Victor Davis Hanson on Immigration

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  • Опубликовано: 27 дек 2024

Комментарии • 223

  • @mabelheinzle2275
    @mabelheinzle2275 5 месяцев назад +31

    VDH - wise and courageous

    • @EducatingForLiberty
      @EducatingForLiberty  5 месяцев назад +5

      Isn't he the best? What should we have him talk about next?

    • @AlexanderLittlebears
      @AlexanderLittlebears 5 месяцев назад

      He still wants legal White replacement, not much better than an illegal one.

    • @notoglobalism3754
      @notoglobalism3754 5 месяцев назад

      @@EducatingForLiberty Let's see if Victor Davis Hanson will talk about the Catholic Church and the #UnitedNations being #WEFpuppets doing the ground work to promote chaos in other nations in order to flush CITIZENS out of OUR HOMELANDS, and then recruit #ArmiesOfMigrants aimed to destroy the USA.

    • @notoglobalism3754
      @notoglobalism3754 5 месяцев назад

      @@EducatingForLiberty STOP the EVIL #UnitedNations' #ForcedMigrations!
      Peoples have the #HumanRight to STAY IN OUR HOMELANDS!
      #BuildTheWall, Americans.
      #BuildThatWall!!!

  • @PecosChico
    @PecosChico 5 месяцев назад +122

    Cheap lettuce is not worth overpriced healthcare.

    • @getlost3346
      @getlost3346 5 месяцев назад

      Poor health due to diabetes comes from high level of fruit and vegetable imports from Latin American 12 months a year. It's unnatural to eat that much carbs and suger 12 months a year. In the past it was limited to seasonal fruits and vegetables from domestic farmers. No wonder we are discovery a healthier carnivore diet.

    • @MichaelM-q2q
      @MichaelM-q2q 5 месяцев назад +3

      Or nonexistent health-care

    • @sflasaint811
      @sflasaint811 4 месяца назад +4

      It’s not even cheap anymore.

    • @shaunwells5015
      @shaunwells5015 4 месяца назад +1

      @@jamesswing2115 lettuce kind of sucks to begin with.

    • @thunkjunk
      @thunkjunk 4 месяца назад

      Almost $4 for a bag to make salad. Almost $2.50 for some celery. Oranges are about $2.50/lb as well. Oranges. I live in SCal and still vegies are seriously expensive.

  • @getlost3346
    @getlost3346 5 месяцев назад +76

    It should be noted we had closed borders from 1920 to 1965 with limited legal immigration, yet we still had food/home price stability.

    • @fred-b9v2d
      @fred-b9v2d 5 месяцев назад

      Joe.broke article four of constitution impeachment vote should happen and a no confidence vote for kamala

    • @jameseverett4976
      @jameseverett4976 5 месяцев назад

      whoah! Hold on there! Can't bring facts into the picture to show how we have deliberately created a crisis of victimhood which produces more excuses to claim whitey is "way cist."
      Only in modern social justice America can someone from another country force their way illegally into a situation they can then claim to be a poor oppressed victim of. And at the same time, refuse to leave the position of supposed victimhood, while garning endless sympathy and finally, resources from the country being acused of victimizing them, which are above and beyond what even legal citizens of that country are entitled to. But still a victim, nevertheless.

    • @franand
      @franand 4 месяца назад +1

      Tell that to people in the great depression lmao

    • @getlost3346
      @getlost3346 4 месяца назад +3

      @@franand Yes great depression was bad, but NOT for the other 80%. Life went on. It wasn't a wide spread collapse of society.

    • @tdg1945
      @tdg1945 Месяц назад

      ​@@franandclosed borders had no contributing factors to the Great Depression.

  • @susanh326
    @susanh326 5 месяцев назад +49

    Yes, indeed, an unlicensed driver using an uninsured car, not owned by himself, transporting illegal immigrants, criminal background, are protected by law. Law abiding, tax paying US citizens thrown under the bus.

  • @glennhopkins2643
    @glennhopkins2643 5 месяцев назад +75

    CLOSE THE BORDER NOW !!! Why is this not being done ?

    • @ozzieluvaya2202
      @ozzieluvaya2202 5 месяцев назад

      Future votes for Democrats

    • @JeeeeeZ289
      @JeeeeeZ289 5 месяцев назад

      The j3ws won’t allow it

    • @sflasaint811
      @sflasaint811 4 месяца назад

      They want them open for cheap labor and new voters.

    • @sanniepstein4835
      @sanniepstein4835 Месяц назад

      The USA is run by traitors, crooks owned by hostile forces.

  • @brendawerner5425
    @brendawerner5425 5 месяцев назад +28

    Cut the benefits. Some of these guys are colecting benefits for the family here and sending cash to the family in Mexico

    • @EducatingForLiberty
      @EducatingForLiberty  5 месяцев назад

      That's troubling. Have you heard of any stories of immigrants doing that?

    • @crimesguy
      @crimesguy 5 месяцев назад +3

      Our unique “anchor baby” system only worsens and encourages this unfortunately. Remittance payments is also a huge issue. Money that’s sent out of the country subsidizes the economies of other countries. He talks about this around 12 mins in

    • @TheBreakdownWithBrady
      @TheBreakdownWithBrady 3 месяца назад

      @@EducatingForLibertyNew York, and California are the 2 states currently That I know of. (1100 and 1300 monthly ) Another thing is they can also use taxpayer funded health insurance to get on hormone therapy, and all that connected to that. Since in those 2 states -that’s healthcare- and therefore provided to illegal migrants for free.

  • @bibleblessingsministries2964
    @bibleblessingsministries2964 5 месяцев назад +22

    You don't have go into someones residence to deport them. If they are illigal just make it so they cannot get a drivers licence, a mortgage, insurance, healthcare ect. and they will go home voluntarily.
    😊

    • @NEMO-NEMO
      @NEMO-NEMO 5 месяцев назад +7

      @bible
      HR departments need to make sure I-9s are legit this specially goes for restaurants, hotels, cleaning services, care takers, hospitals, landscapers, any food services, I can go on and on.
      Any establishment or business owner caught giving work to illegal immigrants should be heavily fined.

    • @jameseverett4976
      @jameseverett4976 5 месяцев назад

      no can do as long as democrats are around to sabotage any effort to do so.

  • @williamlapenna3443
    @williamlapenna3443 5 месяцев назад +32

    Complex issue! First order - close the boarder!! (put the wall up)

    • @SandyR145
      @SandyR145 5 месяцев назад +3

      Our nation is flying them in and has been for many months.

    • @andyrme2
      @andyrme2 5 месяцев назад

      @@SandyR145 bad idea

    • @susanbradshaw339
      @susanbradshaw339 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@SandyR145 and the sex trafficked kids put on planes told to be silent the pilot as well.
      HARRIS( border czar for years) is busy fighting for the unborn abortion babies.Her silence on the
      Sex-trafficked ones brought over the border
      Signifies not only complacency but a major contributor.

  • @susanh326
    @susanh326 5 месяцев назад +29

    Sanction and or tax the illegal employers who pay cash to illegal immigrants.

    • @skrome1953
      @skrome1953 5 месяцев назад

      Agreed and penalize the home owners and corporate apartment owners that rent to illegals but first we'll need I'd that can't be counterfeited. counterfeited

    • @vram5717
      @vram5717 4 месяца назад

      That would include VDH who as a grape rancher has hired illegals in the past

    • @I.L-b1o
      @I.L-b1o 3 месяца назад

      @@skrome1953Landlords in CA are not even allowed to ask immigration or citizenship status.

  • @theidahospud
    @theidahospud 5 месяцев назад +14

    Mr. Hanson, what a brilliant man! Why can't we get a man or woman to become the leader of the USA like him. Sadly, we have idiots (Both party's) that are running our country into the ground. I follow his many comments on a variety of issues and each one is based on common sense and a view of these facts as they really are. When Trump regains the presidency, it would be an advantage to his administration if he would give Mr. Hanson a high position in his cabinet.

  • @bernadettesheehy5463
    @bernadettesheehy5463 2 месяца назад +1

    I really love listening to VDH ...from Ireland. I have learned so much and know I will get a balanced insighful account.

  • @kendobos6289
    @kendobos6289 5 месяцев назад +40

    VDH is a genious. I hope he is an advisor to Trump 2024.

    • @HBS82
      @HBS82 5 месяцев назад +4

      I agree - and hopefully Trump and his team will LISTEN...

    • @EducatingForLiberty
      @EducatingForLiberty  5 месяцев назад +3

      We hope so too. What cabinet position would you put him in?

  • @LarryBuehlman
    @LarryBuehlman 5 месяцев назад +11

    Yes you've let them in, but have you adopted them? Yes they're in, but have they adopted you? My answer to both questions is "no."

  • @pinchebruha405
    @pinchebruha405 5 месяцев назад +23

    2024 Los Angeles is a third world country no tax revenue coming in for the reasons he states about Fresno!

  • @Mari-s3i
    @Mari-s3i 5 месяцев назад +30

    Love this guy. We need to understand time line. Looks like it was many years ago

    • @susanh326
      @susanh326 5 месяцев назад +4

      Yes. I agree. I see many videos on this platform that are repurposed - aged but posted as "one month ago". In any event, I've been VHD student and appreciate that this platform still allows him to speak.

    • @primrose3524
      @primrose3524 4 месяца назад +1

      I’m guessing this is vintage 2014, but the topic is still very relevant and expands our understanding.

    • @primrose3524
      @primrose3524 4 месяца назад +1

      I wish they would post the original date of the video in all of these videos. Must have something to do with RUclips, what I don’t know,but almost never do we get the original time stamp.

    • @michaelbellingham719
      @michaelbellingham719 Месяц назад

      Victor Davis Hanson has made a series of claims about immigration that critics argue are misleading, alarmist, and rooted in exaggerated fears rather than objective facts. Here are some of the key themes in Hanson’s statements and how they have been challenged:
      Immigrants as a Burden on Social Systems: Hanson often portrays immigrants as a strain on welfare systems, implying that they take more than they contribute. However, studies consistently show that immigrants contribute more in taxes than they use in public benefits over the long term. Many economists argue that immigrants play essential roles in sectors like agriculture, construction, and healthcare, supporting economic growth rather than draining resources.
      "Cultural Decline" Due to Multiculturalism: Hanson frequently blames multiculturalism for eroding "Western values" and has suggested that immigrants don’t assimilate. This argument is criticized for lacking evidence, as data indicates that immigrants in the U.S. generally adopt English and American cultural norms over time. Scholars argue that Hanson’s framing misrepresents the multicultural fabric of the U.S. and ignores the positive cultural contributions immigrants make.
      Framing Immigration as a "Threat" to National Identity: Hanson warns of an “invasion” of immigrants that could undermine American identity, using language that is often associated with far-right nationalist movements. This rhetoric is widely criticized for stoking unnecessary fear and dividing communities, especially as there is no concrete evidence to support claims that immigration inherently threatens national security or identity.
      Blaming "Sanctuary Cities" for Crime: Hanson has suggested that sanctuary cities, which limit cooperation with federal immigration enforcement, foster lawlessness and higher crime rates. Studies have debunked this claim, showing that sanctuary cities often have lower crime rates compared to non-sanctuary cities. By linking immigrants to criminality without data support, Hanson reinforces harmful stereotypes.
      Claiming That Open Borders Benefit Elites Only: Hanson often argues that "open borders" serve the interests of wealthy elites who exploit cheap labor while regular citizens bear the costs. This narrative is seen as misleading, as most immigrants enter the U.S. legally, and there are numerous regulations already in place that govern immigration and labor standards.
      Portraying Immigrants as Unwilling to Assimilate: Hanson suggests immigrants resist assimilation, preserving foreign customs at the expense of “American culture.” This misrepresents the reality that immigrants, over generations, tend to adopt American values, language, and traditions. Research consistently shows high rates of assimilation among immigrant families in the U.S., contradicting Hanson’s assertions.
      Hanson’s views on immigration have been heavily criticized for using fear-based rhetoric that aligns more with far-right nationalist perspectives than with objective scholarship. Critics argue that his statements lack grounding in data and serve to push a divisive agenda rather than provide factual insights into immigration issues.
      Sources:
      Hoover Institution, "The Civic Cost of Illegal Immigration" (Criticism of Hansen's rhetoric on social strain and multiculturalism)
      New Criterion and additional coverage of Hanson’s work on immigration

  • @timchapman5567
    @timchapman5567 5 месяцев назад +13

    Non-Marxist Americans (surely the majority still?) must hope the still indefatigable VDH can keep his energetic, informed defence of liberal democracy going for many more years.

  • @edwardb7811
    @edwardb7811 5 месяцев назад +4

    This is a contribution to a discussion on immigration.

    • @EducatingForLiberty
      @EducatingForLiberty  5 месяцев назад

      Are there any other topics you would like us to discuss?

  • @rgflint
    @rgflint 4 месяца назад +5

    Hanson has such a great command of statistics about immigration it is mind-boggling. And he makes his arguments so calmly and cogently, it is impressive. Great job Dr. Hanson!

    • @michaelbellingham719
      @michaelbellingham719 Месяц назад

      Victor Davis Hanson is a divisive figure, especially among legitimate historians, many of whom see him as a conservative provocateur who’s abandoned serious scholarship for partisan commentary. Originally recognized for his expertise in classical history, Hanson has since morphed into a Trump loyalist and far-right propagandist, using his historical knowledge to justify deeply reactionary views. Historians who once respected his work on Greek history and warfare now view his shift into political punditry as a serious compromise of intellectual integrity.
      Here's what Hanson does that has led many historians to consider him intellectually dishonest:
      Politicizing History to Serve a Far-Right Agenda:
      Hanson has twisted historical analogies to fit a hardline nationalist agenda, often drawing flimsy comparisons between ancient societies and modern America in ways that exaggerate threats to “Western civilization.” His narratives consistently present progressive values as corrupting forces, reminiscent of far-right figures who cherry-pick history to prop up authoritarian ideas.
      Promoting Alarmist and Divisive Rhetoric:
      Instead of providing balanced historical analysis, Hanson paints a picture of cultural apocalypse, depicting liberals, immigrants, and “elites” as existential threats to American values. His commentary borders on conspiracy theory, with critics accusing him of stoking paranoia rather than contributing meaningful insights. Scholars see this as manipulative fearmongering rather than legitimate historical interpretation.
      Hypocrisy and Elitism:
      Hanson rails against “elites” and portrays himself as a defender of the “common man,” but he’s as embedded in elite circles as anyone. He’s leveraged his academic background to gain credibility in conservative media while ignoring actual evidence or balanced analysis. This hypocrisy has drawn criticism from historians who see his "anti-elite" posturing as both opportunistic and dishonest.
      Selling Out Scholarship for Partisan Influence:
      Historians who once respected Hanson’s scholarship now see him as a figure who has sold out to become a mouthpiece for far-right ideology. His unchecked support of Trump and attacks on “liberal intellectuals” have led many in the academic world to view him as little more than a propagandist hiding behind a façade of scholarship.
      Hanson’s transformation from a respected classicist to a far-right ideologue exemplifies the dangers of intellectual dishonesty in academia. He’s using his knowledge to validate partisan extremism rather than seeking truth, making him a polarizing figure who’s viewed with contempt by mainstream historians.

  • @Jeffrey-t8g
    @Jeffrey-t8g 5 месяцев назад +9

    The reason Americans don't do low wage back breaking work is it's sporadic, a lot of distance between jobs, the cost to live and HEALTHCARE, that illegal aliens get free. The prison populations are growing so utilize them for agriculture work.

  • @leanidvalasevich6991
    @leanidvalasevich6991 5 месяцев назад +6

    Do you keep door open in house and anyone can come in

  • @MD-mm1zv
    @MD-mm1zv 5 месяцев назад +7

    Professor Hanson doesn't believe illegal immigrants will be going home.
    That we don't have the will to get this done.
    Oh, yes we do.

    • @yolobuck2553
      @yolobuck2553 3 месяца назад

      Maybe now but 20 years ago it would have been inconceivable

  • @MichaelM-q2q
    @MichaelM-q2q 4 месяца назад +1

    I think about everything I've learned from the arts and found the biggest lie ever told. Once upon a time, in a land far, far away, they lived happily ever after. That's it. I love listening to Dr. Hanson. He makes sense in a crazy world.

  • @williamlapenna3443
    @williamlapenna3443 5 месяцев назад +11

    Put Victor in charge of anything and everything!!

    • @tony-gy2bq
      @tony-gy2bq 5 месяцев назад

      The guy started out his career advocating for mass amnesty. He has tuned it down and now just complains about illegal immigration without ever proposing a solution. I don't trust him !!!

  • @williamlapenna3443
    @williamlapenna3443 5 месяцев назад +6

    195 countries in the world and most have sent their people to USA - how many countries won’t take immigrants like we do? Or won’t take immigrants at all?

    • @TheGabriel12341
      @TheGabriel12341 5 месяцев назад +1

      Actually, the point is also that this a double sword: being a prosperous country makes immigrants came and settled and contribute and also makes this issue about massive migration and also using the system for Interests (something impossible in countries like Iran for example)

  • @marcdavenport8093
    @marcdavenport8093 5 месяцев назад +11

    Nice guys finish last. No more mister nice guy. Close the border now!

    • @jameseverett4976
      @jameseverett4976 5 месяцев назад

      Democrats won't, and conservatives don't have the spine, or the will to be called "way sist" for doing what needs doing.

  • @jacksonblaze423
    @jacksonblaze423 5 месяцев назад +4

    As legal immigrants we had to wait five years to be able to become citizens no very long ago. What is this 2-3 years? I also could not go back to my country because I would lose my chance to become a citizen. Why did my family have to go through this crap which almost destroyed it (I am not telling the full tragic story)?

  • @jaixzz
    @jaixzz 5 месяцев назад +5

    Its happening in Britain, Israel etc
    to the detriment of democracy...

    • @renacleerican7824
      @renacleerican7824 5 месяцев назад +2

      Israel is suffering from massive illegal immigration?
      I thought this country was pretty strict on immigration?
      You are 100% right for UK, and I add the whole Western Europe( France, Spain, Portugal, Italia,..).
      Here it is not mexicans, but millions of subsaharans.

    • @elvishiekios8826
      @elvishiekios8826 3 месяца назад

      France and Germany voted for parties that will close the borders to illegal muslim immigration

  • @kennethobrien8386
    @kennethobrien8386 5 месяцев назад +10

    Love VDH! What year is this?

  • @renebuesa554
    @renebuesa554 4 месяца назад +1

    Undoubtedly Victor Davis has dedicated decades analyzing the issue of illegal immigration into the U.S. After watching this highlight video, it led me to the realization that illegal immigration is much less about cheap labor, self-interest, and the profit motive and a lot more to do with both the ethical and behavioral consequences it implies. Victor Davis describes the very real social phenomenon where the "first generation" Mexican worker(s) 18-19 years old working construction and agriculture are some of the "hardest worker in the world." Victor Davis contrasts this fact to the normal and to be expected "aging process" that's taking place. He discusses how in the course of performing their jobs, illegal migrants are seen getting injured on the job, may gain weight, may become ill, but their respective employers "aren't obligated" to take care of them and subsequently become ward of the state. Victor Davis discusses the children of illegal migrants who have never been to Mexico, don't speak Spanish, and yet they haven't "been given the tools to compete in a very competitive America" become embittered when realizing the fate of their parents. Mr. Hanson views this reality as incorporating of "a cynicism involved about recycling human capital." Mr. Hanson taps into our American sense of conscience and accountability by stating "there's something going on ethically, psychologically, morally, or socially that says to Americans you don't have to do that type of work-somebody else will do that for you at a cheaper rate......there's been a difference in the attitude and respect for hard work." During the Q&A portion of the video Mr. Hanson retorts in response to illegal flow of migrant groups by stating that "while you see this as something that's logical and works for the economic benefit of the United States, other people would disagree with you because they would see entirely different results from it-in other words they would see a massive influx of people from Mexico, a constituency that would have historical grievances against the United States, might not assimilate, would have claims of a separate language, and would demand collective and group representation, i.e. they wouldn't want a different type of state." To my dismay this truthful and well understood statement by Mr. Hason was met by disbelieve when the other guess replied that most illegal Mexican migrants just want to work hard, provide for their families and get ahead. Now I know that this response does acknowledge the immediate concerns of illegal migrants, but we can't be entirely dismissive of the very real function and role that attitudes and opinions play in human future behavior. Just as well attitudes and opinions are always taught, they have universal implications across different groups of people, and always influences peoples' behaviors. A good analogy to illustrate the significance of taught attitudes and opinions would be to liken it to a recesive gene. Just like a recesive gene it isn't much of a concern to us nor does it threaten our lives so long as it remains dormant. However, as soon as it is activated it all of the sudden takes precedence, can change your life forever, and can even end your life prematurely. All human groups teach attitudes and opinions to their members and this fact inevitably influences their behavior towards other people. When and how people start behaving towards other people according to the attitudes and opinions they have been taught only depends on the moment they become activated at which time these attitudes and opinions take precedence. Long held grievances, territorial claims, group representation, claiming foreign language, not wanting to assimilate, etc., can all be viewed as attitudes and opinions that are taught and are just waiting to take precedence when we least expected. ReneB, Florida.

    • @LMTMarta
      @LMTMarta 4 месяца назад +1

      Fantastic
      I work in Bradenton
      I have to have a fucking translator to talk with my clients
      50fuckin percent don’t speak English
      And have no shame at all

    • @truther001
      @truther001 4 месяца назад

      He claims that no one works harder than illegal immigrants in construction but doesn't mention the FACT that they have no training. And he lives in California where houses are built to fall apart.

  • @Mari-s3i
    @Mari-s3i 5 месяцев назад +2

    What year was this made???

  • @joeymitchell5467
    @joeymitchell5467 4 месяца назад +2

    This country is fallen I'm grateful i'm 71 years old.It's going to get really bad sad

  • @calesmith3673
    @calesmith3673 5 месяцев назад +3

    Nice to VDH keep the debate based in facts and reality and not let his opponent drift into delusional fantasies of utopian immigration., the playground of intellectuals on this topic

  • @Michael-dr9wl
    @Michael-dr9wl 4 месяца назад +1

    Borders, language, Culture! The US is an Empire in Decline! Never to recover!

    • @elvishiekios8826
      @elvishiekios8826 3 месяца назад

      America is on a path to energy ideoendence, mars colonization, AI application and prosperity if borders are closed , energy independence is achieved, meritocracy is preserved, woke and EDI and transgenderism are defeated, abortions are allowed in each State as women want and Trump is elected president to implement all of them.

  • @bradbaker4679
    @bradbaker4679 4 месяца назад

    This man is brilliant!!!

  • @jeffpage1042
    @jeffpage1042 2 месяца назад +1

    Why can the immigrants not come to the US like they did in 1900-1914? Why should the immigrants of 2024 be treated better than the immigrant from Italy, Austro-Hungarian Empire in 1907??

  • @CVEIWKID
    @CVEIWKID 5 месяцев назад +6

    Day late dollar short

  • @judithdavies5653
    @judithdavies5653 5 месяцев назад +1

    Our job both as citizens and as bureaucrat protectors of a sovereign nation is to keep the sovereignty of that nation intact! I am sorry Dr.Hansen you have to deal with numbskulls. You a r e the best! ❤👍🇺🇲🙏

  • @jonathanblanchard6480
    @jonathanblanchard6480 5 месяцев назад +6

    His book should be called The Sophist...

  • @VictorDavisHanson-k1v
    @VictorDavisHanson-k1v 3 месяца назад

    good video

  • @TheWhitehiker
    @TheWhitehiker 5 месяцев назад

    Poor video quality--
    how come?

    • @debbiedearmon8731
      @debbiedearmon8731 5 месяцев назад +1

      Cause it’s old

    • @TheWhitehiker
      @TheWhitehiker 5 месяцев назад

      @@debbiedearmon8731 A good reason to put the real, not the click-bait date, in the video.

    • @debbiedearmon8731
      @debbiedearmon8731 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheWhitehiker Agree..the date of the video should be in the description, not the posting date.

    • @TheWhitehiker
      @TheWhitehiker 5 месяцев назад

      @@debbiedearmon8731 Thanks.

  • @richardcohen8072
    @richardcohen8072 5 месяцев назад +1

    Dr. Powell proves one can be an "intellectual" but remain a fool .

  • @ghiaferrari7585
    @ghiaferrari7585 5 месяцев назад

    Where is VDH youtube account. Its gone.

    • @EducatingForLiberty
      @EducatingForLiberty  5 месяцев назад

      Unfortunately, we don't know! Have you seen the other VDH videos we have posted?

  • @mrleverage2006
    @mrleverage2006 4 месяца назад +1

    Victor D. H. please tell people to Vote NO on Prop 15. This is a backdoor way of unhinging Prop. 13.

  • @christiansmith-of7dt
    @christiansmith-of7dt 5 месяцев назад +1

    Maybe if they had poisoned you as much as they poisoned me then i could relate with what you were saying

  • @talisikid1618
    @talisikid1618 2 месяца назад

    What ABC? What NBC?

  • @stevenhopper-hj5uh
    @stevenhopper-hj5uh 5 месяцев назад +2

    VDHanson: You're asking good insight filled questions, thos😊e not considered in the political realm. Interest groups push their agenda! We citizens aren't represented. The Country bringing in, in passage the many migrants, should have to take them, "offer them amnesty"! We could set up centers in Mexico (not here!) for their care, this for the many multitudes. Then they can come up with their own answers!

  • @ameliaannhouck2670
    @ameliaannhouck2670 5 месяцев назад +3

    BEEN SEEING MIGRANTS SINCE 1950'S , COME TO FARM LABOR AND EVERY YEAR THEY CAME, AND THEN WENT BACK TO MEXCICO AND DID NOTHING FOR WORK UNTIL NEXT SEASON OF MIGRANTS BUT THEY DO NOT PAY THEIR TAXES!
    THE MIGNANTS HERE , AT LEAST 70% DO NOT PAY TAXES AND GET AWAY WITH IT EVEN BEING HERE FOR 3O YEARS , STILL ILLEGAL AND DID THEY PAY TAXES? YOU KNOW THEY DID NOT PAY TAXES AND OVER 50% HERE FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS , ANY STATS ON THEM AND WHERE THEY ARE, WHAT THEY DO AND DO THEY PAY THEIR TAXES!

  • @michaelbellingham719
    @michaelbellingham719 Месяц назад

    Victor Davis Hanson has made a series of claims about immigration that critics argue are misleading, alarmist, and rooted in exaggerated fears rather than objective facts. Here are some of the key themes in Hanson’s statements and how they have been challenged:
    Immigrants as a Burden on Social Systems: Hanson often portrays immigrants as a strain on welfare systems, implying that they take more than they contribute. However, studies consistently show that immigrants contribute more in taxes than they use in public benefits over the long term. Many economists argue that immigrants play essential roles in sectors like agriculture, construction, and healthcare, supporting economic growth rather than draining resources.
    "Cultural Decline" Due to Multiculturalism: Hanson frequently blames multiculturalism for eroding "Western values" and has suggested that immigrants don’t assimilate. This argument is criticized for lacking evidence, as data indicates that immigrants in the U.S. generally adopt English and American cultural norms over time. Scholars argue that Hanson’s framing misrepresents the multicultural fabric of the U.S. and ignores the positive cultural contributions immigrants make.
    Framing Immigration as a "Threat" to National Identity: Hanson warns of an “invasion” of immigrants that could undermine American identity, using language that is often associated with far-right nationalist movements. This rhetoric is widely criticized for stoking unnecessary fear and dividing communities, especially as there is no concrete evidence to support claims that immigration inherently threatens national security or identity.
    Blaming "Sanctuary Cities" for Crime: Hanson has suggested that sanctuary cities, which limit cooperation with federal immigration enforcement, foster lawlessness and higher crime rates. Studies have debunked this claim, showing that sanctuary cities often have lower crime rates compared to non-sanctuary cities. By linking immigrants to criminality without data support, Hanson reinforces harmful stereotypes.
    Claiming That Open Borders Benefit Elites Only: Hanson often argues that "open borders" serve the interests of wealthy elites who exploit cheap labor while regular citizens bear the costs. This narrative is seen as misleading, as most immigrants enter the U.S. legally, and there are numerous regulations already in place that govern immigration and labor standards.
    Portraying Immigrants as Unwilling to Assimilate: Hanson suggests immigrants resist assimilation, preserving foreign customs at the expense of “American culture.” This misrepresents the reality that immigrants, over generations, tend to adopt American values, language, and traditions. Research consistently shows high rates of assimilation among immigrant families in the U.S., contradicting Hanson’s assertions.
    Hanson’s views on immigration have been heavily criticized for using fear-based rhetoric that aligns more with far-right nationalist perspectives than with objective scholarship. Critics argue that his statements lack grounding in data and serve to push a divisive agenda rather than provide factual insights into immigration issues.
    Sources:
    Hoover Institution, "The Civic Cost of Illegal Immigration" (Criticism of Hansen's rhetoric on social strain and multiculturalism)
    New Criterion and additional coverage of Hanson’s work on immigration

  • @ceecee6679
    @ceecee6679 5 месяцев назад +2

    Benny is no match for VDH.

  • @shaunwells5015
    @shaunwells5015 4 месяца назад

    man i wanted to see his response to the boy saying (roughly) politics don't represent the values of society - in that instance

  • @jessewallace12able
    @jessewallace12able 4 месяца назад

    As long as people are getting speeding tickets- there should be zero illegal immigrants in California.

  • @jonathanblanchard6480
    @jonathanblanchard6480 5 месяцев назад

    The fence sitter vs the rail splitter...

  • @anotherabeer4341
    @anotherabeer4341 5 месяцев назад +3

    This is too old. What year?

    • @EducatingForLiberty
      @EducatingForLiberty  5 месяцев назад

      This debate was recorded in 2006. Do you have any favorite VDH moments?

  • @lynnetx5521
    @lynnetx5521 5 месяцев назад +2

    Love VD H

    • @EducatingForLiberty
      @EducatingForLiberty  5 месяцев назад

      Glad you liked the video! Who else would you like us to have on our channel?

  • @2009Cake
    @2009Cake 5 месяцев назад +2

    Well, this video did not age well.

  • @rickwalden7022
    @rickwalden7022 5 месяцев назад +1

    Would love to subscribe and i did but got many people from the institute.

  • @oceanmariner
    @oceanmariner 4 месяца назад

    This is from 2006.

  • @ralphnabozny8494
    @ralphnabozny8494 4 месяца назад

    isn't there a great big hole some where out west to put stuff in?

  • @richlockwood3754
    @richlockwood3754 5 месяцев назад +2

    Benny needs to sit down and shut up quit posting up on VDH,Benny is a product of no respect for his elders

  • @kensisti2761
    @kensisti2761 28 дней назад

    Mandate a balanced college tuition. can fix their

  • @kensisti2761
    @kensisti2761 28 дней назад

    Define "the entitlements they draw?" Please.

  • @algabriel1310
    @algabriel1310 5 месяцев назад

    Lots of grey areas on such a simple matter but politics will be politics

  • @airrik2653
    @airrik2653 5 месяцев назад +7

    Very old...

    • @georgiaelijosius8791
      @georgiaelijosius8791 5 месяцев назад

      ur wrong

    • @richierich440007
      @richierich440007 5 месяцев назад

      But yet, it’s a 1000 % WORSE than the time this was recorded 🤦🏻
      WAKE THE FOCK UP PEOPLE ⏰⏰⏰

    • @richierich440007
      @richierich440007 5 месяцев назад

      @@georgiaelijosius8791You’re right BTW Giorgia 👊

    • @airrik2653
      @airrik2653 5 месяцев назад +5

      30 years old at least... Nothing wrong with posting old videos, it just should be dated...

  • @bernadettesheehy5463
    @bernadettesheehy5463 2 месяца назад

    What is that sound ..like someone turning pages overly dramatically...

  • @peredavi
    @peredavi 5 месяцев назад +1

    California went from a great place in 1950s and before to a awful mess.

    • @EducatingForLiberty
      @EducatingForLiberty  4 месяца назад

      Do you think immigration can fundamentally change a country?

  • @elvishiekios8826
    @elvishiekios8826 3 месяца назад

    This video is probably made in

  • @phyllisalderson6247
    @phyllisalderson6247 5 месяцев назад

    Well no people much let in the foreign countries ,,, wouldn’t seem ,, they be all here !!!!😳🙏

  • @diondalais1155
    @diondalais1155 4 месяца назад

    A boy versus a man!

  • @Mike-h7y6v
    @Mike-h7y6v 5 месяцев назад

    Good

    • @EducatingForLiberty
      @EducatingForLiberty  5 месяцев назад

      Glad you enjoyed the video! What other guests would you like us to have on our channel?

    • @Mike-h7y6v
      @Mike-h7y6v 5 месяцев назад

      @@EducatingForLiberty 8

  • @mimip8834
    @mimip8834 24 дня назад

    Why is he talking about Mexican illegal immigrants ? There are millions of illegal immigrants from many different countries who are undocumented like from Venezuela , Ecuador, Colombia etc. ? It is not just Mexico.

  • @Dmoney177
    @Dmoney177 4 месяца назад +1

    I love how victor politly schools this snotty libral dude. Why are they all such bratts with a pipedream that defies common sense???

  • @amanda-clairebennett6132
    @amanda-clairebennett6132 5 месяцев назад

    VICTOR AMANDA BENNETT.... UNDISPUTED.....

  • @kensisti2761
    @kensisti2761 28 дней назад

    I found they all learned english.

  • @samlazar1053
    @samlazar1053 4 месяца назад

    The Americans were always,mostly obsessed whit. GERMANS AND RUSSIANS.
    One WOULD. SAY WHAT ABOUT BRITISH...But then u read a book called Russians,Germans and the American identity.

  • @michaelbellingham719
    @michaelbellingham719 Месяц назад

    Victor Davis Hanson is a divisive figure, especially among legitimate historians, many of whom see him as a conservative provocateur who’s abandoned serious scholarship for partisan commentary. Originally recognized for his expertise in classical history, Hanson has since morphed into a Trump loyalist and far-right propagandist, using his historical knowledge to justify deeply reactionary views. Historians who once respected his work on Greek history and warfare now view his shift into political punditry as a serious compromise of intellectual integrity.
    Here's what Hanson does that has led many historians to consider him intellectually dishonest:
    Politicizing History to Serve a Far-Right Agenda:
    Hanson has twisted historical analogies to fit a hardline nationalist agenda, often drawing flimsy comparisons between ancient societies and modern America in ways that exaggerate threats to “Western civilization.” His narratives consistently present progressive values as corrupting forces, reminiscent of far-right figures who cherry-pick history to prop up authoritarian ideas.
    Promoting Alarmist and Divisive Rhetoric:
    Instead of providing balanced historical analysis, Hanson paints a picture of cultural apocalypse, depicting liberals, immigrants, and “elites” as existential threats to American values. His commentary borders on conspiracy theory, with critics accusing him of stoking paranoia rather than contributing meaningful insights. Scholars see this as manipulative fearmongering rather than legitimate historical interpretation.
    Hypocrisy and Elitism:
    Hanson rails against “elites” and portrays himself as a defender of the “common man,” but he’s as embedded in elite circles as anyone. He’s leveraged his academic background to gain credibility in conservative media while ignoring actual evidence or balanced analysis. This hypocrisy has drawn criticism from historians who see his "anti-elite" posturing as both opportunistic and dishonest.
    Selling Out Scholarship for Partisan Influence:
    Historians who once respected Hanson’s scholarship now see him as a figure who has sold out to become a mouthpiece for far-right ideology. His unchecked support of Trump and attacks on “liberal intellectuals” have led many in the academic world to view him as little more than a propagandist hiding behind a façade of scholarship.
    Hanson’s transformation from a respected classicist to a far-right ideologue exemplifies the dangers of intellectual dishonesty in academia. He’s using his knowledge to validate partisan extremism rather than seeking truth, making him a polarizing figure who’s viewed with contempt by mainstream historians.

  • @mkatzfive5
    @mkatzfive5 5 месяцев назад +1

    there was a comprehensive study that showed prior to tightening the border (decades ago), 80+% of the immigrants went back home each year. They had been employed as seasonal laborers, so they came for the work (that u.s. citizens won't do) and then returned. when we closed the borders, they stayed, because it would be too hard to re-cross. How a govt policy had the opposite of the intended effect.

    • @jonathanblanchard6480
      @jonathanblanchard6480 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@mkatzfive5so twenty percent inflation year over year without boarder control...

    • @EducatingForLiberty
      @EducatingForLiberty  5 месяцев назад

      Please share the study. We would love to open up the discussion.

  • @michaelvoisine7075
    @michaelvoisine7075 4 месяца назад

    Sad

  • @robertvasquez3856
    @robertvasquez3856 5 месяцев назад

    Hanson your one of the biggest hypocrite if ever listen too please be real ,stop tryiing to play a God it makes me so sick .....

  • @srinagarpakistan3627
    @srinagarpakistan3627 4 месяца назад

    Xenofoob

  • @owensclock
    @owensclock 5 месяцев назад +3

    Shhh, They're MIGRANTS, not illegal immigrants.

    • @tony-gy2bq
      @tony-gy2bq 5 месяцев назад

      they are invaders.

  • @michaelgiambra8801
    @michaelgiambra8801 5 месяцев назад

    There is a program in place for migrant workers and has been operating with problems for decades. Most migrant workers under this program go back and forth legally with no problems. There are thousands of residences here in the Rio Grande Valley where many leave vehicles and clothing and such. They are a welcome in the community and have there own culture. Yes, there are abuses on both sides but it is a workable solution.

  • @ronlundgren4682
    @ronlundgren4682 3 месяца назад

    Well you lost my backup you're part of the problem now so I'm not listening to you

  • @rayman1611
    @rayman1611 5 месяцев назад +1

    I really want to know why Mayorkas is so dedicated to illegal immigration. If it’s so there will potentially be more Democrats to vote Democrat, please tell me that. That would make sense from the Democratic point of view. What the hell is the real reason?

  • @JamesBlazen
    @JamesBlazen 5 месяцев назад

    My Italian ancestors immigrated illegally.

  • @gregorybyrne2453
    @gregorybyrne2453 5 месяцев назад

    Matthew 24:6 "Wars and rumours of wars"
    between the 12 AntiChrist tribal religious nations of the middle far east fleeing Noah's SE to NW tidal Tsunamis to come.

  • @Barbara-ne6vc
    @Barbara-ne6vc Месяц назад

    If you quit giving them social services, that they are not owed, they would be identified in short time.

  • @danieltallon5087
    @danieltallon5087 4 месяца назад

    Your racist.

    • @Rowdy213SCLA
      @Rowdy213SCLA 4 месяца назад +1

      What did he say that's racist?

    • @danieltallon5087
      @danieltallon5087 4 месяца назад

      @@Rowdy213SCLA Asking that. Your racist.

    • @Rowdy213SCLA
      @Rowdy213SCLA 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@danieltallon5087" You're " racist!

    • @sanniepstein4835
      @sanniepstein4835 Месяц назад

      What a lazy retort.
      Numbers matter.

  • @michaelbellingham719
    @michaelbellingham719 Месяц назад

    Victor Davis Hanson has made a series of claims about immigration that critics argue are misleading, alarmist, and rooted in exaggerated fears rather than objective facts. Here are some of the key themes in Hanson’s statements and how they have been challenged:
    Immigrants as a Burden on Social Systems: Hanson often portrays immigrants as a strain on welfare systems, implying that they take more than they contribute. However, studies consistently show that immigrants contribute more in taxes than they use in public benefits over the long term. Many economists argue that immigrants play essential roles in sectors like agriculture, construction, and healthcare, supporting economic growth rather than draining resources.
    "Cultural Decline" Due to Multiculturalism: Hanson frequently blames multiculturalism for eroding "Western values" and has suggested that immigrants don’t assimilate. This argument is criticized for lacking evidence, as data indicates that immigrants in the U.S. generally adopt English and American cultural norms over time. Scholars argue that Hanson’s framing misrepresents the multicultural fabric of the U.S. and ignores the positive cultural contributions immigrants make.
    Framing Immigration as a "Threat" to National Identity: Hanson warns of an “invasion” of immigrants that could undermine American identity, using language that is often associated with far-right nationalist movements. This rhetoric is widely criticized for stoking unnecessary fear and dividing communities, especially as there is no concrete evidence to support claims that immigration inherently threatens national security or identity.
    Blaming "Sanctuary Cities" for Crime: Hanson has suggested that sanctuary cities, which limit cooperation with federal immigration enforcement, foster lawlessness and higher crime rates. Studies have debunked this claim, showing that sanctuary cities often have lower crime rates compared to non-sanctuary cities. By linking immigrants to criminality without data support, Hanson reinforces harmful stereotypes.
    Claiming That Open Borders Benefit Elites Only: Hanson often argues that "open borders" serve the interests of wealthy elites who exploit cheap labor while regular citizens bear the costs. This narrative is seen as misleading, as most immigrants enter the U.S. legally, and there are numerous regulations already in place that govern immigration and labor standards.
    Portraying Immigrants as Unwilling to Assimilate: Hanson suggests immigrants resist assimilation, preserving foreign customs at the expense of “American culture.” This misrepresents the reality that immigrants, over generations, tend to adopt American values, language, and traditions. Research consistently shows high rates of assimilation among immigrant families in the U.S., contradicting Hanson’s assertions.
    Hanson’s views on immigration have been heavily criticized for using fear-based rhetoric that aligns more with far-right nationalist perspectives than with objective scholarship. Critics argue that his statements lack grounding in data and serve to push a divisive agenda rather than provide factual insights into immigration issues.
    Sources:
    Hoover Institution, "The Civic Cost of Illegal Immigration" (Criticism of Hansen's rhetoric on social strain and multiculturalism)
    New Criterion and additional coverage of Hanson’s work on immigration