Who needs the KOTOR Remake when you can see a KOTOR demo from 2001 that's totally unique... right? Let me know what you think about it below! Be sure to check out the full presentation here - ruclips.net/video/r_nYhZrjY8w/видео.html and come follow me on Twitter - twitter.com/100PerStarWars I'll hold my hands up when I'm wrong as the Sith Ship does exist in the game! Thanks to everyone who pointed this out and taught me something new! (Starships go over my head tbh)
Actually, the ship Darth Malak flies in on is the Herald-class shuttle, and has been seen a few times in the background in a few spaceports, most notably in the Sith controlled hanger on Manaan, I think there's a quest that allows you to visit that area.
okay I wasn't expecting this but this is so cool. Absolutely agree that NPC's reacting to your more naturally would've done wonders for the games overall
Even though I know that many games go through the same process, I do feel a bit sad when I know how ambitious a game used to be early in development. Also you do a flip when using power attack too.
This reminds me of the demo footage of kotor 2. Telos has stormy weather and an awesome atmosphere and the devs mention a 2005 release date, when the video itself was recorded in 2004. Its always awesome, and somewhat sad at times, how much these games change in development.
Oh wow, I went down to the comments and was surprised there were no comments, then I realized you uploaded this 1 min ago. I just found your channel today and have binged like 10 videos. KotOR was one of my favourite series when I was younger and your videos have convinced me to do a new playthrough
NPC's reacting naturally to players actions (both quest/story related, but also just gameplay related like running near them, drawing weapons, just doing stuff) is one of the most overlooked aspects of videogame design. This is the best way to create immersion and to make gameworld fascinating to explore. Today's best game with that would be RDR2, but it was done before, like in early 2000's game Gothic. World doesn't need to be huge - it needs to be alive
Wow the old builds make what we got look so good! Some of the older animations were pretty expressive, so its sad we couldn't see Bastila's more of Bastila's personality portrayed via these. Her dialogue is already a bit snobbish at first, and seeing her mannerisms change over the course of the game would have been really cool. Even so, the actual models an textures were improved immensely, so while KOTOR is still dated, it looks so good when you see where they came from.
Even though I would love a more interactive combat system with the Kotor Remake (Hopefully it actually exists someday) I really like the turn based combat system even though it’s extremely dated, I can’t imagine Kotor without it!
Kotor does not have a turnbased combat. If it had it would had an initiative system. System used is called Real Time with Pause and it's an abomination. I hope that if we ger Kotor 3 it will utilize a proper turnbased system.
@@kronos911 WOTC D20 system was turnbased, but Bioware adopted it into Real Time with Pause system. They did the same for Baldurs Gate and 2 ed DnD. You can't have a turnbased sysem without having turns or initiative. Infinity Engine was originally developed for RTS, before it was adopted for DnD.
...Are you psychic? Because eight months after you hoped it would exist, Saber Interactive has broken off from Embracer to go Private and go all-hands-on-deck for the Knights Remake.
This mystery sith ship just looks like one of the gunshipfreighter designs. I wish they'd stuck to refining some of the combat animations, though. We already got cool ones, but they could've been so much more-especially in how they could move through the small space that the combat is alloted.
There's something a bit Mass Effectish about some of those animations. Particularly the exhaustion animations. There's a scene in Mass Effect where Shepard and her/his crew come running out and they have their hands on there knees and they are panting with exhaustion. The interactioning NPCs seems to be something that also seems a bit Mass Effectish as well. I think my love of Bioware games stems from my love of KOTOR though. I do think a lot of things got cut due to time constraints and perhaps even console and pc processing power. Animating a lot of NPCs reactions might have been a time crunch as well as heavy on processing power. I heavily mod Mass Effect and KOTOR to add more NPCs and aspects to the game and a lot of it didn't exist because computers and consoles just couldn't handle it. Devs had to make sure it could handle all the platforms and not break.
Dude you nearly gave me a heart attack, I thought it was going to be the remake demo. Don’t do that lol 😂. Just kidding man, this footage looks really impressive. I’ve never seen this before
@@100StarWarsYes, but the model is terribly broken and has no UV maps. It has some generic name and it's only the head. But the head looks completely different with the Geisha like hair and much narrower face.
If they were going to have an ammo count for the blaster, I wonder if the combat was originally not going to be turn based. Interesting to see the game in such an early stage of development.
I think it was probably still party based and removed when they realized they would need to make ammo count meaningless for the AI party members or only Lightsabers would be used.
While I appreciate the turn base style of the original KOTOR, I would've loved for it to be more action based like Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy. The action does the story more justice. But who knows, wherever they decide to finish the remakes, we may just get our wish.
That ship at 10:23 is in the original game, but it looks a bit different and the tip is yellow/orange. It can be seen several times, when different ships come down/go up. It can be seen at Taris on the right side, if you're standing in front of the sith base. And on Manaan, inside the sith hangar. (The one next to your hangar, not the far end side)
Notably, Mass Effect 1 still didn't have ammo, and they had to retcon it in later. Also Bioware already made a third person shooter in MDK2. I don't know if ammo necessarily meant it was supposed to be action oriented though. D&D have arrow count, as did other D20 based systems. But I feel that in the Star Wars universe such logistical concerns are kind of redundant.
It looks like "KotOR" was a significantly more ambitious game in the earlier drafts. This one Jedi vs. Sith duel looks stellar, especially the killmove. The little NPCs' reactions to the player, the scripted skirmishes between Sith troopers and the Jedi, or the gangs in Lower City of Taris would make the game so much better, although I am really nostalgic towards the Endar Spire tutorial. A loot system, more animations, finite ammunition in blasters (or maybe even lightsabers as it's set 4000 years before "A New Hope", making vibroblades a permanently viable option in late game) - all of that would make this legendary game levels of magnitude better. It's so sad that no story in the "Star Wars" franchise is as good, as the story of the duology of "Knights of the Old Republic": Revan, Bastila, the Exile, Kreia, and the foreshadowed "true Sith" in the Unknown Regions. They seemed like an even lovecraftian kind of a threat at the end of the second game. It gave me an impression, that even Darth Nihilus with his world-devouring power would seem a lesser danger compared to those unknown ancient Sith. "The Old Republic" shouldn't be mentioned in one sentence with these two great games, in my humble but correct opinion. Corporations and greed do really destroy any art-based industry...
Something about the gameplay of this demo seems so smooth, which is very impressive for its time. Hey who knows, maybe the kotor remake will go back to its roots and use this smooth gameplay!
Two things: 1: If the unused animations and events were still used alongside the final game, it would've blown everyone's mind away. 2: Ironically, this early footage would be a huge help and inspiration for the Remake.
most appears in swtor. that ship desigs are in art books for the originals and prequels but a bit different and then there's a variation in swtor again but i know from a friend who develops games and worked on many star wars projects that lucasarts will have those books of all the concept art not used and they can build off that stuff to keep a cohesive look across the star wars universe. For example in Clone Wars way back in season 2-3 i forgot now but there is a ship that looked like the razercrest. then in swtor's initial release there is another variation of that same ship and it's seen on rishi a lot these days. Then in Mandalorian they had the razercrest which closely resembles elements of those older designs. The front of that sith ship design at least as it lands looks very similar to the front end of the gozanti class (first seen in rebels with that name) then in The Mandalorian season 2. There's some ship in Swtor again that carries a bit of the resemblance and that ship was put into the KOTFE stuff that came long after the gonzanti was shown in rebels. So maybe it was some very old version of a hip McQuarrie or Chiang drew. Or Doug Chiang was inspired by an older ralph McQuarrie to design the gozanti like he did which is long after this game, but those designs do seem consistent across so many films, artbooks, toys, cover art for some novels and games.
Big changes during the development seem to have been part of Bioware process even early on. The first demos of Mass Effect and Jade Empire were also really different from the final product.
It should be noted that this was Demo was probably made before the original XBOX was even released, a possible theory as to why the animations in the finished Kotor are worse than what was presented in this Demo is that the original XBOX couldn't handle them whereas the PC could. Heck, if you play the XBOX version of Kotor today and compare it to the PC version the XBOX graphics are lower quality than the PC graphics and many of the NPCs on the XBOX are less diverse than they are on the PC.
they made a video about how they got there hands on these old tape on their main channel it seems like the demo tape was inches away from being thrown into a landfill and becoming lost media so i think they have crowdfunding campaign open so save as much as possible from being lost
As usual for game demos (apart from Duke Nukem Forever's, they should have kept to that version and not the gross one we got), we may be OK with what we really have, but we sure start to miss what was lost from here to the final product. Case in point, movable vehicles outside of swoop racing and Ebon Hawk turret sections.
You gained a subscriber just from the simple fact that you actually stated what channel the video came from and the name of it. So many other channels will just say things like “ guys I just found this crazy leak” and then never once mention the source. You a real one fam 💚👏🏻🙏🏼
Yep, I just learned this thanks to the comments! Crazy to be learning new things about this game even after all this time! (Starships have never been my strongsuit tbf)
@@100StarWars it's on one of the hangars in Manaan but unfortantly we cannot use it! such a beautiful ship...( it also appears in the KOTOR RPG book in the game star wars saga...)
@@100StarWars have you read the KOTOR comic book with the story of Zaine Carrick? there are lots of easter eggs related to the KOTOR games!!(mission vao, the Ebon Hawk, Taris, the gangs,Griph...) it's awesome!!
【Shades Finnish Pirates】The combat system, i kinda thought combat was almost like Final Fantasy but not as repetive but not as flashy as FF and the combat system kinda felt like just means to progress in the mission. I played original kotor with force sensitive team as a dark side & ligh side so i am only talking about from that perspective but i did try the shooters but it kinda felt weird having a "off screen turret" on you're team like if this would have been real life i would have been afraid to be hit to my back by a blaster bolt...quess that's why they are force sensitive so that friendly fire does not happen
To me, I think the demo resembles more of the Jedi Knight series, mainly with the ammo counts and the movements/maneuvers shown during the jedi and sith duel
yeah there are some stuff that i would like to have, but some that i would never, like making taris an escape and nothing more, also i would like for the game to be more action centric, however it took all the way to jedi fallen order for a star wars game to have actually good combat system, a lot of older games have turn based systems that are either shown directly or not, also there is a flip animation with power attack or something like that
It looks like a totally different game, almost like it was made by different developers. not Bioware. Crazy how much changes over the course of development.
Big thanks to Morgan Webb and Adam Sessler from X-Play for giving this game a 5 out of 5. I've would've never tried this game if it weren't for them. I've spent the entire summer of 2003 playin KotOR. 20 years later and i still enjoy it 😁
Check this out.... I just got KOTOR on steam, downloaded it, played it..... OMFG! The fps this game has.... Man! Now my laptop has a crappy CELERON n4020 cpu and uhd graphics.... NONE of the games I have run OVER 30FPS (unless you count stardew valley which when the laptop ISN'T overheating reaches 60) Thank you for older games! Lol I'm loving this game again!
:) Great Video, still a Game a value highly. Cut content is always a bane I always thing it lessens the story but I wouldnt know about business decisions either. Great Video.
Glad you made a video on this thank you. It’s so interesting to see early developments of the game in this way. I agree with going for a smooth animation style rather than the stiff movements but not too big deal. And the glimpse of T3, so cutie he is! 🥹
The combat between the Jedi and Sith looked really cool. Honestly, the only part of KOTOR and KOTOR 2 I actually dislike is the combat. It’s too hands off for me. I don’t mind a turn based style, but I don’t particularly care for the ability to initiate combat and then walk away from the game for 5 minutes while my character and companions fight without additional input.
the animations and the combat i'm sort of gutted about but the ammo count lot i'm glad they got rid of that would have stressed me out way too much and would have taken away from the true experience naturally i'm glad they updated the char models and the worlds look so much better
It would have been a completely different game. I think the combat looked more action oriented because the team just came off of the framework and success of Jade Empire.
I am shocked and appalled at "why did they remove looting animation" take. Would you really like to have each time when you loot a contained to have to watch an animation before proceeding? This would make looting tiresome without providing any real benefit. Getting rid of looting animation was a great choice.
The other flip I can think of is with Power Attack but otherwise, I'd have killed for more animations like that Jedi vs Sith sequence!! KOTOR 2 went ahead and blue balled me with the Force Choke from the trailer as well lol
I think the thing I'm most glad didn't make it into the final build, is that god awful run. 😅 Jokes aside, I think a major influence of their decisions (that stripped out a lot of reactive bits) came down to agency and choices available to the player. Something that wasn't handled very well in the sequel.
Who needs the KOTOR Remake when you can see a KOTOR demo from 2001 that's totally unique... right? Let me know what you think about it below! Be sure to check out the full presentation here - ruclips.net/video/r_nYhZrjY8w/видео.html and come follow me on Twitter - twitter.com/100PerStarWars
I'll hold my hands up when I'm wrong as the Sith Ship does exist in the game! Thanks to everyone who pointed this out and taught me something new! (Starships go over my head tbh)
I wish they could have published this demo alongside the game
Agreed
10:26 there is that ship in orig game on Taris and his flying animation near Sith Base
I'll expect people going to do a Duke -Takem- Nukem Forever Restoration Project thing with this.
how do i play kotor on my pc with windows 10 from steam
Actually, the ship Darth Malak flies in on is the Herald-class shuttle, and has been seen a few times in the background in a few spaceports, most notably in the Sith controlled hanger on Manaan, I think there's a quest that allows you to visit that area.
I stand corrected - you're absolutely right it does exist! I love learning new things about this game even after all this time and all these videos!
Yeah, you even fly one when trying to get into the embassy.
That animation sequence between the Sith and Jedi dueling at 9:24 was so cool! Not even The Old Republic MMO had choreography like that!
As far as I remember, it was used once in the sword fencing training sequence at the Jedi enclave.
the mmos combat is so much worse than kotor
okay I wasn't expecting this but this is so cool. Absolutely agree that NPC's reacting to your more naturally would've done wonders for the games overall
Even though I know that many games go through the same process, I do feel a bit sad when I know how ambitious a game used to be early in development.
Also you do a flip when using power attack too.
I meant more along the lines of a movement flip as seen in this demo but you're right!
Kotor II creators were VERY ambitious. SaltFactory and other commentary channels talk about it in the beginning of their videos
This reminds me of the demo footage of kotor 2. Telos has stormy weather and an awesome atmosphere and the devs mention a 2005 release date, when the video itself was recorded in 2004.
Its always awesome, and somewhat sad at times, how much these games change in development.
I always thought it was dxun in that trailer
@@Rievax17 maybe there was a different demo? Idk
When did it end up getting released
Oh wow, I went down to the comments and was surprised there were no comments, then I realized you uploaded this 1 min ago. I just found your channel today and have binged like 10 videos. KotOR was one of my favourite series when I was younger and your videos have convinced me to do a new playthrough
welcome to the club!
NPC's reacting naturally to players actions (both quest/story related, but also just gameplay related like running near them, drawing weapons, just doing stuff) is one of the most overlooked aspects of videogame design. This is the best way to create immersion and to make gameworld fascinating to explore. Today's best game with that would be RDR2, but it was done before, like in early 2000's game Gothic. World doesn't need to be huge - it needs to be alive
Ah, good old Gothic I and II+Night of the Raven. Shame Gothic III onwards can't compare, though.
@@michaelandreipalon359 and why it cannot? I'd say one reason is they didn't create a true living environment
Wow the old builds make what we got look so good! Some of the older animations were pretty expressive, so its sad we couldn't see Bastila's more of Bastila's personality portrayed via these. Her dialogue is already a bit snobbish at first, and seeing her mannerisms change over the course of the game would have been really cool. Even so, the actual models an textures were improved immensely, so while KOTOR is still dated, it looks so good when you see where they came from.
10:25 the ship IS in the game - its in the sith hangar on manaan and serves as an alternative way to get into the Sith base.
Even though I would love a more interactive combat system with the Kotor Remake (Hopefully it actually exists someday) I really like the turn based combat system even though it’s extremely dated, I can’t imagine Kotor without it!
Kotor does not have a turnbased combat. If it had it would had an initiative system. System used is called Real Time with Pause and it's an abomination. I hope that if we ger Kotor 3 it will utilize a proper turnbased system.
@@JediMasterRadek KOTOR used WOTC D20 system. It was turned-based.
@@kronos911 WOTC D20 system was turnbased, but Bioware adopted it into Real Time with Pause system. They did the same for Baldurs Gate and 2 ed DnD. You can't have a turnbased sysem without having turns or initiative. Infinity Engine was originally developed for RTS, before it was adopted for DnD.
...Are you psychic? Because eight months after you hoped it would exist, Saber Interactive has broken off from Embracer to go Private and go all-hands-on-deck for the Knights Remake.
@@NebLleb Yes, I am psychic! Thanks for asking!
I still cant get over how good the score is, hasn't been nothing like it since
I saw that video is so interesting see and is crazy how this early build look compare to release build so fascinating.
Remember, KOTOR 1 came out on the OG XBOX. It probably couldn't handle all of these character animations
This mystery sith ship just looks like one of the gunshipfreighter designs.
I wish they'd stuck to refining some of the combat animations, though. We already got cool ones, but they could've been so much more-especially in how they could move through the small space that the combat is alloted.
There's something a bit Mass Effectish about some of those animations. Particularly the exhaustion animations. There's a scene in Mass Effect where Shepard and her/his crew come running out and they have their hands on there knees and they are panting with exhaustion. The interactioning NPCs seems to be something that also seems a bit Mass Effectish as well. I think my love of Bioware games stems from my love of KOTOR though.
I do think a lot of things got cut due to time constraints and perhaps even console and pc processing power. Animating a lot of NPCs reactions might have been a time crunch as well as heavy on processing power.
I heavily mod Mass Effect and KOTOR to add more NPCs and aspects to the game and a lot of it didn't exist because computers and consoles just couldn't handle it. Devs had to make sure it could handle all the platforms and not break.
Jade Empire-ish, maybe.
The look of some of the Early Demo footage kind of reminds me of the Bounty Hunter game, the animations specifically.
Oh my this is gold!!!
Yes the ship is in game. It lands outside of the Sith Taris base IIRC
This is so cool! I love that videogame history has some real crusaders, people willing to work hard to prevent things being lost forever
I think the unseen sith ship design was scene on taris near the military base
Dude you nearly gave me a heart attack, I thought it was going to be the remake demo. Don’t do that lol 😂. Just kidding man, this footage looks really impressive. I’ve never seen this before
That Bastila-like Char model is actually in the files. I forgot it's name but I discovered it back in 2018 already.
Oh really? Only in the files?
@@100StarWarsYes, but the model is terribly broken and has no UV maps. It has some generic name and it's only the head. But the head looks completely different with the Geisha like hair and much narrower face.
7 months is quite a lengthy time for a response haha. But either way thank you for letting me know!@@realdoctortenenbaum
@@100StarWars Sorry, I didn't notice the reply back then.
If they were going to have an ammo count for the blaster, I wonder if the combat was originally not going to be turn based. Interesting to see the game in such an early stage of development.
I think it was probably still party based and removed when they realized they would need to make ammo count meaningless for the AI party members or only Lightsabers would be used.
Looks amazing and incredible my friend!!!! I think you needed to see something like this to get your mind off the KOTOR remake
While I appreciate the turn base style of the original KOTOR, I would've loved for it to be more action based like Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy. The action does the story more justice.
But who knows, wherever they decide to finish the remakes, we may just get our wish.
Did.... Did he say 22 years ago?
Oooooooof, I feel old at age 32 now.
Woah
I came here to make this exact comment. there is no way that was 22 years ago 😭
It really came a long way wow
That ship at 10:23 is in the original game, but it looks a bit different and the tip is yellow/orange. It can be seen several times, when different ships come down/go up. It can be seen at Taris on the right side, if you're standing in front of the sith base. And on Manaan, inside the sith hangar. (The one next to your hangar, not the far end side)
Notably, Mass Effect 1 still didn't have ammo, and they had to retcon it in later. Also Bioware already made a third person shooter in MDK2.
I don't know if ammo necessarily meant it was supposed to be action oriented though. D&D have arrow count, as did other D20 based systems. But I feel that in the Star Wars universe such logistical concerns are kind of redundant.
Pure beauty.
It looks like "KotOR" was a significantly more ambitious game in the earlier drafts.
This one Jedi vs. Sith duel looks stellar, especially the killmove. The little NPCs' reactions to the player, the scripted skirmishes between Sith troopers and the Jedi, or the gangs in Lower City of Taris would make the game so much better, although I am really nostalgic towards the Endar Spire tutorial.
A loot system, more animations, finite ammunition in blasters (or maybe even lightsabers as it's set 4000 years before "A New Hope", making vibroblades a permanently viable option in late game) - all of that would make this legendary game levels of magnitude better.
It's so sad that no story in the "Star Wars" franchise is as good, as the story of the duology of "Knights of the Old Republic": Revan, Bastila, the Exile, Kreia, and the foreshadowed "true Sith" in the Unknown Regions.
They seemed like an even lovecraftian kind of a threat at the end of the second game. It gave me an impression, that even Darth Nihilus with his world-devouring power would seem a lesser danger compared to those unknown ancient Sith.
"The Old Republic" shouldn't be mentioned in one sentence with these two great games, in my humble but correct opinion.
Corporations and greed do really destroy any art-based industry...
Something about the gameplay of this demo seems so smooth, which is very impressive for its time. Hey who knows, maybe the kotor remake will go back to its roots and use this smooth gameplay!
Two things:
1: If the unused animations and events were still used alongside the final game, it would've blown everyone's mind away.
2: Ironically, this early footage would be a huge help and inspiration for the Remake.
most appears in swtor. that ship desigs are in art books for the originals and prequels but a bit different and then there's a variation in swtor again but i know from a friend who develops games and worked on many star wars projects that lucasarts will have those books of all the concept art not used and they can build off that stuff to keep a cohesive look across the star wars universe. For example in Clone Wars way back in season 2-3 i forgot now but there is a ship that looked like the razercrest. then in swtor's initial release there is another variation of that same ship and it's seen on rishi a lot these days. Then in Mandalorian they had the razercrest which closely resembles elements of those older designs. The front of that sith ship design at least as it lands looks very similar to the front end of the gozanti class (first seen in rebels with that name) then in The Mandalorian season 2. There's some ship in Swtor again that carries a bit of the resemblance and that ship was put into the KOTFE stuff that came long after the gonzanti was shown in rebels. So maybe it was some very old version of a hip McQuarrie or Chiang drew. Or Doug Chiang was inspired by an older ralph McQuarrie to design the gozanti like he did which is long after this game, but those designs do seem consistent across so many films, artbooks, toys, cover art for some novels and games.
Big changes during the development seem to have been part of Bioware process even early on. The first demos of Mass Effect and Jade Empire were also really different from the final product.
The neighbors grass is always greener. - that's why so many people love beta games stuff.
It should be noted that this was Demo was probably made before the original XBOX was even released, a possible theory as to why the animations in the finished Kotor are worse than what was presented in this Demo is that the original XBOX couldn't handle them whereas the PC could. Heck, if you play the XBOX version of Kotor today and compare it to the PC version the XBOX graphics are lower quality than the PC graphics and many of the NPCs on the XBOX are less diverse than they are on the PC.
they made a video about how they got there hands on these old tape on their main channel it seems like the demo tape was inches away from being thrown into a landfill and becoming lost media so i think they have crowdfunding campaign open so save as much as possible from being lost
The golden age of gameing. ❤ I miss this game
As usual for game demos (apart from Duke Nukem Forever's, they should have kept to that version and not the gross one we got), we may be OK with what we really have, but we sure start to miss what was lost from here to the final product. Case in point, movable vehicles outside of swoop racing and Ebon Hawk turret sections.
You gained a subscriber just from the simple fact that you actually stated what channel the video came from and the name of it. So many other channels will just say things like “ guys I just found this crazy leak” and then never once mention the source. You a real one fam 💚👏🏻🙏🏼
I am so thankful for that game. I enjoyed the growth that this game gave Jade Empire.
that ship design appears in Manaan...🌊🌊🌊🙄
Yep, I just learned this thanks to the comments! Crazy to be learning new things about this game even after all this time! (Starships have never been my strongsuit tbf)
@@100StarWars it's on one of the hangars in Manaan but unfortantly we cannot use it! such a beautiful ship...( it also appears in the KOTOR RPG book in the game star wars saga...)
Yeah, I recall it now people have pointed out. I never really paid too much attention to it to notice haha
@@100StarWars have you read the KOTOR comic book with the story of Zaine Carrick? there are lots of easter eggs related to the KOTOR games!!(mission vao, the Ebon Hawk, Taris, the gangs,Griph...) it's awesome!!
Looks like a better animated star wars galaxies
Thxs, Luke
I'm glad they changed how the running looks from the demo.
Cool thanks for the video!!
【Shades Finnish Pirates】The combat system, i kinda thought combat was almost like Final Fantasy but not as repetive but not as flashy as FF and the combat system kinda felt like just means to progress in the mission. I played original kotor with force sensitive team as a dark side & ligh side so i am only talking about from that perspective but i did try the shooters but it kinda felt weird having a "off screen turret" on you're team like if this would have been real life i would have been afraid to be hit to my back by a blaster bolt...quess that's why they are force sensitive so that friendly fire does not happen
To me, I think the demo resembles more of the Jedi Knight series, mainly with the ammo counts and the movements/maneuvers shown during the jedi and sith duel
Woooooow very cool’ especially the Jedi and with fighting with lightsabers!
I love the original animations for how clunky they are
They have their charm
yeah there are some stuff that i would like to have, but some that i would never, like making taris an escape and nothing more, also i would like for the game to be more action centric, however it took all the way to jedi fallen order for a star wars game to have actually good combat system, a lot of older games have turn based systems that are either shown directly or not, also there is a flip animation with power attack or something like that
The sith ship Malak walks out of in the demo is actually in the games final product on mannan. You ride one to the sith base.
THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEO LUKEY 😘
I watched this this weekend actually..just appeared in my feed cause I watch alot of kotor stuff..lol
that's his favorite restricted area in anchorhead too.
I wish they use the more expressive and detailed animations.
It looks like a totally different game, almost like it was made by different developers. not Bioware. Crazy how much changes over the course of development.
Big thanks to Morgan Webb and Adam Sessler from X-Play for giving this game a 5 out of 5. I've would've never tried this game if it weren't for them. I've spent the entire summer of 2003 playin KotOR. 20 years later and i still enjoy it 😁
Those animations looks like they're from Neverwinter Nights, especially the "pickpocket" one.
Buh that combat at 10:10 looks wayyyyyyyy better than anything of the generation, why didn't they stay that course?
Aw man, I want this version!
I imagine they wanted a lot of this but since most pcs weren't as high end to sell the product they had to tone it down.
I imagine there were limitations for sure.
More likely it was to make the game run on consoles.
Great video. Thank you. I specifically liked the animation fluidity and the more organic interaction.
The reload animation is still in the game you do it during off turns during combat
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I just got KOTOR on steam, downloaded it, played it.....
OMFG!
The fps this game has.... Man!
Now my laptop has a crappy CELERON n4020 cpu and uhd graphics....
NONE of the games I have run OVER 30FPS (unless you count stardew valley which when the laptop ISN'T overheating reaches 60)
Thank you for older games! Lol
I'm loving this game again!
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Deleted romance scene between Revan and Bastila
that's cool, some things look better than the final game itself
Damn son
Damn son indeed.
:) Great Video, still a Game a value highly. Cut content is always a bane I always thing it lessens the story but I wouldnt know about business decisions either. Great Video.
It seems at times you sound
like any other modern Discord
smug, snob gamer...
This was almost an awesome video...
What? 😂
ship on 10 minute was in the game on manaan
hi your content is awesome do u have some kind of lets play on these games?
Glad you made a video on this thank you. It’s so interesting to see early developments of the game in this way. I agree with going for a smooth animation style rather than the stiff movements but not too big deal. And the glimpse of T3, so cutie he is! 🥹
Wasn't the exhaustion animation in cutscenes though?
The combat between the Jedi and Sith looked really cool. Honestly, the only part of KOTOR and KOTOR 2 I actually dislike is the combat. It’s too hands off for me. I don’t mind a turn based style, but I don’t particularly care for the ability to initiate combat and then walk away from the game for 5 minutes while my character and companions fight without additional input.
Demo looks much better then final game
the animations and the combat i'm sort of gutted about but the ammo count lot i'm glad they got rid of that would have stressed me out way too much and would have taken away from the true experience naturally i'm glad they updated the char models and the worlds look so much better
It would have been a completely different game. I think the combat looked more action oriented because the team just came off of the framework and success of Jade Empire.
Im comfortable to pay 100 for games with aesthetics and the litte details that make the world come alive.
Many younglings were sacrificed to obtain this holoprojection.
A necessary sacrifice
POLISH IS LITERALLY 50% OF THE GAME 😱😱😱🤯🤯🤯
I am shocked and appalled at "why did they remove looting animation" take. Would you really like to have each time when you loot a contained to have to watch an animation before proceeding? This would make looting tiresome without providing any real benefit. Getting rid of looting animation was a great choice.
Wow it sounds like the original vision was something more alined with Fable
Some people may not want this but I would like Revan in the remake to have a voice actor, it worked for the Witcher games so why not for kotor too
Yeah, he has a voice in SWTOR too. Can still have the option to turn it off
@@kylescoolclips yes, having that opinion would be nice
At the same time, it's highly criticized in Fallout 4.
@@ximthedespot4673 still there could be a turn off/on option
Because Geralt's a pre-defined character, KOTOR PC's should not be.
Mass Effect was built far more on top of Jade Empire than KOTOR.
The other flip I can think of is with Power Attack but otherwise, I'd have killed for more animations like that Jedi vs Sith sequence!! KOTOR 2 went ahead and blue balled me with the Force Choke from the trailer as well lol
The demo looked way better honestly
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I think the thing I'm most glad didn't make it into the final build, is that god awful run. 😅
Jokes aside, I think a major influence of their decisions (that stripped out a lot of reactive bits) came down to agency and choices available to the player. Something that wasn't handled very well in the sequel.
22 years ago, back when Star Wars was good.
So they've made a scripted 'demo' in a completely different engine from one they were developing the game with? That was a scam, plain and simple.
Waaaat this looks like it could have been way better than what we got, mannnn 🥲