The point about maps facing north was a great example of convention. In The Hobbit, Tolkien made his dwarven map oriented with east facing up. This served to both make it feel other worldly and fantastical as well as thoroughly confuse 5th grade me. It's just another example of how breaking convention can be an effective means of storytelling.
This is a super important video! And I admit, I'm GLAD someone made a point that notes don't "want" anything. That infuriates me. As for using a shrieking goat in a song, I'm sure Hermeto Pascoal would love to do that.
Been putting off learning music theory until today. Have been searching for different resources and this video definitely won me over! Look forward to going through your posts
What a great video. This deserves a ton of views and I for sure will share it with all my musician friends. This explanations can pretty much be applied to every human concept or human made, there are real limitions and physical rules, but there's a point where concepts come out of human perception and people think it's a rule made by the gods. Great video.
Hi Jesse. I don't normally listen to the introduction videos but I'm glad I did on this one. Straight to the point. I'll be looking at some more. Thanks again and stay safe you and yours. Singem.
My favourite classical rule breaking is Tchaikovski's 1812 Overture. Nothing says "Eff the rules" quite like military ordinance as an instrument (also, it's brilliant because it works thematically)
In short no but yes. Rules in music is usually used as a learning aid for composers within a certain style usually these rules come up from music trends and the history of it. For beginners, having absolute freedom will get you confused onto where to start. Best to experiment and having fun with it.
Yeah he basically said that. I agree with you, imposed limitations tends to breed creativity. But some of these "rules" are fitting with an aesthetic style. One thing I noticed early on is that the rule about parallel 5ths and 7-1 resolutions/tendency tone resolutions falls apart very quickly for music outside of classical repertoire, i.e. blues, rock, pop (and even in classical repertoire - look at the works of Debussy and Ravel). P5s can be incredibly desirable for their acoustic effect. I discovered this from analysing music and also just experimenting in comp once I learned these rules. So yes, while I agree with you, it's also not good to get bogged down in it. Can you write in the style of Palestrina using counterpoint as taught by Fux which was the aesthetic of the Roman Catholic church? Great. Will that do you much good in writing a pop or rock song? Not really, you can get away with basic chord theory for that.
Counterpoint rules actually are not subjective at all, some of them could be subjective, but most of them are mandatory if your goal is to get two or more independent melodic lines. I suggest you to read David Huron books. Sorry for my bad english but i’m not a native english speaker.
I think a distinction should be made between counterpoint exercises and free counterpoint. Counterpoint rules govern exercises because exercises don't provide opportunity to develop individual voices through repetition, for example, given their limited length. Free counterpoint and composition allows composers to develop voices over time and recontextualization. It isn't as if Bach broke rules of counterpoint, he simply new the difference between exercise and composition.
I think most rules in the arts are enforced to try to realize some ideal state as envisioned by the rule makers. If you don’t share those ideals, then the rule is absolutely meaningless to you. For your artistry it should ideally be as if that rule never existed at all. But that’s just my ideal
It’s the first video of 2022! I’ve got a lot of great stuff planned for the months ahead. Let me know below what videos you’d like to see this year.
One of the best speech i’ve heard about music theory
The point about maps facing north was a great example of convention. In The Hobbit, Tolkien made his dwarven map oriented with east facing up. This served to both make it feel other worldly and fantastical as well as thoroughly confuse 5th grade me. It's just another example of how breaking convention can be an effective means of storytelling.
If I understand the history correctly, maps did face east at one point, at least in some traditions - "orient" coming from the Latin word for east.
@@twominutemusictheory It's no surprise that Tolkien was calling back to an ancient convention rather than breaking a modern one, haha!
This is a super important video! And I admit, I'm GLAD someone made a point that notes don't "want" anything. That infuriates me.
As for using a shrieking goat in a song, I'm sure Hermeto Pascoal would love to do that.
Well said but wondering how two or more musicians communicate while jamming is what drew me into theory. G-d bless the Circle of Fifths 🙂
Been putting off learning music theory until today. Have been searching for different resources and this video definitely won me over! Look forward to going through your posts
What a great video. This deserves a ton of views and I for sure will share it with all my musician friends.
This explanations can pretty much be applied to every human concept or human made, there are real limitions and physical rules, but there's a point where concepts come out of human perception and people think it's a rule made by the gods.
Great video.
Thanks so much!
Hi Jesse. I don't normally listen to the introduction videos but I'm glad I did on this one. Straight to the point. I'll be looking at some more. Thanks again and stay safe you and yours. Singem.
great content as always jesse!
Thanks so much!
My favourite classical rule breaking is Tchaikovski's 1812 Overture. Nothing says "Eff the rules" quite like military ordinance as an instrument (also, it's brilliant because it works thematically)
“Anyone can write a cannon, it’s about time someone used a cannon!”
Just found your 2min theory. Thank you, great content
In short no but yes. Rules in music is usually used as a learning aid for composers within a certain style usually these rules come up from music trends and the history of it.
For beginners, having absolute freedom will get you confused onto where to start. Best to experiment and having fun with it.
Yeah he basically said that. I agree with you, imposed limitations tends to breed creativity. But some of these "rules" are fitting with an aesthetic style. One thing I noticed early on is that the rule about parallel 5ths and 7-1 resolutions/tendency tone resolutions falls apart very quickly for music outside of classical repertoire, i.e. blues, rock, pop (and even in classical repertoire - look at the works of Debussy and Ravel). P5s can be incredibly desirable for their acoustic effect.
I discovered this from analysing music and also just experimenting in comp once I learned these rules. So yes, while I agree with you, it's also not good to get bogged down in it. Can you write in the style of Palestrina using counterpoint as taught by Fux which was the aesthetic of the Roman Catholic church? Great. Will that do you much good in writing a pop or rock song? Not really, you can get away with basic chord theory for that.
Counterpoint rules actually are not subjective at all, some of them could be subjective, but most of them are mandatory if your goal is to get two or more independent melodic lines. I suggest you to read David Huron books. Sorry for my bad english but i’m not a native english speaker.
I think a distinction should be made between counterpoint exercises and free counterpoint. Counterpoint rules govern exercises because exercises don't provide opportunity to develop individual voices through repetition, for example, given their limited length. Free counterpoint and composition allows composers to develop voices over time and recontextualization. It isn't as if Bach broke rules of counterpoint, he simply new the difference between exercise and composition.
That’s a reasonable distinction.
May I recommend a book that discusses this issue brilliantly?
Voice Leading, the science behind a musical art by David Huron The MIT Press
On the point of banjos in rock music: Jethro Tull is a rock band with a LEAD transversal flute played in a somewhat unconventional way. 🤟😎👍
That’s a great example! I added that example thinking about a video I saw on RUclips where a bluegrass band covered Thunderstruck. It was epic.
That thumbnail looks like a mugshot 😂
You have inspired me to write a piece with a shrieking goat
That was really my motivation in making this video. Concerto for Shrieking Goat needs to happen.
Yeah minor can be sad but i just prefer it in general. Often it's not sad it depends on various factors. Think of *minor swing* by Django Reinhardt.
I think most rules in the arts are enforced to try to realize some ideal state as envisioned by the rule makers. If you don’t share those ideals, then the rule is absolutely meaningless to you. For your artistry it should ideally be as if that rule never existed at all. But that’s just my ideal
Great!
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