I’m British and I’m so ashamed of what my country did to Dresden. Whilst I know what Nazi Germany did was atrocious, there was no need to destroy those beautiful buildings
The feeling and taste of revenge after Coventry, Gdansk, Rotterdam and Warsaw etc. can be strong... All the suffering and death up until that point in early 1945, with the failure of Operation Market Garden in the back of your mind ... Hence, why never war on such a scale again.
I hope so too. If you can see what the citizens of Dresden have achieved in 30 odd years since 1990, you can only imagine how beautiful the city will be in the year 2045 etc. When its the 100th anniversary of the destruction ... and being that perfect symbol of resurrection and resilience. The restoration of the Neustadter Markt will be the most challenging, due to the housing issue, bureaucracy and preservation of the DDR era etc., but the city council etc. will surely come around, when the number of tourists and tourism revenue in general will show them that pre-WW2 restoration is the way to go for the city of Dresden, for the present and the future.
Es tut so gut, die Beispiele zu sehen, wo der Unterschied zwischen den Bildern behoben wurde! Aber umso mehr tut es weh, die anderen Vergleiche zu sehen😢
Dresden hat uns sehr gut gefallen! Hatten einen kleinen Campingplatz für unseren Bulli gleich gegenüber der Frauenkirche direkt an der Elbe!👌 Traumhaft schön, besonders Abends wenn die Beleuchtung der Stadt zur Postkartenidylle wird! Auch das Essen wie Wurst und Brot sind nicht zu vergleichen mit dem was wir hier in der Nord-Eifel bekommen! Dresden und das nahe gelegene Elbsandsteingebirge sind absolut eine Reise wert! ❤
The destruction was done in 3 air raids by hundreds of planes dropping thousands of bombs. In less than 24 hours. At 9:30 pm on February 13 , 1945 everything built over centuries was still there. History around every corner at every turn one could look. By the evening of February 14 everything was gone. It is true the Prussian bombardment in 1760 during the Seven Years War caused significant damage to Dresden, one of THE most beautiful Baroque cities in Europe at the time. However, what happened less than 3 months before the end of World War 2 is beyond understanding. The debate regarding this will undoubtedly never end. "Dresden was a transportation hub for the Reich so it had to be done. " ( The train station was the one landmark that got through the bombing so trains were running again within 3 days. The fires from the bombs burned for a week. ) You can go to England and walk the streets of Oxford and Cambridge, visit the Cathedrals, (Salisbury's comes to mind. ) and these treasures are still there as they were. To compare what happened to one of the most beautiful cities in the world as revenge to what happened to Coventry, there is NO comparison. Perhaps compare what happened to Rostock in 1942, (still much worse) as revenge for Coventry, but not Dresden. What happened to Dresden was a war crime of the most sickening nature because besides obliterating an acknowledged center of Western Civilization of the highest order into total ashes from end to end (even the Grosse Garden and the Zoo) it was very well known by the Allies the city was full of refugees from Silesia by the tens of thousands. These civilians thought they would be safe because places like Oxford were never bombed. Yes, what happened to Rotterdam, the Blitz, the seige of Leningrad, Warsaw, the Concentration Camps were all horrible, but so was this. So was THIS.
The DDR plan to rebuilt the city after the war is as atrocious as the bombings, many landmarks and residential buildings that could have been restored were totally flattened because they "didn't have a place in a communist city". Luckily since reunification the old town have been rebuilt, and there are currently a lot of important reconstruction plans taking place, the more time will pass, the prettier Dresden will become, it's just a matter of patience and waiting.
Yes, I think this is true. Debate about the necessity to bomb the city will likely go on forever, but I think a better question is: where were these areas that were legitimate targets? Was every corner and every street a part of the war effort? If not then it was revenge bombing. Nuremberg is another example. Yes, it housed some industry which contributed to the war effort, but it doesn’t seem like the historic part of the city was involved. Yet, the Allies bombed it because it was also symbolic. Another terribly tragic event.
@@justjosh711 No the the old city was bombed packed with citizens and refugees. On the other side of the Elbe "new city" side there were the military targets which were left intact. This can only be intentional and therefore a serious war crime.
It seems a common occurrence for allied bombing raids to apparently outright avoid strategic targets while focusing on civilian ones. The train station and rail yard in Gießen also miraculously survived 75% of the city being leveled.
It’s so sad to think that, what took centuries to beautify, was destroyed in a matter of hours/days. What an atrocious tactic carpet (and fire) bombing was.
Yes indeed, but I was told that because Dresden became part of Communist East Germany after the war the Communist authorities also destroyed large swathes of the beautiful baroque architecture of the city, so the Allied bombing wasn’t entirely to blame.
@@albertsmyth9616 Yes, that’s probably right. But I can’t imagine there was a lot still standing intact at that point, given how devastated the city was. I know the communists changed cityscapes to better reflect their ideology. So that wouldn’t surprise me. So the war was the first tragedy, and the communist takeover was the second.
@@albertsmyth9616 Is this the fault of the Allied bombing? Were the Allies supposed to surrender to the N*zis? Or maybe they should throw flowers at them? The Germans destroyed Dresden themselves because they started the war. (in Poland, the communists rebuilt many monuments destroyed by the Germans)
Wichtig ist, daß wir aus Fehlern lernen und dergleichen nicht wieder zulassen.Leider kommen mir immer mehr Zweifel ,ob Frieden und Anstand möglich sind,zuviele Menschenfeinde verdienen an Kriege,laß uns trotzdem optimistisch sein.❤❤
Sehr interessant, den Vergleich zu sehen (ohne viel Sprache und mit angemessener Musik). Als seit 2 Jahren "Wahl- Dresdnerin" lerne ich diese Stadt so aus anderer Perspektive kennen (Luftaufnahmen). Vielen Dank. Die Architektur des Wiederaufbaus (ab Theater/Zwinger stadteinwärts) steht sehr im Kontrast zu der "historischen Bauweise" (ab Postplatz), während das Gebiet um die Frauenkirche historisch nachgestaltet und gepflegt aussieht. Ich bin z. Z. zu Besuch in Weimar. Hier besteht z. Teil noch "Nachholbedarf" , was die Sanierung der Häuser in der Altstadt betrifft (bes. Nebenstrassen). Und am Stadtrand (am "alten Schlachthof) entsteht ein großes Neubau - Viertel in "Plattenbau- Format", crass! ("Borchert- Bogen"). Auch eine "interessante" Stadtentwicklung....
What a beautiful city. As an American, I'm very sad for what the "worst generation" here did to it during that period. Thank you for putting together these photos so that we can remember. Hopefully, it can all be rebuilt back to the way it was, and maybe even better.
Than you, but never forget the bombs fell 80 years ago. The reason it wasn't rebuilt as it has once been was/is policits alone ... one changing even historical cities for the worse. I will never blame the allies for this.
I think Dresdeners owe Kurt Vonnegut a monument. Without his "Slaughterhouse 5" about the bombing of Dresden, the destruction of that city would have been as forgotten as that of other ancient German cities (eg. Würzburg).
My hometown and still live here. Must say today the city more beautiful than earlier times imo. Its not that crowded with buildings. But its interessting to see how roads are leading back in the days before WW2. And dont know there was Palace located Pirnaischer Platz (nickname "Pirni"^^). Thx for this comparison :)
Well, the need for wider streets to accommodate more foot traffic, bicycles and trams is the reason why the narrow streets of the pre-1945 Dresden is likely not possible anymore.
@@Sacto1654 no, i am talking specifically about the facades of the buildings near Dresden Frauenkirche. Some of them are artificial modern and i don't find them suit well with the other old buildings. For example the windows
@@carolus5409 Compromises had to be made too, with regards to different architects who were involved in post-Cold War Dresden as well. As in to agree what was going to happen, including with regards to funds.
Schöne Bilder von früheren❤❤und heute sieht es aus wie😢😢, zusammen gewürfelt aus alles wieder aufbauen wie früher mit Barocke Architektur das bezahlen die Alliierten die das zerstort haben
@@Pretagon Vermutlich war die Lage 1989 in Berlin, Dresden und Leipzig ähnlich. Die Neubauten waren "preiswert", aber es gab zu wenige. Die Altbausubstanz war komplett verrottet und mit Außen-WC auf der Treppe. Viele Altbauwohnungen waren nicht mehr bewohnbar.
@@Pretagon Die paar Leute, die nach zig Jahren Wartezeit eine Zuteilung erhalten hatten. Währenddessen ist der ganze Altbestand verrottet aus Mangel an Ressourcen.
@@Jonas-Seiler In der ganzen DDR gab es Wohnraummangel und die Altstadtkerne sind verfallen. Außenklo ole. Stadtbild kaputt und unendlicher Sanierungsstau. Schwächen des Sozialismus halt.
Ich kann mir das nicht ansehen. Was am meisten schmerzt ist die Tatsache dass es viele Initiativen und Spender für historische Rekonstruktionen in Deutschland gibt aber dass die jeweilige Stadt diese Vorhaben oftmals ablehnen. Völlig unverständlich meiner Meinung nach. Es ist doch eigentlich ein Geschenk an die jeweilige Stadt. Siehe Frankfurt. Tausende stimmten für die Rekonstruktion des Schauspielhauses aber die Stadt (SPD, FDP, Volt und Grüne) haben sich dazu entschieden ein weiteren Betonklotz stattdessen zu bauen. Einfach traurig.
Dresden ist immer noch eine schöne Stadt. Und heute sicherlich Grüner als vor 1945. Außerdem wird es auch damals sicherlich Schmuddelecken gegeben haben, dazu der Ruß von der Kohlefeuerung. Das ändert nichts daran, dass unglaublich viel in diesen Februarnächten für immer verloren ging. Mein eigenes Stadtviertel ist heute geprägt von Plattenbauten. Auf historischem Fotos sieht man anstelle breite Boulevards mit großbürgerlichen Mehrfamilienhäusern, die ein wenig an Paris erinnern.
that DDR ''kulturpalast'' is beyond an eyesore,a litteral monstrosity..not mentioning the churches destroyed AFTER the war on the DDR's on because ''there was no place for gothic churches'' absolutely depressing,but the light of the situation i guess is that there is definitely some rebuilding.
1945 4…11 February in Yalta (Crimea, Russia) the Yalta Conference was held. At this conference the leaders of the anti-Hitler coalition discussed the post-war world, since the defeat of Nazi Germany was obvious: at that time the Western front passed along the Rhine, and the Eastern front passed along the Oder (Dresden is located 100 km west of the Oder) And just 2 days after the end of the conference, that is, on 13 February, the joint Anglo-American aviation bombed this city. I would like to draw attention to the fact that it was the Western countries Great Britain and the USA that headed to the Eastern Front, and without notifying the Soviet Union, which was crossing the Oder at that time, about this This was a gesture by the Anglo-Saxons that after the war with the USSR they would not be friends, but compete/fight. Destroying a large city (it was then called a museum city) so that it would not fall into the hands of the Russians - it seemed like a great idea. It was also known that there were no military facilities in the city, the air force simply destroyed all the housing stock and the city center, churches, museums and other public buildings. I repeat, all so that the city would not fall into the hands of the Russians About six months later, a similar trick would be pulled against Japan: when the USSR entered the war against Japan, it managed to quickly defeat the Kwantung (continental) Japanese army, and the main Japanese cities, including Tokyo, were destroyed by American bombing, the USA decided to use 2 nuclear bombs against people. This was done so that the Russians would not land troops on the Japanese islands and accept Japan's surrender in Tokyo, as the USSR had recently done in Berlin The cruelty of Britain and the United States is not inferior to the cruelty of Nazi Germany and militaristic Japan, but the winners are not judged
Das ist nicht korrekt. Auf dieser Konferenz baten die Russen die Briten und Amis explizit um militärische Unterstützung aus der Luft. Gemeinsam wurden an der Ostfront Ziele festgelegt, welche die RAF bombardieren sollte, um die Russen zu entlasten.
What beautiful cities Germany has, what a rich cultural past, what a shame that today Germans have lost their identity as a nation thanks to progressive policies. In a few decades, Germany will be Muslim, and all that past will be erased.
"Should we reconstruct? I have to answer the question unreservedly in the affirmative. Perhaps the number of people in Germany and abroad who can foresee what a vital loss, what a sad source of disease the destruction of the historical sites will prove to be is not yet so great. Not only is a great deal of great value in terms of tradition, beauty, objects of love and piety destroyed: the soul world of these descendants is also robbed of a substance without which people can survive in a pinch, but only lead a life that is a hundred times curtailed and stunted." HERMANN HESSE
An dieser Stelle ein herzliches Dankeschön an die Alliierten, die Deutschland von den geistigen Vätern der AfD befreit haben. Traurig um jedes Opfer, welches der Bombennacht von Dresden zum Opfer gefallen ist. Die Täter jedoch waren diejenigen, die der NSDAP in blindem Gehorsam gefolgt sind. Auch heute noch gibt es diese Mitläufermentalitäten und sie schreien brav und artig :"Nur noch AfD." Nichts haben sie gelernt.
Als Dresdner: Diese Architektur hat auch Ihre Stärken. Ich finde die Prager Straße mit ihren vielen Springbrunnen durchaus schön und auch den Kulturpalast. Ich wohne selbst in einem 70iger Jahre Plattenbau in Laufentfernung zum Stadtzentrum. 5 Plattenbauten und ein modernes Wohnhaus bilden hier einen großen (200 m lang) grünen Innenhof mit mehreren Spielplätzen. Ich kann meinen 6jährigen hier unbeabsichtigt zum Spielen rausschicken. Diese großen, Park- ähnlichen Innenhöfe hat es vor 1945 hier nicht gegeben. Short in Englisch: I live in Dresden, I find Prager Straße (the pedestrian area and main Shopping Street) and the communist style culture palas beautiful. In my quater, the communist style appartment buildings are build around big, green backyards with many opportunities for the Kids to Play!
damals voller nazis und heute wieder - then full of nazis and today again . das ist schwer zu ertragen - that is hard to bear - für mich als einwohner - for me as a resident
Dann ziehen Sie bitte weg aus Dresden, solche Menschen wie Sie brauchen wir hier nicht! Vielleicht sollten Sie auch mal die öffentlich rechtlichen Auschalten und sich eine eigene Meinung bilden. Das was Sie hier unterstellen hat definitiv nichts mit der Realität zu tun!
The whole world should know that such destruction and reconstruction are planned. Always! We can see it in Ukraine today. This has nothing to do with “the Germans”. It's always a game of high finance. Look at how the World Bank and Wall Street financed the Nazi regime...
In many places, the urban development and architecture could have easily been returned to the pre-war state. However, the city planning office is filled with modernists through and through. What drives these ideologists is their hatred of Dresden's building tradition, which was once world-famous. So it is not surprising that most of the good architectural designs in the classical style have not had a chance in competitions in recent years. Investors were systematically stalled with bureaucratic chicanery until they backed out. Citizens' dialogues have been held for years. Their sole purpose was to channel and divert justified discontent with the prevailing conditions. What has been raging in this city for decades is nothing other than a bitter cultural struggle between the representatives of contemporary urban repair and the backward-looking revoltists from the left-wing academic networks. The citizens of Dresden must watch helplessly as their beloved city is robbed of a historic opportunity.
It hurts to look at it, very much so. But - what if no German cities would have been bombed. Not sure, how those European countries invaded and destroyed by the Swastica would see that. Example Warsaw. I am German by the way.
Being evil action by another evil actions wasn't the right thing to do. Speaking from Poland, I would hope that Dresden wouldn't be destroyed and this history mistakes would not be repeated, as happened in the destruction of Warsaw.
Wer ist "Sie"? Wer wurde bestraft? Doch wohl die reine Zivilbevölkerung, oder? Da kann ich ja sagen, tja selber schuld die Polen, dass sie 1944 in Warschau nicht kapitulierten. Stattdessen haben sie nicht auf den deutschen Stadtkommandanten gehört. Nun wurden sie eben bestraft. So ist das im Krieg, gelle.
This attack on Dresden (and other German cities from the middle of 1944), in time of an already long-lost war, was also (and now thankfully recognized) a clear crime against humanity.
I’m British and I’m so ashamed of what my country did to Dresden. Whilst I know what Nazi Germany did was atrocious, there was no need to destroy those beautiful buildings
Wer 2 Weltkriege anfängt... Dafür musst du dich nicht schämen.
Dresden was really to much... that wasn't necessary
and now England is is in civil war- you get all these things back.
The feeling and taste of revenge after Coventry, Gdansk, Rotterdam and Warsaw etc. can be strong... All the suffering and death up until that point in early 1945, with the failure of Operation Market Garden in the back of your mind ... Hence, why never war on such a scale again.
@@victorsamsung2921 the winners make history…
I hope that they will rebuild more of the old town centre and surrounding area in the future,
I hope so too. If you can see what the citizens of Dresden have achieved in 30 odd years since 1990, you can only imagine how beautiful the city will be in the year 2045 etc. When its the 100th anniversary of the destruction ... and being that perfect symbol of resurrection and resilience.
The restoration of the Neustadter Markt will be the most challenging, due to the housing issue, bureaucracy and preservation of the DDR era etc., but the city council etc. will surely come around, when the number of tourists and tourism revenue in general will show them that pre-WW2 restoration is the way to go for the city of Dresden, for the present and the future.
Most unlikely. Greets from Dresden
Es tut so gut, die Beispiele zu sehen, wo der Unterschied zwischen den Bildern behoben wurde! Aber umso mehr tut es weh, die anderen Vergleiche zu sehen😢
Dresden hat uns sehr gut gefallen! Hatten einen kleinen Campingplatz für unseren Bulli gleich gegenüber der Frauenkirche direkt an der Elbe!👌
Traumhaft schön, besonders Abends wenn die Beleuchtung der Stadt zur Postkartenidylle wird!
Auch das Essen wie Wurst und Brot sind nicht zu vergleichen mit dem was wir hier in der Nord-Eifel bekommen!
Dresden und das nahe gelegene Elbsandsteingebirge sind absolut eine Reise wert! ❤
The destruction was done in 3 air raids by hundreds of planes dropping thousands of bombs. In less than 24 hours. At 9:30 pm on February 13 , 1945 everything built over centuries was still there. History around every corner at every turn one could look. By the evening of February 14 everything was gone. It is true the Prussian bombardment in 1760 during the Seven Years War caused significant damage to Dresden, one of THE most beautiful Baroque cities in Europe at the time. However, what happened less than 3 months before the end of World War 2 is beyond understanding. The debate regarding this will undoubtedly never end. "Dresden was a transportation hub for the Reich so it had to be done. " ( The train station was the one landmark that got through the bombing so trains were running again within 3 days. The fires from the bombs burned for a week. ) You can go to England and walk the streets of Oxford and Cambridge, visit the Cathedrals, (Salisbury's comes to mind. ) and these treasures are still there as they were. To compare what happened to one of the most beautiful cities in the world as revenge to what happened to Coventry, there is NO comparison. Perhaps compare what happened to Rostock in 1942, (still much worse) as revenge for Coventry, but not Dresden. What happened to Dresden was a war crime of the most sickening nature because besides obliterating an acknowledged center of Western Civilization of the highest order into total ashes from end to end (even the Grosse Garden and the Zoo) it was very well known by the Allies the city was full of refugees from Silesia by the tens of thousands. These civilians thought they would be safe because places like Oxford were never bombed. Yes, what happened to Rotterdam, the Blitz, the seige of Leningrad, Warsaw, the Concentration Camps were all horrible, but so was this. So was THIS.
The DDR plan to rebuilt the city after the war is as atrocious as the bombings, many landmarks and residential buildings that could have been restored were totally flattened because they "didn't have a place in a communist city". Luckily since reunification the old town have been rebuilt, and there are currently a lot of important reconstruction plans taking place, the more time will pass, the prettier Dresden will become, it's just a matter of patience and waiting.
Yes, I think this is true. Debate about the necessity to bomb the city will likely go on forever, but I think a better question is: where were these areas that were legitimate targets? Was every corner and every street a part of the war effort? If not then it was revenge bombing. Nuremberg is another example. Yes, it housed some industry which contributed to the war effort, but it doesn’t seem like the historic part of the city was involved. Yet, the Allies bombed it because it was also symbolic. Another terribly tragic event.
@@justjosh711 No the the old city was bombed packed with citizens and refugees. On the other side of the Elbe "new city" side there were the military targets which were left intact. This can only be intentional and therefore a serious war crime.
It seems a common occurrence for allied bombing raids to apparently outright avoid strategic targets while focusing on civilian ones. The train station and rail yard in Gießen also miraculously survived 75% of the city being leveled.
Exactly, that shouldn't happen
It’s so sad to think that, what took centuries to beautify, was destroyed in a matter of hours/days. What an atrocious tactic carpet (and fire) bombing was.
how brutal the idea of Nazism and the killing of civilians by the Germans was
Yes indeed, but I was told that because Dresden became part of Communist East Germany after the war the Communist authorities also destroyed large swathes of the beautiful baroque architecture of the city, so the Allied bombing wasn’t entirely to blame.
@@albertsmyth9616 Yes, that’s probably right. But I can’t imagine there was a lot still standing intact at that point, given how devastated the city was. I know the communists changed cityscapes to better reflect their ideology. So that wouldn’t surprise me. So the war was the first tragedy, and the communist takeover was the second.
@@albertsmyth9616
Is this the fault of the Allied bombing? Were the Allies supposed to surrender to the N*zis? Or maybe they should throw flowers at them?
The Germans destroyed Dresden themselves because they started the war.
(in Poland, the communists rebuilt many monuments destroyed by the Germans)
@@albertsmyth9616 Жаль, что не до конца разрушили
Another thought provoking piece of work by you... many thanks.
Thank you 😊
1:19 It looked gorgeous back then and today the restoration of some parts of the pre-WW2 era of Dresden has been good.
Gut aufbereitet, Dankeschön!
Bitte 😊
Wichtig ist, daß wir aus Fehlern lernen und dergleichen nicht wieder zulassen.Leider kommen mir immer mehr Zweifel ,ob Frieden und Anstand möglich sind,zuviele Menschenfeinde verdienen an Kriege,laß uns trotzdem optimistisch sein.❤❤
Sehr interessant, den Vergleich zu sehen (ohne viel Sprache und mit angemessener Musik). Als seit 2 Jahren "Wahl- Dresdnerin" lerne ich diese Stadt so aus anderer Perspektive kennen (Luftaufnahmen). Vielen Dank. Die Architektur des Wiederaufbaus (ab Theater/Zwinger stadteinwärts) steht sehr im Kontrast zu der "historischen Bauweise" (ab Postplatz), während das Gebiet um die Frauenkirche historisch nachgestaltet und gepflegt aussieht. Ich bin z. Z. zu Besuch in Weimar. Hier besteht z. Teil noch "Nachholbedarf" , was die Sanierung der Häuser in der Altstadt betrifft (bes. Nebenstrassen). Und am Stadtrand (am "alten Schlachthof) entsteht ein großes Neubau - Viertel in "Plattenbau- Format", crass! ("Borchert- Bogen"). Auch eine "interessante" Stadtentwicklung....
What a beautiful city. As an American, I'm very sad for what the "worst generation" here did to it during that period. Thank you for putting together these photos so that we can remember. Hopefully, it can all be rebuilt back to the way it was, and maybe even better.
Thank you. A lot of american’s spend money for the Frauenkirche reconstruction.
@user-yp2mw2ko9k As if one could predict the future in the world.
Warsaw??????
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Than you, but never forget the bombs fell 80 years ago. The reason it wasn't rebuilt as it has once been was/is policits alone ... one changing even historical cities for the worse. I will never blame the allies for this.
I think Dresdeners owe Kurt Vonnegut a monument. Without his "Slaughterhouse 5" about the bombing of Dresden, the destruction of that city would have been as forgotten as that of other ancient German cities (eg. Würzburg).
Und es gibt immer noch Menschen, die die DDR romantisieren.
was hat denn die DDR mit diesem Video zu tun?
Es war ja auch nicht alles schlecht
@@jakob9617
Guck dir mal den ganzen Plattenbau an.
Wie soll ich glücklich Leben wenn unsere Welt so aussahen und sehe was es heute ist
My hometown and still live here.
Must say today the city more beautiful than earlier times imo. Its not that crowded with buildings.
But its interessting to see how roads are leading back in the days before WW2. And dont know there was Palace located Pirnaischer Platz (nickname "Pirni"^^).
Thx for this comparison :)
Schon beim ersten Foto könnte ich heulen . Ein Unterschied zwischen Tag und Nacht .
Even what is rebuilt now is not so perfect, it has its typos. Sadly... why simply don't build the same as it was? it is the Historic Centre!
Well, the need for wider streets to accommodate more foot traffic, bicycles and trams is the reason why the narrow streets of the pre-1945 Dresden is likely not possible anymore.
@@Sacto1654 no, i am talking specifically about the facades of the buildings near Dresden Frauenkirche. Some of them are artificial modern and i don't find them suit well with the other old buildings. For example the windows
@carolus5409 These buildings were among the first to be reconstructed. After that, they had more experience and better laws
@@Sacto1654 if anything the streets were likely widened with cars in mind
@@carolus5409 Compromises had to be made too, with regards to different architects who were involved in post-Cold War Dresden as well. As in to agree what was going to happen, including with regards to funds.
Time and again impressive to see what could still be, not only in Dresden but everywhere in Germany and many other places in Europe.
Thats true!
War früher schöner...😶🌫️
Eine Bombennacht und 40 Jahre DDR tragen wahrlich nicht zu einem glow-up bei
looks like shit now
Dresden was once called the Florence on the Elbe, also Florence of the North. In German: Elbflorenz
Now it is Plattenbau-Florenz
@piwipete1928 🤪😊
@@piwipete1928Traurig, aber wahr😔😅
@@piwipete1928 call me crazy but I think quickly providing housing was a good move
Ein Vogelschiss kann viel zerstören Herr Gauland
Dieser Vogelschiss kam von der Alliierten Bomber Terrorbande
@@ph4nt0mHD
Und die "Alliierten Bomber Terrorbande" wurde von der brauen 💩angelockt, welche Europa mit Krieg überzogen hat.
Dieser Krieg damals war so unnötig. Nur wegen dem Wahn eines Mannes! Leider wiederholt sich die Geschichte aktuell.
das ist Quatsch, Hitler hat sicherlich nicht alleine Krieg geführt und ist sicherlich nicht ohne kräftige Unterstützung von oben an die Macht gekommen
Nie tylko jednego, ale wsparcia wielu innych. Zadbajcie o to, aby nie popełnić błędów przodków
Schöne Bilder von früheren❤❤und heute sieht es aus wie😢😢, zusammen gewürfelt aus alles wieder aufbauen wie früher mit Barocke Architektur das bezahlen die Alliierten die das zerstort haben
Sehr viel vom Stadtzentrum, als Dresdner hätten mich ein paar andere Ecken auch noch interessiert.
Da hat der Sozialismus aber auch harte Spuren hinterlassen im Stadtbild von Dresden.
naja wenigstens hatten die Leute billige Wohnungen auch wenn das nur ein kleiner Trost ist, wenn man sieht, was das mit dem Stadtbild gemacht hat
@@Pretagon Vermutlich war die Lage 1989 in Berlin, Dresden und Leipzig ähnlich. Die Neubauten waren "preiswert", aber es gab zu wenige. Die Altbausubstanz war komplett verrottet und mit Außen-WC auf der Treppe. Viele Altbauwohnungen waren nicht mehr bewohnbar.
Hätten die Leute besser auf der Straße schlafen sollen oder was
@@Pretagon Die paar Leute, die nach zig Jahren Wartezeit eine Zuteilung erhalten hatten. Währenddessen ist der ganze Altbestand verrottet aus Mangel an Ressourcen.
@@Jonas-Seiler In der ganzen DDR gab es Wohnraummangel und die Altstadtkerne sind verfallen. Außenklo ole. Stadtbild kaputt und unendlicher Sanierungsstau. Schwächen des Sozialismus halt.
Ich kann mir das nicht ansehen. Was am meisten schmerzt ist die Tatsache dass es viele Initiativen und Spender für historische Rekonstruktionen in Deutschland gibt aber dass die jeweilige Stadt diese Vorhaben oftmals ablehnen. Völlig unverständlich meiner Meinung nach. Es ist doch eigentlich ein Geschenk an die jeweilige Stadt. Siehe Frankfurt. Tausende stimmten für die Rekonstruktion des Schauspielhauses aber die Stadt (SPD, FDP, Volt und Grüne) haben sich dazu entschieden ein weiteren Betonklotz stattdessen zu bauen. Einfach traurig.
Weil es Antideutsche sind.
Dresden ist immer noch eine schöne Stadt. Und heute sicherlich Grüner als vor 1945. Außerdem wird es auch damals sicherlich Schmuddelecken gegeben haben, dazu der Ruß von der Kohlefeuerung. Das ändert nichts daran, dass unglaublich viel in diesen Februarnächten für immer verloren ging.
Mein eigenes Stadtviertel ist heute geprägt von Plattenbauten. Auf historischem Fotos sieht man anstelle breite Boulevards mit großbürgerlichen Mehrfamilienhäusern, die ein wenig an Paris erinnern.
Those tower blocks! Yuk!
That’s really sad!
" We are very grateful to the american and british government - they did a great job " - thank`s a lot
Now we have ugly boxes. We are going backwards!
that DDR ''kulturpalast'' is beyond an eyesore,a litteral monstrosity..not mentioning the churches destroyed AFTER the war on the DDR's on because ''there was no place for gothic churches''
absolutely depressing,but the light of the situation i guess is that there is definitely some rebuilding.
Der Wiederaufbau ist so halpatzig.... eine Schande..
1945 4…11 February in Yalta (Crimea, Russia) the Yalta Conference was held. At this conference the leaders of the anti-Hitler coalition discussed the post-war world, since the defeat of Nazi Germany was obvious: at that time the Western front passed along the Rhine, and the Eastern front passed along the Oder (Dresden is located 100 km west of the Oder)
And just 2 days after the end of the conference, that is, on 13 February, the joint Anglo-American aviation bombed this city. I would like to draw attention to the fact that it was the Western countries Great Britain and the USA that headed to the Eastern Front, and without notifying the Soviet Union, which was crossing the Oder at that time, about this
This was a gesture by the Anglo-Saxons that after the war with the USSR they would not be friends, but compete/fight. Destroying a large city (it was then called a museum city) so that it would not fall into the hands of the Russians - it seemed like a great idea. It was also known that there were no military facilities in the city, the air force simply destroyed all the housing stock and the city center, churches, museums and other public buildings. I repeat, all so that the city would not fall into the hands of the Russians
About six months later, a similar trick would be pulled against Japan: when the USSR entered the war against Japan, it managed to quickly defeat the Kwantung (continental) Japanese army, and the main Japanese cities, including Tokyo, were destroyed by American bombing, the USA decided to use 2 nuclear bombs against people. This was done so that the Russians would not land troops on the Japanese islands and accept Japan's surrender in Tokyo, as the USSR had recently done in Berlin
The cruelty of Britain and the United States is not inferior to the cruelty of Nazi Germany and militaristic Japan, but the winners are not judged
Das ist nicht korrekt. Auf dieser Konferenz baten die Russen die Briten und Amis explizit um militärische Unterstützung aus der Luft. Gemeinsam wurden an der Ostfront Ziele festgelegt, welche die RAF bombardieren sollte, um die Russen zu entlasten.
What beautiful cities Germany has, what a rich cultural past, what a shame that today Germans have lost their identity as a nation thanks to progressive policies. In a few decades, Germany will be Muslim, and all that past will be erased.
"Should we reconstruct? I have to answer the question unreservedly in the affirmative. Perhaps the number of people in Germany and abroad who can foresee what a vital loss, what a sad source of disease the destruction of the historical sites will prove to be is not yet so great. Not only is a great deal of great value in terms of tradition, beauty, objects of love and piety destroyed: the soul world of these descendants is also robbed of a substance without which people can survive in a pinch, but only lead a life that is a hundred times curtailed and stunted."
HERMANN HESSE
Die Rechnungen für den Wiederaufbau in die USA und nach Großbritannien schicken!!!!
An dieser Stelle ein herzliches Dankeschön an die Alliierten, die Deutschland von den geistigen Vätern der AfD befreit haben. Traurig um jedes Opfer, welches der Bombennacht von Dresden zum Opfer gefallen ist. Die Täter jedoch waren diejenigen, die der NSDAP in blindem Gehorsam gefolgt sind. Auch heute noch gibt es diese Mitläufermentalitäten und sie schreien brav und artig
:"Nur noch AfD." Nichts haben sie gelernt.
richtig dumm sowas zu schreiben, das hat sich nazideutschland selber verbockt. wie viele städte in europa wurden von den nazis verwüstet?
Oder an den wahnsinnigen Adolf.
Wer mordet, plündert und zerstört bekommt die Rechnung.
WIR bekommen schon Rechnungen u.a. aus Polen, Tschechien...
i hate russian communism architecture....
modern arquitecture is also increasingly more similar if not already the same as that horrible soviet arquitecture sadly
Same, the cccp flats are boring
Als Dresdner: Diese Architektur hat auch Ihre Stärken.
Ich finde die Prager Straße mit ihren vielen Springbrunnen durchaus schön und auch den Kulturpalast. Ich wohne selbst in einem 70iger Jahre Plattenbau in Laufentfernung zum Stadtzentrum. 5 Plattenbauten und ein modernes Wohnhaus bilden hier einen großen (200 m lang) grünen Innenhof mit mehreren Spielplätzen. Ich kann meinen 6jährigen hier unbeabsichtigt zum Spielen rausschicken. Diese großen, Park- ähnlichen Innenhöfe hat es vor 1945 hier nicht gegeben.
Short in Englisch: I live in Dresden, I find Prager Straße (the pedestrian area and main Shopping Street) and the communist style culture palas beautiful. In my quater, the communist style appartment buildings are build around big, green backyards with many opportunities for the Kids to Play!
und ich hasse diejenigen, die die alte architektur zerstört haben
damals voller nazis und heute wieder - then full of nazis and today again . das ist schwer zu ertragen - that is hard to bear - für mich als einwohner - for me as a resident
spinnst du?
So ein Unsinn.... Wahrscheinlich nie da gewesen, aber dem linken Mediengeschwätz glauben, sehr amselig, hinfahren, Stadt und Menschen genießen
Ja, Nazis überall.
Lol.
@@robojokes2274das geile in den Aufnahmen ist das Kleine Flugzeug von der SA
Das spricht Bände.
Dann ziehen Sie bitte weg aus Dresden, solche Menschen wie Sie brauchen wir hier nicht!
Vielleicht sollten Sie auch mal die öffentlich rechtlichen Auschalten und sich eine eigene Meinung bilden. Das was Sie hier unterstellen hat definitiv nichts mit der Realität zu tun!
Sad to see that the war took so many beautiful cities so that germans could finally learn a lesson.
Have you learned your lesson too?
Learn what lesson? That they shouldn't strive to be free and have self-determination?
The whole world should know that such destruction and reconstruction are planned. Always! We can see it in Ukraine today. This has nothing to do with “the Germans”. It's always a game of high finance. Look at how the World Bank and Wall Street financed the Nazi regime...
@@jimmim3000 starting a world war is not really a way to "be free and self-determinated"
@@17DEA93 They didn't start the war, boomer. It was self defense against what was happening in Prussia. Do a little research.
In many places, the urban development and architecture could have easily been returned to the pre-war state. However, the city planning office is filled with modernists through and through. What drives these ideologists is their hatred of Dresden's building tradition, which was once world-famous. So it is not surprising that most of the good architectural designs in the classical style have not had a chance in competitions in recent years. Investors were systematically stalled with bureaucratic chicanery until they backed out. Citizens' dialogues have been held for years. Their sole purpose was to channel and divert justified discontent with the prevailing conditions. What has been raging in this city for decades is nothing other than a bitter cultural struggle between the representatives of contemporary urban repair and the backward-looking revoltists from the left-wing academic networks. The citizens of Dresden must watch helplessly as their beloved city is robbed of a historic opportunity.
Just move to Moscow and everybody is happy. Including the majority of Dresden.
Wer sind "alle"????? Warum "Moskau"??? Wenn andere von "Na-zi" reden?? @@kristopher0815
It hurts to look at it, very much so. But - what if no German cities would have been bombed. Not sure, how those European countries invaded and destroyed by the Swastica would see that. Example Warsaw. I am German by the way.
Being evil action by another evil actions wasn't the right thing to do. Speaking from Poland, I would hope that Dresden wouldn't be destroyed and this history mistakes would not be repeated, as happened in the destruction of Warsaw.
Sad
Ponieśli karę za zbrodnie przeciwko ludzkości. Ale strata zabytków to strata dla nas wszystkich
Wer ist "Sie"? Wer wurde bestraft? Doch wohl die reine Zivilbevölkerung, oder? Da kann ich ja sagen, tja selber schuld die Polen, dass sie 1944 in Warschau nicht kapitulierten. Stattdessen haben sie nicht auf den deutschen Stadtkommandanten gehört. Nun wurden sie eben bestraft. So ist das im Krieg, gelle.
This attack on Dresden (and other German cities from the middle of 1944), in time of an already long-lost war, was also (and now thankfully recognized) a clear crime against humanity.
Ein Angriff auf zivile Ziele ist durch nichts zu rechtfertigen. Wer dies tut, relativiert Kriegsverbrechen- Punkt!
😔 How stupid..
Nie powinno się tak traktować innych, tyle cennych zabytków kultury zostało zniszczonych