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  • Опубликовано: 29 дек 2024

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  • @Atomik0468
    @Atomik0468 Год назад +224

    "I too am a Trap Enjoyer" - Havok

  • @Jondaliner
    @Jondaliner Год назад +189

    1:17 sir I'm gonna need you to give me back my footage 👀

  • @NaturesWrath
    @NaturesWrath Год назад +77

    Havok: "She has to do the sweep some time..."
    The Valk: "He has to throw the unblockable some time..."

  • @Buckethead1_2
    @Buckethead1_2 Год назад +89

    The problem with the rework is it didn’t address his main issue: no reasonable openers. It just gave him a better offensive chain, but getting into that chain was the part that needed help.

    • @PinkPrior
      @PinkPrior Год назад +10

      Conq main issue was/is a no roll catcher so this is just a trend now 🥲

    • @ig5316
      @ig5316 Год назад +6

      ​@PinkPrior I advocate for bring back Conq crushing counters.

    • @Mr_Edwards_1995
      @Mr_Edwards_1995 Год назад +4

      This is a main reason I stopped playing conk. Crushing counter heavy was so unique. It was hard to pull off but god when you did it felt so good.

    • @alaszrar6202
      @alaszrar6202 Год назад +1

      He has the bash, idk what you're complaining about

    • @redacted8472
      @redacted8472 Год назад

      no roll catchers as well. thats why he gets bullied in teamfights

  • @cwrr2330
    @cwrr2330 Год назад +23

    They removed stamina damage, blind confusion thing, the guarantee impale, nerfed damage everywhere, all for a light parry punish and a shitty hyper armor on your second heavy.

    • @Sendoh.153
      @Sendoh.153 Год назад +11

      Which most people never let fly because it’s easily parried

    • @AudioJeep
      @AudioJeep Год назад +3

      Basically they completely eliminated the heroes soul and everything that made him unique to replace it with generic garbage.

  • @silverbashspam9701
    @silverbashspam9701 Год назад +68

    they should've reworked impale instead of just removing it and lawbringer's neutral pressure still hasnt changed a bit which was one the most frustrating parts of LB

    • @kaczynskifan78
      @kaczynskifan78 Год назад +18

      Don’t know why they didn’t just give him a light-light-heavy chain to help make his neutral game a little less predictable because he still suffers from the same problem he’s always had where you know he can only throw a heavy after a light

    • @51TD0wN
      @51TD0wN Год назад +5

      His lackluster pressure was what made him unique, and what made up for him having strong parry punishes. Having definable strengths and weaknesses is what makes characters feel unique. I liked the challenge of having to throw at least one heavy to get to the chain finisher. There was strategy there that wasn't found in any other hero. Maybe you didn't like that, and Havok didn't like that clearly, but that doesn't make it bad or "unhealthy." And the whole reason it was rebalanced was because of how strong it was in ranked duels at the top 0.1%. Games should never balance for the top 0.1% of players because it just results in everyone being variations of the same 3 characters.

    • @silverbashspam9701
      @silverbashspam9701 Год назад +5

      @@51TD0wN i gotta say as a rep 70 LB main the impale was way too strong they could've just reworked it so it doenst stun and drain half of ur stamina for example, make it the same range as warmonger and the same mechanic too maybe because no one is complaining about WM having 30dmg of a heavy parry, and also would've liked if they kept the stun on the parry riposte instead of instantly giving him a unblockable to work it. But it is what it is, conq 2.0

    • @dimlumens
      @dimlumens Год назад +1

      ⁠@@silverbashspam9701actually a lot of people complain about warmongers impale, because it is very unhealthy as a heavy parry punish, but that’s why they should just reduce the damage, with lawbringer they just decided to completely gut the move to the point that there is no reason to use it unless there’s a ledge, because top heavy after a light parry will always be more damage

    • @silverbashspam9701
      @silverbashspam9701 Год назад +3

      @@dimlumens haven't seen a person complain about WM impale when playing her, LB impale on the other hand almost everytime i play him, then again afeera gets 18 or 43 damage of a heavy parry and on top of that she has really strong offense so it makes no sense completley removing impale instead of just reworking it since LB offense has really mid offense at least from neutral

  • @timagoj999
    @timagoj999 Год назад +58

    The “rework” feels more like a nerf then an actual change to the character

    • @volant6688
      @volant6688 Год назад +18

      Because it is.

    • @FelFawn
      @FelFawn Год назад

      ​@volant6688 Figures with this game-
      ..How many years did it take for Lawbringer to be less of a turtle?

    • @volant6688
      @volant6688 Год назад

      @@FelFawn Good question, started playing around last december, played LB I think in January, didn't play as a turtle, I was quite agressive for a while until I tried to train for the light parries and that's it. Now I deleted the game because I'm more of a reflex guy, not a reading guy, with I think a rep 26 LB.

    • @timagoj999
      @timagoj999 Год назад

      @@FelFawn probably ever since they removed bash on block in what I think was 2019 so about 2 years

    • @metro9376
      @metro9376 Год назад

      @@timagoj999he needs that bash on block back

  • @kouriichi
    @kouriichi Год назад +16

    I think the biggest problem with the rework is that they removed some oddities (like the blind and stamina damage) that made him feel like a heavy hitter, and all he really got in return was slightly better light combos, his longarm isn't *literally* unusable, and a soon to be gimped light parry punish? He still feels like "Lawbringer", just a less interesting version of it. He's still slow as fuck, terrible at chases/catching rolls, and still revolves around constant heavy feints. I know changing him too much would be a problem, but it barely feels like change.
    Just tweaked to be less of an asshole.

  • @funpolice146
    @funpolice146 Год назад +11

    0:25 seeing lawbringer trade with hyperarmor just feels illegal XD

  • @saechabashira8380
    @saechabashira8380 Год назад +8

    When you're an OG FH player, hearing a 38dmg light parry punish is "broken" when there were 45dmg originally (LB UB or Raider's Top Heby as example), it really hurts man!

    • @HavokYT
      @HavokYT  Год назад +4

      Yeah haha, crazy how bad it was back then

    • @Faputa-Sosu
      @Faputa-Sosu Год назад +1

      Was it bad? The game was much slower so me thinks it wasn't as bad. It was uber defensive from what I remember so it was really hard to get anything to land.@@HavokYT

    • @HavokYT
      @HavokYT  Год назад +3

      Yeah but there was a tonne of gimmicks and exploits

    • @Faputa-Sosu
      @Faputa-Sosu Год назад

      @@HavokYT it’s been so long I hardly remember lol.

  • @wulfious3606
    @wulfious3606 Год назад +4

    Yooo!!! Havok!! I was the Red Shaolin You fought! (PKdis) I appreciated the fight! And i really didn't know they changed lawbro, so I wasn't ready for that GB Barrage. GGs.

  • @MrJuugo
    @MrJuugo Год назад +4

    Yo Havok , max punish for wall splat is Long Arm , right heavy , then top light . Deals a total of 29 damage now

  • @cat_pwner6999
    @cat_pwner6999 Год назад +4

    "I don't like this character guys 😔... EEEeeEeeEeeEE~~ 🎶"

  • @dementiagaming8
    @dementiagaming8 Год назад +2

    Man i feel like the impale was the funny goofy move for the law but its gone not completely but 😫😫😫

  • @TheMrclean1234
    @TheMrclean1234 Год назад +3

    BTW since you don't have your numbers on there's no longer any point and throwing people into wall as law, it does less damage the just the guardbreak punish, so its just a waste of stamina

  • @bash6002
    @bash6002 Год назад +2

    He’s still lacking in neutral pressure; they addressed half of the issue which was his chain mixup

  • @SoI_Badguy
    @SoI_Badguy Год назад +3

    I still hate lawbringer from the days after his first rework before the CCU... i played berserker. He guesses right one time on your 11 damage lights, and he could erase half your health bar with his 50 damage punish. It was so stupid. He killed you with like 3 reads and you needed to make 14 to kill him.

  • @Oznerol1234
    @Oznerol1234 Год назад +3

    I dont get why they didnt give him two light chain to access his UB.
    It could have been so much better since that rework isnt so different from what he was before.
    There are some QOL improvements such as HA heavies, zone start chain and less stamina consumption and heavy confirm into UB.
    But lost all his parry punishes which affects him really bad.
    Still no roll catch.
    He needs two light chain, roll catcher and he'll be in a better spot.

    • @Ninjasteve619
      @Ninjasteve619 Год назад

      Fax

    • @felismenari
      @felismenari Год назад

      That's what I've been saying. He doesn't need a full three string. Two would be just fine for LB. And as you say, a roll catcher on top of that would round out LB's moveset. As things currently stand, he still feels incomplete, lacking. Was excited for the rework, but after playing with it a bit, I may just go back to WM.

  • @fadoki3156
    @fadoki3156 Год назад +7

    Fought you earlier. GG's man 🤝🏼

  • @Sir_ShadowZ__
    @Sir_ShadowZ__ Год назад +1

    The devs when LB feinting a 13 damage bash is broken but HL having a 24 damage kick be feintable is fine.

  • @akumafoxknight7140
    @akumafoxknight7140 Год назад +2

    In dules he feels the same just gotta stare as him still tho sadly feels the same in both dules and team fights although in team fights he can’t really kill anyone unless he has help or makes every right read his dmg numbers feel weird but I like the chain pressure when I don’t get lighted out of it

  • @cruzcontrol8717
    @cruzcontrol8717 Год назад +7

    Lb needs this after the neutering they gave him, especially since he has no chase or roll catch to speak of :)

    • @FelFawn
      @FelFawn Год назад

      Others seem to disagree

  • @austinrenfro290
    @austinrenfro290 Год назад +5

    I don't like the rework honestly i feel they for rid of 50 the rework that was posted but with that said i think they should patch the 38 but buff the normal damage of lawbringer by 2 points cant tell u how many times i have guard broke someone and did a have just for them to have 2 health left and pressure me with everything because i was limited on my kit

    • @5446or5446
      @5446or5446 Год назад

      He has 25 damage gb punish which is above average.

  • @autismusmaximus9958
    @autismusmaximus9958 Год назад

    Do you have a normal controller or you play with custom controller. (With pads underneeth?)

  • @Angel-ob8md
    @Angel-ob8md Год назад +6

    I’m not entirely sure how to feel about this rework, feels like a lot of quality of life buffs rather than innovation, granted when they did try they screwed it up 😭 and still managed to remove his personality with the impale especially

    • @uzielperez2446
      @uzielperez2446 Год назад +2

      Impale was unhealthy for the game

    • @Techno_Bunny433
      @Techno_Bunny433 Год назад +6

      ​@@uzielperez2446coulda reworked it, lowerd the range and then damage. But that wouldn've taken a smidgeon of Creativity from ubisoft 😂

    • @uzielperez2446
      @uzielperez2446 Год назад +1

      @@Techno_Bunny433 💀💀

    • @DrLobotimus
      @DrLobotimus Год назад +2

      @@uzielperez2446 Compared to other characters in the game, the impale was the least problematic.

    • @knightmare1267
      @knightmare1267 Год назад

      ​@DrLobotimus he was 2nd best in duels, and way too boring to fight. He definitely needed a rework, this one just kinda flopped.

  • @ragedroyd1259
    @ragedroyd1259 Год назад +3

    no way a South African against Havok lesss gooo!

    • @FelFawn
      @FelFawn Год назад

      Why does that matter?

  • @baileymarsden1053
    @baileymarsden1053 Год назад +1

    Reworked hero with the same problems and still is good at what he used to be good at so in a way, nothing has been changed, just can chain more. Now that impale is gone on LB, time to remove it from Warmonger but they wont do that 🙃

  • @alphaomega9809
    @alphaomega9809 Год назад +1

    Lb was nerfed hard, but hey… We got hyper armor on chain heavy 😅😕

  • @coldoats5492
    @coldoats5492 Год назад +11

    Im also a trap enjoyer

  • @supa_maxi4103
    @supa_maxi4103 Год назад

    man, all the rep 70s lawbringers fell out of bed when the rework came out

  • @larsmeeldijk5481
    @larsmeeldijk5481 Год назад

    Imagine fighting one of those dodge attack addicts with this new lawbringer

  • @P41ma1
    @P41ma1 Год назад

    Lol originally i viewed the video with no sound at work so when i saw the longarm i thought it was jon😂i didactic notice it was havok

  • @gemalbest1
    @gemalbest1 Год назад

    @Havok do u prefer Griff over Law.? I like rework Law.! This rework going to play Law way more now.!

  • @craberadicator9446
    @craberadicator9446 Год назад

    His UB is probably the strongest thing in duels tbh
    Soft fient 32 damage 50/50 that chains into itself, and is way too easy to access.

  • @omeryesilyurt2435
    @omeryesilyurt2435 Год назад +2

    damn ur very well on lawbringer and watching lawbringer is funny

  • @turq1824
    @turq1824 Год назад

    I was under the impression that everyone liked LB, glad to know I’m not the only one who never liked him

  • @kingoftheuniverse3374
    @kingoftheuniverse3374 Год назад +1

    Been playing LB since season 1 after playing Holden in the campaign. With all the ups and downs he's had, this is probably his healthiest version rn. Don't forget we had shove on block just a few years ago. Then rapid-fire top-lights. I will agree on the fact that impale riposte on heavy was busted, especially in duels (on The Ring and Belvedere maps more specifically). As well as the removal of his stamina damage and stuns, though I will miss denting skulls with a flashbang attached to the hammer of the pole axe head. This version of LB feels good: 7.5/10.

  • @delta9202
    @delta9202 Год назад

    Do they don’t playtest anymore?? How did someone look at this and was like „that’s a thing now“

  • @VixyBri
    @VixyBri Год назад

    the rework makes him feel like a clunkier Raider that cant SF into the top light. Not that he should be able to, but he just doesnt have anything to open up, just things for when people are already pressured

  • @maxvosper9420
    @maxvosper9420 Год назад +1

    Havok can you play Medjay? I don't think I have ever seen you play that hero

  • @lukasobler5413
    @lukasobler5413 Год назад +1

    I‘m a 55 Rep Lawbringer and i think i will never play him any more, very sad overall For Honor is not the same anymore they taken away the uniqueness of every Character and simplify every Character :( Bye For Honor after 2500 hours of playing

  • @DaRealFantomas
    @DaRealFantomas Год назад +2

    Wow a rework that the character is basically the same but worse with no openers and just a faster chain. Sure I will continue playing lawbringer (doubt).

    • @DaRealFantomas
      @DaRealFantomas Год назад

      Sorry for the mald but i have not seen a positive comment about it except "Impale was unhealthy", like at least address his problems after nerfing the impale and the damage.

    • @Oznerol1234
      @Oznerol1234 Год назад +2

      Glad that I got to rep 70 before that rework

  • @sword0115
    @sword0115 Год назад

    My friend has played nothing but Lawbringer since he started playing, literally has never touched another character.
    I feel bad for him because they've basically ruined Lawbringer with this rework

  • @tysoncrown785
    @tysoncrown785 Год назад

    This whole video is just a "I couldn't be bothered vibe."

  • @CEOdosPutos
    @CEOdosPutos Год назад +1

    " I too am a trap enjoyer" - Havok
    I got you Havok...i surely do

  • @monthekey7
    @monthekey7 Год назад

    I just miss the hyperarmor cool animataed shigoki hug looked sexy even if broken 😅

  • @danielriano5591
    @danielriano5591 Год назад

    When’s the TikTok reaction video coming?

  • @Ben-cw2ey
    @Ben-cw2ey Год назад

    Honestly I don’t even notice the rework by watching gameplay

  • @AMT_AllMyThoughts
    @AMT_AllMyThoughts Год назад +2

    Lawdaddy Childbringer is actually pretty dope to me now.
    His unhealthy stuff in gangs and on heavy parries is gone.
    But he got some DAMN great upgrades in his offensive combos.
    Still on a heavy parry he gets a fast counter light that goes into his armored heavy, so I actually can punish heavies now in antiganks and be a bit save after it.
    Or just use my UB zone after a parry.
    Light parry to his upper heavy goes straight into his string finisher mixup again or I can just ledge them when a cliff is a kilometer behind him.
    And longarm is actually usefull now.
    So I feel good about him.😊

  • @evanworthington82
    @evanworthington82 Год назад +1

    After seeing the Jorm and Lawbro reworks and both of thier stamina damage got removed (needed to with how good the offense is now) I am worried that my BP will be reworked and also get his stam dmg removed and turned into an offensive character

  • @lorddoinkus9912
    @lorddoinkus9912 Год назад

    Lawbringer is labeled as a counter attacker yet he's got worse counter attacks to many other hero's. Aside from the bugged light parry he's just not worth playing. He just needs some better flow honestly

  • @SaintStephen0529
    @SaintStephen0529 Год назад

    Yo been looking for the upload for 3 days 😔

  • @JDHD99
    @JDHD99 Год назад

    Maaan I really would of the three lights…

  • @THEGRIMREAPER-sq6ed
    @THEGRIMREAPER-sq6ed Год назад

    It indeed fact doesn't need to go 😂

  • @josephsmith754
    @josephsmith754 Год назад

    I will say ur lb drip is looking nice despite u only being rep 10

  • @donsimons9810
    @donsimons9810 Год назад

    looking forward to HL TGs

  • @thequietman9820
    @thequietman9820 Год назад

    Hes stam is not on par for what he has to do to get any mix ups

  • @Zianox_
    @Zianox_ Год назад +2

    There's the small sliver of hope I had for this game gone down the drain 💀

  • @joshua-rc8wr
    @joshua-rc8wr Год назад

    @havok youre in a for honor map cause theres a warden with a punisher skull on him!

    • @joshua-rc8wr
      @joshua-rc8wr Год назад

      i only found him in ranked duels

  • @kkikkei2828
    @kkikkei2828 Год назад

    make an advanced warden guide video

  • @Black55478
    @Black55478 Год назад

    remember when it did 50

  • @Tit_NoUnOuRs_xD
    @Tit_NoUnOuRs_xD Год назад +1

    It’s a nerf not a rework ubi just doesn’t try to play the game , shame

  • @GalenMarekOfficial
    @GalenMarekOfficial Год назад

    At this point, whoever claims Nuxia isnt S tier is straight up lying about having more than 10h of playtime ^^ And theres many of those individuals, hooked on copium.

  • @Techno_Bunny433
    @Techno_Bunny433 Год назад +4

    Goofy ass rework 💀

  • @BillyThatGoat
    @BillyThatGoat Год назад

    "Trap Enjoyer" Lol

  • @enolquindosgonzalez1900
    @enolquindosgonzalez1900 Год назад

    This LB rework is atrocious. THe hyperarmor on the in chain heavy is the only real improvement. They have trivialize his offense too much, and don`t get me started on the parry punishes.

  • @asura3967
    @asura3967 Год назад

    The rework isn’t terrible but when playing against good players his neutral game is still lacking a bit and in dominion he’s still not viable. In my opinion his rework wasn’t really a rework.

  • @Rizzhardt69TV
    @Rizzhardt69TV Год назад +1

    First, is this in game fully?

    • @uzielperez2446
      @uzielperez2446 Год назад +1

      It's a bug will definitely be removed

    • @TrustedFemboy
      @TrustedFemboy Год назад

      Yeah the rework is fully out, but the confirmed bash after light parry punish is a bug.

  • @dragonknight6972
    @dragonknight6972 Год назад

    it feels like a nerf

  • @dippywilson3741
    @dippywilson3741 Год назад

    I’m really not a fan of the rework. Yeah there’s 38 dmg on a light parry, hurray. But the impale parry punish is effectively useless now, there’s just not really a situation in which it’s the best choice. The hyper armor honestly feels underwhelming, and all of the other stuff they were showing off just doesn’t exist now. Oh and there’s a softfeint, it’s just one less button press to something we already did. It’s not a rework… again, and that’s the most disappointing part

  • @francoprinsloo8069
    @francoprinsloo8069 Год назад

    I just now noticed Havok was fighting a South African at the start so I'm quite happy SA was represented even tho he ate hits

    • @FelFawn
      @FelFawn Год назад

      What do you mean by represented?

  • @Crash2290
    @Crash2290 Год назад

    ........... 38 confirmed is ridiculous.... and the highlander rework is insane... theres no way they keep everything in there
    ...

  • @tommyjarvisstepgrandfather4581

    Big highlander rework and everyone play lawbringer??? Makes sense lol, why hasn’t anyone even looked at the main rework of this update?

  • @ig5316
    @ig5316 Год назад +4

    The parry to charge wasn't *that* overpowered. It was a reward for a parry and being near a wall. They shouldn't have nerfed it.

    • @HavokYT
      @HavokYT  Год назад +6

      Nah bs

    • @-evolution-8681
      @-evolution-8681 Год назад +3

      it was

    • @owengeorge3232
      @owengeorge3232 Год назад

      Bruh really, u didn't have to be next to a wall because the distance is stupidly long, it was op because u got a top heavy wat stuns u, does Stam damage and 24 damage, is fucking broken

    • @owengeorge3232
      @owengeorge3232 Год назад

      On a heavy parry

    • @FelFawn
      @FelFawn Год назад

      It made him fun.. Can't they make him fun at least after the bad reworks that took centuries?

  • @knightsofsumeria
    @knightsofsumeria Год назад

    Buff to 150 damage

  • @LiamLearn
    @LiamLearn Год назад

    What do you mean fix it?????

    • @HavokYT
      @HavokYT  Год назад +1

      As in not give 38 dmg, probably delay the bash after top heavy idk

  • @KzWazoo
    @KzWazoo Год назад

    Why the hell do you sound like nova king

  • @tommyjarvisstepgrandfather4581

    Play highlander!!

  • @gustavomatos7338
    @gustavomatos7338 Год назад

    The only thing they should've done is remove impale on heavy parry and maybe give him a bit more neutral options. I don't know, something like raider tap, if you initiate with a side heavy you could press Light and LB would do the tap. The tap animation already exists for Christ's sake lol

  • @reposter6434
    @reposter6434 Год назад

    Just make the bash after light parry not confirmed and we all good

  • @OkamiVtuber
    @OkamiVtuber Год назад

    Lawbringers top doesn't do 38 lol. It does around 20 something can't remember.

    • @isaiahslaver2795
      @isaiahslaver2795 Год назад

      Unblockable heavy after parry is 25 + the 13 light from the currently bugged guaranteed bash makes 38.

  • @kylecuccatti2879
    @kylecuccatti2879 Год назад

    PLEASE READ BEFORE SINKING TIME INTO THIS GAME
    Great game, great concept; only problem is, it's full of cheaters. I've been playing for 4 years and have seen a huge swarm of players using AHK scripts. The script allows people to parry all attacks (even feinted if using paid version), dodge all openers (shinobi's kicks, glad toestabs) parry unblockables, auto deflect, everything. It's virtually undetectable client side, so they can't do anything (anti cheat doesn't catch it). I found their discord server after some googling and there is a paid and free version of the script. Completely pointless to play anymore until this is dealt with, which it never will be. 7 year old game that has made whatever money it's going to make.
    I wouldn't put anymore time into this game.

  • @audiomac
    @audiomac Год назад

    I actually respectfully disagree about your take on the light parry damage. Lights are difficult to parry. So, I think it makes sense that they do a lot of damage. But who am I to say? I preferred the game pre-CCU lol.

  • @uzielperez2446
    @uzielperez2446 Год назад

    First

  • @victornguyen1175
    @victornguyen1175 Год назад

    People are lying to themselves so hard thinking this is a nerf. Its not a good rework, but it is the farthest thing from a nerf imaginable

  • @toetmined5299
    @toetmined5299 Год назад +2

    Another Lawbringer RUclipsr... How original 🙄

  • @eggben3709
    @eggben3709 Год назад +8

    I think the rework is fine. Of course the parry punish needs to be fixed and his OOS punishes are still rather high, but he feels less oppresive while still being a defensive powerhouse. With a couple small tweaks I think he'll be the hero he should've been a long time ago

  • @_wolf_2336
    @_wolf_2336 Год назад

    The rework is trash like they toke away shove 😢. I like the combos and stuff but the shove 😢.. and that hyper armor is a nice add but the shove 😢.. making the shove a light parry thing toke away the parry top heavy unblockabke's satisfaction..now the shove is only nice when it's on a ledge