@@qryy168 Im very happy with this controller I'm using it on my PC the most important thing to remember is make sure to read direction when changing button configuration I had a button get stuck had to use Gorilla tape to get the stuck button out🤣
same here lmao, its a huge upgrade from my old xbox one controller i used to use. its especially great since i can play with it on pc, switch, and on my phone without having to be constantly pairing
Pretty cool to see a Fellow Canadian glad we got Canadian prices I’m definitely gonna purchase one of these next week I hope need a new controller with paddles for my switch
Ha I didn't need one either but now that I've tried it, it's hard to go back to using my 8bitdo ultimate bluetooth. Boxed that one up and switched over to using these both as my main controllers (one on my PC and one for my TV dock). Did you order one?
@@KeiRetroGaming not yet, REALLY thinking about it though. I got my daughter an 8BitDo Ultimate C for her Switch. I’ve been a fan of the ultimates for the most part but hers has digital trigger which I really like bc I don’t play many games that really use the analog feature. The ultimate c has its positives (decent layout, price) and negatives (no paddle buttons, color choices are meh). The KK3 may be a bit more but it might be what I’m looking for… idk, we’ll see
Loved the KK2 Pro, really solid build quality and hall-effect sensors are something I always look for in my RC transmitters so back then when I heard the KK2 Pro uses them, I was instantly sold. Now the KK3 Max just gave me the perfect excuse to pass my KK2 Pro down to my tween daughter to go with her new laptop hehehe...
Very interested as it seems like it's got all the performance and features you get from the Xbox Elite 2, plus some. My only hang-up is the D-Pad, not sure how it would perform in 2D fighting games. Can you tell me what your experience has been so far using the D-Pad for fighting games like Street Fighter, KOF, MK, etc.?
RUclipsr GameTechTalk recently did a review of the new $25 GameSir T4 Nova Lite and said, or to be more accurate strongly implied, that it's actually a better controller than the KK3 Max he'd also reviewed recently. I have a Nova Lite on the way thanks to winning one from GameSir's launch livestream last week, so I'm interested in hearing from people who think that it's amazing. That part after the comma is a joke; but, I would be interested in your thoughts on the Nova Lite if you end up getting a review sample or something. On paper they should be very competitive with each other, even if you ignore the giant price differential. Hall sticks, Hall triggers, nice big buttons, etc.
I'll make sure to review that one if they reach out. As of right now I have about 25 controllers so I probably won't buy anymore for awhile. Sounds like a great value controller though for $25!
Honestly I ended up liking this controller even more than my Elite series 2. There are caveats with it like the longer paddles need to be closer to the bottom surface of the controller to be comfortable, the left stick made a grinding sound when pushing up while swiping left and right (eventually this went away), the triggers feel mushy, the rumble is not really great, and the firmware update removed turbo functionality from the paddles (you can roll back the firmware to restore paddle turbo). However, it’s very comfortable, the face and top shoulder buttons feel nice, battery life is excellent, the sticks are super smooth and precise (once the left stick grind eventually went away), and the turbo and macro function is a major game changer in the games I play
I almost bought this, but I realized beforehand that it doesn’t have a 3.5mm jack which is a real deal breaker for me. I’m glad I noticed beforehand, but also a little bummed they glossed over such a standard feature.
End game? Not even 4 months of owning my kk3 Max and my right thumbstick snapped. It's garbage now. Seems to be an issue with the kk3 max. Buyers beware
Yeah there seems to be a lot of QA issues, but if you dodge the 'Bad' ones you actually get the legit best controller you can ask for. I've had the KK2 for a year now, and never had issues with them minus the weird quirks that came with it. Grindy right Joystick, and a few times the switch mode button jammed, but it's been the best perfect experience I've had with a controller, with one fatal flaw of both models I had, white and black not having bluetooth working at all at some point, maybe gotta fix them with firmware idk. I've owned 360 controllers, PS3, and ofc XBOX One controllers. All of those minus the PS3 controllers I've had minus the damages I've manually done myself from slamming it as a child and taking off the rubber off of the joysticks aren't with me anymore. The PS3 controllers sidenote I've had for 13 years now... Crazy and it has no stickdrift, and mechanically functions new minus a rattle from internal. I do know they have hall effects in them though. Finally I gotta mention the Vader 3 Pro I have if you're thinking about it. It had centering issues that's my experience with it, other than that it didn't really have drift you just really have to make sure the sticks are centered, and it basically does everything the KK3 pro does, with the weight of the standard xbox one controller, so it feels more 'quality' at times. I hope this helps if you're looking for anything. So TLDR look into the Vader, or a PS3 controller, tbh, I think this market hasn't grown enough yet. I do know 8BITDO has a awesome option I am thinking of getting soon. I'll update this reply if you have any questions.
any controller realistically will work with steam input but the back buttons cant be remapped to anything other than on controller buttons or triggers. if you really want full key remapping including kbm ones buy an elite 2 and buy gulikits TMR replacement joysticks for xbox
i just bought this, nd im really confused about the USB, is the usb a bluetooth dongle ? cuz I cant see any bluetooth settings menu on W11 to pair the controller with .. im really confused.
Nope, just swap to the 2.4ghz USB mode on top, plug in the usb dongle and turn on the controller. That's all you need to do to connect it with the 2.4ghz adapter.
it had a pretty low polling rate of 125 when wired and sub 75 when bluetooth on average iirc so yes in comparison its pretty slow. tho if you arent doing anything that intensive it most likely wont matter
@@Se_Goobergo for the apex 4 instead. i play apex. mainly the only fps game i play on steam. that controller is just smooth. it’s something else. slap linear with it. you’ll feel what i’m saying when you actually use it
I bought the controller to use the gyro on my pc. If I use the windowsmode (wired or with the dongle) I can only map gyro on the controller and it simulates stick movements. That's pretty bad and not fun to use. I can however use the controller wired and in switch mode and get full gyro compatibilty but then I loose the analog triggers. I also have a lot of problems with connecting the controller. Overall it is a nice controller but it has a lot of flaws that don't get talked about in reviews like this one.
I have this controller and it's noooot so great. The cons: -The triggers and bumpers have a bad feel and ergonomics compared to original xbox -Battery life is not so good -The + and - are your start and select buttons no matter what and they are awkwardly placed
Very good replacement for the Xbox Elite V1. You'll be very happy with it I think. I've essentially replaced all my controllers with this. I have the black one at my tv for when I dock my Ally and the grey one at my desktop.
had mine since 10th Feb and my back paddles are getting stuck after pressing them in now. I do not recommend this controller because of this. So disappointing as the rest of the controller is 10/10
why do people test input delay using software on their PC? That's literally not how it works. Your PC has no idea when you press the button prior to your input registering. All the software does is measure the polling rate and base your input delay off that. The most reliable way to measure input delay is to use a high-speed camera and measure the time between button press and your input being detected on your monitor. this will also include the input delay of your monitor but that doesn't matter as long as you use the same monitor per controller, just mark the descrepencies between them. or juts flat out measure the input delay of you monitor and subtract that from the controllers final score.
Gonna be entirely honest here, you shouldn’t be allowed to make a review of a pro controller if you don’t use the back buttons/paddles. Usually it wouldn’t matter that much, but the bottom paddle sticks waaaaau off the shell of the controller.
There's no clear instructions on how to update. No controller app. Mine bricked after attempted firmware update. Sending this back to Amazon for refund. Trash product
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Just purchased this controller I'm happy with it so far!!
Great to hear you like the controller so far! Which color did you go for?
how is it so far?
@@qryy168 Im very happy with this controller I'm using it on my PC the most important thing to remember is make sure to read direction when changing button configuration I had a button get stuck had to use Gorilla tape to get the stuck button out🤣
same here lmao, its a huge upgrade from my old xbox one controller i used to use. its especially great since i can play with it on pc, switch, and on my phone without having to be constantly pairing
I've read they usually have QC issues I hope when I get mine I get a good unit
Pretty cool to see a Fellow Canadian glad we got Canadian prices I’m definitely gonna purchase one of these next week I hope need a new controller with paddles for my switch
… you know I don’t NEED a new controller… why’d you do this?
lol great review as always Kei 👍
Ha I didn't need one either but now that I've tried it, it's hard to go back to using my 8bitdo ultimate bluetooth. Boxed that one up and switched over to using these both as my main controllers (one on my PC and one for my TV dock). Did you order one?
@@KeiRetroGaming not yet, REALLY thinking about it though. I got my daughter an 8BitDo Ultimate C for her Switch. I’ve been a fan of the ultimates for the most part but hers has digital trigger which I really like bc I don’t play many games that really use the analog feature.
The ultimate c has its positives (decent layout, price) and negatives (no paddle buttons, color choices are meh). The KK3 may be a bit more but it might be what I’m looking for… idk, we’ll see
Loved the KK2 Pro, really solid build quality and hall-effect sensors are something I always look for in my RC transmitters so back then when I heard the KK2 Pro uses them, I was instantly sold. Now the KK3 Max just gave me the perfect excuse to pass my KK2 Pro down to my tween daughter to go with her new laptop hehehe...
Very interested as it seems like it's got all the performance and features you get from the Xbox Elite 2, plus some. My only hang-up is the D-Pad, not sure how it would perform in 2D fighting games. Can you tell me what your experience has been so far using the D-Pad for fighting games like Street Fighter, KOF, MK, etc.?
The dpad has been solid so far but I haven't used it for any fighting games specifically.
This controller looks amazing
RUclipsr GameTechTalk recently did a review of the new $25 GameSir T4 Nova Lite and said, or to be more accurate strongly implied, that it's actually a better controller than the KK3 Max he'd also reviewed recently. I have a Nova Lite on the way thanks to winning one from GameSir's launch livestream last week, so I'm interested in hearing from people who think that it's amazing. That part after the comma is a joke; but, I would be interested in your thoughts on the Nova Lite if you end up getting a review sample or something. On paper they should be very competitive with each other, even if you ignore the giant price differential. Hall sticks, Hall triggers, nice big buttons, etc.
Nova lite doesn't have back buttons and trigger stops.
I'll make sure to review that one if they reach out. As of right now I have about 25 controllers so I probably won't buy anymore for awhile. Sounds like a great value controller though for $25!
Honestly I ended up liking this controller even more than my Elite series 2. There are caveats with it like the longer paddles need to be closer to the bottom surface of the controller to be comfortable, the left stick made a grinding sound when pushing up while swiping left and right (eventually this went away), the triggers feel mushy, the rumble is not really great, and the firmware update removed turbo functionality from the paddles (you can roll back the firmware to restore paddle turbo). However, it’s very comfortable, the face and top shoulder buttons feel nice, battery life is excellent, the sticks are super smooth and precise (once the left stick grind eventually went away), and the turbo and macro function is a major game changer in the games I play
I almost bought this, but I realized beforehand that it doesn’t have a 3.5mm jack which is a real deal breaker for me. I’m glad I noticed beforehand, but also a little bummed they glossed over such a standard feature.
End game? Not even 4 months of owning my kk3 Max and my right thumbstick snapped. It's garbage now. Seems to be an issue with the kk3 max. Buyers beware
Yeah there seems to be a lot of QA issues, but if you dodge the 'Bad' ones you actually get the legit best controller you can ask for. I've had the KK2 for a year now, and never had issues with them minus the weird quirks that came with it. Grindy right Joystick, and a few times the switch mode button jammed, but it's been the best perfect experience I've had with a controller, with one fatal flaw of both models I had, white and black not having bluetooth working at all at some point, maybe gotta fix them with firmware idk. I've owned 360 controllers, PS3, and ofc XBOX One controllers. All of those minus the PS3 controllers I've had minus the damages I've manually done myself from slamming it as a child and taking off the rubber off of the joysticks aren't with me anymore. The PS3 controllers sidenote I've had for 13 years now... Crazy and it has no stickdrift, and mechanically functions new minus a rattle from internal. I do know they have hall effects in them though. Finally I gotta mention the Vader 3 Pro I have if you're thinking about it. It had centering issues that's my experience with it, other than that it didn't really have drift you just really have to make sure the sticks are centered, and it basically does everything the KK3 pro does, with the weight of the standard xbox one controller, so it feels more 'quality' at times. I hope this helps if you're looking for anything. So TLDR look into the Vader, or a PS3 controller, tbh, I think this market hasn't grown enough yet. I do know 8BITDO has a awesome option I am thinking of getting soon. I'll update this reply if you have any questions.
If you got it under warranty, it's an easy fix.
It's $50 in my country so it's a steal for me lol probably the best controller i ever used..
Nice review, thanks!
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Can you tell me, does it work with steam-input/reWASD and allow you to use both gyro and remap all 4 back buttons?
any controller realistically will work with steam input but the back buttons cant be remapped to anything other than on controller buttons or triggers. if you really want full key remapping including kbm ones buy an elite 2 and buy gulikits TMR replacement joysticks for xbox
How is facebutton feeling? Is it like 8bitdo ultimate or like ds5?
can u play driving games using gyro fot steering
i currently have a scuf instinct pro with stick drift... i kind of want to order this but am afraid i wont like it as much as the scuf.
i got aim controller dualsense and since i got my kingkong 3 max ,never looked back at dualsense :D
does this have trigger vibration?
i just bought this, nd im really confused about the USB, is the usb a bluetooth dongle ? cuz I cant see any bluetooth settings menu on W11 to pair the controller with .. im really confused.
Nope, just swap to the 2.4ghz USB mode on top, plug in the usb dongle and turn on the controller. That's all you need to do to connect it with the 2.4ghz adapter.
KK Pro 2 had input latency? Since when? Did you update the firmware? Would you even bother???
it had a pretty low polling rate of 125 when wired and sub 75 when bluetooth on average iirc so yes in comparison its pretty slow. tho if you arent doing anything that intensive it most likely wont matter
Does kk3 Pro come with Xbox buttons or only with kk3 Max?
Good question... I'm not entirely sure but from the looks of it, only the max.
@@KeiRetroGaming buttons are expensive if I buy the button kit separately then its cost will be similar to kk3 max in my country
Yeah the button kit is pricey by itself. I wish it was cheaper.
I currently play Apex Legends on pc through steam with an elite 2 controller, will I be able to use the kk3 on steam with no issues
It's been great on steam so far for me, no issues to report.
@@KeiRetroGaming ok thanks for the feedback
Exactly why I’m on this video but I play apex on ea
@@Se_Goobergo for the apex 4 instead. i play apex. mainly the only fps game i play on steam. that controller
is just smooth. it’s something else. slap linear with it. you’ll feel what i’m saying when you actually use it
@@KeiRetroGaming Can you tell me, does it work with steam-input/reWASD and allow you to use both gyro and remap all 4 back buttons?
I bought the controller to use the gyro on my pc. If I use the windowsmode (wired or with the dongle) I can only map gyro on the controller and it simulates stick movements. That's pretty bad and not fun to use.
I can however use the controller wired and in switch mode and get full gyro compatibilty but then I loose the analog triggers.
I also have a lot of problems with connecting the controller. Overall it is a nice controller but it has a lot of flaws that don't get talked about in reviews like this one.
Have you tried flydigi direwolf 2? Some RUclipsrs said this gamepad has the best gyro experience in budget range
Got the black version, updated the firmware, but I can’t get it off the Nintendo switch to pc.
Any ideas, suggestions 😅would be great..
You tried switching the mode as mentioned in the review? What does it do when you try to switch? Does it turn off?
@@KeiRetroGamingHi yes it shuts off 😮
🫢 just watched the video again, I wasn’t clicking it two times .
Thank you 🙏 for your video, just subbed 😊.
Double tap the mode button then let go of it, don't hold it down. Wait a few seconds then double tap again to move to the next mode if needed.
Thoughts on this compared to the flydigi apex4?
Never tried the Apex 4 unfortunately.
I am ordering right now
Awesome! Have fun! I'm sure you'll love it.
Is this usable on ps5 via usb?
It should, but I don't have a PS5 to check.
tutorial on start on mobile/emulators. and if possible warzone mobile
I have this controller and it's noooot so great.
The cons:
-The triggers and bumpers have a bad feel and ergonomics compared to original xbox
-Battery life is not so good
-The + and - are your start and select buttons no matter what and they are awkwardly placed
WHY. DOES. NOBODY. EVER. TEST. JOYSTICK. WOBBLE?!?!? (the amount of play the stick has when not under tension)
Great review! I'm looking to replace my Xbox Elite v1 and this might be it. A Note: this doesn't have RGB... just B ;)
Very good replacement for the Xbox Elite V1. You'll be very happy with it I think. I've essentially replaced all my controllers with this. I have the black one at my tv for when I dock my Ally and the grey one at my desktop.
In just 3 months, left trigger lock broke ( analog/digital ). Not durable. It's just made out of thin plastic inside.
feels like a scam buying this, i thought back pedal can be customized like all other controller in market, it only can map existing button
had mine since 10th Feb and my back paddles are getting stuck after pressing them in now. I do not recommend this controller because of this. So disappointing as the rest of the controller is 10/10
this or gamesir which better your opinion?
why do people test input delay using software on their PC? That's literally not how it works. Your PC has no idea when you press the button prior to your input registering. All the software does is measure the polling rate and base your input delay off that. The most reliable way to measure input delay is to use a high-speed camera and measure the time between button press and your input being detected on your monitor. this will also include the input delay of your monitor but that doesn't matter as long as you use the same monitor per controller, just mark the descrepencies between them. or juts flat out measure the input delay of you monitor and subtract that from the controllers final score.
Vader 4 Pro:
Gonna be entirely honest here, you shouldn’t be allowed to make a review of a pro controller if you don’t use the back buttons/paddles. Usually it wouldn’t matter that much, but the bottom paddle sticks waaaaau off the shell of the controller.
The triggers are so awful. Returned because of them.
There's no clear instructions on how to update. No controller app. Mine bricked after attempted firmware update. Sending this back to Amazon for refund. Trash product