the safety interlocks. It'll cook you, but it won't cause radiation sickness in the same way as being near a neutron source or similar. Referring to cooking a meal in a microwave oven as "nuking" it is a popular, but incorrect concept.
      Which doesn't mean it isn't funny and therefore gets used a lot.

    • @ooelectronoo
      @ooelectronoo Год назад

      Yup radar is deadly if fired at humans. Similarly a radio antenna transmitting is also very dangerous to people.

    • @jamesmaddison4546
      @jamesmaddison4546 Год назад +7

      Yup. My dad flew f4s in vietnam and later in his career the f15 when his unit phased out the f4. I remember him telling me that in the f4 whenever they would turn on all the jammers etc and have them bursting out all those signals , that he could literally feel it and sometimes the hair on his neck would stand up.
      First time he told me that I was like woaah thats freaking crazy 😆

    • @Gearshoot
      @Gearshoot Год назад

      @@ooelectronoo At high power yeah. Talking to your buddy on the phone wont do that, but standing near the antenna for say, an FM radio station, might do the trick.
      And radars are even more powerful.

    • @MWSin1
      @MWSin1 Год назад

      There are major restrictions on where they can point their radar when an Aegis-equipped vessel is operating near shore. Don't want to microwave the sunbathers.

  • @HockeyFan1972
    @HockeyFan1972 Год назад +27

    You are close on how the PATRIOT Battery emplaces. the EPP, ECS, and RADAR are closer together. The ECS Is usually right behind the radar. The EPP is parked to the side of the ECS, The cables from the EPP to power the ECS and the Radar are not that long, thus the small footprint. As for the launchers, they will always be "in front" of the radar down range a bit. The launchers set up in a lazy W formation. They are closer to the ECS if they are running their Fiber Optic cables to communicate, or can extend a bit more down range if using SINCGARS ASIP encrypted.

    • @HockeyFan1972
      @HockeyFan1972 Год назад +1

      Dont forget the AMG....which is vital for the Battery to talk to the ICC (BN HQ)

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Год назад +5

      Thanks. Roger, we've cheated a bit and used an automatic datalink that doesn't require AMG. This is an inaccuracy obviosuly.

  • @matrick5155
    @matrick5155 Год назад +25

    Cap, your plane at the end didn't pitch down because you had autopilot still on. Check the autopilot indicator with green LED's on. In order to get the control back, you have to turn the autopilot off completely, otherwise the autopilot will "fight" you. (by autopilot I mean altitude hold, bearing hold, etc.). I don't know why, but it works like this on Russian aircrafts.
    In F-15C and A-10A you can always override the autopilot by input from the stick. I own only FC3 module and this is what I noticed while playing... and yes, I died because of Russian autopilot too.
    Just remember, always turn AP off before using the stick.

  • @RageDavis
    @RageDavis Год назад +36

    Radar uses frequencies of 2.9 to 3.1GHz and 9.2 to 9.5 GHz (10^9 Hz).
    X rays, (the "mildest" kind of ionizing radiation) have a frequency range of 0.5 to 60 x EHz (10^18Hz aka "Exa-Hertz"),
    so you were right Cap: the frequency of any radar is way lower than any type of ionizing radiation, by several orders of maginitude.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Год назад +7

      thx

    • @cockatoo010
      @cockatoo010 Год назад +1

      Isn't EUV also ionizing? I mean, it has high enough energy to cause damage to living things

    • @jamesmaddison4546
      @jamesmaddison4546 Год назад +2

      oh god yeah definitely dude. the higher you go on the em spectrum the shorter the wavelength, in turn the more dangerous it becomes.
      It's because the frequency (therefore its energy) is higher. This enables more cycles to be completed per second

    • @juliusfucik4011
      @juliusfucik4011 Год назад +2

      9 is not several. 9 is one order of magnitude of magnitudes 😂

    • @HardCoil
      @HardCoil Год назад +7

      It's not ionizing, but neither is a microwave oven. Can still be dangerous. Not enough energy pr. photon to break chemical bonds, but plenty to heat up things.

  • @cylone2005
    @cylone2005 Год назад +6

    Pac 3 is a hit to kill system. Would be awesome to see the mini rocket motors that sit In the front of the missile that refine the intercept course correction be implemented in the mod.

  • @onetime8424
    @onetime8424 Год назад +16

    Thank you Cap for the hard work! Love these videos!!

  • @letsgetsteve
    @letsgetsteve Год назад +14

    Why not put random MANPADS around the AO to make it more realistic? I think it would be interesting to see how it changes the actions as well as add a bit to the hilarity.

    • @mikes-qk1sh
      @mikes-qk1sh Год назад

      I agree add MANPADS

    • @phaioncirrus3818
      @phaioncirrus3818 Год назад +1

      because it's unrealistic, Ukraine doesn't have any manpads left, they sold them all on the darknet or traded them for food

    • @letsgetsteve
      @letsgetsteve Год назад

      @@phaioncirrus3818 That's a terrible comment. Try Botting harder...

    • @phaioncirrus3818
      @phaioncirrus3818 Год назад +1

      @@letsgetsteve it's true though. there's literal video proof showing them selling off all their best equipment for food. You want to see, clown? I can post it for you

    • @letsgetsteve
      @letsgetsteve Год назад

      @@phaioncirrus3818 I don't need to see your propaganda videos Mr troll. Move along.

  • @Liguehunters
    @Liguehunters Год назад +4

    Too bad the Gepards didint really work. Would be awesome to atleast have the 3x8 Iris-T of the IRIS-T SLM in Ukraine

  • @jamison884
    @jamison884 Год назад +2

    Although I love the video and premise, I just wanted to comment on something relevant.
    To the best of my knowledge, Russia does not incorporate SEAD into its air strategy. If I'm mistaken and this is an aspect of their air doctrine, then there are a few conclusions we can draw. 1. They don't value it anywhere near as important as US and NATO forces do. 2. They don't practice and train nearly as much, with US F-16s in particular being the designated all-stars of the USAF (at least as far as traditional SEAD/DEAD missions go and 4th-gen assets dedicated to this mission set). 3. Russia has been absolutely horrible in performing this mission within Ukraine. Not only do they lack air superiority after nearly a full year of missions from a massively stronger force in terms of numbers and capability versus Ukraine, but they also haven't even really gotten close to just dominating the air let alone full-blown superiority.
    I believe we can all confidently agree with the US air assets in a hypothetical war against an enemy equivalent to Ukraine would have followed the same trend as their wars against Iraq by dedicating the opening stages of the conflict to SEAD/DEAD and Tomahawk strikes to knock out enemy radar, comms, SAM sites, AAA sites, and mobile AA units. They would then utilize combined arms tactics and overwhelming air assets to gain air superiority and counter enemy MANPADS. There were MANPADS in Iraq/Afghanistan/Syria (granted much much less than in Ukraine), and the US successfully countered their efficacy as a whole.

  • @jordanvangundy975
    @jordanvangundy975 Год назад +2

    15 seconds in and I’m gonna say it now: if you use humans or set the skill to max for the Russian SEAD pilots, that’s completely unrealistic considering Russia doesn’t have dedicated SEAD units and their pilots train on it every once in a while.

  • @M3PH11
    @M3PH11 Год назад +2

    everytime Matrix speaks i listen..... hard. If i can't listen hard i pause the video till i can. Also, i love how Cap thought he was so awesome with his 20-30 second range for time on target and then Matrix effectively says "LOL! newb"
    And yes Radar will not give you cancer but it might just cook you from the inside out if you are in front of a powerful one long enough. I used to work with high power satellite dishes and i have seen one make fromage frais out of a strawberry yogaurt from 10 metres away in less than 15 minutes (exact time unknown we *were* working but it was like taking a plate of food out of 1000W microwave that had been running for like 5 minutes. almost burn your hand level hot.)

  • @emmata98
    @emmata98 Год назад +7

    Since when do the Russians do SEAD?

    • @subjectc7505
      @subjectc7505 Год назад +2

      This is more a what if, since SEAD isn't in Russian Doctrine

    • @onyx6847
      @onyx6847 Год назад +1

      vdv music plays

    • @Archer89201
      @Archer89201 Год назад

      They have been doing it regularly and the dozens of destroyed AD systems are the proof. It's just that they lack the pgm reserves and training like NATO

    • @ser43_OLDC
      @ser43_OLDC Год назад +1

      Literally since the start of the war. There are lost of videos of su35 su 30 and su34 with kh31 and launching them

    • @Liguehunters
      @Liguehunters Год назад

      Russian SEAD is depleting ukrainian missiles with their planes

  • @zevynozevyn4102
    @zevynozevyn4102 Год назад +4

    The Russian swept-wing aircraft reminds me of an f-111 aardvark, might the f-111 aardvark be in DCS. If so is there any missions that could be done with it.

    • @13deadghosts
      @13deadghosts Год назад

      VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK VARK :P

  • @SpectralSAWGunner
    @SpectralSAWGunner Год назад +4

    According to my father who was in the military during Vietnam, the radar is the same thing as a microwave oven if people are standing within a specific distance from the emitter.

    • @davido9208
      @davido9208 Год назад +4

      Radar tech directly lead to the invention of the microwave oven in the 50's I believe.

  • @woodlanditguy2951
    @woodlanditguy2951 Год назад +2

    SU-34 is such a fantastic aircraft. If the states had them, I would for sure love to fly that plane. super comfortable and super deadly, what's not to like?

  • @michaelritzen8138
    @michaelritzen8138 Год назад +2

    I listened to Animarchy's interview of Habitual Linecrosser, a Patriot Instructor, and I think that these Patriots are definitely set up with underestimations. I know that a lot is classified (from what I gathered, Patriot should be able to counteract jamming), but the range is at least between 20 and 100 miles (20 miles due to the earths curvature, at least 100, as Habitual Linecrosser had to look up whether the true range was unclassified or not).
    He had to hold back so many times about what he wanted to say, because it wasn't on Wikipedia (thus still classified), that I believe that Patriot is so advanced that this attack probably wouldn't have gone so easily.

    • @TraditionalAnglican
      @TraditionalAnglican Год назад

      Not to mention the fact the Patriot’s computers and Radars are designed to deal with 90% angles, so they wouldn’t be notched by these missiles in real life, which means the Probability of Kill would be more like 80-90% instead of 50-55%!

  • @austinpowers8550
    @austinpowers8550 Год назад +2

    This has nothing to do with the game. How you said you have an old man bladder and have to pee all the time. That can be a really bad sign. I had the same thing happening so I went to the doctor. It turned out my prostate was messed up and I ended up with prostate cancer but they caught it immediately. So if I were you I would go get it checked out just in case. If you have something wrong with your prostate and they don't catch it immediately you'll be in for some of the most miserable pain you've ever had in your life!

    • @Utubesuperstar
      @Utubesuperstar Год назад

      ^^^this @grimreapers stay safe and healthy we need you around for a long time

  • @Tenright77
    @Tenright77 Год назад +4

    That Primary target is obviously the most populated Fast Food Court and Laundry Facility in U.K....
    Dominos, KFC, Starbucks, and Micky D...all Must Go....

    • @cockatoo010
      @cockatoo010 Год назад

      And Nando's!
      Must Save the Nando's!
      Literally the only place whose chicken I like. Shame that the closest Nando's to me is a 12 hour flight away

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Год назад +1

      ^^ this

  • @baldis12
    @baldis12 Год назад +2

    You forgot they allso have the nasams now..

  • @quiionexto
    @quiionexto Год назад +5

    I know this is not talking about the type 055 but I’m really interested in the capability of it.

    • @marshalljulie3676
      @marshalljulie3676 Год назад +1

      There's already a video about it made before this one

  • @MultiSciGeek
    @MultiSciGeek Год назад +1

    15:30 Yes, pretty much all radar technology is non-ionizing, the same as a microwave. In fact I see no point in using ionizing radiation - for starters, how'd you make it work cheaply? I mean you can't split atoms with just electricity. Secondly the hazard for everyone involved would be way too high if ionizing radiation was used. I mean these planes would basically be nukes once they crash. The only stuff in the military that uses anything ionizing are nuclear weapons and nuclear powered subs. Remember: nuclear = ionizing. Microwaves (FM, AM), visible light, infrared light, UV light = non-ionizing, aka doesn't need uranium, plutonium, caesium and the likes. Ionizing = rips atoms apart. Non - ionizing = basically harmless to anything smaller than a molecule, with perhaps the main danger being heating, which is how a microwave works.

  • @MultiSciGeek
    @MultiSciGeek Год назад +1

    27:23 You have a sever problem reading numbers beyond 1,000. Dude that's 50 million! NOT 50 thousand! Geez get that checked out plz. It's driving me nuts!

  • @billwhoever2830
    @billwhoever2830 Год назад +1

    "Would you see a Russian strike as big as this in real life? No. This is early cold war strike, you wouldnt have this nowdays its just NOT COST EFFECTIVE."
    Meanwhile the defensive weapons wasted cost 5 times as much and the very important target is destroyed as well. I guess its very cost effective if Russia has the equipment to pull it through.
    It might not work out so easily in real life or Russia might not want to risk the pilots for a target that might not realy worth it. Even if cruise missiles cost more, they are 100% safe to use.
    A kalibr is only 900k per missile and they are latest tech land attack cruise missiles, realy cant see a reason why not to use cruise missiles even if some patriots are sent (I think 2 batteries are about to be sent).

  • @fredflinston41
    @fredflinston41 Год назад +1

    EF-111 Cockpits have gold shielding and pilots have special suits

  • @yerfdog79
    @yerfdog79 Год назад +2

    Get better, Sokington

  • @jerishigan6567
    @jerishigan6567 Год назад +21

    A major difference between Russia and Grim Reapers is GR actually has pilots to fly missions.

  • @Wyomingchief
    @Wyomingchief Год назад +4

    Man these kind of scenarios are the best motivation. I've been at patreon supporter for a while now, and hoping that I can get good enough to take part in some of your donator projects

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Год назад +1

      Yup come join in please! Donator's mission tomorrow 1900UTC.

  • @darwinjina
    @darwinjina Год назад +1

    Its just a matter of time before you get rona. coordinate with your doctor, as they would know your medical history. (may prescribe stuff if needed)

  • @djzoodude
    @djzoodude Год назад +1

    It's weird to me that the S400 never seems to run out of missiles in these tests, but the Patriot does. Does an S400 site really have that many more missiles compared to Patriot?

  • @gendo1
    @gendo1 Год назад +3

    The Official Simba Fan Club would like to point out ukrainian's are already in ohio learning the PAC system! This will effecitvely create a no-fly zone over ukraine and will push the russians further into a corner. Lobbing their cruise missles will no longer be effective and more expensive weapon systems will surely be brought out. This is only the beginning.

    • @simba1113
      @simba1113 Год назад +1

      can't argue with that. the fan club has spoken.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Год назад +2

      How can I become a member of official Simba fanclub?

    • @gendo1
      @gendo1 Год назад +1

      @@grimreapers Cap lets be honest any member of GR is already a member of The Official Simba Fanclub! Just ask damp or sock next stream! (No one will pay them off)

    • @simba1113
      @simba1113 Год назад +1

      @@gendo1 hahahah.

    • @Benfbdnhdsjjfhehd
      @Benfbdnhdsjjfhehd Год назад +1

      Only in ohio💀💀

  • @SheepDogNumber6
    @SheepDogNumber6 Год назад +3

    Always such a nice polite intro. I look forward to it. Thank you.

  • @subjectc7505
    @subjectc7505 Год назад +2

    Russian aircraft blue burners have a chemical in them , that makes them turn blue. I forgot what it was called

  • @cockatoo010
    @cockatoo010 Год назад +8

    There are 2 main types of ionizing radiation. There's Electromagnetic ionizing radiation, which is just very high energy light (EUV, X-rays, Gamma rays) and particle ionizing radiation. You'll find alpha (pretty much helium nuclei) , beta (electrons) and neutron radiation on this camp

    • @gamarus0kragh
      @gamarus0kragh Год назад

      And to add to that, ionizing radiation is anything that can knock electrons out of their orbitals.
      This will break chemical bonds and/or create radical 'species'. Broken bonds in DNA or proteins leads to dysfunction, radicals not directly in the DNA can propagate into the DNA (or proteins) and again break bonds. DNA has repair functions and antioxidants neutralize radicals but they will not fix everything.

  • @kurisuuu48
    @kurisuuu48 Год назад +3

    Just one addition: Germany has agreed to send one Patriot-battery as well (not sure which version though)

    • @phaioncirrus3818
      @phaioncirrus3818 Год назад

      there's now 1. patriot 2. SAMP/T 3. IRIS-T 4. NASAMS 5. Hawk 6. Crotale NG 7. Aspide 8. Stormer 9. Avenger and more all already been sent or in discussions to be sent soon to ukraine

  • @football_Habbibibi
    @football_Habbibibi Год назад +2

    They should create a decoy missle, like its cheap and its meant to get shot down, to drain the AA systems

  • @baldis12
    @baldis12 Год назад +2

    So the gepards dident even fire/work? 😑😑

  • @mostlyevilmisha
    @mostlyevilmisha Год назад +2

    I've seen HAWK and Pac's fired, and they are both awesome. The HAWKS, especially, really rattle the rib cage. Pac's are a multi-stage pressure wave; the initial *thump* when the bird leaves the box, then the second motor you feel instead of hear-

  • @dexlab7539
    @dexlab7539 Год назад +1

    Always good to prove that Nothing is Invincible!

  • @Archer89201
    @Archer89201 Год назад +6

    One layer of defense you forgot would be Manpads and AAA like ZSU-23-2 and KPVs

    • @Mystical922
      @Mystical922 Год назад

      @@nc1609 in this scenario they were in range

    • @Mystical922
      @Mystical922 Год назад

      @@nc1609 that’s what the Patriot is for force them low into man pads and IRIS-T so either way you lose. US air defense covers all envelopes

  • @martinjones12
    @martinjones12 Год назад +1

    I've seen with my own eyes a patriot hit a Raf tornado at night in Gulf War 2 , the only RAF loss.... brutal and terrifying as we were airborne and flying RTB, as was the tornado..... the patriot battery was in full "auto" mode,,,ie: no human intervention at the time ( the patriot crew were "tired" after their deployment!) so, as one tornado of a pair, flying RTB was not squaking a mode 4 IFF, the patriot battery engaged it,,,,,,,,,(full auto mode) even though the tornado was in formation with a buddy that WAS squaking a good mode 4 IFF................ hhhhmmmm, if only a human was awake at the patriot site....... that was a VERY tense transit back to base, constantly testing and re-testing our own mode4 .......

    • @Utubesuperstar
      @Utubesuperstar Год назад

      Flying formation isn’t good enough everyone has to follow proper procedures or they die, or worse kill a friendly or civilian. Both the tornado and patriot bear the blame

  • @halti100
    @halti100 Год назад +1

    \i dont even play DCS but still watch everyday

  • @terryboyer1342
    @terryboyer1342 Год назад +1

    Sheesh. Caps still sore that the colonists declared independence.

  • @comet1062
    @comet1062 Год назад +1

    Cap it shouldn’t even heat you up if it is actually radar. (It might be microwave but even then it probably won’t) microwaves heat things up by exciting the bonds in water and only do so at quite a narrow range of wavelengths. Radio can’t do it.

    • @Utubesuperstar
      @Utubesuperstar Год назад

      Bro radars will absolutely cook you they are very dangerous

  • @ryanerickson8138
    @ryanerickson8138 Год назад +3

    Interested to see what’s next in the “We wanted to win” series 😆

  • @bobbym8458
    @bobbym8458 Год назад +1

    radar uses radio waves and radio waves are not ionizing radiation

  • @mrbojangles6156
    @mrbojangles6156 Год назад +3

    I was in the army as an air traffic controller in the 90’s. Definitely tons of caution signs around the radar for radiation.

  • @emergcon
    @emergcon Год назад +1

    PAK 3 will be delivered by Germany too.

  • @jansenart0
    @jansenart0 Год назад +2

    Of course, the point of a Patriot site is to buy time to scramble.

  • @shtorm2616
    @shtorm2616 Год назад +1

    I'm pretty sure Russia doesn't have that many PGMs to be able to use this much on one attack

  • @kevindonald2085
    @kevindonald2085 Год назад +1

    SEAD is pronounced (SEED).

  • @aztec0112
    @aztec0112 Год назад +2

    I've never had any luck getting game included Patriots to work as advertised. I did quite a bit of testing and the results were awful with a PK

    • @GageEakins
      @GageEakins Год назад +2

      That's because the game included Patriots are the old PAC-1 and DCS actually underestimates how good the patriot actually is.

  • @Eo_Tunun
    @Eo_Tunun Год назад +1

    Radars are on microwave frequencies, very close to modern WLan frequencies. Ionizing radiation is from the ultraviolet bits of the spectrum up in frequencies, like UV to gamma rays. So you were absolutely right with what you say, it's non-ionizing radiation. As there are several kilowatts of microwave radiation coming from the dishes you better don't stand in front of them, they are open air microwave BBQs. There have been many cases of pensions paid to former radar operators here in Germany over cases where cancer cases could reliably be linked to former exposition to radar exposure at close range, if I am not mistaken this happened practically exclusively to GDR recruits and the shitty Soviet-made systems with their leaky microwave conductors that turned the insides of their radar operators cabins into microwave ovens. (Seeing the rate of issues with Russian made spaceflight systems encountered on the ISS; I doubt ruSSian made systems are much different in that respect. A friendly hello to all operators of S-300 and S-400 systems! ^^)
    Just another example of Germany paying for the mopping up of the mess the useless thieving Moscowian tw*ts left behind.

  • @j4s0n39
    @j4s0n39 Год назад +1

    RADAR, like any other EM radiation, including light, is photons. Only high frequency radiation (like X-rays, gamma rays, and cosmic rays) is an ionizing risk. Radiation with a lower frequency than visible light (like TV and radio) is not ionizing, but does contain a great deal of energy and can cook nearby objects, like a microwave oven.

  • @Squirl513
    @Squirl513 Год назад +3

    For a lower cost AA option, does dcs have avengers in game?

    • @cockatoo010
      @cockatoo010 Год назад +1

      I think so. Pretty sure that there was an avenger in the GR NATO SAM video.
      It may have been a linebacker, I don't quite remember

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  Год назад +1

      Yup we got Avenger.

  • @3idraven714
    @3idraven714 Год назад +2

    Great vid! There is a AN/FPS-132 (UEWR) radar in Taiwan, I worked on it (constr) it's on Google maps (it's a copy of the site in Thule, Greenland). I'd like to see a Chinese Campaign simulation of some sort, with that added in. Talking to the radar techs, they can see and ID tanks (ground, line of sight) at 300 miles, no info on air targets (OPSEC), but it tracks satellites, any ballistic missiles. Talking to the Taiwanese guys on the jobsite (including mil folks) that would be the first target hit, at the opening of hostilities. There were alarm sirens and strobes, on the roof of the support buildings, you had 1 minute to get off the roof, or you would be toasted to a crisp, in a few sec, from the waste up, if you were there when they switched it on.

    • @3idraven714
      @3idraven714 Год назад

      They just completed another in Qatar also (add to Persian Gulf Campaigns???).

    • @3idraven714
      @3idraven714 Год назад

      One in Poland also.

  • @CMDRSweeper
    @CMDRSweeper Год назад +1

    Closest case I have heard of relating to "radar" damage was the Norwegian KNM "Kvikk" case back in the 90s.
    Basically children of someone that had served on the boat showed genetic damage and birth defects in their children and they had both served on the same ship.
    Of course, while that boat was scrapped before they could do reconstruction of it, the current biggest culprit that is suspected was the paint.
    Since during its service, it was a ship that had a lot of camo paint experimentation going on, which of course contained a nice toxic cocktail including lots of mercury to mention one of them.
    Naturally painted by the crew, so that was a logical exposure.

  • @ryanpayne7707
    @ryanpayne7707 Год назад +1

    14:56: There's also a galley on the other side.
    15:38: Non-ionizing. They use microwaves, which are on the complete opposite end of the electromagnetic spectrum from ionizing radiation. Visible light is more energetic, per photon, than microwaves. That being said, radars put out a ton of photons that, while harmless individually, are hazardous in large doses. They won't damage your DNA, but every watt of RF energy that gets absorbed by your body has to go somewhere- and that's into heat. So you won't get any genetic mutations, but you will be cooked alive.
    17:17: Photons. Neutrons are massive and, by definition, can not move at the speed of light. Thanks to mass energy equivalence, a massive object (neutron) would need infinite energy to move at the speed of light. Neutrons are not force carrier particles for electromagnetic radiation. Instead, they are unstable subatomic particles (half life of ~15m when free of nucleus) that can transmute a stable isotope into a radioactive one.

  • @rmp5s
    @rmp5s Год назад +1

    We don't call him "President Biden"... we call him either Resident biden or simply Brandon.

  • @Snowwie88
    @Snowwie88 Год назад

    This sounds maybe weird, but since this is actual reality is it even wise to 'maybe' give the Russians ideas based on these simulations? We know their tactics are flawed in many ways and the last thing we should do is make them any wiser, or give any specs about whatever is delivered to Ukraine. Just out of curiosity.

  • @13deadghosts
    @13deadghosts Год назад +1

    The Gepard turret actually weighs 12 metric tons :P And with the 1A2 they switched the ammo from HEI to FAPDS (for higher muzzle velocity), extending the range to 5,5km. But seems like your gepards where bugged, given that they did't engage anything. Also, the iris-t slm TEL holds 8 missiles compared to the 4 of the iris-t sls TEL.

  • @technicalfool
    @technicalfool Год назад +1

    Hard UV is where radiation starts to ionise stuff, so yes, radar systems are well below ionising wavelengths. They're varying degrees of microwave.
    Now if you had a UVC LIDAR, that might be different, but that would also be moderately insane. If someone made an X ray or Gamma ray radar, that would be ionising, but also probably bonkers.
    (Fun fact: The modern microwave oven has its roots in radar research, with the possibly apocryphal tale of an engineer noticing the chocolate bar in his pocket melting near a particularly beefy radar antenna.)

  • @007999999999999999
    @007999999999999999 Год назад +1

    @Grim Reapers I think you had you flaps out, that's why you couldn't pull down anymore.

  • @ironman6527
    @ironman6527 Год назад +1

    Do one more but add random MANPADS along the way and a few Ukraine Su-27 and MiG-29 aircraft for more realism.

  • @jantschierschky3461
    @jantschierschky3461 Год назад +1

    Well we all seen the effective use of Russian missiles in the Ukrainian war, the absolute air dominance of Russians in Ukraine is amazing. ( sarcasm)

  • @neilcharlescochrane
    @neilcharlescochrane Год назад +1

    I wonder if the Ukrainians watch some of these videos and it actually affects their battle planning?? Just a thought 🤔😄

  • @lohrtom
    @lohrtom Год назад +1

    From inside CIC on a warship, a missile launch sounds like the world’s largest toilet flushing.

  • @dakotapurvis5321
    @dakotapurvis5321 Год назад +1

    How do I join these lol

  • @lenn55
    @lenn55 Год назад +1

    Pac3 SAMs are hit to kill. No warhead.

    • @Utubesuperstar
      @Utubesuperstar Год назад

      Correction they do have a small warhead but they are as you say a kinetic kill not blast frag

  • @thomashenshallhydraxis
    @thomashenshallhydraxis Год назад +1

    War is ungodly loud. I could never explain a battle in sound wise.
    It’s so loud it makes the body freeze and disoriented

  • @BruhMomentPatrick
    @BruhMomentPatrick Год назад +1

    There has been a case of air defense soldiers getting sick (nausea, vomiting, diarrhea) every time they went next to the radar when it was active. 3 of them got cancer.

  • @MWSin1
    @MWSin1 Год назад +1

    You know, if they're going to demolish a building anyway, they might as well invite the air force to get some practice while putting on a hell of a show for the people on the ground.

  • @Kevin-hb7yq
    @Kevin-hb7yq Год назад +1

    Early micro-wave ovens were called 'Radar Ranges' for a reason.
    Cool strike package!
    Where was Blue Air?

  • @timbaskett6299
    @timbaskett6299 Год назад

    Those Su-24 Fencers are almost as pretty as an........F-111!!! 😄 Don't want to give anyone any ideas, but could you imagine if there was an armored vehicle with the Chinese 30mm CWIS!!! I could "see" an Su-34 Fullback as a basis for a Russian version of an EA-18G Growler.

  • @michaelrowland828
    @michaelrowland828 Год назад +1

    Cap good video, however the flights would have to watch out for shoulder fire Sam, vehicle heavy guns, and old Joe with his rifle.

  • @planespottingfargo1174
    @planespottingfargo1174 Год назад +1

    what aircraft did Matrix flyin the RAF? GR4 possibly?

  • @xriskava2151
    @xriskava2151 Год назад

    Ionizing radiation begins at well inside the Ultra Violent. Visible light ends at about 450nm or about 670THz. Ionizing radiation begins after the 1PHz mark (1 Peta Hertz, 1.000.000GHz).
    All radars must use radio frequencys of at most a few dozen GHz. I don't have any insight on the actual frequencys used, but I'm doing pretty good on related subjects in university, and I can tell you, because physics, increasing the frequency, drastically decreases the range of the radar. Plus, I don't care what secret sauses thay use, nobody in the world uses the high end of the EHF band because it's too impractical for anything further than a couple hundred meters.
    Though, to be honest, "not ionizing" , does not mean "safe to be around". I'm sure these puppies are pumping some serious KW of power. If you microwave your food, you can imagine what will happen to you if you get near a radar.
    Great videos as always! Cheers from Greece!

  • @KG-gv1ds
    @KG-gv1ds Год назад

    Hello valued hosts, I would like to see a SEAD then DEAD mission of all IAD SAM Russian forces consisting of first wave (stealth) then feeding enemy air defense positions into awacs, then decoy jdam's from bone's and finally missile trucks (F15E) with approximate GPS lat/long triangulated by previous EMR findings. The idea being that the first force (stealth recon and SEAD) provides enough telemetry to guide ordinance that is not relying on radar signals (AGM-88) but instead GPS guided munitions. The aircraft do not have to get into enemy radar range to launch GPS guided ordinance.

  • @FalcoGer
    @FalcoGer Год назад

    Can't you just enter a ToT for the waypoint? I know in BMS you can do that. But in BMS you also do live FRAGs in an active, dynamic campaign...
    Yes, radars are non ionizing. Visible light is in the terrahertz range with ionizing radiation starting with UV-B. Radar frequency are well below that. If you get a phased array laser you are in star trek territory (that's what a phaser is, I think.)
    Anyhow, the best you're gonna get is microwaving someone's skin. Also it's not neutrons, it's photons. Light. Just in a frequency well below IR.

  • @coyohte
    @coyohte Год назад

    IRIS-T missiles are infrared homing. How did they track the incoming KH-58 missiles since the KH-58s had already burned off all of the fuel, hence just balistic at final approach.

  • @28boudreaux
    @28boudreaux Год назад

    Several things about this one, but I'll limit to the most important... Sock, sorry you've gotten the "Beer" virus. It's just like anything else, and is different for everyone. I've had it 3 times, biproduct of my job. That said, the first time was early on in the "threat" and was the worst of the three. I personally feel like I'd rather have it than the "old time" flu. Next, does Matrix have his own channel? I'd love to see much more content from him!!!!! Love his insight on things and the experience he brings to the content. Lastly, I love the work guys and PLEASE keep it up. I personally enjoy the missions and campaign type stuff that y'all do the most, especially the SEAD stuff. That said, I really enjoy all of the content for the most part. Thank you all for doing what you do. I've had some thoughts on things that I'd like to pass along about certain things, but haven't heard back from friends that are still in the Navy as to what exactly that I can say from things that I learned while obtaining my ESWS qualification. Which most of it should be public knowledge, but.... That said, I will find a way to send stuff in a non public way once I get told what I can and can't say.

  • @PotatoeJoe69
    @PotatoeJoe69 Год назад

    It would appear the Patriot system is extremely underperforming in DCS. The success rates of the Patriot in Kuwait, Iraq, and other conflicts shows it's a fantastic SAM

  • @xx-ui2gm
    @xx-ui2gm Год назад

    EDIT: And this is what i get for not watching the entire video before commenting, here is it anyway LMAO
    I know for a fact that strong radar energy is not ionizing, it's only up to several Ghz range, meaning it can't damage DNA.
    But it can be bad for you or feel uncomfortable as it's heating up whatever it passes through, so they turn it off on the ground (and i presume a2a refueling too) to not microwave the ground/tanker crew.
    Even devices like two-way radios, cell phones and cell towers, wifi access points will do this. There are regulatory limits to body absorption as measured from a cellphone and a lot of wifi access points and wireless routers come with compliance booklets warning to turn the device off before coming closer than around 25-30cm to it.
    Also some of you might have seen a picture of one or more cats on a starlink dish, they just like the warmth of a transmitter powerful enough to be understood by a receiver in orbit

  • @phaioncirrus3818
    @phaioncirrus3818 Год назад

    hey cap on this video the russian A-50 AWACS pilot says the front of their windows is covered with gold so that the pilots don't get radiated, basically, by the powerful AWACS radar ruclips.net/video/bDJ1l2ydEHE/видео.html

  • @nigeldepledge3790
    @nigeldepledge3790 Год назад

    FWIW, *no* radar system uses ionising radiation. The main reason being that ionising radiation interacts with the air too much to travel very far.
    Alpha particles won't travel more than a few tens of centimetres in air. Beta particles will travel no more than a few metres in air. Gamma radiation will travel further, but will typically be absorbed by the air before it's gone a hundred metres.
    I don't know how far neutrons will travel in air, but it'll be less than one hundred metres before they're absorbed.
    Very short-wavelength ultraviolet can also be ionising, but it, too, has z limited range in air.
    The very process that makes radiation ionising - that it ionises whatever substance it passes through - saps energy from the radiation, thus limiting how far it can travel.
    FWIW, the most intense X-ray source on Earth - the detonation of a nuclear weapon - has a range limited to hundreds to thousands of metres (depending on the yield, bomb design, atmospheric conditions and so on). You can see the effect in high-speed film footage of nuclear weapon tests. The "fireball" is created by the ionisation of air by the emitted X-rays.
    Also, even if you send ionising radiation at a plane and the radiation reaches it, it won't bounce back. It will either pass through or be absorbed.
    Radar tends to use radio waves in the microwave regime. An intense, powerful radar source will heat the water in your body if you're close to it; but it won't cause ionisation.

  • @Afreeusername_
    @Afreeusername_ Год назад +1

    Can you do no-commentary episodes?

    • @Utubesuperstar
      @Utubesuperstar Год назад

      The commentary is half the fun! Cap if you see this guys comment disregard it all of us like the commentary and shenanigans

  • @NightshadeX85
    @NightshadeX85 Год назад

    I know the Blue Force costs are high however compared to the Russian economy even before the war the ruble was not worth much, so America can pay $1 million off a lot better than Russia can pay off the equivalent. So costs are important but real sinews of war is how well can you pay it off. NATO can pay and replace it's equipment a lot better than Russia can.

  • @wunderstein8224
    @wunderstein8224 Год назад

    Ionizing radiation has enough energy to bump electrons out and create ions out of the excited atoms of the target being irradiated. It's photons in the EM radiation that are the energy transfer vehicles. The energy of the waves is directly proportional to the frequency and inversely to the wavelength. Higher frequency, more energy and longer wavelength less energy. So while certain EM radiation emissions won't be able to ionize and therefore cause direct cellular damage and DNA damage, it may have enough intensity to heat the water or other polar molecules and that heat can cause damage, but I think that would a much preferable type of damage to receive than direct cellular damage that is for sure capable of easily damaging DNA.

  • @jameslecka8085
    @jameslecka8085 Год назад

    Radar kills and damages cells. So mild exposure gives skin oddities including eye cataracts. possible losses of sensory nerves, in eye or ear or nose (taste gets replaced frequently). at higher levels cooks sensitive tissues first, Only a guess, hair falling out, digestive upset. Massive may lead to FLK effect, ionized or not.

  • @djzoodude
    @djzoodude Год назад

    Radar is indeed non-ionizing radiation. It's basically just radio waves. Non-ionizing means that the photons done have enough energy to create ions, which are atoms that have gained or lost an electron. They also don't have energy to break the bonds in your DNA, which means they can't cause mutations which might lead to cancer.

  • @cannon3267
    @cannon3267 Год назад

    great video. too bad there is no decoy truck that imitates a patriot system, similar to the MALD simulating an attack aircraft.
    if there were such a thing, any countries SEAD would be complicated by a factor of a bunch. imagine vectoring in on what you think is an undefended patriot system worth millions, only to discover it is a decoy truck worth a couple hundred thousand.

  • @deanmitchell4233
    @deanmitchell4233 Год назад +1

    I have to say that I love the fullback, so beautiful...

  • @ktwei
    @ktwei Год назад +2

    Russians: Write that down!!

  • @andyf4292
    @andyf4292 Год назад

    if the photon's wavelength isn't short enough to concentrate it's energy on a single atom, it can't dump enough power to kick an electron out < ionizing the atom>.. all it can do is heat the target up. If the photon is REALLY high energy, a gamma ray it can break a nucleus and cause radioactivity

  • @mrjava66
    @mrjava66 Год назад

    Radar IS non ionizing radiation. 15:40 visible light and longer wavelengths are non ionizing. Ultraviolet and shorter wave wavelengths ARE ionizing. Basically, as per Einstein’s first noble prize, each photon has to have more energy than the binding energy of an outer electron.