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"She worked her ass off NOT to be relatable."
😂😂😂 i love that. My queen said she was working to be a legend-in-the-making, not the girl-next-door.
I guess she didn't forsee this new market for relatability. I bet she wished she worked on being more human. Cuz it's hurting her sales
@ohhweeeee she's fine. She's not worried. So neither should you.
@@ohhweeeeeIf she cared about sales, she would move differently. She doesn't care about sales, she makes impact and sets the standards. She is human and she has shown that to us MANY times but yall don't pay attention. She's and mom of 3 and a wife and continues to be on top with the industry under her stiletto
@@lilp2350 You sound crazy. No one starts a for-profit business and doesn't care about the sales.
@@walterude6323 Dont worry about comment . Keep it pushing
Beyonce is walking proof that no matter who hates you, discredits you, and is rooting for you to fail, you will always succeed by staying quiet, paying them dust, and proceeding forward with your talent! That's why I want Tyla to keep going despite the constant hate she gets in the media. People can see she has the it factor and want to dim her light before she reaches her full potential!
And so far TYLA is doing that hopes she keeps it up
Tyla is a one hit wonder
@@QuatMan To You.
She's the walking embodiment of what's for you is for you.
You’re absolutely right I don’t care for her music too much but the girl can perform and she’s winning left and right. 💯💯
Beyonce and Taylor are two completely different artists.
as a fan of both, they are SO different. this shit gets annoying
@@mouna8720NO HONESTLY
Here’s the difference
Beyoncé started in R&B , Taylor started in country ( they started in 2 different genres )
Beyoncé started in a girl group , Taylor didn’t
SO DIFFERENT, they also clearly have different priorities and different high points, Beyoncé focuses on the vocal aspect, and performances, Taylor focuses on writing and charts, their music sounds nothing alike. As a Beyonce fan it’s annoying cos they NEVER compare Rihanna and Taylor? Why does every fanbase obsess over comparing their fav to Beyoncé? Beyoncé is even compared to Nicki and Nicki is a whole rapper, it’s actually ridiculous.
@@faiththomas1749yes they also didn’t start at the same time
8:33 I remember when Aaliyah passed and people were calling the radio station saying they wished it was Bey. She's been getting hate for a long time
Ikr? Yet they will never win...
Omg!!!! Really???? Damn
Wow. That's crazy.
Wow
I got get why people hate her
“if i gave two f*cks about some streamin numbers wouldve put lemonade up on spotify”!!!!
the difference is that tswift exhausts any and all chances to chart and do numbers while beyonce lets the artistry speak for itself and for the love of the craft.
Don’t you remember when Taylor Swift was only 18 years old, she beat hasbeyn to win Grammy Album Of The Year with Fearless Album(The most awarded country album of all time)
Talent:
Vocal: Beyonce
Dancing: Beyonce
Songwriting: Taylor
Producing: Taylor
Directing: Taylor
Multi-Instrumentalist: Taylor (Electric/Acoustic Guitar, Piano, Banjo, etc.)
Poet+Storyteller: Taylor
Acclaim+Awards: Taylor
Tour: Taylor
Sales+Streams: Taylor
Net Worth: Taylor
Cultural+Global+Economy Impact: Taylor Swift
@@romirosta1917Performer: Beyonce
@@romirosta1917
acclaim+awards: *Beyoncé
Producing: *Beyoncé
Directing: *Beyoncé
Culture: *Beyoncé
Acting: *Beyoncé (she has a golden globe nomination for Dreamgirls)
Performing: Beyoncé
Fashion: Beyoncé
Industry Impact: Beyoncé
@@romirosta1917You guys keep trying to act like Beyonce doesn’t have a 30 year long career and Taylor HERSELF has called Beyonce an inspiration. Taylor GREW UP watching Beyonce on television, there’s no comparison lol
@romirosta1917 Taylor may be a good performer, but singer? Aretha Franklin, Anita Baker, Pink even current singers, Coco Jones, Muni Long are powerful. I need emotion, I don't feel anything when Taylor sings. There's someone for everyone, Taylor's not for me, and that's OK.
I AM a Swiftie but started out as a (proud ass) member of the Beyhive in the late 90's and I had to sit my 13 yr old Swiftie daughter right down and explain to her WHY Beyonce deserves that top spot. If it was pop star of the year...okay maybe Taylor can take that one. But Beyonce has been BEYONCE for a long ass time and deserves this!
I remember being in middle school watching her on that little fake ass stoop with Michelle & Kelly (and Wyclef lol) in their first music video. I don't think the young Swifties (or just the out of touch with reality Swifties lol) really understand Beyonce's whole ass career and the legend she is.
As a member of both fan bases, people who are upset with Beyonce winning literally needs to sit in a mandatory 24 hour class that tells you all about THE Beyonce and why she deserves to be number one! ❤
That was LeToya & LaTavia sitting on the stoop with Kelly & Beyonce, not Michelle.
NOT U DONT KNOW THAT WASNT MICHELLE IN THE VIDEO, SHE DIDNT COME AROUND UNTIL SAY MY NAME
@@Shayy912but it was LeToya and LaTavia in the Say My Name video
I agree so much with this. I'm a big swifty but I was riding with Beyonce since I was in 4th grade! Since No, No, No. She more than deserved that number one spot❤
@JessieDee13 WRONG! it was michelle and farrah..watch again toots
“When I was around Beyoncé, I felt POOR” 😂😭😂😭😂 I felt that in my spirit ☠️.
Lol
I rewinded that part bout four times cracking up😂
She's one of one.
She's number one.
She's the only one.
Don't even waste your time trying to compete with her (don't do it).🐝
Puurrr❤
Well, if we're talking numbers. She's far from number one. Taylor OUTSELLS her by Millions every time. Check the scoreboard. Taylor also writes ALL OF HER MUSIC. However, Beyonce has certainly earned that number one spot. She's worked very hard and has remained relevant. She needs to retire now, tbh.
@@BJC-pk8cmretire?? Shes only 40 sumn? And numbers arent the only thing that calculates influence. And i never understood having to write songs to be considered the top🤷🏾♀️
❤❤❤
Beyonce will always be that girl. she is untouchable when it comes to her work ethic, her artistry, her music, her projects, films, business moves, there is just so much that she does so well in. Let alone, being in this industry for 25 plus years and still being at the forefront of pop culture, black culture, headlined Coachella, sold out tours, literally the celebrity of the celebrities, she is just unmatched. the hate will always confuse me, but at the same time like she said, it comes with success.
The only thing she was the best at is stage performance, and that's amongst females of her era. Chris Brown is a better performer than Beyonce by far.
RACISM PLAYS A HUGE PART OF THIS! PEOPLE CANT STAND TO SEE A SUCCESSFUL BLACK ENTERTAINER WHO IS FULLY SOBER, BEAUTIFUL AND TALENTED! NO DOWNFALL IN SIGHT.
SAY IT LOUDER
Black man has tried to take down her entire life mind you...
@@Supernova-rb5fpeveryone has a lot of the shit is JEALOUSY TOO
True but Beyonce get A LOT of hate in the black community too. I see it all the time and it’s sad.
It’s also reductive and racist critique when people say the only reason for Taylor Swift’s success is her white skin, because there sure are a lot of failed white musicians whose white skin didn’t secure a music career.
@@nameisamine TRUE! A certain demographic of black people (40s-50s-60s) HATE HER! They cannot imagine somebody that talented and beautiful being a good person! They are so bitter
To me, Beyonce is a student of the legends who have come before her. She’s using music to make cultural and political impact and effect her community which is why she challenges herself with every project. I feel like this is reflected in how she lives her life. Taylor swifts artistry stems from self-involvement and it’s continued to be that way. Even if she postures feminism, it’s white feminism- it’s bland and she has no nuance or noticeable politique in her music because she’s obsessed with not offending anyone and being palatable.
They’re really night and day.
I mean her palatability made her a self-made billionaire from music she wrote and performed for paying customers. Something very few musicians can say. The girl did something right! 🤷🏾♂️
Diddyonce is just a karaoke singer who can’t sing her self-written songs, can’t play multiple instruments, can’t make her own steps, can’t own the record for The Highest Grossing Tour Of All Time/The Greatest Live Performer/Touring Act Of All Time who owned by Taylor Swift 🤭🤣
This is perfect
@@romirosta1917you must be a bot
@@romirosta1917 taylor swift isn’t a formidable instrument player either. She writes in the pop landscape, those sorts of chord progressions are easy and repetitive and can be bland. Compared to actual musicians, she’s average again so this isn’t impressive to me
"Being a Black woman in America is scary because even the most successful Black women have to still fight for themselves.! This took me a whole therapy session to unpack. This is a harsh dose of reality I wasn't ready to take. I really thought pple were progressing 😮💨❤️
We're not progressing, especially in the USA. They just re elected a facist, racist, corrupt ex President over a better qualified, intelligent candidate based on race and gender. THIS IS AMERICA. 😢
if we are being completely honest, the correct ranking should have been
1. beyoncé
2. rihanna
3. lady gaga
True…
Period
exactly
This is the only answer!!
Yah
Beyoncé will always be held to an insurmountable standard because she IS the bar. Billboard's explanation for her being put at #1 should've been quite plainly, she is the ONLY artist along with MJ to be compared to EVERY single living figure in entertainment and beyond. That's IMPACT!
I'm not even a Beyonce stan but Beyoncé is closest thing we have to a female Micheal Jackson. Taylor is talented but doesn't touch Bey.
No fair to compare her with HIM
Legends have told themselves that Taylor Swift is the closest we will ever get to beatlemania again so... Respectfuly, you are wrong
I think they are beside each other in terms of success and talent, they are just 2 completely different artists. To say "Taylor doesn't touch Beyonce" is just factually wrong because they have both made history, and have both become mega stars. If you're going to make that statement, than the same can be said that "Beyonce can't touch Taylor" because look at the numbers alone, she completely outclasses Beyonce on the charts, sales, etc. So like I said, they both are legendary at different things, and they deserve equal recognition.
Ms swift is not even CLOSE anywhere near bey. Lets be REAL
@@dafihale7139 In what way? Because they both are massively successful artists. They're completely different. For example Beyonce may have a stronger voice than Taylor, but Taylor is a much stronger songwriter then Beyonce. They have completely different qualities. So not sure what you mean.
It’s insane how they both went to each others movie premieres and supported eachother publicly yet fans despise eachother..
That was just a PR move, taylor and her team have been manipulating the algorithms and people's perception to put her name on par with Beyoncé and that movie premier was just the beginning cos they negotiated the deal first. Even the billboard article about Beyoncé mentions taylor 17 times
@@charlesjustine2751 clock that tea
Please bfr. At least half of Taylor Swift's fanbase are racists. They don't give af about them going to each others premiers. Wake up.
The Mrs. Carter Show World Tour had 132 dates....TRUST.
If Bey wanted to do it again, she would!
I think modern digital media has gave everyone a stage and pedestal to the point where hype is valued more than talent and skill. And Taylor has the younger generations on lock so they’re comparing Beyoncé’s latest with Taylor current “prime”. But when Beyoncé was in her prime she was genuinely untouchable, but the girls have selective memory ig.
CLOCK ITT
Also, streaming makes numbers highly inflated. There's a reason, like all the sales records, are becoming heavily skewed towards newer streaming acts of the last few years.
@@FiRza-ru4vs THIS ^^^ Taylor’s prominence is linked to changes in how we view arts and entertainment in the streaming era. She’s just playing the market and succeeding. That’s why Beyonce is actively not chart obsessed, I think she thinks it’s all smoke and mirrors and cbf with it. Whereas Taylor is on her like 30th release of the same album this year I swear? Just to keep it charting for the stats? All she cares about is money
@@mercyscartel THISSSSSS 🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
I agree. However, Beyonce is still in her prime! She's never missed. Ever! Even today, Taylor can't stand next to Beyonce.
11:53 i've been saying this for the longest time. never, not once, have i ever heard beyoncé speak ill of anyone or act like a petty, messy celebrity. she keeps to herself, stays in her lane, and lets her work speak louder than words ever could. that level of humility and grace is so rare, especially in an industry that thrives on drama and people stepping on others to climb higher. yet, despite being the epitome of class, talent, and hard work, she still gets so much unwarranted hate and let’s be honest most of it isn’t even about her. it's people projecting their insecurities, bitterness, and jealousy onto her because they can’t handle the fact that she’s everything they’ll never be.
what’s wild is that even with all the noise, she doesn’t engage. she doesn’t clap back, start feuds, or stoop to their level. the hate only highlights how small they are compared to her. beyoncé’s legacy speaks for itself and the louder they hate, the more obvious it is that she’s leagues above them.
With paid+subjective articles by paid Z? LMAO!!! Well, Objectively, Taylor Swift already ranked #1 for Billboard’s Top Artists Of The Century and #4 for Billboard's Top Artists Of All Time, Top #10 Greatest Songwriter Of All Time, Billboard Woman Of The Decade
Tour: Taylor>Bey
Sales+Streams: Taylor>Bey
Charts: Taylor>Bey
Cultural+Global Impact: Taylor>Bey
@gelian3028 THIS. all your words: exactly! you hit the truth right on the head. haters are gonna hate. including in these very comments. Beyoncé is the absolute BEST at what she does, bar none. thanks for your insightful comment. and thank you Zach for being wise, witty, and eloquent as you always are (you always make me smile). 💕
@@romirosta1917what impact had Taylor had on the culture besides rereleasing old songs over and over again
@@princesspebble_ Girl stop.! Taylor Swift’s music is very emblematic. “Love Story” and “You Belong with Me” went huge. She’s really about women empowerment. Taylor and Beyonce were literally at each other’s movie concert movie premieres.! They celebrated each other’s successes. The hate is so unnecessary.!
I feel like pink, Britney spears, usher, Justin Timberlake, Christina Aguilera is more of Beyonce's peers because they came from the same era as her , where Michael Jackson, Madonna , Prince, came from a different generation
Nah Beyonce peers are the icon who came before her, the ppl who she study and they passed the baton too Aretha Prince, and MJ were impressed by her talent and her performance ability.
The term “Peer” has less to do with age, more to do with Status. He’s right. When you talk Peers of Beyonce, you’re talking G O A T type stuff.
Agree.
@@FearlessLove So, in my opinion, Gaga is her peer
@@FearlessLove okay I see what you mean
Bruno Mars not being on this list feels criminal!!!
dw boo he's not there for a reason xx
I think he is he is just not in the top 10
Yeah I would have put Bruno next to drake and gaga, he definitely should have been higher on the list.
He’s #18
He is he’s just lower down on the list
Beyoncé has diamond eligible records, she just don’t update them bc she don’t care
Taylor swift doesn’t have ONE iconic performance! NOT ONE! I’ve NEVER been gagged by a Taylor vocal performance and certainly NOT a good dancer. TALENT WON NOT popularity
Even her lyrics don’t do it for me. Maybe I’m not “holding space” for them the right way. 😂 Idk. I respect her because she’s very unique (in my opinion). She stands out a lot - especially in the era she blew up in. Her influence is very visible today with newer artists. Personally, she’s just never gagged me before. 🤷♀️
Not just that but if we’re talking impact, Beyoncé literally shook up the industry with her surprise album, that shit made musical history, then she came out with lemonade and popularised the visual album, but culture wise Beyoncé’s impact is unmatched, Bootylicious is actually in the dictionary, Lemonade braids was literally a thing, from disco attire skyrocketing during the RWT, to western attire skyrocketing cos of Cowboy Carter, Beyoncé is also the most referenced female, almost every female in that top 20 has referenced Beyoncé as their inspiration in some way shape or form. Also in hip hop, drake has a song named after her, lil durk has a song named after her, pusha t, lil Wayne, Andre3000, 50cent have all name dropped her. Kendrick said she’s the greatest vocalist of this generation. I can’t name another female in the game that has this kind of cultural impact. Her influence has always been insane and dominant.
@ So true!
One phrase: BEYchella
She will never be ICONIC, she is Just a récord breaker with annoying fans
hi, Hardcore Swiftie here, Beyonce deserves that number 1 spot no matter what. I love my tay tay but Beyonce is a goddess. Her music and her energy is so vast and epic. Her performances and vocal ability is insane and she was in destiny's child. period. deserved spot. IN MY OPINIONN
I hate that Stifties don’t get why billboard chose Beyoncé.
They literally said in their article for Beyoncé that Taylor is better by far, but they chose the first spot for the former based on their staff's views so..
@@vlks6610no, what they said is though taylor has sold more, she hasn't had the cultural impact beyonce has. Please sharpen your reading skills.
@@vlks6610lmao! Delulu!!!!! Is that you??? 😂
Do you also hate the Beyonce fans who don't get why Billboard chose Swift as number 2?
In no way, shape or form Taylor should be above Beyoncé in any “greatest” list. Ever. Taylor is great at what she does, and her numbers are unmatched, but in general, Beyoncé is a better artist. She’s indeed untouchable. And we should celebrate that a black woman is #1. She deserves it for all she did in the past 24 years. Tbh out of all the top 10, I think Beyoncé, Gaga and Adele are the ones that we can actually count as the greatest >worldwide< speaking and not just US. Their impact on pop culture worldwide is legendary and lasting, and the fact that they’re still active is just awesome!
THANK YOU! So many Swifties seem to mainly care about the numbers they’re both pulling. That doesn’t matter much, compared to the artistry alone. It’s the ART that matters! Beyoncé produces the best (musical) art (and performances) of this century. Period, point, blank. In my opinion, Taylor doesn’t even come in 2nd (regarding artistry).
@@astoldbynickgerryup
@@astoldbynickgerrart is subjective so your entire point is moot
It just bothers me sooo much how unfair people are treating her! Her music isnt just music anymore! It tells stories, it breaks standards and stigmas, its inspired by manyyy other great great artists....while taylor write about break ups or love stories! Like I genuinely will never understand the comparisons, like ever!!!! And also the hate from the Black community as well... like Lord she dedicated the GIFT to bllack people and took a serious topic and made it into the art, to point out the struggles of this community.... and why did she even get hate for that???
I guess for people POP Music its just basic songs with a catchy beat....they dont wanna deep topics
You’re really stupid if you think Taylor just sings about breakups. Her songs have more meaning and depth than anything anyone has written for Beyoncé
Saying this as nonconfrontational as possible- Could you provide some examples, I would like to listen to them. Which would you say hit the same messaging/cultural commentary and depth on par with Beyonce's lemonade album, for example. Or her black is king album both visual and lyrical. Again, im genuinely curious about your perspective here @NYHaole
@ since you’re so loud and wrong, do your own research before commenting things that aren’t true. Clearly you don’t know anything about Taylor , her music her message but yet you decided to post that comment. If you truly cared and wanted to compare the two artists you would have already on some the research and known the songs I’m talking about. Btw beyonces “cultural impact” is basically just for POC. Taylor’s impact if for anyone who wants to be part of it.
@@NYHaole I think ts songs are for white people the most just like her fans are more white
@@NYHaoleIs her “impact for anyone” on the planet with us right now? 🤔
It’s so sad how even a artist like Beyonce who worked her asss off since she was a literal child always seems like she has to prove something because these people will never be happy no matter how long and hard she has worked..
Thanks for bringing up PINK that’s an icon! And you was eatting the vocals to ole girls music.
Thank you for bringing Pink to the conversation, that woman can sing, produce, perform, dance and do acrobatics like no other of her white counterparts, and gets pay dust A LOT.
Well Beyoncé deserved that number 1 spot. She been working for almost 30 years into her career.
Beyonce is a once in a generation talent. Taylor Swift is a popular phenomenon buttressed by whiteness. As the late great Aretha Franklin once said about Taylor; it's still beautiful gowns and dresses for me!
When you say whiteness I don’t understand. She is popular not in Africa but in the western world where 80 % of the people is white. People identifies with her.
😂this comment ended me lol
Her gowns and looks are not even that good Aretha was being nice lol
@ hhahahah yall are killing me man hahhhaha
@gasp1gasp1 exactly lol 😂
As a fan of taylors music I feel her poetic writing, her consistency, her creative ideas, & her numbers definitely makes her #2 spot realistic and deserved. Now i’m not part of the beyhive but I can say Beyoncé is vocally stronger, the better performer, and has more years on taylor. So her being #1 honestly shouldn’t be upsetting. The two are very different & really shouldn’t be compared if you ask me.
And even if Beyoncé didn’t have the years on Taylor she’d still be #1 that is a once in a lifetime talent
@ I just said she’s a way better performer and vocalist didn’t I. Meaning even with out the extra years she’s still very much more talented. Your comment wasn’t really necessary I already stated that myself.
Exactly! How I see it, Beyoncé is under the category with Janet, Tina Turner, etc. Meanwhile, I would categorize Taylor with Carole King, Carly Simon, etc. Regardless, they are both amazing in what they do! Love these two greats!
@@serenap7631 calm down it was just extra emphasis on what you stated lool. Also don’t comment if you’re easily angered over nothing
@ who’s angry boo ? people like you are the reason these “stans” always going at it somebody give your idol props it’s still not enough, there’s no need for extra emphasis i gave her her credit already.
The fact that Taylor even gets compared to a Beyoncé or Michael Jackson is a HUGE SIDE EYE . YT mediocrity wins again ..
Taylor Swift has dominated the music scene ever since she stepped into it. And is still going strong after a decade. That is a huge accomplishment.! Taylor and Beyonce were literally at each other’s movie concert movie premieres.! They celebrated each other’s successes. The hate is so unnecessary.! Taylor isn’t known for performing which is obvious. She’s known for her storytelling. She’s always gotten radio play and her “Love Story” and “You Belong with Me” songs went huge.! And she’s always uplifting other women. She has collabed with Ice Spice and she boosted up Sabrina Carpenter’s career.
You not getting it doesn't affect her actual value.
You sound stupid. If you can’t see her songwriting ability that is on you. This is not a racial thing. This is a stupidity thing.
@@twilightfades_7 This whole comment misses the point. Yes, these things are all great but say nothing about her as a performer. That is the issue. As the creator said, in terms of white artists, it would make more sense for Beyonce to be compared to Madonna or hell even P!nk who doesn't get nearly enough of her flowers. Yes, Taylor is an excellent songwriter but she is a mediocre performer and I will stop you before you come with the numbers of her tour. Yes, her stans are rabid and very supportive but that still doesn't change the fact that she stomps awkwardly across the stage and shimmies a lot, often times off-key for three hours. That is NOT a great performer and this is what this discussion is truly about.
Beyoncé not only gives the girls HELL with her beauty, but is the greatest female performer of this generation, she’s THE BAR that EVERY female is compared to, she made history and basically popularised the surprise album drop with self titled, she created the visual album with Lemonade, she has broken tour records countless times, is the most awarded artist after Michael Jackson, she’s the tribute queen, has been vouched for by all of the older legends, is the most referenced female in the industry, 8 Consecutive number 1 albums, EVERY STAN GROUP HATES BEYONCÉ BECAUSE SHES BEEN THAT GIRL SINCE SHE WAS 16! Gotta remember they also hate that Beyoncé has the traditional life their fav doesn’t, been with one man her whole career, engaged, married, then kids only after marriage, also add to that her husband is the wealthiest musician to date. Beyoncé has it ALL, and they hate her for it, she’s the female Kendrick. Taylor is Drake.
Not “ female entertainer”. Entertainer in general. No man is seeing her on stage either. Period
TAYLOR IS DRAAAKE
Loveeee you for this comment
I was with you until you compared them to Kendrick and Drake. Some of Drake’s music is actually good especially his earlier music. Kendrick seems forced to a degree. Beyoncé on the other hand is not forced like her haters try to make it seem. Taylor’s music isn’t good. Yes, she’s talented….as well as many other people and yes she writes songs well, but is the music good? Not really. Britney’s music was actually good as well as Pink and Gaga and even Katy Perry’s early 2010’s music.
@@truthspoken8567 I completely agree.!
I get so thrilled whenever Zach pops up on my feed with a new video. Like his energy is unmatched ♥
Agreed❤
Beyoncé is very hardworking, she inspires me to have that work ethic. I love how she cares about what she’s doing and I wish people would appreciate her more 💯
Taylor is a Hardworking too
Just history repeating itself sadly… This same thing happened with Michael Jackson when he was deemed, and globally regarded as The King Of Pop, and #1 (a Title he WORKED HARD from since the age of 5 for) and he outsold his “Caucasian” predecessors: Elvis, and The Beatles etc., AND not to mention the fact that he OWNED The Beatles entire music catalog! The fact that this was a black man achieving all of these things in such a very short period of time, is what irked, upset, and threatened a lot of ppl. Hence people calling him a weirdo, a pdf file, “Wacko Jacko”… etc. People couldn’t come to the realization and/or accept that a black could transcend the limitations, and expectations placed upon him, and the same thing can be said today sadly! Though both Bey, and Tay are talented and successful in both their own rights, and have blazed their own trails, Race is still a pointless, yet prevalent thing even today 🙏🏽
Mmmmmm i Hope Beyonces legacy is ruined by these allegations like Michael Jackson’s was
I’m so glad to finally hear someone say what I’ve been saying this entire time! Thank you!!
What do you mean? People stay hating on taylor swift like it's their full-time job
Man look NOBODY living is as Great as Beyoncé. Beyoncé is the epitome of excellence!!! She is in a new class of excellence.
beyoncé hasn’t updated, she’s ALWAYS had good numbers idk where you got she didn’t from, beyoncé does not update her certifications or care to because she’s BEYONCÉ she doesn’t have to update to prove something, i mean she’s already a billionaire (we all know she is she hasn’t updated that 500m dollar net worth in like a decade) so she isn’t required to and doesn’t have to update stats to show how rich she is, if we being so fr rn taylor swift only selling as much as she is because she’s literally re-released majority of her catalog from past years and because of that, she’s able to just release like 4 albums a year, so if you constantly release multiple times a year (with every album having MULTIPLE versions) you’re bound to get pushed more because of your discography, and with the right tactics and marketing, anyone can be a taylor swift. imagine if beyoncé decided to re-release all her stuff and spam versions of one album and one song, them sales would be unmatched.
i mean, considering tay’s most recent album had 4 VERSIONS OF THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT RELEASED ON THE FIRST DAY THE ALBUM CAME OUT, THEM NUMBERS BETTERRRRRR BE THROUGH THE ROOF BECAUSE IF NOT THATS JUST CRAZY, what if beyoncé did that with cowboy carter or renaissance?? both would’ve got 1M - 2M first week.
and this is no hate by the way, i love taylor she’s one of my favorite artist and 1989 is probably one of my favorite albums but i’m not delusional, she only holds strength in song writing, and that is the reason why i enjoy her music because the way she’s able to tell stories so well with her words is insane.
(PS, halo and crazy in love, most likely more, should be eligible for diamond.)
With paid+subjective articles by Paid Z? LMAO!!! Well, Objectively, Taylor Swift already ranked #1 for Billboard’s Top Artists Of The Century and #4 for Billboard's Top Artists Of All Time, Billboard’s Top #10 Greatest Songwriter Of All Time, Billboard Woman Of The Decade.
Tour: Taylor>Bey
Sales+Streams: Taylor>Bey
Charts: Taylor>Bey
Cultural+Global+Economy Impact: Taylor>Bey
@@romirosta1917 and it took taylor how long to reach this commercial peak? i wouldn’t call myself a swiftie but i’m most definitely a taylor fan, and i can say she has not always been this big, as i said she didn’t become this level of successful until she started re-releasing, taylor has always been very popular and a globally known artist, but this is a new peak.
beyoncé has more cultural impact and influence than taylor.
taylor’s performances will NOT be remembered by anyone besides her fans, beyoncé’s performances from decades ago are still talked about and known till this day, hence why she’s the queen of performing.
singing = beyoncé
dancing = beyoncé
performing = beyoncé
awards = beyoncé
rankings = beyoncé
iconic moments = beyoncé
cultural influence and impact = beyoncé
overall TALENT = beyoncé.
bey is so talented she can be compared to the likes of micheal jackson, whitney houston, mariah carey, etc, the same cant and will never be said for taylor.
@ Don’t you remember when Taylor Swift was only 18 years old, she beat hasbeyn to win Grammy Album Of The Year with Fearless Album(The most awarded country album of all time)
Talent:
Vocal: Beyonce
Dancing: Beyonce
Songwriting: Taylor
Producing: Taylor
Directing: Taylor
Multi-Instrumentalist: Taylor (Electric/Acoustic Guitar, Piano, Banjo, etc.)
Poet+Storyteller: Taylor
Acclaim+Awards: Taylor
Tour: Taylor
Sales+Streams: Taylor
Net Worth: Taylor
Cultural+Global+Economy Impact: Taylor Swift
@@romirosta1917 name one CULTURALLY significant thing taylor has done, because beyoncé is basically a staple for black people all around the world and has inspired almost every artist that came after her, including taylor herself.
you’re saying directing, and producing.. taylor isn’t that good at that, her best music videos are willow, cardagain, love story, and fortnight, which fortnight isn’t that good but i digress.
most awarded artist of time: beyoncé (700+)
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singing: beyoncé
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dancing: beyoncé
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performing: beyoncé
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cultural influence and impact: beyoncé
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accolades: beyoncé
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iconic moments: beyoncé
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longevity: beyoncé
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beyoncé’s net worth with her husband: 1.5B + ( bey is likely a billionaire, she just hasn’t updated her net worth yet, if she does their total worth will be over 2B.)
without re-releases, taylor and beyoncé are tied in total #1 albums. (10 each)
without re-releases, beyoncé has more #1 songs than taylor, bey has 13, while taylor has 11.
taylor and beyoncé have both sold over 200m records worldwide wide so there’s no telling who really sold more until both artist fully update their catalog.
and if beyoncé went on tour for longer she would have grossed more than taylor, but she has a family and a life, so she chose not to do that.
COMPLETELY AGREEED! taylor swift is a songwriter. the general public has never looked at her as a "powerhouse vocalist" or even "a stellar entertainer" yet when anybody mentioned beyonce it was questions about what song she's killing, what crazy choreography she's doing, what cool thing she's wearing - aka everything a POP STAR should get you excited for. we often look at beyonce to push the envelope yet accept the bare minimum from taylor.
"I know Pink sick of flippng" i HOLLERED 🤣
The reason the Beyoncé vs Taylor Swift conversation started is because of sales/numbers. People who felt like Beyoncé is overrated saw that Beyoncé was being outsold by Taylor and then started that. It was like, “Wait…Taylor is outselling Beyoncé, so ooooo, maybe she’s better than Beyoncé.” To ME, a BETTER comparison, that makes more sense, would be Beyoncé vs Lady Gaga.
Beyoncé is still overrated
@@ZAYA.21white girl can't sing at all
That’s the most annoying thing, Beyoncé has worked so hard to be where she is. To me, there is no comparison between Beyoncé and Taylor. Beyoncé always has and always will be number 1. I’ve loved her since ‘no,no,no’ days and no one since has been close. I’ve seen Beyoncè live 4 times and her voice never fails to bring me to tears. I can’t see anyone in the future surpassing her in all categories. She is literally the bar ❤
I think people read too much into the comparisons, the only reason she’s compared is because she’s one of the only female artists still active in the music industry who more successful. There’s a very short list of artists who are THAT successful. Toxic stans just take it too far.
That doesn't mean she's number 1 for everybody
You don’t know how hard Taylor works
@@hakimnelson-wilder6266 True, but I think after all the years Beyoncé has been around and maintaining such a high level it's a bit cheeky to be shocked she's number 1.
But obviously, this is just my opinion, I'm not taking it away from anyone or their thought process
my question is why are they comparing their white artists to Black artists, Taylor Swift has nothing on Beyonce Vocally and her Stage Presence. The thing that P'ed me off the most is them saying Taylor Swift is better than Michael Jackson. White people annoy my Soul sometimes
As a swiftie, I am constantly embarrassed by my fellow swiftie fans. I love Taylor and her work, but when I saw Beyonce got number one, it is well earned. She's the best of the best no one tops her. Sorry, not sorry. I just wish fandoms and stans weren't so freaking toxic.
I keep thinking why to people care so much about this? I doubt Taylor or Beyonce are losing sleep over this list 😂
“as a swiftie” 🤡 you won’t get a cookie for this
Fr fr, you don't have to be a swiftie to understand that Taylor is better and bigger than Beyoncé, thus more successful overall in 99/100 of the criteria
@francesco3089 not looking for a cookie babes.
@vlks6610 that's not my take on the situation, while I love taylor I think billboard made the right call on naming Beyonce number one
They’re not even in the same stratosphere let alone the same conversation.
Don’t you remember when Taylor Swift was only 18 years old, she beat hasbeyn to win Grammy Album Of The Year with Fearless Album(The most awarded country album of all time)
Talent:
Vocal: Beyonce
Dancing: Beyonce
Songwriting: Taylor
Producing: Taylor
Directing: Taylor
Multi-Instrumentalist: Taylor (Electric/Acoustic Guitar, Piano, Banjo, etc.)
Poet+Storyteller: Taylor
Acclaim+Awards: Taylor
Tour: Taylor
Sales+Streams: Taylor
Net Worth: Taylor
Cultural+Global+Economy Impact: Taylor Swift
Exactly, Bey is just better at dancing and in vocals, but Taylor's numbers are astronomically higher than Bey's for the later to be 1
Correct❤
Ridiculous comment. Look at Taylor Swift’s net worth. People want to continuously discredit Taylor. Beginning with Kanye West and just hating on her. She’s had huge songs especially when she first broke out. And the music and consistency and her relationship with her fans, it’s contributed to her Massive Success. And her being with Travis Kelce. She is Up There and it’s a shame she isn’t being given her flowers.
Beyoncé is a vocalist, songwriter, producer, dancer, the biggest female performer in history, she's always evolving with each project she makes, SHE IS A COMPLETE ARTIST, that's why y'all are jealous of her, ALSO let's be reminded that she collaborates and share her space with up-and-coming artists
Beyonce is no songwriter not producer do stop lying. Everyone knows she doesn't write, compose, or produce.
Zach, PLEASE, let’s do a Beyoncé throwback reaction series!! We need to sit down and do an album by album reaction. Yes - I said it. Album by album 🙂↕️🙂↕️🙂↕️
Ikr!!! Listening to his also made me wanna do a Beyoncé marathon!
i went back to bday (when I became a fan) had me a good ol time! i really miss her visuals :(
Couple things:
1) I feel like Missy was one of the first to really acknowledge & support Beyonce as a solo artist and she should get her flowers for that.
2) It is obviously a race thing but kudos to those that can acknowledge the talent/success of both artists. I'm not a Swifty at ALL but I respect her. It's a shame some folks can't uplift one of them without tearing down the other, and I appreciate this video for highlighting that.
Very true.!!
Yet the video is 99% of people bringing down taylor swift
This is the earliest I've clocked in, heyyyy boo, this top you're wearing is everythingggg
I hate that people keep comparing them. They are doing different things and each super successful. I like both
man i needed to hear this today - on my lunch break at work wondering why i can’t get any recognition or promotion for my amazing work and then hearing “Even Beyonce gets questioned” being a black women ain’t easy man!!!!
You are recognized by the one that matters : the lord Jesus Christ and God himself! Although physical recognition is nice…
Keep going boo!! ❤
Can I just say that I cried laughing at “weeEEEEE are never ever everrrrr getting back together” twirl 😢😂bc insanity!
I hate that Taylor gets mentioned in the same sentence as Beyonce. It's an injustice. Taylor's only flex is her song writing, but even in that, she's not number one, because Adele, Sia, Florence Welch, BANKS, Lykke Li, Lana Del Rey... These are just some of the contemporary white women who out-write Taylor Swift. Her pen isn't even the best among other white women. She is entirely mediocre.
I agree with every artist you listed! Honestly they always get overlooked. I have them all on my playlists and they dominated the music charts and were trending. But I think to not have Taylor on the list at all isn’t fair either. Taylor has demonstrated longevity. She found a way to dominate in pop and folk music. Not many people can still stay relevant as long. Her music is very emblematic. She’s very into the storytelling. I mean her career began with “Love Story” and “You Belong with Me”. She likes the theatrics of a love story. Her themes have always been about that. And when I want to reflect and think, her music is very that. Reminds of snuggling and reading a good book. She even made a song for The Hunger Games soundtrack. And it’s the symbolism that she always shows in her music.
My mom is Gen X so she watched Beyoncé grow and we know that older generation can be iffy towards her. But she went to the renaissance show and she came back to tell me she understood why she has that tier. My mom told me how the show captivated her and All I could do was laugh like Miss girl I been knew 🤣😂
As a fan of both, but way more a Swiftie, the Beyonce #1 in this feels correct. They are two completely different artists. Both are absolute legends on what they do, period!
There is, however, a bit of going overboard for both fanbases. To categorize Taylor as mediocre is undermine her accomplishments, she's big and has made a movement of regenerating her fandom through ages like I've never seen before, no other artist alive today has been capable of doing that. On the other side, to question Beyonce #1 in this, is just being delusional, she's on another level, artistically speaking, and that's that.
I hate this discourse because it’s so tiring. It really doesn’t matter what anyone says or how many hate posts they make, Beyoncé is and always will be the standard. If she’s such a “flop” why keep comparing her to your favs? 😭
Tell that to all the people on here hating on swift
I remember reading the charts in the back of billboard mag. when I was a preteen in early 2010s. Run the world all over top 40. FIFTEEN years later and Beyoncé still on them. Bey has truly charted her own path leaving space for nobody and everybody in her wake. A true legend.
4:00 it's also worth considering that when Beyoncé came up, the contemporaries were Britney, Christina, Brandy, etc... Mariah, Céline, Janet, Whitney were not in their prime but still releasing successful albums... like baby, you had to have an easily observable TALENT! Even Britney was questioned every step of the way, yet if you compare her performances to Taylor's...🤐
Why do y’all say Beyonce isn’t a numbers girls ? She’s one of the best selling females ever , one of !
23 minutes of FACTS 👏👏👏👏
With paid+subjective articles by Paid Z? LMAO!!! Well, Objectively, Taylor Swift already ranked #1 for Billboard’s Top Artists Of The Century and #4 for Billboard's Top Artists Of All Time, Billboard’s Top #10 Greatest Songwriter Of All Time, Billboard Woman Of The Decade.
Tour: Taylor>Bey
Sales+Streams: Taylor>Bey
Charts: Taylor>Bey
Cultural+Global+Economy Impact: Taylor>Bey
@ aaaaw you’re so cute, just like Taylor 😂😘
11:43 THISSS I have no idea why people have such selective outrage when it comes to Beyonce like it’s inasane how even the internet makes up their narratives of this woman who really minds her business it’s like they want a reason to hate her she will always be know as an icon.
When I think of Pop Star impact I do not think of Taylor Swift in the top 10 at all. I feel like monumental pop stars of the 21st century that changed pop culture for life are who should be in the top 10 outside of just sales. And to me Beyonce, Rihanna, Lady Gaga and Britney Spears are artists that truly have cultivated an image and a sound that will last a lifetime to the point that people today even try to mimic their sounds and artistry. Taylor Swift is undeniably successful and has a historical catalog but I don't feel like outside of her success and power that she's one of the top 10 greatest popstars of the 21st century. Maybe top 20.
With paid+subjective articles by paid Z? LMAO!!! Well, Objectively, Taylor Swift already ranked #1 for Billboard’s Top Artists Of The Century and #4 for Billboard's Top Artists Of All Time, Top #10 Greatest Songwriter Of All Time, Billboard Woman Of The Decade
Tour: Taylor>Bey
Sales+Streams: Taylor>Bey
Charts: Taylor>Bey
Cultural+Global Impact: Taylor>Bey
@@romirosta1917 You sound like a delusional cat , go with the hippy guitar girl and enjoy mediocre :)
@Timome The comment makes no sense, when Taylor Swift has been releasing new music consistently. Especially the past decade.!
@Timome The comment makes no sense, when Taylor Swift has been releasing new music consistently. Especially the past decade.!
@ she hasn’t been out aslong as Beyoncé …
THAT'S WHAT I SAY, Beyoncé is a living legend, while Taylor is just a good songwriter who is white and makes music for her generic fans, Beyoncé makes music for herselft and for the art of it.
Who are you to say that Taylor doesn’t make music for art and herself? That is simply not true. Taylor has the passion and she puts a lot of thought and dedication to her projects. That’s why they continue to succeed. I’m not a hardcore fan of Taylor, but she’s always finding inventive ways to market her music and keeps it relevant. And she’s always been consistent in highlighting her prior and current successes.
@twilightfades_7 we have to stop pretending she currently does interesting music, every aspect of her latest project is dull
I like that Zach didn’t just speak on the Bey Tay comparisons, but he also highlighted Bey’s media/public scrutiny since the early 00s. At the end of the day, I’m proud of Queen Bey, and she deserves this moment. I actually wish Nicki was as private and “unbothered” as Bey at least sometimes
10:05 imo she's only big because she makes mediocre women feel empowered because it isn't anything outstanding that she's giving.
Well, if anything Taylor is so big because every generation and all kinds of people listen to her songs. There is something for everyone in her discography.
This is it
I love that all they bring you is numbers on the Swifite side but the impact, the respect, the talent, the innovation is just not there. Beyoncé’s influence is just going to get richer with time
I was literally playing Irreplaceable, then you popped up on my notifications, lol.....
Yesssss! This is the talk you needed to do. I'm already getting tired of the hate on Beyoncé. Like at this point they trying to find something small to bring her down in the industry
And the fact that the first thing the Swifties resorted to after Taylor was announced 2nd was racism against Beyoncé, Blue and her fans … SAYS ALOT
Taylor is great at what she does, she's a great songwriter and even better storyteller. She gives big budget production from her tours, to music, etc. But comparing her to the greatest black entertainers isn't fair. We have to work twice as hard to get half of what they have. We have to come in the door being THE FULL PACKAGE!
i couldn't agree more. i'm a big swiftie, i love taylor's music and songwriting so much. but truthfully, nobody could ever touch beyoncé and her artistry & legacy. single ladies (put a ring on it) was my first ever favorite song, like- since i was learning how to walk she has always been that girl to me. nobody is on her level, she really made her own lane in this industry. it was very disheartening (but sadly not surprising) to see so many swifties spread so much racism to beyoncé. like zach said- this girl doesn't do anything to anyone and yet she still gets an unnecessary amount of hate for zero reason.
“I felt poor” 💀🤣🤣🤣
Not a major Beyonce fan but I can still recognize her excellence and Queendom. Taylor is still in her junior or senior year as a Princess.
The title is straight facts💯 #Loveyou♥️
lol that “never ever everrhhhhh” 9:07 😂😂part took me out
Isn’t it kind of normal for someone so extremely popular and so well liked and who is super talented and successful, to have a lot of haters? It’s sad but reality
TELL THEM ZACH!!!!
Ppl always compare numbers… buuuut let’s compare resumes. Iconic Star Spangled Banner, Iconic Super Bowl Halftime shows, movies, headlining the Oscars, Peer-to-Peer Influence, Shifting cultures & trends, Iconic MTV performances, Iconic CMA performance, Iconic BET performances, Inauguration, Iconic Pepsi commercials, Iconic Coachella, Iconic choreography, Iconic girl group… liiiiike the proof is in the pudding.
The actual second should be Lady Gags! What other artists has revolutionized pop culture like her? Michael Jackson, Madonna and Beyoncé!
Beyoncé only made stealing ideas and lip syncing mainstream
What other artist revolutionized pop culture? Ummm Britney Spears!!!!??? She was A Pop Culture Phenomenon! Britney Spears was Pop Culture all on her own! She revolutionized and changed it as well 🙏🏽
Firstly Zach I love the sweater!
This video let's me know that Chloe Bailey is exactly where she need to be, she just gotta keep working and disregard the hate!
Mediocrity is excellence to the incompetent. Let that settle in. 👑🐝
The way I hollered when Zach hit that 'WeeeHeeee Are Never Ever Everrr' part (with the dance moves too)... Are we still using scrumpt?! Because I'm certain there was a scream I scrumpt at that exact moment! Woooo Chileeeee LOL
Honestly going through a break up and listening to Taylor was what helped me understand why she’s great. You gotta be in situational depression. (Beyoncé is still better)
Im sorry, but this made me laugh...happy healing ❤
Beyonce’s Lemonade album helped me with my marriage. That album was profound for committed relationships
Yeep Beyonce is still better
I listen to/prefer Billie Eilish when I wanna be sad. Or Lorde. Lana Del Rey…
Beyoncé is still overrated
I’m a card carrying beyhive member since ‘99 and I remember when people said Beyoncé should’ve died instead of Aaliyah!!!! I was fighting for my life.
16:38 Beyoncé LITERALLY said “if I gave two f**** about streaming numbers woulda put lemonade up on spotify”
Beyoncé chases art, Taylor chases numbers. It’s really that’s simple
THANK YOU FOR THROWING P!NK INTO THE CONVERSATION! I went to two of her concerts and these other girls could never!
Top 2 and ain’t #2… mother is a prophet. They can stay mad🤷🏽♀️😂 I agree the comparisons aren’t even valid and shouldn’t exist.
THE WAY YOU CLOCKED THAT TEAAAAAA THROUGH THIS ENTIRE VIDEO SPEAK IT!!!!!!! Ate!
BABY THIS VIDEO IS EVERYTHING. C’mon old school hive stats!
Spinning "Bodyguard" & "Be With You" to then get this notification...love it ❤
Michael Jackson is so much bigger than Beyoncé as an international phenomenon. I don’t see how you put them on the same level
It’s the impact not the popularity smh. I thought that was widely known
@masonambrose1093 Whether it's popularity or impact Michael is still way out of Beyonce's league
Nobody cares
yeah i wish people would STOP saying this🙄
@@tylerhartman3034 that’s why people say she’s the “closest thing” we have to Michael Jackson.
I think the comparison between Taylor and B isn’t fair in any way because it’s apples and oranges! Like Taylor is one of the biggest ever BECAUSE of how relatable her songs are to the world, and then B has always been unrelatable in the most iconic best QUEEN empowering way! Like I love them both to pieces but they offer entirely different things for me artistically and musically
I never thought of it like that, but you are so right
Beyoncé is still overrated
it’s always the swifties…
You forever have a fan in me! I RUN to your videos, I understand how frustrating it is to always be second-guessed about your greatness. Keep pushing, King!
This❤
TS is the dream and the hope for the musician and the old school boards/committees that grew up on Simon & Garfunkel, Paul McCartney and Joni Mitchell. She will always be the favor because she writes, she plays instruments and she does her own material. Very empowering, very impressive and beyond just her mere existence, she has middle America and well to do america by the handfuls. Politically, she's a doll. She's still after Beyonce. The comparsion, the idea that Beyonce is overrated is so tired. They're most likely basing that off of the reality that there are multiple songwriters and producers for her material comparable to TS, but the material, the standard and influence is on a totally different level from Beyonce. The hatred of BEyonce is not new, the north remembers it all started when she was the lead singer of DC, and was in overdrive the moment the 2 original members were booted from the group. The delulu was from that time too; imagine buying front row tickets just to put up a hater sign lol. make it make sense.
Not “the North remembers” 😂😂😂👌🏾
Beyoncé is still overrated
This video makes me feel so seen and understood as I deal with the plight of being a black woman every single day. Beyoncé deserves her flowers. That lemonade album and dialogue still has me unpacking trauma till this day !!! This was a really good video Zach.
If Beyonce was white, she would still be one of the greatest artists in pop history. With less people discrediting her. If Taylor was black she would not be famous.