These Indie Devs are trying to silence my channel...
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- Опубликовано: 8 мар 2024
- Holmgard Games, developers of Project L33T have just filed a False DMCA strike on my channel,
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Thanks buddy for your expertise.
randomly saw the former l33t video. but yeah they are fishy as fuck. you didn´t tell anyone not to buy it, your critique was appropriate, you took a look at their past behaviours and warned people about it.
hopefully this blows into some streisand effect. dont preorder l33ts games, wait for ratings and reviews. you got a sub
It feels like I have seen this before 😂
This is why we champion you Big Fry. Cause you tell it how it is and hold people accountable. Thank you.
These Morrons would have to come to Canada Right???
DMCAing channels that are critical of you are not the actions of a trustworthy company. That's shiesty behavior.
RIght? It's like they don't know what the Streisand Effect is... If they're doing shit like this, they're not a company you want to deal with at all.
its illegal
Are we actually surprised? Do we forget who Sergey Titov is and how he handled criticism of WarZ/infestation survivor stories? The Day Before? Nothing new
@@Tmtrnr And yet they get away with it all the time. Really, filing a dmca complaint should(as I understand it) require an affidavit that you legally declare that they absolutely are stealing your content, which means you *_SHOULD_* be able to take them to court over it. But that's an entirely different, and still expensive fight, and while you may get a judgement for whatever amount, that doesn't mean you'll actually be able to collect on it.
Our legal system is utterly fucked.
Right, if you're confident in your product then a channel of 300K criticizing you should be met with a simple: "Decide for yourself when our game launches."
It was a single video, not a smear campaign.
Even "the Day Before" devs didn't DMCA your channel. This says a lot.
That's a damn good point.
They are probably broke at the moment and even if they had enough money to send the dmca it would not be favourable for them anyways...
probably also has to do with the fact by the time he made the video the devs already packed their stuff and left
why would they, bro gave them years of free ads. Hell if I was them I'd let him talk too lol
@@Sgt.Wolfhartyou see, the problem is when you're selling a product, instead of making money with purely attention, then the rule of "any attention is good attention" does not apply. Bad attention is just that. Bad.
They got exposure that's pretty neutral and instead of running with it they shot themselves in their head.
Dodgy devs never change
Yeah I felt like I was pretty neutral/maybe a bit pessimistic. Thought I handled it well. Guess they disagreed lol
@@BigfryTV can't wait for them to count their losses and try to sweep this whole fiasco under the rug lmao
@@BigfryTV Can't wait for them to blame you personally for the game's eventual failure. XD
@@KaitoGillscalelol I can see it already, just like the day before
@BigfryTV You did, these "devs" just know you're telling the truth.
kinda had a feeling this was going to happen...Those devs are a bunch of snakes.
haha me too.
They done their own cancelling with this one lol
This is the perfect way to dig a grave for their own game lol
these companies are going to die 4 incompetance
dont compare snakes to them, they are worms.
if yt handed out fines for false DMCA claims they would make a ton of money
DMCA Claims are ultimately settled by a court, not by RUclips. To prove a DMCA false you'd have to get in front of a judge and have a judge rule that the content was fair use/not infringing on a copyright. Furthermore if it goes that far and a judge believes you acted in bad faith when filing a DMCA, then you can face fines as a result. RUclips can't get involved, it's a legal dispute not social one.
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Which is why USA DMCA Law is outdated. I can scam it for illegal profit and RUclips will green light it.
Very normal to do, sadly.
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True... Scams are scams.
@@balzarinemythus50 isn't making a false DMCA claim a felony too? 😂
@@helixmusic4279 It's technically perjury.
100% a community manager larping as a lawyer lmao
chatGPT responses lmao
i'm telling my mommy on you
@9:30
I don't see the issue. They're willing to hash this out in a legal setting so everything is done by the book. If this youtuber thinks he's right then he should meet them in court and challenge thier stance. It should he an easy win if these devs are as shady as he claims them to he, plus it would be good for his channel. Seems like a win win for him.
only reason i can think of why he doesn't go to court is because he feels he cannot win. It's not like it will cost him anything, I'm sure his subs will pay the legal fees if he begs enough.
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If they really believed the game to be good, they wouldn’t have said a thing.
Or they would've thanked for the feedback and worked to improve their reputation. Or some such.
Ya know, ANYTHING that would be productive for your company and upcoming game.. but you do this mindless dumb shit... who tf runs these "companies"
Streisand effect LOL
Invite him to play a early build of the game and have an interview. Problem solved. Helldivers' CEO is ridiculously communicative with the community so there is no excuse for these guys.
For how much the term "Streisand effect" has gotten into the common lexicon, you'd think people would realize when they're about to step in it.
My viewing of this video is one example of this.
Company does shitty thing: not on my radar.
Company tries to silence people:
RUclips: Hey, here's something related to companies doing bad things
Company: is officially on my radar.
It is really wild that they are just that petty because you don't want to fully put your trust in them.
In before the company says that “the lawsuit used all the money so now the game just simply can’t be finished, it’s clearly not our fault at all!”
And then they blame the criticism of youtubers to have ruined the company before they had a chance to make the game good... I feel like i heard something like that just the day before 😂
10:14 It wouldn't be an indie developer's Discord if there wasn't that one meatrider who is so committed to ensuring that the project he's given money to stays somewhat afloat to the point that he is encouraging said developer to legally and financially ruin you, despite the LITERAL PAGES OF SEARCHABLE OPEN-SOURCE information regarding the dev team's dubious history in this industry. So blinded by the sunken cost fallacy that not even 7 days after joining the Discord, he's already fully committed and sided with the devs and rejected all else. Incredible.
You just have to admire the commitment of some people on the internet, based on nothing but how they would like things to be.
Meatrider😂
100% anime girl profile pic too
They are probably all the same people that though the day before was a good game and not a scam
Empyrion is one such example of people who have been with the game for so long they dont understand what a wreck it is now
It's time to Ralley against companies who falsely use dmca takedowns, they need to be held accountable, and RUclips needs to be held accountable for having zero protections for creators against this sort of issue.
I don't get why DMCA takedowns that are counterclaimed and where the first party doesn't follow up with court filings aren't punished somehow. If someone issues a DMCA takedown request legitimitely, I would presume they would also be willing to pursue further legal action if the copyright infringer didn't remove the content. I think RUclips should refer the party issuing a spurious DMCA takedown to law enforcement. I assume that RUclips requires full identification before issuing a takedown request, but maybe I'm wrong about that.
As it is now, someone could issue DMCA takedowns on every video on the platform without reprecussions, and that seems very wrong.
@@oliver_twistor there is simple explanation. It all comes to safe harbor status, basically this means that when someone wants to sue youtube for content they host, youtube can claim that they are under safe harbor status: meaning that you need to sue creator of content because youtube has no knowledge of content hosted on a website. If they knew they hosted pirated content/other illegal stuff and you can prove it, they lose this status so you can sue actual company. when someone issues copyright strike, the only thing youtube can do is verify information claimant put (like if he cites law to take video down and not something like: he slandered me) and they can try to verify if content they claim to own (not actual content in the video, but what they claim to own).. they actually own it.
It's not really youtube's fault. They're required by law to not ask questions, but they in fact deny obvious bs claims that aren't even filled properly for example, and they have sued several copyright trolls.
You should want to change the law, it's the DMCA that's made to screw normal people and favor the big corpos
@@oliver_twistor" I assume that RUclips requires full identification before issuing a takedown request" Given what happened in the past with Bungie's name and DMCA's, I doubt they fixed it.
> held accountable
Good luck with that. People been crying 'accountability' for hundreds of years.
Its nice of them to let us know that you were right
He was right all along. Hopefully they Will shut down for good like how we did for the day before terrorist organisation
@@kanthanesankandiah760 Ah yes, "Terrorist Organisation"... There's a difference between scammers and that.
Also these scammers have been around for over a decade making like 20 scam games and are well known for their scams - their first scam title was literally the reason why steam introduced the easy refund system. If there's anything that's currently hyped or relevant you can be sure they'll release something in that area. And in between there's gonna be another Zombie Survival game scam from them.
I'm starting to feel Steam needs some sort of developer trust metric. Like a review rating for developers.
As game development gets more accessible, we're going to see a lot more scam projects emerge.
That would be wonderful. I agree with your comment about game development. It's a double-edged sword that is hard to deal with. On one hand, as a developer myself who wants as many people as possible to be able to express themselves through code and the game art form. On the other, I'm worried that we'll see a flood of scams and disingenious projects fooling customers. Ultimately it will hurt genuine and honest developers, because trust in new and small developer teams or solo endeavours will be slashed.
I think games platforms like Steam could and should be a big part of the solutions to this dilemma.
@@oliver_twistor Yah, I agree. A review system for developers will drive traffic towards more established companies.
I don't know how this could be done in a way that's both fair to indie devs working on their first game, but also useful for highlighting companies and individuals with a low reputation.
@@Uncle_Fred They had one, users could vote which games should be allowed on steam. Barely anyone used it and funnily enough one of the games voted in was the first scam title of these devs, which brought birth to the refund system steam got now.
With how bad review bombing gets on steam I don't think that would be a good idea
@@Unknown_Genius Not a greenlight system, something that would allow developers to build a game studio reputation on the platform.
Holmgard better get familiar with this quote:
*“I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.”*
ToraI ToraI ToraI was an interesting movie. The quote does fit too.
Hahahah, love the content BigFry, the fact they are going this far just shows how much you nailed every point of them and now they are seething that’s the truth. Keep cooking
Ah Shit here we go again
u forgot the comma
@@NighttParade You forgot proper grammar.
@@PrushbingerYou forgot the proper grammar.
@@xeon39688 No, 'the' is not necessary, both versions are applicable. So, you forgot the proper way to correct someone.
Right on
The funniest thing about this whole situation is before the false dmca claim I didn't really think too much about it, but now im going to remember the company and game name with a huge red flag everytime I see anything about it
i'm so happy I watched the old video before it got a takedown.
Also, 16 hours later, I’m glad this is still up to watch. They would be dumb to try it again here.
It's back up I'm pretty sure. Just watched it.
"FU, also, wanna play our game?" Classy. Good to know the video will be back up in 10 days.
The Day Before 2.0 😂😂
But hopefully you win the counter dmca, definitely file that we are with you
Hell it's a repeat of Day One: Garry's Incident
Two Days Before
The Day Before 2.0? More like The Day Before: Episode 7, kek. Dude, this is the 7th time they've released the same game under different names since 2012.
@@vitaliyleopard7309 lolol you right
What a ridiculous attempt at trying to threaten you to remove your *opinion* off youtube... I don't care if this is a scam or not, their very behavior would have put me off from the project. That was the most passive aggressive "amicable" solution attempt just to silence you. Glad you called their bluff.
RUclips needs a failsafe for this kinda shit.
just watch them hold off on the strike removal for the longest time possible
not suprising coming from a company that supports anti LGBTQ and is pretty much anti fun. and pro child rape support.
they backed tons of youtubers so far that spread hate and youtube defends them somehow????
i got called a F slur a few times on one of those channels comments. told them to KYS and i got a day ban for it. for hatespeech.
went back days later. their hate towards me and lgbtq was still up. telling i should unalive myself for being the wrong way.
Not sure if that is a good idea. It´s how it is to safe people who have legitemit claims. But there defenitly shoud be repercussions for false claims like this. Like: one false claim and on following claims the legitimacy of those claims is checked before the vid gets taken down.
@@brodequinakatukk7591 definitely agree with ya there
@@brodequinakatukk7591 Not a good idea no but at the same time the DMCA has changed barely one iota (no major things to make sure it meets the criteria of the changing landscape, it was made for a time when the internet was relatively speaking still "small") since it was first enacted in 98'...It doesn't have ANY safeguards against false claims, it still operates the exact same as it did in 98' AKA a goddamn mallet and it doesn't matter if YOU are the copyright holder and it's your stuff that's being hit with a DMCA, you're STILL hit the exact same as the person filing it would be.
Didn't see the original video, no matter, I'll watch it in 10 days when it's re-instated.
It's on twitter
It's back up 🤣
in their discord i commented on the email mentioning Sergey introduced them to some of the Arktos hires. Immediately banned. LOL
Oh I saw that happen live, yeah. We're laughing about it all in my discord. Brutal shit lol
lol I got banned for “spreading misinformation” in a certain hot game’s discord for asking about the inclusion of cosmetic real-world money microtransactions being worked on based on a certain website that shows their game package updates, before they’ve even put out a demo/beta for everyone, albeit they did do a “closed 2-day playtest”…
@@ohainickify What game?
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it actually kinda funny, the fact that they think DMCA'ing a video that many have already seen will fix their reputation is actually crazy, or the fact that they even think they have grounds to DMCA, everything was under public domains and it isnt very hard to do a bit of research in on the project.
Just a info to the company.
In EU its ILLEGAL to fakely "discount" a product.
"Under the Directive, misleading advertising is defined as any "advertising which in any way, including its presentation, deceives or is likely to deceive the persons to whom it is addressed or whom it reaches and which, by reason of its deceptive nature, is likely to affect their economic behavior or which for those reasons, injures or is likely to injure a competitor." "
Idk if theres any lawyers here who can confirm but ye...
It's illegal in the US as well, but no one actually bothers to pay attention and give consequences to those who false advertise. I mean just look at all those mobile games and no one takes legal action against those.
companies in the EU still do it. products get "adviced pricing" data from manufacturers but companies will inventory it at a lower price and call it a "discount". Some scam companies like samsung will force a contract price so businesses cant compete and they will ban you from selling you their products.
It’s nice you’re standing up to these guys. Companies need to know not to fuck with people using false DMCAs.
12:47 NDA is almost always a redflag
YUUUUP, my only NDA experience was with Dead Matter and look at that scamware now…
It was the case with Ready or Not as well but at least that game turned out decent.
Not always. Several great games out there that served up their games to a select group of people pre-release under NDA, to get honest outside feedback without leaking details about the game.
It can be used by honest devs, to avoid bad press about an early build, based on issues the dev are aware of, and have a plan to change well in advance of release, to keep the mystique around what the game will be like, and to avoid a bunch of hype too early - You don't want people to get too hyped, if your game won't be releasing for years. People might get tired of speculating, and move on, or make up too many preconceptions of what the game will be like.
It has to be put in the context of the rest of the project, to say whether it's a scummy move. In this case, it most definitely is.
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>decent
>Completely broken and unplayable without a billion of AI mods
NDAs are pretty common in early play testing but generally the terms used allow play testers to talk generally about their experiences but not about specific details. It leads to a grey area where you can legally talk about a game you play tested, but you could also run the risk of letting something slip that could result in legal action so most people tend to just remain silent for the sake of playing it safe.
In this case if they just want you to clam up and not even utter their name, they're using it as a tool to silence you completely. That's not a red flag, that's straight up scumbaggery and the response to it should be exactly what we saw in this video. Don't play their shit, don't sign yourself into silence, know your rights and firmly assert them. Do not let them threaten you.
i actually found your channel during the Free Reign/sergey titov holy war. so been here for about a decade. this is so beautiful in a way💀
also, people on the discord are blinded by hype and pretty much have 0 critical thinking skills whatsoever and they will paint anyone who talks bad about the game they are excited for as a villain. i see it very often. if you’re early to spot and call shit out, that shit always happens. happened with Identity too. happened to me with another kickstarter game. shit is unbearable so i know how that feels
It even happened with the day before, even after all the evidence was piling up that it was just a scam. I am pretty sure there is still at least one blockhead sitting in his basement screaming at his pc, about how that game will be great, right now.
Jesus Christ… Identity… hooo
"You don't wanna buy our game? We are gonna sue you then" lol
So according to these devs and their cult followers, people should not speculate negative aspects of their game. Doesn't exactly breath more confidence into their project.
You need to crowdfund the legal fees and take these people to court. Sue their asses off.
I would like to also remind everyone that the people doing this have names and addresses.
Depending where he lives he could get "media liability insurance". Its a system some states have that will cover all legal costs. Any journalist (even youtuber) or media celebrity can get it for cases like what Fry is going thru. I wouldn't be surprised if he already has one.
their addresses are irrelevant and have no buisness being in any discussion regarding the company. You are as bad as them.
First paragraph is a waste of money and is unnecessary given the current state of things between them right now. The last paragraph is completely and utterly ridiculous. If your takeaway from situations like this is to become that vindictive - to dox people and whatever else you intend for people to do with names/addresses… then you have some things you really need to work out in therapy/anger management.
No. Implying doxxing makes you look equally bad. We want none of that.
15:10 The way they price their different packages may actually be considered fraud/deceptive pricing in some countries. If I'm releasing a new product and I intend to sell it at $100, but I release the product for $200 instead with a 50% discount, to give the illusion of a better deal. It can be considered illegal in certain situations and countries, because it was never actually priced at $200 at any point in time, and I never intended to sell it at $200.
netherlands where i live is one of those... companies got shut down for false discounts. its a pretty no go way to do bussiness. pretending the product is always been at 400 euro even if it just released. and keep a sale on it for say 90% off. 40 euro only wow.
and then the company gets strucken down. its funny to see.
I am pretty damn sure it´s illegal in germany. Customers are protected against illegal addvertising by customer protection laws, which includes discounts on products that have not even been released yet.
Even freaking Bethesda had to kneel down to the EU, for doing this shit in that one multiplayer Fallout game and their in-game store.
Good on Holmgard Games to turn a "maybe a scam" to "definitely a scam" all by themselves. Perhaps not a smart business move, but hey, if they want to let the world know of their scummy behaviour, they should be free to do that.
Wow... i'm sorry you gotta go thru this Fry, but i really appreciate it because it shows they want to make it seem like they are transparent but really aren't. If they take it to court i'm sure the community will come together for you because that's just disgusting of them especially when what they're claiming is provably FALSE. Obviously shown in this video.
Thanks for what you do man, i wish more people stood up to this garbage like you do.
They probably want to avoid court at all costs, because then their scummy practices might be brought to light. Who knows what other illegal/borderline illegal stuff they're hiding that BigFry didn't manage to uncover. They are also opening themselves up to questions regarding DMCA abuse, which is illegal. They probably only want to use the threat of court to make BigFry back off. Might work against a new content creator with one subscriber, but they don't know who they are dealing with.
10 years later and these chuckleheads are still at it... I remember buying into the hype of WarZ and holy Hell was that tragic.
They've also been busy in the past 10 years - they've released a few more survival scams, including one that played in the wild west during the RDR2 hype before it came to PC. If there's anything they can gain from they're quick at it
any game that actively goes after anyone that is "on the fence" when it comes to a company with an actual sketchy background is an instant NO SALE on my part.
i dont care how good the game ends up, the fact that someone with valid criticism saying "im not sure about this" is a threat to them means that there is NO good intent on the devs part.
All this does is prove you right, and make them look even more guilty. This gonna blow up back in their face, and the faster these guys keep exposing themselves, the faster we don't have to deal with them again (until their next scam).
Everytime I hear about the people connected to warz, I just wonder what they do to survive in-between their game releases, it has actually been in the back of my mind for literal years.
They're releasing like 2-3 scams each year - that's not even a joke, most of them fly under the radar, sometimes you find a website of a new WarZ or anything else with the exact prices tho, even tho after like 6-8 months they switch "dev teams" and other names are mentioned while the games get free 2 play.
This is why i love you bigfry. You aint scared to speak the truth
Glad you're in a position to stand up to this BS. 100% trying to scare you into silence for critiquing their "game". Hopefully this will be an eye opener for people in the gaming community and recognize these scams faster.
What's crazy is that your original video was caught by the algorithm and blew up quickly and reached a lot of people, and now that video is dead and lost all momentum and harmed your channel all for pettiness. I think u should pursue legal action on them.
getting strong day before vibes from this
Disprove the claim, don't try to take down a channel if you have nothing to hide Holmgard.
Yeah, here we go again. They never learn from mistakes. Taking down videos and threatening with lawsuit makes situation only worse for THEM.
Now even more content creators will talk about them. But maybe it was the plan?
Wait....did they just inadvertently admit that Sergey Titov IS working with them?
The rematch we have all been waiting for. Times have changed baby.
Lets do this
Project Y33T
Kick it to the curb.
I love this channel so much, it's like watching someone poke a wasp nest and expecting it to sit and bow. Fry made a calm little video about some suspicious things and told his viewers to be vigilant, as soon as he gets a DMCA threat it's almost fucking immediate lmao. I love it here
I thought this video had been copyright-claimed too by the looks of that thumbnail 😂
I just saw the title and started laughing
The ogre behind the curtain, urban legend Sergey Titov back at it in the old fashioned way. My man still stuck in the survival scam golden era.
This is beyond hilarious.🤣 Lets all just think about this for a second. We are not dealing with a single developer who is lashing out over his pride getting hurt by criticism.
This is a bunch of developers shitting themselfs over valid concerns. Then it went through the boardmeeting, getting waved further through to the legal team and what they come up with is *a false DMCA strike and legal threat tactics to **_safe_** their reputation* . Brilliant! I am pretty sure this one will get real entertaining.
Wow these devs are something else
When a company tries to silence criticism it only leads to questioning on how good the company really is
I remember when I was just a beginning pc soontobe chad and I got into their beginning “zombie” survival game. I was scammed so hard with that trilogy… it taught me a huge lesson
The fact that RUclips allow this is disgraceful and when you fight back they still keep the strikes on a channel keep fighting Bigfry big love.
The RUclips copyright system exists for a reason, you can’t really expect them to be at fault for what happened here. The video is back up anyways.
ANYONE who prebuys an incomplete game , without doing their due diligence is going to get what they deserve .
Oh god Titov. Thats explain it all.
Bought the huge pack for "The War Z" ages ago, they deleted it off steam and renamed it as something else and released that essentially removing it from libraries.. I can probably pull email receipts and steam wallet ones(If steam goes back far enough) Do not by these guys' stuff, I'm glad someone is around to warn people now
"We're so not scammers that we won't even let people THINK we might be!"
Tell me you are a scam without telling me you are a scam... THIS is exactly how.
This looks dodgy....
Devs: strike him
Okay...this looks really REALLY DODGY
You should reach out to Artemis Knives. Last i heard from him on his stream he seemed done as fuck with sergey. Id love to hear an interview with him what it was like working with sergey. As far as i could tell it seemed to be like the video game version of the disaster artist. Sergey being Tommy Wiseau and "the game" (WarZ, Aftermath, SS, etc.) being "The Room"
I wholeheartedly agree with taking this as far as it needs to go. Make an example out of them and these awful practices
Holmagrd Games are really just making this worse from themselves.
The only thing they accomplished is making it seem even more suspect 🤦♂
they 100% ran their email through chatgpt to rewrite what they had and add fancy words
LOL good luck having this lawsuit go through in Canada. We're pretty specific about what you can and can't say. They want to nitpick at bigfry, they don't know nitpicking until they try to do anything in a Canadian court. You'll be fine, bigfry. Keep fighting the good fight
Here we fucking go
Holy shit!
18:25 reminds me of when blizzard investigated themselves.
Here we go the video I’ve been waiting for 😅 these dodgy devs
Keep doing you BigFry, we are all happy to have you calling out these companies for their downright scummy business practices. Just know you have a ton of supporters ready to back you up at a moments notice 🙌
I cant believe there are people ruining their own company like this 😅
BABE WAKE UP!! BIGFRY DROPPED AGAIN 🗣️!!
Ill make sure to watch the original video 2 or 3 more times in 10 days when its back up.
Maybe it's time for a LegalEagle/BigFry crossover episode, just to really get the Streisand Effect rolling.
I see you countered their legal trap (the NDA olive branch) with one of your own (I assume), by using the footage of the "unrelated companies" games, if they DMCA it, they're basically acknowledging a connection because only the rights owner can issue the DMCA.
This is why I watch you. You take issue with bullshit that corpos and corrupt game devs try to pull these days. Thank you, million times, thank you.
F this game and the Titov connected devs and their shady practices. I'm sure this will end well for their game. It's gonna be DOA like their 5 last games.
I can here just how pissed you are in your tone.
We got him right where we want him.
that is a good point, DMCA is copyright but all the communications is about what you said, not the visuals of the video
This is why it's important to post to multiple sites, rather than solely relying on RUclips. I'm glad people were still able to see your video, despite this scummy behavior.
A DCMA, sounds like this team is on the up and up full legit.
These devs are about to get rekt so hard LMAO
An opportunity for more content too! lessgo
4:26 He said it COULD, not that it IS. There's a big meaning difference between those 2 adjectives that clarify what he clearly meant to say that these developers must've overreacted upon.
This is the first video of yours I've ever watched (it popped up on my recommended page) and I have to say; Well said, sir!
I used to work in the industry and it was very disheartening to see the absolute f**kery that goes on behind the scenes in every stage of development. To see it now happening outside of the internal mess like this too is infuriating. Don't take their shit!
the game looks like lethal company graphics with rust + 3rd person free asset
Damm I didn’t even get to watch the video before it got taken down:(
This is absolutely a sign that you hit the nail on the head with them. If they were not a scam or trying to scam then communication would have happened and possibly a follow up video from you. Instead they showed their true colors. We can vote with our money tho and not spend a single dollar supporting them until its proven not to be a scam. thanks for the great content! EDIT: after watching the whole video lol If they arnt a scam then why would they give you a fucking gag order to play the game and now present your findings to the public. wouldnt a game company that is making a game want all the free publicity they can get to promote the game? Thats wild for a game company to want a content creator to play the game and not tell people about it especially since they for some reason think playing the game would change your mind on what the facts are. whole thing is wild.
This shit right here is why I love BigFry. Fry, just know you have a loyal audience that understands what you're trying to do, and if shit goes down you will have support.
Scammers always scamming
Damn… was hoping it to be good
Never heard of:
This game
This company
Their past
Your channel
Thanks to all of this - you got a new subscriber. Keep me posted!
A copyright strike for talking about publicly available information? That feels illegal
Hole up does this nonsense literally go back to 2015
2012
@@BigfryTVthat’s even worst oh my lord get em fry
This started back in 2012. The game received huge hype in Russia, but it was a real disaster because of which the game turned into three separate pirated games supported by modders (which were closed anyway due to lawsuits)
And then there are people still defending this bullshit on their discord smh.
Yeah, the oddest part, folks in that discord really thinking there's ANY legit defense to these missteps from that studio. But then again fans will be fans...drinking up delusion and defending "their precious" no matter what. So glad I don't get caught up in fandom about anything. If it's good it's good and will have my respect, if it's bad it's bad and I'll leave it be. Being some fan that feels personally threatened by someone not liking what I like or feeling I need to defend said item is just beyond bizarre.
I say let them sue you. And when you win it will show any future companies not to mess with you.
I am reminded of a phenomenon called "Streisand effect".
"Ever get that feeling of deja vu?"