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great vid! for me Guthries explanation in one of his clinics really changed how i approached the instrument. "Are you playing what you're singing or singing what you're playing". Most songwriters like Clapton, Gilmour, Knopfler or Mayer tend to be more expressive with the guitar because they ARE actually playing what they're singing in their head. So i guess when you start recognizing those intervals you sing, on your fretboard, it's a real game changer. Even humming a simple melody and then trying to piece it together on the fretboard goes a long way. Thx for the upload!
JACK, i have been in need of this lesson for over 4 years. I am a pentatonic box and 3NPS warriror and i just didn't know how to get out of it. None of my guitar teachers ever told me that the perfect 5 interval doesn't really contain harmonic information. The sauce is made by root third and seventh! I am definetily buying your one chord improvisation lesson!!! You are literally my guitar saviour. Thanks dearly :)
This video made me all warm and fuzzy inside! Love it and you dude!
Haha! All the love back mate! ❤️
Tom, your video on harnessing the potential of the diminished scale, ‘...THE sound of fusion’, it was such a moment in my musical learning.
Tom is FN Brilliant
Same ! 😆
Is this ‘the’ tom quayle...ie the dawsons music guy? 😂
Mate this was very very helpful 👍🏻 After 30 years of playing by ear pretty well, I've just realised what I need to learn. I really can't thank you enough mate. Epiphany ain't in it...joy 😊
Some years ago I randomly caught Tom Q. playing via some RUclips vid & immediately being transfixed not only by how many different styles he was able to play, improvise & sound so well with, but above all the control he displayed with the instrument was mesmerizing! I knew then that I needed to seriously re-examine my technique. Something I had long thought I already had mostly in the bag for what I was looking to accomplish musically. It was quite a wake up call imo and I’m so glad I was exposed to his monster talent. If I could pick any guitarist to directly learn from and be taught by it would have to be Quayle!
Coming back to this video two years after seeing it and I have so much of a better understanding of everything you are talking about. You've really jammed a ton of topics and knowledge into this video. It's kind of a masterclass in a way with enough things to work on for years. Thank you!
Can’t believe I’m still discovering great teachers here on RUclips thought I found them all .. SUBBED!
Tom is frightening and so are you Jack! Learning a lot from you lately!
Thank you for posting videos like this, I watch things like this on my way to and from work and during my breaks to learn theory because if I'm lucky I only get about 2 hours of actual practice a day at home
I stumbled across gold😭 This is quite literally a life changing moment. Thank you so much
After 23 years of rambling and meandering, which included 10 years of just mechanical training with no real direction or focus, am finally coming to start studying them standards. Dear Jack, your lesson is an ear opener and a whole new way of understanding intervals. Thank you so much. You have an incredible way of teaching and should continue to enlighten us more. Thank you so much again :)
I've watched Tom's lesson a few years back and it was life changing.. 🤘
Ilia Tilev Can’t agree more! Me too. 🤘🏻
Wow. Recently discovered you when I was researching the Strandberg.
Just three weeks ago I started counting the notes of the pentatonic licks and runs that I do on auto pilot from muscle memory.
The reason I started counting the intervals was to better understand why some things naturally sound good against the One while other things sound good against the four.
I was trying to get out of the box and start hunting for third because I know already that the third gives a chord it's flavor and mood.
Rick Beatos ear training uses the same sort of player that this toned ear site uses. I know because I bought and enrolled in Rick's course because I too am a fan. Now I will use the toned ear to help me train daily for Rick's tests. Just now I went to the site and ran a quiz. First time ever using it and I answered 64 out of 73 correctly for an 87 percent. That's because I Rick beato is training me to hear intervals.
The way I train in Rick's program is I put the guitar in my hand and listen to the interval question on Rick's site. Then I find the notes on my guitar to help my make sense of what I'm hearing. Next I sing the individual notes that make up the interval on my guitar in order to make a strong internal connection to the tones. Then I answer the interval question. This method has without a doubt improved my improvising and understanding of intervals.
I use the cage system to map the one third and fifth of the cord, that way if I'm up the neck in bar two of a 12 bar blues I know I'm on the one and headed for the four that is right next to that third. The cord map of triads usually puts the third on the next string down from the one and the fifth is usually up above the one.
Thinking in this interval fashion is changing my whole approach to playing guitar.
Sorry for the ramble bro, just trying to make sense of this stuff. Started listening to you music. That's deep stuff. I'm a new fan.
Cheers Mate
This is one of my all time most influential lessons. This is well laid out, well taught, but has core knowledge of intervals and 7th chords that is indispensable. I must sound like an advertisement. No, just a guy that was ready for this kind of voicing stuff, and I appreciate the professionalism that went into it. You can teach, Jack. You made a great lesson plan and presented it perfectly for the interval impaired like me.
This is one of the few longer lesson videos that I watched in entirety. Not to mention I’m watching it while at work, lol. Very cool information, and I’m looking forward to getting home later and playing around with it. Thanks, Jack!
Learning intervals is great, but what really opened up my fingerboard knowledge (on the bass) are tetrachords. Just by mastering 4 tetrachords (on one string initially, then across two strings), you can easily combine them to construct any flavor scale up and down the FB. Those 4 tetrachords are: major, minor, phrygian and whole-tone.
Any links to good reading about what you're speaking of? Cheers
@@fraserwing8744 Tetra-chords have 3 components, expressed in semitones. An Upper chord, lower chord and a separator interval. So for Major it's 221(2) 221. I learnt about it from 'Fundamentals of Modern Harmony' by Dick Grove. 1977 (217 pages)
So pithy, I could sense the "are my listeners going to understand this" moments and glad you went into it all. Thanks
The delivery of your approach is good, bro, it took me a long time to get lost on the fingerboard. hehee... thanks bro. nice to meet me

Been playing guitar for 10 years and been stuck in pentatonic scale for the same amount of time. Lately I started relearning guitar and unconsciously started visualizing intervals without knowing it was an actual thing. I feel great to know I'm heading in the right direction. Great video!
Man you're teaching skills is awesome... You're genius 👍🏻
I learned the 5 shapes of the major scale when I started.. but my guitar teacher told me to say the number of each scale degree as I played up and down the scale and to sing them.. This taught me the intervals as well as their sound in relation to the root.
In my music journey, I became interested in intervals and it hit me like this. Play a simple melody. Play it again 1 fret up. Chances are none of the notes are the same however the melody is still recognizable. The absolute pitch of the note is not important here (what was a C is a C#) but the melody being recognizable means these different notes are the same relatively to the other notes of the simple melody. New pitch, same job. Intervals is the word to describe the role of a note relatively to the rest of what is being played.
What I try to do is hum melodies by saying the role of the notes at a chosen pitch rather than singing the note itself at its pitch if that makes sense. Try it with happy birthday!
food for thought, thanks alot, nice job brother
Really useful but also tangible concepts to work on here. Great teaching style. Thanks Jack
One of the best lessons I've ever seen. Thank you.
18:30 great stuff starts here. Really useful.
i like to think this way
modern instruments are designed specifically for the equal temperament system, so we dont need to overthink the notes, they are all there in the scale, also alphabet letters are supposed to give us a numerical visualization of the notes, but intervals is how living beings perceive sound, in brazil we use the solfege system for that very reason, dó re mi is more singable than ABC whe all syllables end with "yee" sound
Clear and concise. I can finally work to brake free from the box shapes. Great vid and subbed thanks jack
Excellent tutorial
Wow better player as a teenager than I’ll ever be!
I’ve just reached the point in my understanding where I figured out last night to play the same interval scale from any root note (B string is no big deal, just bump it up) and even sing along, so this video makes sense to me. I knew I wanted to start getting more intervalic, skipping strings and such, but I didn’t think of focusing on the 3rd and 7th. I don’t play blues or jazz so I am not sure I always want to do that-unless I’m going for a Nuno sound maybe-but maybe it is more important than I thought, so I will definitely remember this tip.
Coincidentally, last night I also expanded my understanding of Mixolydian. The popularity of Pentatonic scales has long vexed me because I think it sounds boring and prefer to use the whole scale when making melodies. Then I looked at Lydian and Mixolydian and found that they alter the 4th and 7th, the same two notes cut out of Pentatonic...so I wonder if Pentatonic was made popular to make it compatible with those modes (for beginners)...
This is solid gold right here folks
Listen to this man, If you totally have had to teach yourself guitar, which I did and pre...technology (I began in 1999), if you have no resources or humans, this is how you teach yourself, somewhat intuitively, although it is something you're searching for, that you don't know about until you find it. When you only can listen to music, and very manually (tape, cd) and have to find sounds, usually you'll pick out bass, root notes out easily, but then you have to learn your ear, and learn singing voice tones, seperate melody notes, harmonize and find ways to get there. Basically it's deconstructing and understanding what notes are where and why, etc, then constructing them and using them. That's my long way around, but you never forget when you do this. Love your approach, brother.
Epic lesson and very helpful. This is what I needed 30 years ago when I started playing and you shred by the way. Thank you!
How many people think ear training works? Writing this note to recommend rick beato just as he is mentioned in this video. Good to see pythagoras mentioned here as well. It's amazing how he worked out so much musically so long ago.
Thanks Jack, I've been working on learning my intervals after seeing you and another jazz player recommending it and I'm still at the beginning but I have to say it makes so much more sense now to me than going by any shape system.
This is THE approach! Patterns are such a hindrance.. Time with the instrument and knowing how the music you are playing/want to play "works" is what gets you there. Your playing is lovely, Jack. Great phrasing and especially expression, bends and vibrato are luscious. I think you are on a very similar level to Tom Quayle, I prefer your phrasing :)
This really helped. Thank you
Absolutely spectacular, Jack. Thanks so much for sharing this.
Thanks for sharing Jack that was really useful information
Very helpful insight and details man! Thank you! Also wanted to say I can see your passion and joy for music as you speak on all this and it’s awesome. 👍🏽🤘🏽😊
i have a new appreciation for blues and tryin to play little notes as pos will all the feelin
I've watched this video a couple times and I'm thinking this could be the way for me. Thank you , Jack. I'm going for your course on Musicisum.
Love this thinking! Not just "playing guitar" but playing music on the guitar :)
Woah man.. watching this has changed the way I see the fretboard, i'm definitely going to be focusing on those big juicy harmonic notes. Thank you so much for making this video :)
You seriously helped so many with this video, my man. Thank you!
Just blowned away by this approach! Gob bless you man!
I've been working on memorizing all the notes and intervals for a while. It's so absolutely difficult! I use a program that tests me at a tempo with note to fret and vis-versa. Sight reading chords can be a nightmare, but the more you do it while learning the neck the easier it gets. I want to get to the point where I can just do it quickly in any position that works with what I see or hear. It's a daily battle! Knowing the intervals is absolutely essential for that. More people should emphasize them, it's what the majority of musicians learn to do when they start, except for guitarists infamously. Your video is a really comprehensive lesson on them! I subbed to you, look forward to more!
Mind sharing the program you use to practice?
@@cyan_2169 Oh yeah of course, it's called Absolute Fretboard Trainer - Pretty straight forward title, huh? The website is absolutefretboard (dot) com. I came by the full version from other sources than the official website since they charge for it... But from using it, it's worth it to buy it. I consider this, iReal Pro, and guitar pro the three best ways I've found in my exploring to study guitar with software. There are apps that do sort of similar things to AFT, with fewer options, also.
I’m starting to see it...about to dig through your channel for more! New fan here man, great stuff.
What an incredible video, essential viewing for any musician
Amazing dude. Also love the quality of the video!
Cool lesson, it seems that great guitar players always spin towards others even if they are not as well known, thanks for the video!
Something off topic, you look like a Ryan Gosling that played guitar instead of acting and became a metalhead!
Wow man that was amazing
Wow. I needed this so bad. I happened upon your channel when investigating the Neural DSP plugins. Thanks for the insight and education!. I have been stuck!!! I can play fast and accurate but was stuck in a cage with three notes per string.
Loving your videos Jack your patient explanations really are landing thank you
Brilliant. Thanks buddy. 👍🏻
Thank you so much for this vídeo.
If we would be so lucky, it would be great for the next video to expand on how you do this, and how to practice (for beginners) . I have started by learning the octaves on the fretboard, then adding the third to each octave, then mixing it all up so it's usable memory not muscle memory. Then from here adding the 5th, 7th and plan to carry on with this until all intervals are covered. I'm doing it with a different root each day, again so it's mental and not muscle memory.
I have no idea if this is the right way to do it, because now all of my intervals are based on having a finger on a root. I came across a downfall of this today, I was lost when I was playing a chord without a root (bass player plays route scenario) and I didn't know any of the intervals in the chord :-/
Hey bro, what i am doing right now is learning where the 1st 3rd and 5th 7th notes of chords on a scale are on each pentatonic box, then i solo over backing tracks to practice. So the benefits of this is that is easier to apply, and it works for every key. Im planning to also learning 2nd 4th and 6th. Hope its usefull good luck
Just getting into your vids Jack and I'm really loving them.
Excellent lesson, very informative. Will definitely be putting these into practice. You sir have earned yourself a subscribe. Thank you!
Fire up that BE back there !!
Thanks Bud!!! Very well explained, great job!
This is amazing, I some how stumbled on Tom’s playing from listening to the Podcast guitar hour. Both he and yourself are incredible talents keep up the good work ✌🏾
This is a great lesson man! Thank you, been playing for years and just now got into theory.
Brilliant lesson, thank you!
Thank you!
So, just a quick note on CAGED. The shape you played out was supposed to correspond with C and I don't think it did. That aside, I really like that system, but I didn't always. The convenient thing about CAGED is you only have 5 shapes to work with. When I set out to better understand intervals and their relation to the guitar neck, I quickly realized that trying to learn interval relationships across each mode and then learning them with each 3 notes per string shape would be a monumental task.
I think the level 1 idea of CAGED is to develop a mind map of the shapes using basic chord shapes we are all familiar with. But, this can later help build other chords and their inversions as well as increase your knowledge of the fretboard. I dismissed this method for years in favor of 3nps until I watched a few of Martin Miller's discussions on it and how he practiced using arpeggios within these 5 shapes. Now, I'm learning to build my own chords and I can visualize basic arpeggios within one CAGED shape. If i'm looking at the "A shape" in the key of C major, I also see the arpeggios for D minor, E minor, F major, G major and so on. I can also quickly identify the relationship of the intervals to the "mode" i'm in.
I believe that any method of mapping is fine, but I think guitarists have grown into this habit of relating shapes to modes without ever learning to figure out where root, 3rd and 5th are for any given chord in a key. A lot of guitarists can play in key, but I don't see the average guy staying in the pocket while they improvise. We have it easier than other musicians. We don't have to think about the construction of a scale like a piano or trumpet player would. We learn a shape, and then we can just move the same shape around. I think this ease has made a generation of us complacent in their music theory.
All this is to say that maybe the trouble some of your students had wasn't the system. It sounds like they only had part of the equation.
Great Video Bro
So helpful! Thank you so much brother!!!
You sing just like Ian Anderson!
sweet. thanks man
Thanks, good explaining, good examples
Every dominant 7th chord is a '5' chord harmonized out of his major scale.
So A7 is the 5 chord of the key of Dmajor, D7 is in the key of Gmajor and E7 in the key of Amajor.
So in a blues progression using dominant 7th chords every time they change chords they actually change the key.
This is something i learned from Robben Fords lessons this week.
Using the mixolydianscale is actually kinda smart to point out the 3th and the 7th note, Tnx for this important lesson. :)
Not really, a 7th chord could come from other scales than the major scale.
Say you play a tune in C major and at some point there is an E7 chord (very common) that E7 is the 5 of Am so it comes from the A harmonic minor scale.
@@xdarky20x In Cmajor Its Em7 not E7. You are talking about a minor7 chord. A dominant 7th chord is a major chord with a minor 7th. And also if you play in the Aminor key it has all the same notes as the Cmajor scale. Cmajor is the relative major of Aminor.
Really enjoyed your video and thought you did a great job explaining things!
Very cool. That made me think very differently
THIS! Great!
@18:00 I hated math and real jobs and joined a band and yet I still played his game...
This is brilliant :D! I think Matt Schofield uses alot of mixolydian in his blues solo's.
Awesome Lesson!!
great presentation and explanation.
Oooo, this guy is goooood. Subscribed!
Thanks for vesalisation guitar fretboard see you later on next
lesson .❤😂🎉😢😅
Thanks for this Jack
👍. in the blues example, you end up renumbering notes for every chord. Why do this rather than staying with the A major scale numbering throughout and including the b3, b5 and b7 then learning the appropriate arpeggio numbering for each chord? Using Mixolydian of the one chord seems to exclude the use of the b3 and b5 notes too. I haven’t done a thorough check, but doing it over the four and five chords might hide important blues notes there too.
Hey, that was nice picture of you all Rick , Jack and Tom. So my guess I was right , you all come from the same source
I owe pretty much everything to Tom and Rick haha! They’re the best!
Nice lesson
Very very cool, Thank you!
What's the Tom Quayle video you clip from at 7:29? Awesome lines and phrasing there! I'd love to see/hear the whole thing.
I like your videos!
Still, I keep thinking I'm looking at Sardo Numspa from the Golden Child...
Would it be wrong to think D Major scale would actually spell out an A7 chord since A is the 5th (Mixolydian) of D Major?
Adam Neely also has a lesson that explains indirectly why the fifth wasn't needed as mentioned in this video for those who wanted a more "sound engineering" approach explanation. It was a reply to a question regarding power chords. This is a fantastic lesson for me, its like a key to link chords to arpeggios and modes which i can't seem to wrap my head around. Thanks so much.
Thank you for this one
Just discovered Tom Quayle. Thank you for explaining Tom's tuning of the B and high E strings. Someone called music the sound of mathematics.
Music to my ears. I have always cursed ' Guido Arizo' ( if that was his name) for over complicating and coding musical nomenclature. This demystifies and democratises music again and reestablishes the simple maths that Pythagoras had discovered.
Theory elitists like Rick Beato take delight in muddying the waters and removing immediacy and joyful creativity from the process. This is a much better recipe. Thanks Jack!
Great video! Happy to come across your channel and have just subscribed too.
Subscribed this is an outstanding video
Great insight. Check out Carl Verheyan as well.
Yes, but where is the Ebm Maj7 b9 shape?
My jaw is still on the floor after hearing Tom Quayle.
Insightful stuff
Am I the only one wondering on what kind of drugs was Pythagoras on??? How the hell did he know so many things? Is he a time traveler??
i heard the ancient greeks did know about psychedelics
Lol cool drugs eh 😂