I'm sorry but 2K does NOT look great.... 2K's finishers look and feel weak While HCTP feels aggressive & impactful... like you truly hit a FIBISHING move
It was a reversal.... If someone had Taker in a grapple and someone else tried to double team grapple Taker, and Taker reversed it... his reversal animation was a double chokeslam
@@angelserrano9049 no fluidity in the movement. So the impact of the finishers dont nearly hit the same, they have this hollow feeling to them. Just play HCTP and then play any 2k wrestling game. You'll notice the difference immediately
@@jonathanbatista6135 that’s because in here comes the pain finishers transition to cut scenes as opposed to actual gameplay. Cut scenes that repeat three times so it gives a big impact illusion. 2K isn’t clunky in that sense though whatsoever it’s just simulated as opposed to arcade. I like both actually for different reasons.
@@angelserrano9049 not all the time, in hell in a cell matches or elimination chambers, certain moves like Manuel spear finishers, super kicks, or even clothesline from hell, they dont go into the cutscene, it's more of the sound system. Each finisher feels like it shakes the ring, the sound effects when a meal attack is hit(like a super kick) or how the 5 star frog splash hits, just has better responding effect. Add the better roster of legends, and the camera flash effect in the crowd bc there was no cell phones like that, gives an overall more authentic vibe. You can also interrupt finishers with other finishers, so it's not all cut scene rendered
@@jonathanbatista6135 I still have that game actually along with my PS2 so whenever I’m in the mood for an old school arcade wrestling game, I can pop it right in. It’s kind of outdated now, though. I played last year for a little while, but the rendering of the graphics kind of killed it for me.
I agree but to 2k ego will not allow them to. Remember that the 2K would refer to a lot of the features in here comes the pain as basic and would just make it seem like it was inferior because it's arcade even though a lot of the features there are more realistic than 2K. 2K glorifies their universe mode which no matter how they call it or spin it , it's not going to be the same thing as create a story mode. I personally love the creative pay-per-view mode because you could create a pay-per-view and the game had a mini High package to the main event and then you could play it all in one instant. Creative finisher was also great feature and the only reason that people complained about it was some people didn't like their opponent having complicated finishers during online games but they could've easily adjusted this by having an automatic default so that it wouldn't slow down gameplay. But what no one called for no one asked for was requesting microtranactions in the pointless my faction game but they continued to stuff that there
@@ArmaanLuthra-oo1fw it can be remastered but unfortunately when it comes to the remastering it I seriously doubt 2K is capable of it. Think of how many modes 2K has copied from Smackdown versus Raw and called it their own only to make them significantly inferior to the original. The best example is the fans have waited and waited and waited backing for a GM mode. 2K finally brings it back and their first version is significantly inferior to the Smackdown versus Raw version. The second person that 2K head of GM motor still inferior to the Smackdown versus Raw version. The backstage fighting in 2K 22 is still inferior to the backstage fighting to hell in a cell. When you look at Futures like creative finisher and create a story those are features that the fans have been begging for for the longest but 2K refuses to put those on. 2k's excuses but they are afraid of glitches which is bullshit because if they were afraid of glitches they would have never made to 2k20. Simply but there's two reasons why 2k will not a modern version of those two features ego and ability. 2K things they are legitimately better than Smackdown versus Raw that's what their higher-ups a so they copy old features but will not take something that is distinctly obvious that they did not create. There's a reason why two cable copy hot tags and possum finishers but won't copy story mode or create a move. The story mode and creative move are more well-known in 2K does not want to acknowledge that they're still from the past even though people are requesting they do it, 2K has a history of stealing from the past and they own the copyrights to it. From a logical standpoint given how pretty much every 2K game from 2K15-2k19 is the same. Given the fact that 2k20 sucked . Given the fact that to 2k22 and 2K 23 or pretty much the same game only 23 is a slightly updated version. Given the fact that 2K has a history of depreciating features from old Smackdown versus Raw games and putting them in a inferior format I seriously doubt their 2K was doing a remastered that they would be able to actually replicating that has the original version. Keep in mind that 2K did an inferior version of Wwe all stars with their game WWE Battlegrounds to who's to say that 2K would continue to make impure versions of games if they attempted to remaster them
if they make a remake on here comes the pain, they will make so much money NoCap just imagine the mechanics on that game was head of its time Luka have the ring shakes super realistic ‘s and the finishers and even the gameplay mechanics crazy
I totally agree but I think it's 2K's ego is stopping them from actually doing that because everyone is begging for it everyone is begging for Creative finisher and create a story mode I personally would love to see create a pay-per-view mode I wasn't a fan of GM but you know how many people are thrilled that that return even though two cases giving the watered-down version.
you can feel the power of those slams with the finisher now 2K is like they’re lazy as of when they were making it the wrestlers had no motivation tired out
I really appreciate the camera snaps whenever big moves take place in HCTP, adds so much more dynamic... definitely don't see that with 2k23 (yes i know, cellphones).
Before 2k: over dramatic over sells that made the moves look painful and impactful After 2k: bump and a little red lighting that will do no over sells just have them plop on the ground and give some red around the screen I miss thq wwe games have just not been the same since they left
Arcade over simulation all day every day. How can anyone ever say the new animations look remotely better than HCTP or most of the Smackdown vs Raw games?
My observations: For weapon physics i choose wwe day of reckoning 2 .... For gameplay i choose SmackDown pain and wwf Nomercy .. Breaking table won't occur in SmackDown pain if you do corner top grapples.... But in day of reckoning 2 breaking table occur if you do corner top grapples...
smackdown was a bit more exagerrated & obviously 23 more realistic, but i feel like smackdown hit the nail on the coffin with that, people want a show & all the special moves are definetly sold big time , makes it more fun 😂
No way. Svr 2006 was better, WWE 2k14 and 2k19 was better. You guys don't even know what a wrestling game should be. 2k23 good but visually, there are so many limitations...
Smackdown and SvR games just came with a different intensity in presentation. Current games just feel so arcade like, movement and animations are just so stiff. Sucks but THQ really were the gods of Sports Combat/Entertainment Games. EA and 2K just ruined everything.
It's alright. If it didn't crash so much. I create & edit my caws section by section bcuz the game will randomly crash like it did to Xavier Woods live on upupdowndown ,🤦😂
@@pjleon8391 😂 did it really? Woods needs to send 2k that video asap. I don’t get crashes since i don’t create nor play online but hopefully this next update 1.06 fixes a lot.
@@angelserrano9049 Yea he went live on UPUPDOWNDOWN when the deluxe/icon edition was released & I was watching. He edited himself & made a badass attire only for the game to crash when he tried to save it. 😂😬
Would you say I should go for 2K 19 or 2K 23? I want the game that best resembles what SmackDown here comes the pain was about 20 years ago. I like how fluid the player movement was and how they weren’t sluggish moving around the ring. Is 2K 19 or 2K 23 similar to SmackDown here comes the pain in terms of gameplay in controls?
@@mikeandroid3512 19 has a much better gameplay in my opinion and I went back to it about a week ago and I’m honestly having more fun with that than 23. The roster, universe mode, The details and features and everything functioning properly in my opinion is better in 19 the presentation, the graphics, the UI and the creation suite is better in 23.
@@Off-DaDribble not about graphics its the cinematic aspect of the moves in hctp the realistic camera angels of the new games isn’t exciting or fun. It doesn’t feel like its old arcade self
It's crazy how everyone shits on these new wrestling games. 2k22 an 2k23 are really good. I've played these games since wrestlemania 2000 to no mercy to shut your mouth an here comes the pain an so on. Yeah here comes the pain no mercy an shut your mouth were so special at the time lets live in the moment considering the game is actually good an not garbage like 2k20
After all this time, they’re still comparing an old arcade game with a current simulation game 🤦♂️ hctp was very fun, but it still has cons. The graphics are very outdated and The rendering is terrible. It looks good on these RUclips videos because they use enhancements, but I have this game myself and it looks nowhere near as clean as it looks here. I got the HDMI cord for the PS2 along with a 85 inch Samsung TV and it still doesn’t look as good as it does here. The backstage areas with the amount of things you can do and the impact with the finishers are fantastic but 2K23 does everything else better imo.
i understand its a simulation but they could have finishers with better selling of the move imo. they dont emphasize imapct nearly enough on any 2k game wwe
Reason SD HCTP was epic because it was made in a different time when society, in general, was still cool. Wrestling, movies, and music all sux nowadays. We live in such boring lame times now. it's sad, ik, but it's the reality...
Hctp sounds like you just did your finisher on top of a bunch of sheet metal and your only reaction is always the same right after. A quiet utterance of the word "oh....fuck"
2k doesn't cover wwe for some time, non-core finishers look terribly stiff, definitely her comes the pain wins, amazing impact, you can feel the power during the action, charisma of a given player and slow motion, it looks amazing, I hope some other company will take care of the game with series wwe🤦♂️
I think the arena in game now is less resilient than before and less powerful when the characters fall on it. I haven't felt any improvement since after 2 K ! Before 2k: over dramatic over sells that made the moves look painful and impactful The 2K WWE games will never go beyond
Crazy how the older games are much smoother than the new ones they're very stiff It's quite boring stop trying to make it super realistic it's a video game. 😅
Some superstars seem a little too big from the waste up. Kind of cartoonish. The rings seems too damn small, and tried to make all the moves and finishers way too "realistic" that they ended up making them like a too dry or something... I"ll prefer SmackDown 2 Know You Role for ever!
Of course 2k23 is miles better in every aspect, but those little arcadey cinematics in HCP were neat. And no, 2k23 is pretty arcade too, not a sim. Get your facts rights, nostalfags! 🤣
@@Vicky__87 It's called not being an edgelord driven by nostalgia, buddy. But your retort is based on calling names and using emojis, like a literal kid... So, I'm not hoping you to understand.
The aggressiveness and cinematography of HCTP finishers are amazing even today
Not really
@@juanurena87it is dawg! 2k games mechanics are so flat!!
@@juanurena87get lost
@@juanurena87why are you here
It wad like that in all sm vs raw games too from wwe12 they started becoming more realistic aka boring
Both versions look great, but the arcade animation from the finishers in hctp will never be topped
I still play it to this day 🔥🔥
Give me your PlayStation
@@christianbuckley6670 😂😂
No lie I’d pay money to jus have 15 min on this game again
I'm sorry but 2K does NOT look great.... 2K's finishers look and feel weak
While HCTP feels aggressive & impactful... like you truly hit a FIBISHING move
I wish we could combine the theatrics of HCTP with the graphics of 2K23.
me also
WWE Here Comes the Pain 2003 Still Awesome
Smack down pain with good graphics and detail would be ultimate
here comes, the pain deserves a remake look at the mechanics, and how even the ring shakes definitely ahead of this time
Unless thq makes another wwe game nothing will ever top hctp
You mean thq and *yukes*
Waiting for AEW Fight Forever 👌
@@mohabsaid4249 That is not gonna top Here Comes The Pain. You have to be delusional to think so. Lmao.
@@beckyquin8365 agree 💯
I miss when games wanted to look like games Instead of looking real. HCTP has better looking moves.
I don't remember being able to do a double chokeslam in HCTP
It was a reversal.... If someone had Taker in a grapple and someone else tried to double team grapple Taker, and Taker reversed it... his reversal animation was a double chokeslam
The reason finishers looked better in the old games is Bec it was a cutscene now they make fisher simulators which look clunky
Clunky how?
@@angelserrano9049 no fluidity in the movement. So the impact of the finishers dont nearly hit the same, they have this hollow feeling to them. Just play HCTP and then play any 2k wrestling game. You'll notice the difference immediately
@@jonathanbatista6135 that’s because in here comes the pain finishers transition to cut scenes as opposed to actual gameplay. Cut scenes that repeat three times so it gives a big impact illusion. 2K isn’t clunky in that sense though whatsoever it’s just simulated as opposed to arcade. I like both actually for different reasons.
@@angelserrano9049 not all the time, in hell in a cell matches or elimination chambers, certain moves like Manuel spear finishers, super kicks, or even clothesline from hell, they dont go into the cutscene, it's more of the sound system. Each finisher feels like it shakes the ring, the sound effects when a meal attack is hit(like a super kick) or how the 5 star frog splash hits, just has better responding effect. Add the better roster of legends, and the camera flash effect in the crowd bc there was no cell phones like that, gives an overall more authentic vibe. You can also interrupt finishers with other finishers, so it's not all cut scene rendered
@@jonathanbatista6135 I still have that game actually along with my PS2 so whenever I’m in the mood for an old school arcade wrestling game, I can pop it right in. It’s kind of outdated now, though. I played last year for a little while, but the rendering of the graphics kind of killed it for me.
This is proof that the older wrestling games was better
Nothing they bring can test Smackdown Here Comes The Pain...best option is to REMASTER IT ❤
I agree but to 2k ego will not allow them to. Remember that the 2K would refer to a lot of the features in here comes the pain as basic and would just make it seem like it was inferior because it's arcade even though a lot of the features there are more realistic than 2K. 2K glorifies their universe mode which no matter how they call it or spin it , it's not going to be the same thing as create a story mode. I personally love the creative pay-per-view mode because you could create a pay-per-view and the game had a mini High package to the main event and then you could play it all in one instant. Creative finisher was also great feature and the only reason that people complained about it was some people didn't like their opponent having complicated finishers during online games but they could've easily adjusted this by having an automatic default so that it wouldn't slow down gameplay. But what no one called for no one asked for was requesting microtranactions in the pointless my faction game but they continued to stuff that there
Sports games can not be remastered
@@ArmaanLuthra-oo1fw it can be remastered but unfortunately when it comes to the remastering it I seriously doubt 2K is capable of it. Think of how many modes 2K has copied from Smackdown versus Raw and called it their own only to make them significantly inferior to the original. The best example is the fans have waited and waited and waited backing for a GM mode. 2K finally brings it back and their first version is significantly inferior to the Smackdown versus Raw version. The second person that 2K head of GM motor still inferior to the Smackdown versus Raw version. The backstage fighting in 2K 22 is still inferior to the backstage fighting to hell in a cell. When you look at Futures like creative finisher and create a story those are features that the fans have been begging for for the longest but 2K refuses to put those on. 2k's excuses but they are afraid of glitches which is bullshit because if they were afraid of glitches they would have never made to 2k20. Simply but there's two reasons why 2k will not a modern version of those two features ego and ability. 2K things they are legitimately better than Smackdown versus Raw that's what their higher-ups a so they copy old features but will not take something that is distinctly obvious that they did not create. There's a reason why two cable copy hot tags and possum finishers but won't copy story mode or create a move. The story mode and creative move are more well-known in 2K does not want to acknowledge that they're still from the past even though people are requesting they do it, 2K has a history of stealing from the past and they own the copyrights to it. From a logical standpoint given how pretty much every 2K game from 2K15-2k19 is the same. Given the fact that 2k20 sucked . Given the fact that to 2k22 and 2K 23 or pretty much the same game only 23 is a slightly updated version. Given the fact that 2K has a history of depreciating features from old Smackdown versus Raw games and putting them in a inferior format I seriously doubt their 2K was doing a remastered that they would be able to actually replicating that has the original version. Keep in mind that 2K did an inferior version of Wwe all stars with their game WWE Battlegrounds to who's to say that 2K would continue to make impure versions of games if they attempted to remaster them
He never disappoints
if they make a remake on here comes the pain, they will make so much money NoCap just imagine the mechanics on that game was head of its time Luka have the ring shakes super realistic ‘s and the finishers and even the gameplay mechanics crazy
I totally agree but I think it's 2K's ego is stopping them from actually doing that because everyone is begging for it everyone is begging for Creative finisher and create a story mode I personally would love to see create a pay-per-view mode I wasn't a fan of GM but you know how many people are thrilled that that return even though two cases giving the watered-down version.
Awesome video bro😊
thanks
I like Kane’s unmask look and aggressive chokeslam style in Here comes the pain. 4:23
you can feel the power of those slams with the finisher now 2K is like they’re lazy as of when they were making it the wrestlers had no motivation tired out
Love your videos
2k should change stone cold finish
Nothing can beat here comes the pain
HCTP forever in my heart
WWE Here Comes The Pain Vs. WWE 2K23 (Finishers Comparison)
Here comes the pain is legendary. Definitely best wrestling game ever
Here comes the pain has a style each finishers represents wrestlers personality
Old is gold
Here come the pain game was awesome.....every single finisher looks deadly
It is improving every day and it is promising
I really appreciate the camera snaps whenever big moves take place in HCTP, adds so much more dynamic... definitely don't see that with 2k23 (yes i know, cellphones).
The impact on hctp is on another level. Dynamics as well. The superstars look much better on wwe23. But i prefer playing on ps2 hctp or SVR.
PS2 had the technology for slow mo, angles and crunch. PS5 can only manage a red vignette 😂
I love the aggressive side of HCTB
Before 2k: over dramatic over sells that made the moves look painful and impactful
After 2k: bump and a little red lighting that will do no over sells just have them plop on the ground and give some red around the screen
I miss thq wwe games have just not been the same since they left
They should have kept finishers like hctp
Smackdown pain is different… its an emotion for early gamers
HCTP- Whacky arcade fun
2k23- More realistic
Who'd play a realistic game with so boring and flat mechanics. Its fun we need. Hctp with 2k graphics will be unbeatable.
Arcade over simulation all day every day. How can anyone ever say the new animations look remotely better than HCTP or most of the Smackdown vs Raw games?
My observations:
For weapon physics i choose wwe day of reckoning 2
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For gameplay i choose SmackDown pain and wwf Nomercy
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Breaking table won't occur in SmackDown pain if you do corner top grapples.... But in day of reckoning 2 breaking table occur if you do corner top grapples...
smackdown was a bit more exagerrated & obviously 23 more realistic, but i feel like smackdown hit the nail on the coffin with that, people want a show & all the special moves are definetly sold big time , makes it more fun 😂
23 was the best one since HCTP. But HCTP takes the cake in pure playability
Nah you missing 2007
There hasnt been a good wwe game since svr 11
@@Assassin-ys5vw treasure your opinion yourself deep down your ass
No way. Svr 2006 was better, WWE 2k14 and 2k19 was better. You guys don't even know what a wrestling game should be. 2k23 good but visually, there are so many limitations...
@@cankarahan8013 been playing from ps2 days and bitch, you are telling me i dont know wrestling games?
4:49 Look at his face 💀🤣 King Booker T
if this game came back...i will be the first to buy
No pedigree, Jackhammer or F-5 in any other game will ever top the hctp version
those and the sweet chin, stunner and spear and kanes chokeslam for me. game was amazing.
Smackdown and SvR games just came with a different intensity in presentation. Current games just feel so arcade like, movement and animations are just so stiff. Sucks but THQ really were the gods of Sports Combat/Entertainment Games. EA and 2K just ruined everything.
the HCTP stunner :( wish it was still in current games
HCTP was amazingly fun but 2K23 is fantastic as well imo.
It's alright. If it didn't crash so much. I create & edit my caws section by section bcuz the game will randomly crash like it did to Xavier Woods live on upupdowndown ,🤦😂
@@pjleon8391 😂 did it really? Woods needs to send 2k that video asap. I don’t get crashes since i don’t create nor play online but hopefully this next update 1.06 fixes a lot.
@@angelserrano9049 Yea he went live on UPUPDOWNDOWN when the deluxe/icon edition was released & I was watching. He edited himself & made a badass attire only for the game to crash when he tried to save it. 😂😬
Would you say I should go for 2K 19 or 2K 23? I want the game that best resembles what SmackDown here comes the pain was about 20 years ago. I like how fluid the player movement was and how they weren’t sluggish moving around the ring. Is 2K 19 or 2K 23 similar to SmackDown here comes the pain in terms of gameplay in controls?
@@mikeandroid3512 19 has a much better gameplay in my opinion and I went back to it about a week ago and I’m honestly having more fun with that than 23. The roster, universe mode, The details and features and everything functioning properly in my opinion is better in 19 the presentation, the graphics, the UI and the creation suite is better in 23.
Lol even the basic grapples in hctp hit more harder than wwe 2k23 whole life 😂😂😂
You prob need to upgrade your tv 😂😂
@@Off-DaDribble not about graphics its the cinematic aspect of the moves in hctp the realistic camera angels of the new games isn’t exciting or fun. It doesn’t feel like its old arcade self
It's crazy how everyone shits on these new wrestling games. 2k22 an 2k23 are really good. I've played these games since wrestlemania 2000 to no mercy to shut your mouth an here comes the pain an so on. Yeah here comes the pain no mercy an shut your mouth were so special at the time lets live in the moment considering the game is actually good an not garbage like 2k20
After all this time, they’re still comparing an old arcade game with a current simulation game 🤦♂️ hctp was very fun, but it still has cons. The graphics are very outdated and The rendering is terrible. It looks good on these RUclips videos because they use enhancements, but I have this game myself and it looks nowhere near as clean as it looks here. I got the HDMI cord for the PS2 along with a 85 inch Samsung TV and it still doesn’t look as good as it does here. The backstage areas with the amount of things you can do and the impact with the finishers are fantastic but 2K23 does everything else better imo.
I have ps5 but until now I’m waiting new version from smackdowm pain , this like dream
Here comes the pain was the childhood.
i understand its a simulation but they could have finishers with better selling of the move imo. they dont emphasize imapct nearly enough on any 2k game wwe
THQ was amazing
That Rock Bottom tho
Reason SD HCTP was epic because it was made in a different time when society, in general, was still cool. Wrestling, movies, and music all sux nowadays. We live in such boring lame times now. it's sad, ik, but it's the reality...
Smackdown here comes the pain is the best, its like every hit and finishers impact so strong
The 2K WWE games will never go beyond
Hctp sounds like you just did your finisher on top of a bunch of sheet metal and your only reaction is always the same right after. A quiet utterance of the word "oh....fuck"
Here comes the pain still best WWE game🔥
The collision sounds in 2k sound like baby hits
Should make Smack down pain remaster it would be great
2k doesn't cover wwe for some time, non-core finishers look terribly stiff, definitely her comes the pain wins, amazing impact, you can feel the power during the action, charisma of a given player and slow motion, it looks amazing, I hope some other company will take care of the game with series wwe🤦♂️
I do agree hctp probably the best wrestling game but 2k19 was pretty good
SmackDown pain you can do 619 when opponent is on corner rope but in wwe 2k18 i don't think you can do like that 619
This is like comparing gold to bronze. 20 years of technology advance and WWE 2k23 is just lame
Shame on u comparing the best of all time over 2k game!!!
smack down pain is the greatest wrestling game ever made
I think the arena in game now is less resilient than before and less powerful when the characters fall on it. I haven't felt any improvement since after 2 K !
Before 2k: over dramatic over sells that made the moves look painful and impactful
The 2K WWE games will never go beyond
Wow, the crowd still looks the same
The crowd and impacts are so dead in the new games.
2k not even close...this is how 2k needs to do it...htcp made me feel like I was really hurting my opponent
Its the other way around at the end there....
Entran es smackdown song 2003 with 2023.
Smack down here come the pain are the best and feel the power of hit
Finishers usually doesn't finish the match in 2k23
2k23 looks more real thats why we love
And hctp have better gameplay
Clasic2023 era new
Crazy how the older games are much smoother than the new ones they're very stiff It's quite boring stop trying to make it super realistic it's a video game. 😅
Some superstars seem a little too big from the waste up. Kind of cartoonish. The rings seems too damn small, and tried to make all the moves and finishers way too "realistic" that they ended up making them like a too dry or something... I"ll prefer SmackDown 2 Know You Role for ever!
2K23 is an amazing game and definitely the best 2K has released…but it still pales in comparison to HCTP in nearly every way.
Attitude Adjustment ⭐😍✌️
WWE 2003 THQ ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Million times better then wwe2k23 and the other 2k games😊
Rock bottom looks ridiculous. Why does The Rock jump back like that?
On which one
@@thanmawiasailo23 The new animation. The Rock should jump forward, not backward like that.
Yeah I hate the new rock bottom animation
@@wavyNewYork1 He is supposed to jump forward with the right leg up high.
1:12 they ruin the superkick
Heres comes the pain king of the king all series ❤❤
no wwe game will ever surpass hctp in gameplay
Arcade vs Sim
WWE smack down here comes the pain way better than WWE 2k 23
2k23 looks like a mobile game in comparison to hctp.
Wwe Smackdown here comes pain
Good
Hctp the best
2003 the best ever
Mobile me chalega kya yr
It's a sport sim and I hate it
Remaster here comes the pain n just keep it runnin with dlcs ad b more than happy these wwe2ks games r to slow and boring
Of course 2k23 is miles better in every aspect, but those little arcadey cinematics in HCP were neat.
And no, 2k23 is pretty arcade too, not a sim. Get your facts rights, nostalfags! 🤣
@@Vicky__87 It's called not being an edgelord driven by nostalgia, buddy. But your retort is based on calling names and using emojis, like a literal kid... So, I'm not hoping you to understand.
2k Please learn how to make a game from HCTP
2k is soft just like how the fans are today
Pain always best
F5 is most vigouruos ........ Hctp top
Name the juego
Game register new
Gokiiiiiilllllll