That's why cam ain't in the NFL any more and why he don't own a team I take Jalen all day jalen has a stacked team but so does Prescott and yet Jalen managed in a couple seasons to make it to the Superbowl when Dak can't make it past the wild card round in 8 seasons cam smoking somthing
how is Dak better when Jalen has accomplished more? More talented does not equal better. If that's the case Rodgers is better then Brady. Winning is defintley a stat that ways more on the QB then any other postion. The naiveness is crazy smh, Is Dak better then Lamar ....... Exactly
@chrisanderson2056 every great Quaterbacks wins that common knowledge. Name the top 10 teams in the league 8 of them have a top 10 QB. Let's not play naive.
@chrisanderson2056 and if we are talking individuals achievements Dak in 8 Years: 3 Pro Bowls 1 All Pro Jalen in 3 Years: 2 Pro Bowls 1 All Pro So yeah....
Yea i’m listening to the debate like are y’all listening to what he’s actually saying or are y’all just replying to reply? Lol because it felt like they were going in circles to a degree.
This segment was is about Cam Newton saying he chooses Dak over HERBERT, Trevor Lawrence. Kyler Murray, Kirk Cousins and Jalen but y’all see they only wanna single out Jalen Hurts 😂😂😂😂😂. I see what’s going on
@@Phillystresssportsfan It's such a simple argument too. Dak: 5/8 seasons of 70+ QBR, high of 77.6 Herbert: 1/4 seasons of 70+ QBR, high of 70.9 Lawrence: 0/3 seasons of 70+ QBR, high of 56.1 Murray: 0/5 seasons of 70+ QBR, high of 63.2 Cousins: 1/12 seasons of 70+ QBR, high of 77.7 (48 passing attempts rookie season) Hurts: 0/4 seasons of 70+ QBR, high of 68.3
They gonna compare Dak and Hurts stats and say they are similar over the last 4-5 years but also fail to remember Dak lost an entire year and still has the same stats. Give Dak that year back I’m sure he would have made it to the NFC title game if not the Super Bowl and with that said the stats between him and Jaylen would be far removed.
Yes because sometimes a player could have similar stats to another guy but their situations are completely different. Both Hurts and Dak have top 5 teams in terms of talent surrounding them. So the circumstances being the same lends more credibility to the stats.
It's s team sport - If he was the better QB why does it not show in his success - Dak has been on better teams so far and still has achieved less - Dak is the 1st #2 seed QB in playoffs to lose to a #7 seed - he is good for ratings not wins
Both guys have had elite OLines, running games, and receiving (Dez, Amari, and CeeDee vs AJ and Devonta)....Dak has been in the league twice as long and accomplished half as much.
@@maskedman5657 he loves dak and aaron rodgers. He will never say nothing bad about dak. Go to his other videos about him. He is the only one who take up for the cowboys.
What did she say that was wrong? She brought up a great point about them performing similarly during the regular season but hurts is better in the playoffs. Please tell me what she said wrong lmao.
Because they arent talking about that. Wins aren't a QB stat. If post season and Superbowls are a measurement for how good a QB is than Tom Brady is the most talented QB to ever play. Do you think that?
@@joshfisher1299What quarterback in the NFL doesn't throw picks in the playoffs??? The Dallas defense did nothing to stop the opposition. We have to stop with the bullsh.t. If Dak walks, it's over. I don't know WTF these crying .ss fans are complaining for. If the front office were to be more aggressive and stop being so f..king cheap and bring in some real players. Instead they love to pick off of the scrap heap. And it has come back to bite them in the .ss again and again.
@trthepredator Mahomes, Rodgers, Burrow, Brees, and Eli Manning have all won 1 or fewer playoff games in their career when throwing multiple ints. Throwing multiple ints then requires you to rely on the defense hence making you part of why the team loses if it does.
And Dallas gave up what 40 sumin pts against Green Bay last season in the playoffs. Jalen hurts is good-ok but he’s limited to what he can do and I think their defense keeps them alive against superior teams. Dak is good a qb but he does make some bad costly decisions in the must win games and moments but he’s definitely a better thrower! I agree with James jones
You know why they think winning is a QB stat? It takes much more brainpower to actually dissect the game of football than it is to just praise the QB for everything. James Jones is 1000% correct on this
@@kevonsidek9737 as far as legacy. Yes. But in determining their skill level and actual QB play. No. That same eagles team won a super bowl with a backup QB. How far your team gets in the playoffs is based on the whole team.
The other guy on the end starts talking trash about James while looking at the person sitting next to him. Be a man and look the the person in the eye that you are talking sh** about
@@jeremyhale45 and yet he had to learn a new offense every year he's been in philly because the OC either left or got fired. Still lead the team to the playoffs
@@maskedman5657 Yet, there one and done at playoffs and they could only beat weak teams, with no QB'S. Against Great teams they show there true colors as the fruads they are...🤷♂️
She has to use semantics to make them sound close to comparable. If the question was, "who is a better system QB, that can run a read option better?". Then, maybe Hurts has him, but the question is, "who is the better QB?". That's all Dak. Better arm, better feel for the game, and more anticipatory. Their 2 MVP caliber years aren't even comparable...
@NoWayBro88 that logic falls flat because you wouldn't dare say Dak is better then Lamar, and those statements can still apply. Hurts near MVP season every much comparable when you realize he missed 3 games and sat out a slot of 4th qtrs due to blowouts.
What about the previous one? Or the one before that? Have you ever considered that Dak was a reason why they scored 41? Cowboys can pretend like Dak is not Kirk Cousins tho…
they say the same thing about Lamar. Its really dumb how every debate on this show turns into playoff wins when football is the ultimate team sport. They act like theyre talking about tennis or golf
If you never heard this term about Philips Rivers or Peyton Manning... Then it shows how young you are and when you actually starting watching Football
Joy absolutely made a fool of herself with this debate. Their numbers are nowhere near the same. Dak is the better quarterback. I'm no Cowboys fan but even I can see the delusional behavior being put on display
It’s Eagles bias. Shady is biased towards to Eagles and Joy is biased towards Shady. Dak is the better QB and there isn’t a debate. If you want to throw wins in there then Purdy is an unquestioned top 5 QB. Probably top 3.
@HumbleQuis better QBR, better comp%, better throwing inside the pocket, better throwing outside the pocket, throws for more yards, throws for more TDs, also and this is a very big one he can actually read the defensive scheme he is playing against, this is something jalen really needs to work on if he wants to have a long career at his position. The one and only single thing jalen does better is run the football.
Exactly lol that’s the whole point of being a QB TO LEAD UR TEAM TO A SB 😂 I never seen Jalen throw 6 picks in a playoff game AND DAK HAS BEEN IN THE LEAGUE LONGER
Winning is kot a qb stat its a team stat... it's not Daks fault our defense got thrashed for 300 rushing yards against the Rams with Darnell Henderson and Todd Gurley. The defense isn't as elite as people have been making it out to be.
Not even a Cowboys fan but I’m taking Dak over Hurts any day and it’s not even close. Everyone wants to talk about how Hurts went to the Super Bowl but let’s be real they got to play the Giants and the 49ers who couldn’t even attempt a forward pass to get to the super bowl. Acho said Hurts has never been the reason his team has lost in the playoffs but what about his most recent playoff game? Why does Hurts get a pass for that game just because his defense was bad? The offense put up 9 points, it’s not like they were in a shootout. Gotta keep that same energy they have for Dak losing to Green Bay. People get so caught up in the fact that Hurts has been to a super bowl so we might as well put Jimmy Garoppolo in that same category right?
@@Judge_Meridian My point was that these guys pretty much hold onto the fact that Hurts went to a Super Bowl and Dak hasn’t. I’m simply pointing out that just because you won more playoff games doesn’t make you a better QB. Jimmy Garoppolo is a perfect example for that. I don’t care if Hurts played better in one game, I think Hurts is a better QB than Garoppolo obviously but I’m not making that judgment based off of who played better in the Super Bowl.
Yeah the problem is they are asked to do a lot different. Jalen is in a more rpo heavy offense, and Dak is in a more pass heavy offense. So Dak looks more impressive in the regular season while Jalen ends up being alot more efficient. Also I think Daks coaches failed him when it mattered most. Also Hurts played like in MVP in that Superbowl.
Dak and Hurts played the same exact 9ers Defense🤦 Dak also lost to the Commanders to end the 2022 season yet you're crying about the Eagles beating NY?
I’ll take a player who can perform in bigtime games. Dak can throw better sure, but he also can cost you the game, Jalen has never been the reason they lose in playoff games, the Super Bowl is a perfect example
“Dak is the reason they lost against Green Bay last year” WTF??? Cowboys D let up 42pts…. Everyone forgetting Dak put Tom Brady out to pasture in that playoff game…
@@benbowman4590 i guess you forgot about the pick 6 and other turnovers. Dak has played on a defense thats allowed 21pts a game or leas in 7/8 years starting. His bar to win has essentially been 22 pts. Hes mid and a stat padder that rides the wave of his team.
I agree with jones , every team and coach and organization are built different team success is great but the individual player you negate team success and focus on what they can do not what everybody else does
@@Cali-Green-Birds96 and? Jalen green was gifted a god squad, was given the little giants in the second round, then given cmc at qb. Played a good game against a weaker chiefs squad with no tyreek and lost. Even after this, jalen has been given weapon after weapon, drafting bpa every draft, yet once they needed him to actually be a good qb this year, he gave them 9 points and got embarrased.
@@theyokester3541Two of those all pros were special team players, the other was Bland because he broke an NFL record and the others were his linemen. Cee Dee and Micha were the only actual all pros at positions that mattered and they both disappear in big games like Dak does
@@tigera6 he had a defense that could at least force turnovers and make stops. Eagles defense allowed 30+ points to the Commanders twice, made Mac Jones look like Tom Brady and let Drew Lock do a legacy drive to win the game
Hurts was top 3 in Ints last year, most QBs that do this have tons of passing yards but he did not. Tp put it in perspective Hurts was 20th passing from within the pocket last year & far outside the top 10 in every other QB stat. The reality is Hurts has better WRs overall, 100% a better oline, a better RB last year & top10 TE but failed
Causuals lmao, quarterbacking is not just throwing the football. Rushing, decision making, game management, scoring the football, and putting your team in position to win. It all matters. Eagles are SB champs without Mahomes legs.
dak would’ve had to score 42 points to win their last playoff game 🤣 meanwhile hurts needed 160 yards and 8 points but hurts is better at winning right ? it’s clearly a team effect.. if we’re talking strictly QB play dak is better
Dak is better but when is he going to win?🤔 Jalen proved he’s more then capable of winning the big one! 10-1 last year off of talent alone👌🏾 coaching and poor secondary played a part in our downfall but bottom line is in the 4th quarter u taking dak over Jalen? Is laughable
@@aamirkhari8972 the eagles ran the ball down the giants throat while daniel jones disappeared. then played an injured 49ers team. after he fumbled away that super bowl in the first half but yea he’s proven he can win the big one
@@FatimaChesterfield He was in the Superbowl!!!! Can you say that about Dak? He's been in the league how long? With so-called Superbowl ready teams every year. Never made it
And he clearly said being a game manager isn't a bad thing. Lol y'all just read headlines and go off that. Tom Brady is a game manager and hes the mf GOAT.
Joy gets on my last nerve with her irritating voice and her stand up for Shady attitude, she always sounds like his puppet, and she thinks she sounds so intelligent with her stupid stat check, how can Hurts be better than Dak, but Acho gave stats that said the Eagles don't need Hurts to win playoff games, the Cowboys depend on Dak, too much sometimes
U'll A DEBATE SHOW NADA SPORTS SHOW!! joy STIFLE HERMOSA SELF!! U TALK TO MUCH STOP READING SCRIPT MAMI KNOW THE GAME & U CANT IF U NADA PLAY,D!!!!🤔🥱✋👠🧁
how is Dak better when Jalen has accomplished more? More talented does not equal better. If that's the case Rodgers is better then Brady. Winning is defintley a stat that ways more on the QB then any other postion. The naiveness is crazy smh, Is Dak better then Lamar ....... Exactly
@@YungSwoosh68Jalen Hurts has had the most stacked team in the league since 2022. I'm a 9er fan, I hate both of these teams. If we're taking last year into account, Dak should definitely be ahead of Hurts. They were both 0-1 in the playoffs, and Hurts became one of most turnover prone QBs in the league without Steichan calling plays. I personally think Dak is the 11th best, and Hurts is around the 13th.
@zackhurwitz9441 Hurts carried a bottom 5 team to the playoffs twice has 2 pro bowls an All Pro and a conference championship in 3 years. He is top 10 BARE minimum.
Speak is full of dodos. In the ULTIMATE team sport, these guys and gal say "since his team wins, he's a better player"? Props to JJ for speaking some facts here.
how is Dak better when Jalen has accomplished more? More talented does not equal better. If that's the case Rodgers is better then Brady. Winning is defintley a stat that ways more on the QB then any other postion. The naiveness is crazy smh, Is Dak better then Lamar ....... Exactly
@@YungSwoosh68 So you never played the sport. Its okay. Most people have no clue. DEFENSE wins championships. The Cowboys brought out a defense with NO LINEBACKERS. That's why good teams ran the ball all over them and beat the brakes out of them. To beat good defenses, you need a Run game as well as a passing game. The Cowboys had a running back who had the vision of a junebug. Dak ain't the Cowboys problem, and he's a much better quarterback than most other QBs in the league.
@@YungSwoosh68 Nah, just tired of mid fans who have no clue. Dak didn't let the Packers score a TD every time they had the ball. Dak didn't tell CeeDee to play like trash the 1st half (while whining). Dak didn't tell Pollard to run right into the defense. Dak didn't tell Micah to sleep during the game. But go ahead and keep blaming the best player that day for the Cowboys.
I’m an Eagles fan and for once, I agree with James/Cam’s take here. If I’m a player I’d want the QB with more experience and pedigree, especially given they both have similar stats since Jalen started. Giving QBs all the credit for wins/losses is too vague for it to be an accurate depiction of how they play. In most situations I’d prefer to have a person with more experience. With that being said I think Hurts has a higher ceiling and will be the better QB by the time they’re both retired
I don’t even like the cowboys but I gotta agree with cam, I’d take dak over hurts. Like James said dak is a better passer & hurts only had one good season in which his defense played a big role in them getting to the SB. Granted he played good in the SB but dak is the better QB he just folds in the playoffs. I gotta see what hurts does this year to change my opinion.
@@navarriosharp8824 Dude you a major clown if you literally said Cam isn't biased. Did you hear how upset he was when he heard Kirk Cousins got paid? He literally said that should have gave that money to him or Vick and they haven't played in years.😭
@@makai_goat215& what did the defense do? Gave their team stops to add up those points. Only game they weren't good was KC. Both the other games neither team hit 10 points & had multiple TOs
@@MikkiChavezJalen Hurts scored 5 TDs in the SB His Defense allowed 6 incompletions the entire game Your QB should never have 1 less TD then your Defense has forced incompletions
Jalen has literally not been impressive in any playoff game he has been in. If he didn't have a top 3 WR core, best Oline, and top 5 Defense, he would be very average
@@RichMMedia You're right. I didn't compare the stats completely because I was being nice. Let's see hurts had a 188 yd against a terrible giant's team. Then he beat a San Francisco team with a fourth string quarterback. He also had a 121 yd that game and 0 touchdowns, but yes, please continue. He got carried and when he played a good team with the Chiefs, he lost.
@@Chandelier_Musicnot about being impressive it’s bout wins dumb dumb that’s whole point of any game is to WIN!!!! Not look pretty you can do that dressing up but to compete?? Wining is always the end goal point blank period
James was the first person to bring up other quarterbacks in the conversation 🙄 and then when it turns against his argument 🙄 he wants to stop bringing up other quarterbacks😂😂😂 He started talking about Josh Allen from the gate 😳
that josh allen shot was a joke because thats Shady's guy, his actual friend and former teammate. So Shady doesnt talk bad about him, or dances around it when its time to be objective
Love how you don’t mention that when the defense sells them like the did multiple time that year how Jalen put the team on his back to get them in position to win
He didn’t say fields was better then hurts he said Justin fields can do the same things Jalen’s hurts can you f he had the same weapons which is not crazy to sau
@@seankelly4594that is not what he said.. he literally said Fields was the better QB, but Hurts was in a better position. The same Justin Fields that is being asked to do punt returns right now in Pittsburgh. Jalen is better.. plays better when the pressure is on and beats teams over .500 Jalen has beaten Mahomes.. Allen… Tua… Dak… Lawrence.. ARod… all of these QBs people are saying that are top QBs.. Jalen has beaten them. Can we say that about Dak? 😮
First of all, he didn’t say being a game manager was bad. Listen to that entire video he posted. He talked about how game managers control the game, don’t make mistakes and slow it down to ensure a victory. There is nothing wrong with that. Tom Brady was that for nearly half of his career.
It everybody should just read the title . That his opinion Cam and James will take Dak over Hurts . Everybody going elsewhere with the take smh just want to argue lmao😂.
Man who wouldnt make the superbowl vs a danny dimes led giants where he threw for 135, 0 TDs, and 1 int, and vs a QB less 49ers team that didnt even hit 100 air yds, and in both games hurts didnt even hit 200yds from scrimmage
Dak lost to the 9ers 3rd string Rookie QB that had 5 career starts going into the game How did Micah have less sacks against Brock Purdy then Reddick did? Didn't the Cowboys lose to the Commanders to end the 2022 regular season? So Eagles are mocked for beating the Giants and 9ers yet Dak gets credit for losing to the Commanders and 9ers?🤣🤡💀🤦
He had a bad shoulder that year so don’t forget that and missed games in the same season and was still hurt playing that’s why he didn’t have a lot stats because he was hurt so stop with your narrative and I have one question for you 307 yards passing 4 touchdowns in the superbowl name one quarterback that has done that and I will wait that’s active not even Patrick mahomes has done that statistically.
@@TheodoreNicklasread a defense just fine in 2022 when the playcalling wasn’t atrocious, a real Eagles fan would know this but you clearly a Dallas fan in disguise
It's so funny how they really hate Jalen Hurts bc what have Dak done. He had a great numbers bc he played mediocre games, but when the eagles had that same schedule, the yr before they still refused to give them credit. So them Evaluations is just a joke at this point.
Tell me you dont know football without telling me.. Hurts and dak being in the same division dam near have the same schedule. They play the same 14 teams which counts each other. So every medicore team dak plays so does hurts.... 😂😂😂😂😂
@JasonM31 yeah I do and they be on some wish washy at times at least Acho. Shady of course bc he was an eagle. Joy she just speaks her mind. I actually stop watching the show after week 11. Yes I'm a eagle fans and have been for 37 yrs but over all I'm a sports fanatic and I like to see more than then seeing someone discuss more than 3 to 4 teams all season.
@FSamuels20 I'm talking about the Hurts hater , Jones I'm not talking about Shady, Joy or Acho though Acho flip flops a lot. I was just speaking my opinion . It wasn't that serious. Yes I love my Eagles but I want to see more than them just speaking on the same 3 - 4 teams that's why I stopped watching after week 11
lmfao this is hilarious. Mahomes has played in 18 less regular season games. The fact that Mahomes has already matched him or surpassed him in certain stats, just goes to show you how good Mahomes is.
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But she just compared a stat and said it's the same when one had 134 and the other 99 that ain't the same tf that's 35 total tds difference but she said it's a wash make no sense lol
"What does Jalen do better than Dak?" So, since what I originally said was somewhat manipulative, is this better??? Dak Prescott faced a 2 score deficit 5 times in 2023 @ ARI @ SF @ PHI @ BUF @ MIAMI He lost all 5 with the worst passer rating and TD/INT ratio in the league while trailing Jalen Hurts did 6 times in 2023 vs WSH @ WSH @ KC vs BUF vs SF vs DAL He went 4-2 with the best passer rating and TD/INT ratio in the league while trailing
We are talking about a quarterback in Jalen Hurts, who has been to a championship game as well as a Super Bowl. Meanwhile Dak Prescott has been in the game for 8 years and hasn’t sniffed a championship or Super Bowl since. I have no clue why these two are even in the same discussion when it’s clear who is more reliable.
Hate to tell you Hurts has been exposed, Dak gets BETTER over time...Hurts was worse last year with BETTER weapons than Dak...by a lot...All time choke job. People will question if Hurts is a starter calibre qb within a year or two. I hate them cowboys, but Dak is very solid.
I would like to express my opinion on the quarterbacks Dak Prescott and Jalen Hurts. While Dak Prescott is a skilled player in the quarterback position, I believe that Jalen Hurts is a more versatile weapon on the field. This versatility is what contributed to his success and ultimately led him to the Super Bowl.
Football is a team sport. This isn't MMA or tennis. Hurts had one of the most stacked teams in history. How'd he do the following year? Team fell apart and he could do nothing to right the ship
And both got the same thing out of the season nothing going to the SB and losing is like taking your sister to the prom yeah you'll be there have fun dancing but you ain't getting no action at the end of the night
Yeah there is 64 QBs better in the league. But what he said about this situation is correct. You put Hurts and Dak on the exact same team and coaching staff dak will do a lot more damage.
Since Jalen has become a starter. 2021- Dak 2022- Hurts 2023- Dak Also get this lady off the show. The O-Line is not the same. The eagles o line is the team player. The team the eagles have around hurts is better than the team they have around Dak.
Dak missed about 8 4th quarters this past season imagine his numbers if he played. And we lost do to our defensive coach sold us out for a job he didn't get cause we all know at the beginning of the season he was leaving and was eyeing the Hawks for his new job . Didn't get cause they saw how he gave this game away and how he tried to give away the game against the lions along with the refs
@@laquanwilson9646....your right, because Dak is GREAT in garbage time, and loves to pad his stats Both guys have had elite OLines, running games, and receiving (Dez, Amari, and CeeDee vs AJ and Devonta)....Dak has been in the league twice as long and accomplished half as much.
@@laquanwilson9646Lol I love how you just tried to hype up Empty Calorie Dak 😂 You cowboy fans really are the morons of the league and deserve the ridicule for sure
@@ashtontreadway7435 Y'all casuals just need to stay off RUclips. Hurts had some of the worst coordinators in the league. And Dak wasn't hurt you dingus. He got annihilated by the Packers
Phillys defense was more of the success to their Super Bowl run than Jalen hurts. James jones was spot on with everything he, shady and joy of course gonna tag team with each other when it comes to Jalen hurts. Acho jus be saying be stuff
What about the superbowl stats don’t forget that and by the way Patrick mahomes had only 195 yards passing in the superbowl and won stop with all the hate bro stand on facts and hurts has had a different play caller every year come on man
Yea cause daks 4 ints 2 being pick 6s were so much better...both first round bounces so im confused on how your tryin to prop dak up wen he took an L as well...hurts has one bad turnover year nd o how quick u guys forgot dak lead the league 2 years ago..while missing 5 games 😂..dak has had multiple season throwin double digit picks...but its hurts who is the turnover machine...hurts plays for the dream team yet they gave a losing record without him while the cowboys having a winning record without dak...hurts has a 68% win percentage over .500 teams dak is at 52%...last year jalen had the best qbr in the league wen trailing literally ranked #1....dak had the worst😂...dont believe me go look it up...he has a few things over him...like actual success in the playoffs
It's funny that they keep trying to compare an 9 year vet with a 4 year guy who's showed up in the Playoffs and SuperBowl and has had multiple Offensive Coordinators since becoming the starter 🦅🦅🦅🦅
What kills me is we’re talking about who we would take when Jalen Hurts offense changes every year let’s see hurts with the same coordinator for more then one year then we can judge these quarterbacks be in the same system all these years and we compare them to Jalen…he’s won despite the hurdles
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Dak has never been to a super bowl though
Naw we good put speak in the morning show
@@baylor3894Again the question is we’re basing off what the QB’s do in the playoffs now?
No
That's why cam ain't in the NFL any more and why he don't own a team I take Jalen all day jalen has a stacked team but so does Prescott and yet Jalen managed in a couple seasons to make it to the Superbowl when Dak can't make it past the wild card round in 8 seasons cam smoking somthing
James jones needs to be on a panel with people who are as intelligent as him. I can feel his pain
how is Dak better when Jalen has accomplished more? More talented does not equal better. If that's the case Rodgers is better then Brady. Winning is defintley a stat that ways more on the QB then any other postion. The naiveness is crazy smh, Is Dak better then Lamar ....... Exactly
What has dak done?
@@YungSwoosh68your talking about team accomplishments, the segment was talking about individual achievements
@chrisanderson2056 every great Quaterbacks wins that common knowledge. Name the top 10 teams in the league 8 of them have a top 10 QB. Let's not play naive.
@chrisanderson2056 and if we are talking individuals achievements
Dak in 8 Years: 3 Pro Bowls 1 All Pro
Jalen in 3 Years: 2 Pro Bowls 1 All Pro
So yeah....
Everyone except James Jones moves the Field Goal post when talking about certain players
Yea i’m listening to the debate like are y’all listening to what he’s actually saying or are y’all just replying to reply? Lol because it felt like they were going in circles to a degree.
You're just now catching on that Joy, Shady, and Acho are ignorant?
Dak had an Elite roster built around him before Jalen was even drafted. Jerry doesn't control your QB constantly throwing Ints into Triple coverage
I don't take jone seriously when they talking about aaron or dak
Jones haven't said nothing about dak flaws. Ever! Dak is not that guy. But get ready for another heartbreak😂
This segment was is about Cam Newton saying he chooses Dak over HERBERT, Trevor Lawrence. Kyler Murray, Kirk Cousins and Jalen but y’all see they only wanna single out Jalen Hurts 😂😂😂😂😂. I see what’s going on
@@Phillystresssportsfan It's such a simple argument too.
Dak: 5/8 seasons of 70+ QBR, high of 77.6
Herbert: 1/4 seasons of 70+ QBR, high of 70.9
Lawrence: 0/3 seasons of 70+ QBR, high of 56.1
Murray: 0/5 seasons of 70+ QBR, high of 63.2
Cousins: 1/12 seasons of 70+ QBR, high of 77.7 (48 passing attempts rookie season)
Hurts: 0/4 seasons of 70+ QBR, high of 68.3
Dak below 500 against Kyler and Trevor, but ok. 😂😂
That clip of Cam also stated Dak & Mahomes had very identical stats this past season lmao
See I knew it was something
@@smudgeous4068 take Kyler Murray and put him behind the line those weapons and I bet he go to the championship game
James is fr trying to save this show from being canceled James Jones is trying to reason with 3 clowns.
James Jones is on the wrong show. He's a legit unbiased analyst, way too good for this show. Joy and Shady needs to be cut.
That was his first mistake 😂
Exactly!
I liked ol girl when she jus broke up intense debates and moved the show along she doin way to much now
They gonna compare Dak and Hurts stats and say they are similar over the last 4-5 years but also fail to remember Dak lost an entire year and still has the same stats. Give Dak that year back I’m sure he would have made it to the NFC title game if not the Super Bowl and with that said the stats between him and Jaylen would be far removed.
Joy- stats don’t tell the whole story
Proceeds to list of stats as to why there the same player
Lol that cracked me up 🤣😂
Exactly lol she's dumb
Yes because sometimes a player could have similar stats to another guy but their situations are completely different. Both Hurts and Dak have top 5 teams in terms of talent surrounding them. So the circumstances being the same lends more credibility to the stats.
@@justinmusumeci5082 Notices how she added TOTAL TDs instead of passing TDs?
@@mar-jax9341 do rushing tds count less?🤔
Shady had no argument against what James said, so he immediately brings up TEAM accomplishments 😂
It's s team sport - If he was the better QB why does it not show in his success - Dak has been on better teams so far and still has achieved less - Dak is the 1st #2 seed QB in playoffs to lose to a #7 seed - he is good for ratings not wins
Both guys have had elite OLines, running games, and receiving (Dez, Amari, and CeeDee vs AJ and Devonta)....Dak has been in the league twice as long and accomplished half as much.
Shady is 1000% correct
@@Lboogs7So what has Jalen Hurts won?
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mthe conference 😭😭
JJ the only one using logic
He's usually the only one using logic
Except with Aaron Rodgers.
Jj just rides for whoever. He don't want to talk bad about dak or aaron rodgers. He is just biased and always will be. He don't really tell the truth
@@hinata365247 No. He has logic. Unlike the others.
@@maskedman5657 he loves dak and aaron rodgers. He will never say nothing bad about dak. Go to his other videos about him. He is the only one who take up for the cowboys.
They refuse to answer James Jones question LMAO
And James jones couldn’t answer is Aaron rodgers better then Brady?
This was actually a nice debate.
@@-th3headedgoat-641 oh man. lol
@@-th3headedgoat-641h
The amount of gas lighting that's goes on this show is wild 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Joy is shady's puppet and it's really annoying! James is the only person on the show wth his own opinion!
He’s probably 👏🏾
What did she say that was wrong? She brought up a great point about them performing similarly during the regular season but hurts is better in the playoffs. Please tell me what she said wrong lmao.
Because they arent talking about that. Wins aren't a QB stat. If post season and Superbowls are a measurement for how good a QB is than Tom Brady is the most talented QB to ever play. Do you think that?
Get joy outta there she agree with anything Mccoy say🤦🏾♂️ cause ya shady days is over
She been doing this lol it’s annoying
@@Semperityy facts
Dallass days have been over since 1996
@@Cali-Green-Birds96 I don’t care about that im talking bout joy
@@bars_over_namesbattlerap7161 Yea she bad huh bro.... Lookin like a MF Snack🤤
Dallas defense gives up 30 plus points every playoff game. What QB has a shot to win that way unless your name is Tom Brady.
Or Patrick Mahomes...💯
Dak gives the other team more chances to score. Multiple ints in each of the last 2 Ls.
@@joshfisher1299What quarterback in the NFL doesn't throw picks in the playoffs??? The Dallas defense did nothing to stop the opposition. We have to stop with the bullsh.t. If Dak walks, it's over. I don't know WTF these crying .ss fans are complaining for. If the front office were to be more aggressive and stop being so f..king cheap and bring in some real players. Instead they love to pick off of the scrap heap. And it has come back to bite them in the .ss again and again.
@trthepredator Mahomes, Rodgers, Burrow, Brees, and Eli Manning have all won 1 or fewer playoff games in their career when throwing multiple ints. Throwing multiple ints then requires you to rely on the defense hence making you part of why the team loses if it does.
And Dallas gave up what 40 sumin pts against Green Bay last season in the playoffs. Jalen hurts is good-ok but he’s limited to what he can do and I think their defense keeps them alive against superior teams. Dak is good a qb but he does make some bad costly decisions in the must win games and moments but he’s definitely a better thrower! I agree with James jones
Stop it Joy. 🛑
You first pal...
lol you’d take Kirk too cause he is what Dak is😂
Joy is a waste..Wtf is she talking about
You stop 😂
she scared of mccoy she looks at him when she is explaining… he told her better have my back in evry topic lol
Jones is always cooking them boys. He’s always keeping it 100 real analyst.
The pay Shady, Joy, and Acho to sound like bozos
They act like they see every flaw in Dak but don't see any of hurts flaws. As a saints fan I'm saying Dak is better😂
Jones just don't like talking bad about aaron rodgers and dak. James is the most biased on this show.
Skip need to deebo acho for James and give key sherm and mike the boot
Except when it’s Aaron Rodgers so he isn’t 100 percent real and unbiased
You know why they think winning is a QB stat? It takes much more brainpower to actually dissect the game of football than it is to just praise the QB for everything. James Jones is 1000% correct on this
FACTS
Winning is everything for a QB
@@kevonsidek9737 as far as legacy. Yes. But in determining their skill level and actual QB play. No. That same eagles team won a super bowl with a backup QB. How far your team gets in the playoffs is based on the whole team.
The other guy on the end starts talking trash about James while looking at the person sitting next to him. Be a man and look the the person in the eye that you are talking sh** about
@@kevonsidek9737 winning is also everything for the TEAM
James looking like why is she even talking 😂
Jalen stats DO NOT compare to daks 😂
Stats?? Laughing emojis?
It’s more to football than stats. Russell Westbrook has better stats than a lot of players…
Yeah! Because dak been playing for 8 years. He ain't going to get any better. He hit his peak.
I sure tf hope a QB going into year 9 has better stats then a QB going into year 5🤦
@marvinmj7075 and Westbrook is a top 75 basketball player of all time. So exactly what is your point
Joy reminding everyone she's just there because of nepotism 😂
And tig ole bitties
@@user-qr7ee2cp4yNot really
Who are her parents?
Every episode
@@Codye-cf6ip Brother
nfl hall of fame
Jalen has a better front office. Period....
This is the correct answer lmao
@@jeremyhale45 and yet he had to learn a new offense every year he's been in philly because the OC either left or got fired. Still lead the team to the playoffs
@@jeremyhale45 The Cowboys have been some of the best drafters in the league though for like the past 7 seasons
@@maskedman5657 Yet, there one and done at playoffs and they could only beat weak teams, with no QB'S. Against Great teams they show there true colors as the fruads they are...🤷♂️
Yea Jerry is the reason Dak has 4 Ints in only his last 2 playoff games🤣
I love how Joy had to say 300 "total yard" games. Not 300 yard passing games...
whycoes it matter
??
@@NoWayBro88 why does it matter
She has to use semantics to make them sound close to comparable.
If the question was, "who is a better system QB, that can run a read option better?". Then, maybe Hurts has him, but the question is, "who is the better QB?". That's all Dak. Better arm, better feel for the game, and more anticipatory. Their 2 MVP caliber years aren't even comparable...
@NoWayBro88 that logic falls flat because you wouldn't dare say Dak is better then Lamar, and those statements can still apply. Hurts near MVP season every much comparable when you realize he missed 3 games and sat out a slot of 4th qtrs due to blowouts.
Last I checked Daks defense is allowed to not give up 41 in the playoffs 😂😂 but let’s blame him for that game
Didn’t he throw a couple pick six that game ?!
Lol
What about the previous one? Or the one before that? Have you ever considered that Dak was a reason why they scored 41? Cowboys can pretend like Dak is not Kirk Cousins tho…
Dan Quinn sold that defense. He was playing Nickel against Aaron Jones of all people 😂
Dak was the reason Packers scored 14 of their first 27pts.... Dak has 4 Ints in only his last 2 playoff games🤣
Never heard the term “Regular Season QB” until Dak Prescott lmaooo
Na they said the same thing about Peyton Manning until he won
they say the same thing about Lamar. Its really dumb how every debate on this show turns into playoff wins when football is the ultimate team sport. They act like theyre talking about tennis or golf
If you never heard this term about Philips Rivers or Peyton Manning... Then it shows how young you are and when you actually starting watching Football
Peyton, Rivers, Marino all HOFers. All were labeled great "regular season" QBs
You had to just start watching football this year
Joy absolutely made a fool of herself with this debate. Their numbers are nowhere near the same. Dak is the better quarterback. I'm no Cowboys fan but even I can see the delusional behavior being put on display
It’s Eagles bias. Shady is biased towards to Eagles and Joy is biased towards Shady.
Dak is the better QB and there isn’t a debate. If you want to throw wins in there then Purdy is an unquestioned top 5 QB. Probably top 3.
Better at throwing the football and nothing else
@@skillethead15how is it not a debate? Dude won 2 playoff games in 10 years what are u saying lol
Dak played twice as long and accomplished half as much.
@HumbleQuis better QBR, better comp%, better throwing inside the pocket, better throwing outside the pocket, throws for more yards, throws for more TDs, also and this is a very big one he can actually read the defensive scheme he is playing against, this is something jalen really needs to work on if he wants to have a long career at his position. The one and only single thing jalen does better is run the football.
Jalen Hurts took his team to 1 Super Bowl
Dak Prescott never brought his team to a Super Bowl
So yeah, Jalen Hurts is better
Exactly lol that’s the whole point of being a QB TO LEAD UR TEAM TO A SB 😂 I never seen Jalen throw 6 picks in a playoff game AND DAK HAS BEEN IN THE LEAGUE LONGER
& Goff is better than Lamar, Josh Allen & Herbert since he took the rams to SB in 2019
@@YoRioTV It takes a whole team to win and go to the super bowl lol. The QB doesn't play Defense of Special Teams..
Fax
Did they win tho?
Winning is kot a qb stat its a team stat... it's not Daks fault our defense got thrashed for 300 rushing yards against the Rams with Darnell Henderson and Todd Gurley. The defense isn't as elite as people have been making it out to be.
Not even a Cowboys fan but I’m taking Dak over Hurts any day and it’s not even close. Everyone wants to talk about how Hurts went to the Super Bowl but let’s be real they got to play the Giants and the 49ers who couldn’t even attempt a forward pass to get to the super bowl. Acho said Hurts has never been the reason his team has lost in the playoffs but what about his most recent playoff game? Why does Hurts get a pass for that game just because his defense was bad? The offense put up 9 points, it’s not like they were in a shootout. Gotta keep that same energy they have for Dak losing to Green Bay. People get so caught up in the fact that Hurts has been to a super bowl so we might as well put Jimmy Garoppolo in that same category right?
Preach it brother🙏🏼
Hurts performed way better in the Super Bowl than Garoppolo.
@@Judge_Meridian My point was that these guys pretty much hold onto the fact that Hurts went to a Super Bowl and Dak hasn’t. I’m simply pointing out that just because you won more playoff games doesn’t make you a better QB. Jimmy Garoppolo is a perfect example for that. I don’t care if Hurts played better in one game, I think Hurts is a better QB than Garoppolo obviously but I’m not making that judgment based off of who played better in the Super Bowl.
Yeah the problem is they are asked to do a lot different.
Jalen is in a more rpo heavy offense, and Dak is in a more pass heavy offense. So Dak looks more impressive in the regular season while Jalen ends up being alot more efficient.
Also I think Daks coaches failed him when it mattered most. Also Hurts played like in MVP in that Superbowl.
Preach
Why is Joy even on this show 😒😒😒😒😒
Why ? You just like looking at guys 😂
She irritating asf bruh
@@arturocarranza9387nah we don’t like hearing women speak about sports 😂she’s on here for the exact reason you said
Youa real goofy lol@@arturocarranza9387
@@djprunty5750facts
Shady is being bias 😂 He knows JJ is speaking pure facts and as far as Joy, who cares about her opinion 🤦🏾♂️
James is right. All Hurts had to do was score more than 7 points in both playoff games.
Cowboys 5-1 without Dak.. Eagles 1-3 withouth Hurts.
Dak and Hurts played the same exact 9ers Defense🤦
Dak also lost to the Commanders to end the 2022 season yet you're crying about the Eagles beating NY?
I’ll take a player who can perform in bigtime games. Dak can throw better sure, but he also can cost you the game, Jalen has never been the reason they lose in playoff games, the Super Bowl is a perfect example
“Dak is the reason they lost against Green Bay last year” WTF??? Cowboys D let up 42pts…. Everyone forgetting Dak put Tom Brady out to pasture in that playoff game…
@@benbowman4590 i guess you forgot about the pick 6 and other turnovers. Dak has played on a defense thats allowed 21pts a game or leas in 7/8 years starting. His bar to win has essentially been 22 pts. Hes mid and a stat padder that rides the wave of his team.
I agree with jones , every team and coach and organization are built different team success is great but the individual player you negate team success and focus on what they can do not what everybody else does
Dak had an Elite roster built around him before Jalen was even drafted🤦
@@Cali-Green-Birds96 and? Jalen green was gifted a god squad, was given the little giants in the second round, then given cmc at qb. Played a good game against a weaker chiefs squad with no tyreek and lost. Even after this, jalen has been given weapon after weapon, drafting bpa every draft, yet once they needed him to actually be a good qb this year, he gave them 9 points and got embarrased.
Ppl are gonna disappoint themselves putting Jalen on this pedestal
1st in wins, 2nd in total TDs, and 4th in total yards last 2 years but keep yappin
At the end of the day, we’ll see who is more reliable in the playoffs later this year and who isn’t
@@Kase28 yea. You’ll be one of the disappointed ones 😂😂😂
@@imnotlightskin2362 less disappointed than Dallas fans 😂
SO YOU MEAN TO TELL ME AS FOOTBALL FAN DAK IS A OVER ALL FOOTBALL PLAYER BETTER THEN HURTS? DONT BE BIAS…
Dak: 202TDs 74ints QBR:99%
Jalen Hurts: 67TDs 34ints QBR:91%
joy stay slobbing up shady 😂🤦🏽♂️
cry
Incel comment. Dak incels unite. We must defend dak 🤖
@@Alex-bh4rj don't be mad 😂🤣
Gawk Gawk 5,000 bro 😂
Dak stays slobbing on Zeke
Can someone shut Joy up she also hates Dak😂😂😂
She upset cause she took her shot and he shut her down
James is right, wtf are we arguing? Clearly one team carried a QB better than the other one.
Dallas had 6 all pros last year and you are telling me Dak doesn’t have a supporting cast? Get a grip
@@theyokester3541Two of those all pros were special team players, the other was Bland because he broke an NFL record and the others were his linemen. Cee Dee and Micha were the only actual all pros at positions that mattered and they both disappear in big games like Dak does
@@theyokester3541 WR Eagles better, OLine Eagles better, RB Eagles better, TE both are the same. Dak doesnt have the support that Hurst said.
@@tigera6 he had a defense that could at least force turnovers and make stops. Eagles defense allowed 30+ points to the Commanders twice, made Mac Jones look like Tom Brady and let Drew Lock do a legacy drive to win the game
Hurts was top 3 in Ints last year, most QBs that do this have tons of passing yards but he did not. Tp put it in perspective Hurts was 20th passing from within the pocket last year & far outside the top 10 in every other QB stat. The reality is Hurts has better WRs overall, 100% a better oline, a better RB last year & top10 TE but failed
Winning is a team stat. No one QB is single handedly winning games.
I don't like Dak but to say Hurts is a better actual Quarterback than him is disrespectful. We're talking about throwing the football
Jalen has a better Deep ball and Dak literally average 1 pass of 20+yds per game.... Dink and Dunk Prescott🤣
Causuals lmao, quarterbacking is not just throwing the football. Rushing, decision making, game management, scoring the football, and putting your team in position to win. It all matters. Eagles are SB champs without Mahomes legs.
Rushing is the only thing Hurts is better than Dak in
@@mar-jax9341 Hurts is 1st in wins, 2nd in total TDs, and 4th in total yards past 2 years. The facts say otherwise
The QB position evolved past being a pure passer years ago.
dak would’ve had to score 42 points to win their last playoff game 🤣 meanwhile hurts needed 160 yards and 8 points but hurts is better at winning right ? it’s clearly a team effect.. if we’re talking strictly QB play dak is better
Dak is better but when is he going to win?🤔 Jalen proved he’s more then capable of winning the big one! 10-1 last year off of talent alone👌🏾 coaching and poor secondary played a part in our downfall but bottom line is in the 4th quarter u taking dak over Jalen? Is laughable
They're a wash in stats. 1 made a SB, 1 has played longer and has yet to do that. I think it's pretty cut and dry.
@@aamirkhari8972 the eagles ran the ball down the giants throat while daniel jones disappeared. then played an injured 49ers team. after he fumbled away that super bowl in the first half but yea he’s proven he can win the big one
Did AJ brown play?
@@name-tm6ti thank you
14:46 the fact that we just gon ignore that fumble in the sb .. definitely a game changer
Dak never made it to the Superbowl that's why
Hurts still coughed that rock in THE most important game dude lost the SB
cams fumble in the sb was 10x worse just stared at it😂
@@FatimaChesterfield 400 yards and 4 tds but he’s the reason the eagles lost?? Lmaooo learn ball buddy
@@FatimaChesterfield He was in the Superbowl!!!! Can you say that about Dak? He's been in the league how long? With so-called Superbowl ready teams every year. Never made it
Dak had 36 TD’s with 9 INT while Hurts have 23 TD’s with 15 INT numbers don’t lie
Didn't cam say Dak was a game manager but u pick Dak over hurts 🤔
If you haven't noticed... Cam Newton has horrible football takes
Both of them are game managers though😂
And he clearly said being a game manager isn't a bad thing. Lol y'all just read headlines and go off that. Tom Brady is a game manager and hes the mf GOAT.
@@maskedman5657Nah y'all just sensative and don't actually listen to what someone is saying. Y'all read headline and then run off crying about it.
Bith are gane managers. Hurts isn't that special. He was a 1 year wonder.
Joy gets on my last nerve with her irritating voice and her stand up for Shady attitude, she always sounds like his puppet, and she thinks she sounds so intelligent with her stupid stat check, how can Hurts be better than Dak, but Acho gave stats that said the Eagles don't need Hurts to win playoff games, the Cowboys depend on Dak, too much sometimes
The D does crazy things
Dallas can't win with Dak they ain't done it yet
@@robertschoelerman7496because Dallas has the worst team culture in the league
Beauty but Arrogant non knowing ,, go Model MaMi... U speak on ur brothers NFL play Like u do other young NFL ACTIVES!!!
U'll A DEBATE SHOW NADA SPORTS SHOW!! joy STIFLE HERMOSA SELF!! U TALK TO MUCH STOP READING SCRIPT MAMI KNOW THE GAME & U CANT IF U NADA PLAY,D!!!!🤔🥱✋👠🧁
I can’t believe 3 ppl actually said Hurts. James we’re with you my dawg
dak is decent at best he’s kirk cousins jalen is better than cousins you cant
Dak hasn’t done anything for the Cowboys
how is Dak better when Jalen has accomplished more? More talented does not equal better. If that's the case Rodgers is better then Brady. Winning is defintley a stat that ways more on the QB then any other postion. The naiveness is crazy smh, Is Dak better then Lamar ....... Exactly
@@YungSwoosh68Jalen Hurts has had the most stacked team in the league since 2022.
I'm a 9er fan, I hate both of these teams. If we're taking last year into account, Dak should definitely be ahead of Hurts. They were both 0-1 in the playoffs, and Hurts became one of most turnover prone QBs in the league without Steichan calling plays.
I personally think Dak is the 11th best, and Hurts is around the 13th.
@zackhurwitz9441 Hurts carried a bottom 5 team to the playoffs twice has 2 pro bowls an All Pro and a conference championship in 3 years.
He is top 10 BARE minimum.
It’s nice to hear Jones speaking objective facts instead of glazing AR every show lol
Speak is full of dodos. In the ULTIMATE team sport, these guys and gal say "since his team wins, he's a better player"?
Props to JJ for speaking some facts here.
how is Dak better when Jalen has accomplished more? More talented does not equal better. If that's the case Rodgers is better then Brady. Winning is defintley a stat that ways more on the QB then any other postion. The naiveness is crazy smh, Is Dak better then Lamar ....... Exactly
@@YungSwoosh68 So you never played the sport. Its okay. Most people have no clue. DEFENSE wins championships. The Cowboys brought out a defense with NO LINEBACKERS. That's why good teams ran the ball all over them and beat the brakes out of them. To beat good defenses, you need a Run game as well as a passing game. The Cowboys had a running back who had the vision of a junebug. Dak ain't the Cowboys problem, and he's a much better quarterback than most other QBs in the league.
@@LeonBeard you are abolutely yapping to cope for Dak. He played arguably the worst game of his career.
@@YungSwoosh68 Nah, just tired of mid fans who have no clue. Dak didn't let the Packers score a TD every time they had the ball. Dak didn't tell CeeDee to play like trash the 1st half (while whining). Dak didn't tell Pollard to run right into the defense. Dak didn't tell Micah to sleep during the game. But go ahead and keep blaming the best player that day for the Cowboys.
@@LeonBeard Ceedee didn't tell Dak to throw two six picks Cope
Joy is a Jalen groupie, you can’t ask her anything about buddy lol
She a groupie of Garbage mcoy he did nothing in neither supbowl but ride the bench
James mad they mentioned 12 but he brought up josh first 🤣🤣🤣
Because they were getting mad at him for bringing up josh allen and then they brought up tom brady, 12, and lamar jackson. hypocrisy at its finest.
I’m an Eagles fan and for once, I agree with James/Cam’s take here. If I’m a player I’d want the QB with more experience and pedigree, especially given they both have similar stats since Jalen started. Giving QBs all the credit for wins/losses is too vague for it to be an accurate depiction of how they play. In most situations I’d prefer to have a person with more experience. With that being said I think Hurts has a higher ceiling and will be the better QB by the time they’re both retired
Speak when someone takes a Cowboys player over a Eagles player: 😡
Commanders will win the Division
@@Brian-zp1df Win last place? 🤔😂
@@JayDabs420 what u smokin'?
@@Brian-zp1dfnahh what you smokin ? Redskins might get 5 wins max
It’s hard to pick a player from a team that has been irrelevant in the playoffs for a decade.
16:21 when james started pointing at acho lmao😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Finally somebody on this panel that actually know what the freak he talking about
You're talking about JJ right?
Yea bro Joy knows her stuff
@maskedman5657 Yeah I'm talking about Jennings cause Joy, Acho, Shady gone always be biased against the Cowboys
@@maskedman5657 I mean Jones
@@phamilyg3577The fact that you know Greg Jennings but not James Jones is why your opinion has already been void my guy 🤣
I like Joy Screaming. 😊
Winning is a QB stat, but some media craps on Brock Purdy 😂 Make it make sense lmao
I don’t even like the cowboys but I gotta agree with cam, I’d take dak over hurts. Like James said dak is a better passer & hurts only had one good season in which his defense played a big role in them getting to the SB. Granted he played good in the SB but dak is the better QB he just folds in the playoffs. I gotta see what hurts does this year to change my opinion.
Cam Newton & Shady are basically the same person.
Nah Cam isn't bias at all like shady. They are not the same.
Immature cats almost touching 40 but shady funny asf😭💯
No they are not. Cam don't have bias
@@navarriosharp8824 Dude you a major clown if you literally said Cam isn't biased. Did you hear how upset he was when he heard Kirk Cousins got paid? He literally said that should have gave that money to him or Vick and they haven't played in years.😭
@maskedman5657 That's not bias that jealousy two different things
Jones gets salty when you talk about Rodgers!😂 he starts shaking, love it!😂
Factz
Cam is right on this one. Shady must forget that defense more than the offense carried them to the Superbowl
Yeah, scoring 31, 38 and 35 were all defensive points 😂
31 38 35 was all defense points sure thing buddy
@@makai_goat215& what did the defense do? Gave their team stops to add up those points. Only game they weren't good was KC. Both the other games neither team hit 10 points & had multiple TOs
@@MikkiChavezJalen Hurts scored 5 TDs in the SB
His Defense allowed 6 incompletions the entire game
Your QB should never have 1 less TD then your Defense has forced incompletions
@@Cali-Green-Birds96 If you really raving bout those 2 yard rushes then idk what to tell you lol It's just stats padding.
I really cannot believe this is still a discussion today when we know who is more reliable in the playoffs and who isn’t
Ah yes a 2-3 record vs a 2-5 record 😂 and one has several more seasons under his belt.😂 Do some research before speaking
Who's been in the league longer? Who has a NFC championship. You're leaving a lot of details out there 😂@@CaveTed
Jalen has literally not been impressive in any playoff game he has been in. If he didn't have a top 3 WR core, best Oline, and top 5 Defense, he would be very average
@@RichMMedia You're right. I didn't compare the stats completely because I was being nice. Let's see hurts had a 188 yd against a terrible giant's team. Then he beat a San Francisco team with a fourth string quarterback. He also had a 121 yd that game and 0 touchdowns, but yes, please continue. He got carried and when he played a good team with the Chiefs, he lost.
@@Chandelier_Musicnot about being impressive it’s bout wins dumb dumb that’s whole point of any game is to WIN!!!! Not look pretty you can do that dressing up but to compete?? Wining is always the end goal point blank period
James was the first person to bring up other quarterbacks in the conversation 🙄 and then when it turns against his argument 🙄 he wants to stop bringing up other quarterbacks😂😂😂
He started talking about Josh Allen from the gate 😳
that josh allen shot was a joke because thats Shady's guy, his actual friend and former teammate. So Shady doesnt talk bad about him, or dances around it when its time to be objective
@@AlkielHe doesn’t hold Josh Allen accountable for his actions and wrongdoings.
I love how McCoy doesn't credit Phillys 2022 run to the defense..absolute joke man 😂😂😂😂
Love how you don’t mention that when the defense sells them like the did multiple time that year how Jalen put the team on his back to get them in position to win
@zzzkun2526 you mean Aj Brown? 😂😂😂😂 🤡
@@zzzkun2526That part .
you mean the defense that didn't get a stop in the 2nd half of the superbowl
I’m an eagles fan we were horrible against the run that entire year. Only thing elite on that defense was the d-line and cj
James was the same guy who said fields was better than hurts 😂
He didn’t say fields was better then hurts he said Justin fields can do the same things Jalen’s hurts can you f he had the same weapons which is not crazy to sau
@@seankelly4594Eagles didn't win a single game without Jalen Hurts
Cowboys went 4-1 without Dak🤣🤡💀
@@seankelly4594that is not what he said.. he literally said Fields was the better QB, but Hurts was in a better position. The same Justin Fields that is being asked to do punt returns right now in Pittsburgh. Jalen is better.. plays better when the pressure is on and beats teams over .500
Jalen has beaten Mahomes.. Allen… Tua… Dak… Lawrence.. ARod… all of these QBs people are saying that are top QBs.. Jalen has beaten them. Can we say that about Dak? 😮
@@LBoogie1978 preach it
😂😂
Dak is a better QB than hurts hands down, there is only 2 QBs in the NFL that I would take over Dak
How did Joy keep her mouth shut that long
Lol
Cuz shady's nuts were in it...
Did we all forget when Cam said Dak was also just a game manager? All of a sudden he's down to have him as a QB over almost everyone else?... FOH
He didn’t change what he said if you go back and watch the clip
First of all, he didn’t say being a game manager was bad. Listen to that entire video he posted. He talked about how game managers control the game, don’t make mistakes and slow it down to ensure a victory. There is nothing wrong with that. Tom Brady was that for nearly half of his career.
He also called Tom Brady a game manager, start watching entire segments before speaking
And that’s the whole problem with dad he is a game manager qb they ask to much of him then expect elite results
It everybody should just read the title . That his opinion Cam and James will take Dak over Hurts . Everybody going elsewhere with the take smh just want to argue lmao😂.
Man who wouldnt make the superbowl vs a danny dimes led giants where he threw for 135, 0 TDs, and 1 int, and vs a QB less 49ers team that didnt even hit 100 air yds, and in both games hurts didnt even hit 200yds from scrimmage
FAAAAACTS
Dak lost to the 9ers 3rd string Rookie QB that had 5 career starts going into the game
How did Micah have less sacks against Brock Purdy then Reddick did?
Didn't the Cowboys lose to the Commanders to end the 2022 regular season? So Eagles are mocked for beating the Giants and 9ers yet Dak gets credit for losing to the Commanders and 9ers?🤣🤡💀🤦
Which Position on Defense does Brock Purdy play? Jalen Hurts faced Brock Purdy & Deebo Samuel? He wasn't going against Fred Warner & Nick Bosa??
He had a bad shoulder that year so don’t forget that and missed games in the same season and was still hurt playing that’s why he didn’t have a lot stats because he was hurt so stop with your narrative and I have one question for you 307 yards passing 4 touchdowns in the superbowl name one quarterback that has done that and I will wait that’s active not even Patrick mahomes has done that statistically.
Jalen hurts has more NFC championship wins than Dak will ever have
All this Jalen hurts hate😂😂😂 opinions are gonna change very quickly once the season starts
Yr 5..maybe he'll READ DEFENSES this yr...😢😢😢
Dude peaked in 2022. Lmao. Dude was TRASH in 2023.
@@TheodoreNicklasread a defense just fine in 2022 when the playcalling wasn’t atrocious, a real Eagles fan would know this but you clearly a Dallas fan in disguise
@@theyokester3541I don’t want to hear about play calling when hurts still have to throw the ball
He was hurt week 3 i said it before it happen we would win then f it off smh now he healthy lfg@@michaelking5089
Joy “generalizes takes” taylor
Lol good one shady respectfully 😂
If Dak is so much better, why he hasn't been signed?
It's so funny how they really hate Jalen Hurts bc what have Dak done. He had a great numbers bc he played mediocre games, but when the eagles had that same schedule, the yr before they still refused to give them credit. So them Evaluations is just a joke at this point.
Tell me you dont know football without telling me.. Hurts and dak being in the same division dam near have the same schedule. They play the same 14 teams which counts each other. So every medicore team dak plays so does hurts.... 😂😂😂😂😂
Do you even watch this show? All they do is slob the Eagles.
Wym hurts hate? 3 of the 4 panelists said hurts was better than Dak
@JasonM31 yeah I do and they be on some wish washy at times at least Acho. Shady of course bc he was an eagle. Joy she just speaks her mind. I actually stop watching the show after week 11. Yes I'm a eagle fans and have been for 37 yrs but over all I'm a sports fanatic and I like to see more than then seeing someone discuss more than 3 to 4 teams all season.
@FSamuels20 I'm talking about the Hurts hater , Jones I'm not talking about Shady, Joy or Acho though Acho flip flops a lot. I was just speaking my opinion . It wasn't that serious. Yes I love my Eagles but I want to see more than them just speaking on the same 3 - 4 teams that's why I stopped watching after week 11
Dak has identical career numbers to Mahomes Mahomes just has a better team
lmfao this is hilarious. Mahomes has played in 18 less regular season games. The fact that Mahomes has already matched him or surpassed him in certain stats, just goes to show you how good Mahomes is.
@@josephmartinez4975right! Dak is older than Jalen and Patrick and haven’t even made it to the SB 😩
Delulu buddy 😂
Where all this winning stuff come from for quarterbacks, with no super bowl, just cause you win a game or something😂
Another great segment Speak and crew. We appreciate you folk being a voice for the voices that can't always get heard.
Keep it up. One of the best shows slots on the network.
Best show slots? Nah. Not even close
@@maskedman5657 There are a couple I enjoy they are one.
Watch. First things first for the ACTUAL good sports takes
@@amgvlogs5087 I watch that too. That's why Speak hit a little different for me but both aren't all cookie cutter.
I don’t appreciate the stupidity in this conversation from 3 people
Again why joy should not be on TV .
Joy "Sqwuak" Taylor 😂
she gave you stats and your coping....
But she just compared a stat and said it's the same when one had 134 and the other 99 that ain't the same tf that's 35 total tds difference but she said it's a wash make no sense lol
Joy just likes to yell
With her logic in this take, Hurts is better than Lamar. Another year like last year. The Eagles might move off of him.
Of Course Shady would say Hurts
Acho said it best, "what does Tom Brady do better than aaron Rodgers besides win?" Winning is a qb stat and james jones doesn't believe that so
The love fest for Jalen hurts will need to be examined in the next few years. James is the only one speaking of just the player
Facts 💯
wins are deadass a qb stats y'all just be stat watchers seriously that's sad
"What does Jalen do better than Dak?"
So, since what I originally said was somewhat manipulative, is this better???
Dak Prescott faced a 2 score deficit 5 times in 2023
@ ARI
@ SF
@ PHI
@ BUF
@ MIAMI
He lost all 5 with the worst passer rating and TD/INT ratio in the league while trailing
Jalen Hurts did 6 times in 2023
vs WSH
@ WSH
@ KC
vs BUF
vs SF
vs DAL
He went 4-2 with the best passer rating and TD/INT ratio in the league while trailing
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What yr was this?! He couldn't identify a Blitz last yr
I couldn't have said this better MYSELF!!!!!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 idk what tf was going on with cam for saying that BS!!! 💩💩💩
He's Def not a better passer
Don’t know what stat your looking at but Dak is 5th all time in QBR under pressure
We are talking about a quarterback in Jalen Hurts, who has been to a championship game as well as a Super Bowl. Meanwhile Dak Prescott has been in the game for 8 years and hasn’t sniffed a championship or Super Bowl since. I have no clue why these two are even in the same discussion when it’s clear who is more reliable.
Fanboys need fodder
@@WhatAboutsAndWhatifs Hey, you can’t hate you know it’s the truth
The team made it to the super bowl Hurts is not better than Dak. The Eagles may be better than the Cowboys.
Hate to tell you Hurts has been exposed, Dak gets BETTER over time...Hurts was worse last year with BETTER weapons than Dak...by a lot...All time choke job. People will question if Hurts is a starter calibre qb within a year or two. I hate them cowboys, but Dak is very solid.
@@chrismichael1547 How can you say that when Jalen hurts still has many years in the NFL left to improve? Dak Prescott time is creeping up.
I would like to express my opinion on the quarterbacks Dak Prescott and Jalen Hurts. While Dak Prescott is a skilled player in the quarterback position, I believe that Jalen Hurts is a more versatile weapon on the field. This versatility is what contributed to his success and ultimately led him to the Super Bowl.
And different systems
Or the Eagles defense and record number of sacks
Daks best year is losing to GB hurts best year is losing in the SB
COSTING** the Eagles the SB...
Facts fly eagles fly
@@clydedelao9533 losing* cry
Football is a team sport. This isn't MMA or tennis. Hurts had one of the most stacked teams in history. How'd he do the following year? Team fell apart and he could do nothing to right the ship
And both got the same thing out of the season nothing going to the SB and losing is like taking your sister to the prom yeah you'll be there have fun dancing but you ain't getting no action at the end of the night
Cam also said there weren't 32 QBs better than him in the league two years ago, so forgive me for not trusting his QB analysis.
He was right about that though.
@@jamieroseman4429 No he wasn't. If he truly was he would have gotten a job.
@@303Smilezzznope it's politics
He wont lying tho
Yeah there is 64 QBs better in the league. But what he said about this situation is correct. You put Hurts and Dak on the exact same team and coaching staff dak will do a lot more damage.
Dak is a 4th round pick!…. 4th! Hurts is a second! How is this even a comparison
I’ll take Dak over Hurts too in a heartbeat
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Yeah and you will never see a Super Bowl 😂😂😂😂 stupid
You'll take a guy who's never been to a SuperBowl or win a conference championship over hurts??? I'll take HURTS all day
Dak has never won anything in life ,so that’s crazy
@@marquesdunn4934 in a heartbeat I said
Joy and Shady rode Cam hard when he was calling Dak a game manager, now all of a sudden his opinion doesn’t matter 😂
Lol right! Good catch
Since Jalen has become a starter.
2021- Dak
2022- Hurts
2023- Dak
Also get this lady off the show. The O-Line is not the same. The eagles o line is the team player. The team the eagles have around hurts is better than the team they have around Dak.
Wasn’t Dak injured for a handful of games in 2022?
That’s wild to say Dak is the reason they lost late years playoff game when he doesn’t play defense 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Some of those stats are misleading. I think Dak has missed almost a season's worth of games since Jalen has been in the league, because of injuries.
Dak missed about 8 4th quarters this past season imagine his numbers if he played. And we lost do to our defensive coach sold us out for a job he didn't get cause we all know at the beginning of the season he was leaving and was eyeing the Hawks for his new job . Didn't get cause they saw how he gave this game away and how he tried to give away the game against the lions along with the refs
@@laquanwilson9646....your right, because Dak is GREAT in garbage time, and loves to pad his stats
Both guys have had elite OLines, running games, and receiving (Dez, Amari, and CeeDee vs AJ and Devonta)....Dak has been in the league twice as long and accomplished half as much.
@@laquanwilson9646Lol I love how you just tried to hype up Empty Calorie Dak 😂 You cowboy fans really are the morons of the league and deserve the ridicule for sure
She also said stats don’t tell the whole story lol
@@laquanwilson9646 same with jalen in 2022, they literally had opposite seasons the past two years it’s just recency bias
So Jalen didn’t lose to baker last year after a 10-1 start 😂😂😂😂
Uh, he wasn't the rzn they lost genius lol
so Dak didnt make history and wet the bed against the packers a 6th seed by a rookie ? lmaooo
@@neetrab cap cause he got “hurt” then they started blaming the defense, move along smart guy
@@ashtontreadway7435 Y'all casuals just need to stay off RUclips. Hurts had some of the worst coordinators in the league.
And Dak wasn't hurt you dingus. He got annihilated by the Packers
@@maskedman5657 excuses, I don’t wanna hear that stuff
Phillys defense was more of the success to their Super Bowl run than Jalen hurts. James jones was spot on with everything he, shady and joy of course gonna tag team with each other when it comes to Jalen hurts. Acho jus be saying be stuff
What about the superbowl stats don’t forget that and by the way Patrick mahomes had only 195 yards passing in the superbowl and won stop with all the hate bro stand on facts and hurts has had a different play caller every year come on man
Maybe if Purdy didn't get hurt. I'm just saying. 😮😮
So basically they cant name a single thing hurts does better and dont mention how he was terrible this year and in the playoffs😂😂😂
Yea cause daks 4 ints 2 being pick 6s were so much better...both first round bounces so im confused on how your tryin to prop dak up wen he took an L as well...hurts has one bad turnover year nd o how quick u guys forgot dak lead the league 2 years ago..while missing 5 games 😂..dak has had multiple season throwin double digit picks...but its hurts who is the turnover machine...hurts plays for the dream team yet they gave a losing record without him while the cowboys having a winning record without dak...hurts has a 68% win percentage over .500 teams dak is at 52%...last year jalen had the best qbr in the league wen trailing literally ranked #1....dak had the worst😂...dont believe me go look it up...he has a few things over him...like actual success in the playoffs
@@joemclenigan6026 dak had 2 picks and one was a pick 6 idiot
It's funny that they keep trying to compare an 9 year vet with a 4 year guy who's showed up in the Playoffs and SuperBowl and has had multiple Offensive Coordinators since becoming the starter 🦅🦅🦅🦅
Hurts team carries him, wait to Kellen calls plays.
Hurts is a 5th yr dak going in his 9th yr
What kills me is we’re talking about who we would take when Jalen Hurts offense changes every year let’s see hurts with the same coordinator for more then one year then we can judge these quarterbacks be in the same system all these years and we compare them to Jalen…he’s won despite the hurdles
The one time we saw him in the same offense for two years was in his MVP runner up season where they got to the superbowl.
Its funny how No one has mentioned this.
Dak has had different playcallers throughout his career and balled out with each one. So, who’s really better?
@@22savagetv boy u goofy he’s been in the league 8 years bro Jalen 4
@@22savagetvwhen because Moore first season without dak was last season which was 2019. Jalen was still in college
No way I’m taking Dak over Hurts . He shows up in big games
You serious think hurts can win without read option or buttpush ?…
Also Jalen has won college championships and been in championship games
@@RellxVicious does that even matter? or are you just a hater?
If You Take Hurts Over Dak You On Drugs😂😂💀
@@RellxVicious you dak fans are hilarious.
Dak is a better football player
If Cam Newton really said that he is CRAZY.
Not crazy at all. This really isn’t a hot take lol
Not crazy at all
If his name aint Joe Cool, Pat, or Lamar then it doesn't matter. Those are the elite QBs. Everyone else is average or below average. End of story.