I'm really interested to see how well EV's will sell once the government rebates start going away slowly in 2025. Great channel. Keep up the good work.
Lease a Lucid Air for 18 months. The cheapest configuration costs the same as an higher end Toyota or Mazda lease and it’s gorgeous, fast, and gives you a ton of range
Imho, at current prices EVs make no financial sense. First, they are reasonable only for city driving. Highway EV driving "3 hours drive -- 1 hour charge" is impractical and, given electricity prices at commercial chargers, saves no money. So, they are only usable as a second household car, obviously, only for those who can charge at home. Now let's compare apples to apples (all prices are current in CA$): Model 3 Long Range RWD - $55K minus $8.5K government incentives = $46.5K Camry Hybrid SE Upgrade AWD - $41K The difference is $5.5K. Even with free home electricity at Camry's 5 l/100km and 1.6 $/l it will take ~70K km of city driving to recoup the price difference. Then, you don't need a Camry for city runabout. Civic Hybrid at 35K will perfectly do. This is another $6K ~= 75K km to recoup. 145K km of city driving with the second car is only possible if you use the car as a taxi. Yet in my city the taxis are old Elantras, Fortes and Civics, few old Camrys, I've seen not a single Tesla taxi. Probably taxi drivers know something I didn't account for. May be something like Bolt priced at $30-35K could change that. But for now EVs simply make no sense.
@@nickgonchar7272 Heavy drivers know (just like mechanics) that the BEVs have a huge TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) - diminishing their overall returns plus they are unreliable (thus a low resale value), not to mention they are dangerous, impractical etc. But their biggest down for taxi drivers is that the BEVs need a lot of time for charging (the usage of fast charging dramatically affects the extremely expensive battery life, thus is a no go for smart drivers) while they need to operate their cars as much as possible, for as many hours/miles possible. That's why no smart taxi driver will use a BEV.
Funny, I was planning to make the Model 3 vs Camry cost comparison as a video but you kind of beat me to the punch 😂. Well maybe there will be a few more variables to consider to help tip the scale.
@@carhelpcorner (: Shari, feel free to use the idea. You'd do it way more convincing and entertaining than me. Or you can do Model Y vs RAV4, I suppose with similar results.
Got Model 3 last year for 42k out the door, plus $7,500 Federal tax rebate and full rebate for home charger (Live in California). No timing belt cost, no oil changes and brakes last significantly longer with regenerative braking (also adding to range). All adds up to a great ROI.
I wouldn’t buy any of them. The cross country charging network is non existent in many areas and availability is nowhere near it needs to be, massive depreciation, EV range is brutal (especially in the cold) and EV car prices are $15,000-$20,000 more than comparable ICE vehicles on average. Back in 5 years. ⚡️
It's very good, but the Ioniq5 is the same car only better. Better control setup, better dealer network and customer service, NACS charge port for 2025, basically a better EV6.
Its good to move to an EV but...some factors still need to be looked into by the authorities..high cost of the vehicle, charging network and most important...the insurance..OMG..it kind of negates the whole purpose..and may take a long time to fix these i guess..
EV overpriced unaffordable here. The only affordable EV are made in China like BYD, Geely, and other Chinese EV cost half the price the cheapest EV you mentioned. I kept my pre-owned 2016 Chevy Volt about 6 years now.
I'll stick with a solid proven reliable Toyota hybrid over any of these junkers. Come on Shary Nissan and reliable don't belong in the same sentence let alone the Leaf which has proven time and time again that it's battery deteriorates terribly. GM electronics are junk, TFL got the GMC hummer Truck and it left Roman stranded in the middle of the road, the chevrolet blazer EV is a big mess by itself. When it comes to electric cars, Tesla is king.
@tifreakhachey yup but that was him beating the heck out of that truck off-roading and toyota acknowledged the problem. The GMC hummer EV on the other hand meh. Also Andre's brand new colorado had a problem with the backup camera and got bricked once. So yeah GM quality is rock bottom
@@carfanatic112 indeed. They also had transmission problems with their trucks, I’m far from thinking that GM is better than Toyota, however I feel it’s getting harder to give anyone a pass when the customer pays so much for these products. I owned a Nissan Kicks, one of the only cars available during covid. It was great for the price tbh. 22k and super cheap on gas. A drunk driver totalled it so now bought a Maverick hybrid. Will see about reliability.
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I'm really interested to see how well EV's will sell once the government rebates start going away slowly in 2025. Great channel. Keep up the good work.
@@christopher1298 thank you!
Lease a Lucid Air for 18 months. The cheapest configuration costs the same as an higher end Toyota or Mazda lease and it’s gorgeous, fast, and gives you a ton of range
How is Hyundai Kona?
Imho, at current prices EVs make no financial sense.
First, they are reasonable only for city driving. Highway EV driving "3 hours drive -- 1 hour charge" is impractical and, given electricity prices at commercial chargers, saves no money. So, they are only usable as a second household car, obviously, only for those who can charge at home.
Now let's compare apples to apples (all prices are current in CA$):
Model 3 Long Range RWD - $55K minus $8.5K government incentives = $46.5K
Camry Hybrid SE Upgrade AWD - $41K
The difference is $5.5K. Even with free home electricity at Camry's 5 l/100km and 1.6 $/l it will take ~70K km of city driving to recoup the price difference. Then, you don't need a Camry for city runabout. Civic Hybrid at 35K will perfectly do. This is another $6K ~= 75K km to recoup.
145K km of city driving with the second car is only possible if you use the car as a taxi. Yet in my city the taxis are old Elantras, Fortes and Civics, few old Camrys, I've seen not a single Tesla taxi. Probably taxi drivers know something I didn't account for.
May be something like Bolt priced at $30-35K could change that. But for now EVs simply make no sense.
@@nickgonchar7272 Heavy drivers know (just like mechanics) that the BEVs have a huge TCO (Total Cost of Ownership) - diminishing their overall returns plus they are unreliable (thus a low resale value), not to mention they are dangerous, impractical etc. But their biggest down for taxi drivers is that the BEVs need a lot of time for charging (the usage of fast charging dramatically affects the extremely expensive battery life, thus is a no go for smart drivers) while they need to operate their cars as much as possible, for as many hours/miles possible. That's why no smart taxi driver will use a BEV.
Funny, I was planning to make the Model 3 vs Camry cost comparison as a video but you kind of beat me to the punch 😂. Well maybe there will be a few more variables to consider to help tip the scale.
@@carhelpcorner (: Shari, feel free to use the idea. You'd do it way more convincing and entertaining than me. Or you can do Model Y vs RAV4, I suppose with similar results.
Got Model 3 last year for 42k out the door, plus $7,500 Federal tax rebate and full rebate for home charger (Live in California). No timing belt cost, no oil changes and brakes last significantly longer with regenerative braking (also adding to range). All adds up to a great ROI.
NONE of the above. 🤢
They have no resale value. No one will buy your old used EV when newer models are available.
I wouldn’t buy any of them.
The cross country charging network is non existent in many areas and availability is nowhere near it needs to be, massive depreciation, EV range is brutal (especially in the cold) and EV car prices are $15,000-$20,000 more than comparable ICE vehicles on average.
Back in 5 years. ⚡️
What do you think about Kia EV6?
It's very good, but the Ioniq5 is the same car only better. Better control setup, better dealer network and customer service, NACS charge port for 2025, basically a better EV6.
@@yezch5530 Electric junk.
Honda prologue is pretty good
And the Subaru Solterra/Toyota BZ4X???
@@e.fonseca7822 both are very good if you get a great deal, but not really good enough to make a top 5 list.
Electric Cars are the one you didnt buy.
Its good to move to an EV but...some factors still need to be looked into by the authorities..high cost of the vehicle, charging network and most important...the insurance..OMG..it kind of negates the whole purpose..and may take a long time to fix these i guess..
The authorities? Who are they lol the car makers you mean?
EV overpriced unaffordable here. The only affordable EV are made in China like BYD, Geely, and other Chinese EV cost half the price the cheapest EV you mentioned. I kept my pre-owned 2016 Chevy Volt about 6 years now.
ive seen most of them
Hummer EV !!!!! It's a shame for the environment.
lol yes you have to put it far aside if you want to buy one of those Tesla 😅
electric cars are not meant to be owned....just rental or lease really
Porsche Macan EV
Too new, haven't tested it yet, but it definitely looks good.
Lost me at Chevy
Hyundai Ioniq 5 ❤️🔥😍
I'll stick with a solid proven reliable Toyota hybrid over any of these junkers. Come on Shary Nissan and reliable don't belong in the same sentence let alone the Leaf which has proven time and time again that it's battery deteriorates terribly. GM electronics are junk, TFL got the GMC hummer Truck and it left Roman stranded in the middle of the road, the chevrolet blazer EV is a big mess by itself. When it comes to electric cars, Tesla is king.
Wasn’t Roman also the one breaking a brand new Tacoma? 😅😂
@tifreakhachey yup but that was him beating the heck out of that truck off-roading and toyota acknowledged the problem. The GMC hummer EV on the other hand meh. Also Andre's brand new colorado had a problem with the backup camera and got bricked once. So yeah GM quality is rock bottom
@@carfanatic112 indeed. They also had transmission problems with their trucks, I’m far from thinking that GM is better than Toyota, however I feel it’s getting harder to give anyone a pass when the customer pays so much for these products.
I owned a Nissan Kicks, one of the only cars available during covid. It was great for the price tbh. 22k and super cheap on gas. A drunk driver totalled it so now bought a Maverick hybrid. Will see about reliability.
Hate from halfway around the world!
Leased a Vinfast for more than a year so far. Zero issue, plus they provide 10 years warranty on parts and 10 years on batterry with unlimited kms
Most cars are OK after the first year of ownership. Let us know how huge the TCO has been after more than 10 years 😂
This time Japan doesn't have much to say 😂
And how about Chinese EVs. They make affordable EVs
Because the Japanese cars' producers are far smarter than the Chinese commies.
Can't buy in the USA
@QuakerPop you can import
@BCdgz with a 100 percent plus tariff.
If I purchased an EV it would be a Tesla because of the politics.
Elon 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I’m buying a Tesla BECAUSE of the politics! And it’s a great car ❤