Don't Focus on Coding Learn Concepts Instead
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- Опубликовано: 16 фев 2020
- Sup Amigos, Nelson here
You will be better off learning any concept well rather than mastering code first. Coding will always be the easiest part of software development. Trust me.
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Unfortunately, they don’t teach this in universities. Not once did my professors teach us about API’s, microservices, web frameworks, etc. Even basic JavaScript, I had to learn on my own.
Samsul Hoque youtube and google are your true allies when it comes to learning not your professors
You're right bro, they don't teach these technologies
that's because most of the lecturers have no idea how it's like to work in a real company.
Sad to say, you are right. But when I'm taking my Masters Degree thats the only time only when they teach how important basic structure, concepts, api etc...
Don't cry, me neither, and I'm from a third world country (as US people says) haha
Learn/understand data structures and algorithms thoroughly and have a solid foundation in logic and discrete math and you'll be strong as acid!
yup you right
I tried to learn data structures & algorithms, but it's hard. How does one learn and understand data structures and algorithms?
@@victoriadathan2675 college, nothing can compare to structured courses you get from a college degree.... Starting with math and then designing algorithms.
@@victoriadathan2675 always try to find a model in the real world. there's only a few concepts that you need to get down, and all the rest are various versions. it's CRUCIAL that you lear the concept and not the specific flavor of a concept. I'll give you an example. What's volume? you might say L x W x H. That's actually a specific flavour of the concept. In reality "volume" is actually a function where you multiply each dimension. It just so happens that the most common "volume" is 3-dimensions, but if you had 10 dimensions, volume would just be X1 x X2 x .... X10. You absolutely can and must self teach.
N.W.A. Ok, thanks. That’s makes sense.
The first step is defining the problem on a white page with a pen and drawings: get clear with what you want to be done and the outcome.
Once it's done, describe in general ideas the functions you'll use: the big blocks. Clear name with what inputs, what output.
Then once the gigsaw is working on paper and in your mind, you do in pseudocode the algorithms on paper.
And after than you start to code. Don't spend time at the computer. The game is out of the computer. It's maths, maths, maths.
Goal
design
analysis
organization
code
You are absolutely right my man and you essentially described a process similar to the engineering process.
That's right. also use project management tools.
It’s systems and processes with steps from beginning to end
This approach is somewhat similar to TDD, isnt it?
This is a very important concept to keep in a mind especially as a beginner. I find myself going back and re-reading the instructions/requirements given to the application to be written as a beginner. This way..concepts are realized both before and after implementation in order to REALLY learn! 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Quality content as always!
I totally agree with you Nelson, for each problem that I face first of all I'm using the "Divide and Conquer" method, I break the problem to little small problems and try to solve each
of them separately and then merge the solutions.
One more thing that I found useful for myself is to solve problems using pseudocode - just writing the solution in plain English (or your native language) words what each step in the solution will
do, furthermore I found my self learning concepts better when I read books about the material this is why it takes my 2x more time to finish a feature or a small project because I try to understand all the bits and pieces that I'm about to use (not sure it's a good practice for all but it's working for me, and when asked why I did it this way and not the other way I have solid understating about what I've used so I can thoroughly explain it).
Only when I have a clear view of the things that must be done I sit and start to write code so it's like 70% planing, understating and sketching a solution on a whiteboard and 30% of the time is writing code.
Yup could not agree more with you buddy absolutely. Great response
Thank you for sharing the tips. I have been doing the other way which makes me stuck in a Limbo. I might try to use your method because it makes sense, thank you.
I have the same routine; not sure if its i am older (48) and that my preference for physical books has something to do with it!
Rro one question, who is the two mentioned names !?🤔
@@amigoscode I have a question my first course at college is Introduction to computer science c++ after the next semester should I focus more on c++ or different languages
You know, it's easy to be obsessed with learning how to code in different languages. But as learn to code more and more, I realized that I still can't implement any of the ideas on my mind. Just last I was searching for resources on data structures and algorithms. This video has helped me to understand my problem better.
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@@amigoscode hey bro, any good data structure material u can recommend. been watching tones of video and not getting anything out of them.
Currently in my work placement. Working as a software engineer in a professional setting really re-enforces this idea. I was so worried about my coding knowledge etc. But the most important thing is knowing what you need to do and how to achieve it, you can learn and develop your syntax as needed.
If you have a good foundation in a coding language, you should be able to apply that across different languages implementing the same concepts, just different syntax.
This is now why I am researching coding concepts and how I found this video
Thank you Nelson! I finished your course about spring boot and react and also the one about spring security. Now I’m busy with Postgres course and docker will be next. Thank you very much for all these wonderful courses and keep up the good work.
Thanks Ahmed 😊
This man’s gonna make it big someday
Only ALLAH knows the Future.
Insh'Allah
I agreed with everything that you told me Nelson, Programming language is just a tool, that allow us developers to solve certain kind of problems, I used to think to be master at some programming language, but I was wrong, I was so overwhelmed and stressed to pick up every single concept and functions and I forgot the golden rule about programming itself, basically do not focus on language, focus to solve a problem, and that's it, everything became way easier for me.
Every time I code, for some reason I am afraid to forget this syntax, I say with my inner voice to me that I have to learn it. You helped me thanks
ive been programming for 6 months now just doing hobbies at home with arduino, ive only just reached a point where i realise the concept is that thing that you should remember above all, and now i actually use the //notes
This is something that only comes with experience, I also learned what you mentioned working 10 years as a software engineer
That's so true I'm actually in this stage
How should I keep concepts in mind ?
@@dji-7138 how should I keep concepts in mind?
please ignore my english ....would you like to share anything like what to keep in mind while learning coding languages .My question is what would you advise young you 10 years back to learn coding faster more & accurately
Don't you lose motivation from time to time?? 10ys is very long
Great advice brotha!. I been learning js for months now and I recently found that same approach...When I was learning js in the beginning I would stress myself out thinking js was sooo big and impossible to learn but now I'm working on whiteboard questions which is tremendously helping me breakdown the concept and the approach of why I'm using this for loop or these methods on a variable or wrapping all this data inside a function to get this result!. So basically what Im saying is thank you for putting this video out every new js developer needs to see things from this perspective because if not your going to be in the youtube tutorial cycle questioning and doubting yourself as a developer. 😏
Awesome bro good luck in your career. You will go far I am sure
Can i ask you what sources you are using ? and if it is possible what kind of suggestion can you give me to become better at Js ? step by step everything gets harder and more complicated for me , trying to put everything together but becoming more slower in learning and understanding of Js , can you help give me some advise ?
Thats right. Being a programmer is all about curious. And you cannot say that I know everything about this language. Learning process is always continuing and never ends. Its basically all about curious, researching and finding the solution for your problem. Its all up to you.
Totally agree with you Nelson, understanding the 'why' will always trump learning the 'how'. I'm glad I've watched this video while at the beginning of my programming journey.
Awesome 👏
Just pick a few complex projects and build them from scratch. I bet you will learn data structures and algorithms while on the way. For example, I am a Medical Doctor and i decided to build my own EMR (i.e. a Hospital Management Software) using Python-Django. I didn't know anything about programming back then but my journey led me to learn about databases, data structures, algorithms plus I learnt other things like vanilla JavaScript and React. AND GUESS WHAT? It took me 2 years to complete the EMR Project. The Secret is that you learn more when you face and solve complex problems. Don't just build a Todo app and think you are okay.
Projects that will teach you good concepts:
1. Create a Dating App, (once you start you will realize that it is more complex than you think)
2. Create a StackOverFlow Clone
3. Create a Retail Shop Software
or Create any side project that you really love but it must be a complex project.
Build Something you love, because if you don't love it you will quit along the way.
Oh nice well done Dr Hamza
this way of learning can be applied to many domains, thank you!
Yup totally agree
Just want to say a big thank you I have took your git/git hub course and now doing your JS course after doing computer science in uni for 2 years and dropping out as it wasn't for me, I then went to cyber security and now using your JS course I can say it's clicking now . I have yet to do my own JS project but hope when I do come to it I'll be able to do it. Thanks again and I look forwards to doing more.of your courses!
Good point! One suggestion though. In a lot of videos people explain programmer should learn to think instead of just code, but most of them are lacking concrete examples with explanation. Examples with explanations are the perfect way to understand the topic.
Good job! Cheers!
Thanks bro. Much needed advice right now. "Solve one piece at a time"
Yep never forget that
Theory should never be learned first. Always start programming first and learn theory along the way. The majority of expert coders learn this way. BUILD things first and learn theory along the way.
Thanks for this talk,am one of the guy who worries about coding now I get it and to make things easy...big ups🙌
bro i just found ur channel a couple days ago and i love the content
At the moment one of my Univerisity modules explains the use of different algorithms such as:
Quicksort
Insertion sort
Bubble sort
Selection sort
Binary Search
Dijkstra's algorithm, etc.
It also covers different collections structures, how they work and everything is presented in structured English so that should be implementable in most programming languages, although the Uni delivers it in Python. I must admit it can feel very overwhelming, and even once you learn about them, it's retaining all of that knowledge and knowing when the best case to use each specific algorithm is.
I haven't been applying for jobs yet, because I worry that I have not got my own projects (not sure where to start), and Haven't spent long enough with one particular language.
100% agree, focusing on the why instead on what is the real solving problem solution
Exactly, this is the foundation of understanding. I have a friend, who barely knows how to code, and thinks he can teach coding to me and others. Its a dumpster fire, but i try to be positive. But its very inefficient what he does and refuses to change. Hes delusional and stubborn to his own detriment.
Thanks a lot! I watched this video many days ago. Now I change my job, my current position is higher than previous. I should work on all process of the app: talking with customers, creating architecture of the app, fronted, backend and database. But I still worry about amount of coding time. Now I know, that I should spend more time for business problem and whole picture of the project, and after all of that - coding.
Thanks man.
As a beginner in Ruby on Rails I have found it helpful in understanding MVC- Model-Views-Controllers,
SPA- Single Page Applications,
How networking works has been very helpful for me.
Very good advices, problem solving skills are much more than just code :)
Yup agree
Agreed.
This video was really helpful, especially where you talked about not focusing on the syntaxes of the programming language but instead understanding its concepts.
I have had issues with that while learning and practicing because I’ve always been concerned about where to use the syntaxes, like private, constants, static and dynamic cast etc, even though I don’t fully understand their concepts.
If you have any advice for me please share. Thank you.
Dont worry man as junior developer you will learn from your mistakes. I am planning a course on these topics
@@amigoscode could you please attach the link for this course here.
thanks for redirecting my thought process as I code. I just started therefore I was focused on coding.
Nice one nelson, thanks for this apt advise. I've been struggling to focus on the code rather than the concept and then I get lost and never understand or achieve anything... I'll keep up with this. JazaakaLLahu Khayr ya akhi
Thanks Nelson for putting this video together. I'm learning Python and never understood concepts but I'm trying. Do you have a video where you use an example of a concept and how you would break it down so as to understand how to move ahead with coding each piece. Thanks in advance, I just subscribed to your RUclips channel and your Amigoscode website. Look forward to more of your videos.
This is so helpful to me as someone who is new to the world. I would watch tutorials but get overwhelmed because no one approached things with the same syntax. The shift from code to concepts is a clarifying paradigm shift.
If you haven't made them already, I would love to learn more about the conceptual paradigms that you work through for problem solving.
Also, what are some good sources that you would recommend for thinking in this way.
Great video dude 👍 I have to say as a young programmer I understood everything you've said , learning how to code is much easier if you know which concepts to apply in each application
what you are pointing is the right way , tools are important, but to grasp concepts and getting a hold in the problems to solve is much better than just knowing the technicalities of the language
Finally, my prayer has been answered. I just realized I have been learning the wrong way all this while. Gracias amigo🙏
Husk Cafe! Love this place. Can't agree with this video more. Once I realized this idea, I instantly became a better programmer.
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I haven't watched the video yet, but the title touches on how I've had success with things I've done. To understand concepts makes the details so much simpler, and you can manipulat modify. Also once you understand the concepts, it's not always necessary to memorize things.
Yup you are right my friend
I am so glad that you are saying that. Because for the last few months are realise that this is what we need to do in order to build anything we want. If you understand how things work then you can implement anything. :)
Thanks for the tips, great tip btw. Maybe I suggest just like you are stating in this video, it would be better if you made a few videos of some of the most important concepts that any developer should know, that way we as your viewers have an idea of what the tip you have shared in this video entails, A beginner developer, for example, might not know what are these concepts and looking at youtube tutorials much focus is on the coding aspect more than on concepts. Just my two sense.
thanks bro I ll take it onboard
Very reasonable.
I failed in an interview because of this, I knew the lenguage and the frame work, but I got stuck in a problem.
Wow man I just was going to comment exactly what you said, I recently loss an opportunity to get an amazing job because I just got stuck on coding problem.
And now I am reading more about data structures, algorithms and those kind of things that gets you a better understanding of software engineering but for me is very hard, especially for me that didn't never go to a college. How are you tackling this situation?
@@leonelvega7239 start with java or c++ or python then learn basic data structures and algorithms
@@leonelvega7239 then, how are you preparing yourself for tech job??
@@leonelvega7239 I'd suggest learning and understanding as much as you can from www.freecodecamp.org/learn/
@@leonelvega7239 I'm trying to understand algorithms and working on my mathematical approach to problems. I'm also solving 2 to 3 coding problems per day.
excelent said. When i was younger i realized this, but later on i forgot. Thanks for the reminder.
cheers
I think his video is particularly for me, all this while i have been focused on coding instead of learning the concepts, thanks so much
I truly feel this now. I want to solve a particular problem, I know the syntax, just don't know how to do it. I should have learned the concepts before.
Makes me frustrated not being able to find a simple gcd.
Tell me about it! That is exactly how I feel!
Thanks for focusing such a core issue.
We need to know the basics and concepts and not mug those up like kids. 👍🏻
haahhaha lol
@@amigoscode is there a link or video where one can learn the basics? I'm just learning java and I see how I need to understand the big picture in order to get through it better
I totally agree, I bite the same awkward manner or style, u nailed it man, more power! love all your videos
Totally agree. Like You, I always say the some thing to every one that is trying to learn programming!
nice 👍
It was my first frustration when I started programming. I spent a lot of time for learning Java features, spring under the hood, concurrency, etc... but it didn't give me boost in my job. Guys who spent a lot of time for understanding business process was much more productively, despite they didn't know so much Java features as I know. Later I can't normally understood what I should to code, and it was very demotivated. I even thought that programming is not for me.
Learn both, the concepts and do a lot of coding, looking at other people's code as well. It's not an either-or.
spot on
Omg this is such good advice! This is basically the point of my struggles! The logic and concepts is what matters. Thank you for this video.
You are welcome 😊
this is very true. I have always seen that most people who make videos they don't focus on making listeners understand
know the core language first, Learn it frameworks, build some projects then you will understand what you have been lacking for even the most experience programmers still keep learning the core language it self. #C-sharp
yup agree
Love the video man. I'm just starting to learn python and courses feel like it's more about syntax memorization then understanding how to use them as a foundation for problem solving. So a common thing I ask myself is "Well ok I know how to make a list but how is this practical?"
yup we all been there buddy
This is what I really need, Thank you Nelson
my problem is that I can understand any code, but I don't know how to start a project.
I clicked the Like button just by looking at this video's heading. Thanks for being insightful, brother.
Back in the days when I just started out back in high school, I had a class called pseudo codes and algorithms which basically taught us how to break down and analyze problems. I didn’t realize it then, but because of this , by the time I went to college, I could code in any language easily. This is what coding tutorials on RUclips fail to get. Teach the principles and paradigms of programming and you need not stick slavishly to a language
Yup totally agree
Just discovered you bro! Much Respect all the way from San Diego, CA! I'm currently learning how to code front-end & back-end at a local bootcamp w/ no prior experience and syntactically it's definitely a bit challenging.. but I a firm believer in what you're saying about focusing on the concepts rather than just the syntax now.. It's something I realized the same thing I need to sharpen on in order to effectively tackle problems. Would love to connect with you some day!
Sure Sean one day if you come to London let me know.
Syntax will become natural with time don’t worry to much about it
Learning the fundamental concepts of anything is the starting point of mastering it... great video Nelson
thanks LeBaron
Thank you. I haven’t written any code yet. I’m just considering coding and this “First Principles” approach is making sense to me going in. Thanks much!!
Code at the same time to get practice
Amigoscode
Thanks man. I appreciate it. I just got the latest version of Python on my Mac and I’m following a course on Lynda (LinkedIn learning). Thanks my brother!! 🙏🏿
Exactly that's one of the key difference when it comes to average & excellent software engineers...
so what about the interviews that ask to write code on whiteboards? aren’t they giving an impression that we should memorise codes or syntax?
I’m so happy to know your channel. Thank you so much!!
Thanks and I like your channel name 😉
Hey there,
I am a software engineer student all the way from Kenya and I just started learning Java.
I learnt a lot from this video and I hope to see more of your videos.
Thanks Antonio
Please upload more tips on software engineering and more courses. Your student from india❤️❤️❤️
sure I will
Bhai kaha se ho?
@@shikharkapoor8165 hyderabad bhai
@@amigoscode thanks so indeed you're an inspiration for me
Iv'e been telling this to all I know. All the time.
Yup keep on telling them
So true; over time the technologies will change but building those transferable concepts always keeps you current. Also, learn how to learn quickly.
Yup totally agree
Yup totally agree, learn the concepts first and then translate the needs to code.
Yup
Try to focus on camera don't let yourself be distracted by your environment it makes us that watch you to loose interest too... Nice content keep it up bro, I face the same challenge when I was learning programming as self taught
thanks
Yes i get what you're saying, being new to this however the first thing I was worried about was just how illiterate I am, i assumed that the conceptual aspect of coding is just the theory on whatever problem you are solving be it mathematical or otherwise.
Thank you so much your inputs and suggestions. I am also trying to learning code and it helps us to understand.
Thankyou, you`re saying what ive know all along, but didnt grasp. I feel like i can actually start to learn now.
What advise can be given to someone who just started showing interest in coding but with zero ideas ?
Joel Brown try cloning simple projects that have already been built.
couldnt agree more. of course having some sort of basic foundation in a language is important. but you nailed it bro. currently taking this online class at coursera: Stanford algorithm specialization. widely praised as arguably the single best algorithm class on the web, and easily my favorite course so far, NOTHING is taught in code. its 100% concepts with mathematical proofs thrown in. but the professor intentionally doesn't teach you how to code up these algorithms in any specific language. rather, he may provide some pseudocode, but more important really hammer the points home, and very clearly explain the concepts. that's ultimately the shit that makes somebody a good programmer. the syntax and how to actaully write it- that will come...with practice. but understanding concepts is def FAR more imp. great vid
thanks bro yup thats the way to learn anything. Language is just a tool
Have to drop a blessings to the General for this. Stumbled on this video and the Most High said to give it a listen and instantly it made sense to me in a REAL WAY. I hear get off the surface and go beyond the mundane. (In my case Its not enough to read the Metu Neter you must live it while always challenging and changing your MIND). Once you start seeing and changing the picture from the inside out, coding and life flows smoother. Just wanted to let you know that what you spoke on resonated deeper than just coding, people on the journey will understand. Bless up King. Give thanks for the words of Wisdom aka Tehuti which states "man is only as powerful as he or she serves as a vessel for Jah" Bless
Appreciate your comment. Stay safe
That's correct. It is not about syntax or coding and it is more about understanding the requirements and concepts.
Pretty good suggestion, I have also wasted my time on to get hands on the whole API of the JAVA.
Yup I have done that before too
Thanks for sharing your experience Amigo! I have enrolled for some of your courses in Udemy and I agree that coding is just a tool. Programming is just a tool.
But to be honest, I like Java and I am comfortable with it.
I have worked as a hobby in Python and currently learning Javascript.
Which language would you recommend for a web dev career for long term?
I have total 10+ years of experience. Almost all on Java.
Thanks in advance amigo!
Appreciate the advice ! Cheers from Los Angeles 🦾
Nuff respect Nelson. Hope to meet you someday, mentor.
Currently following your lesson on postgresql.
1:15 is when it starts
Thanks
They never understand that we just want to get the information instead of wasting time watching intro
Yes you are right! But at the start of programming it is good to fully focus the code but after spending time you realize i should know the process.
For coding Amigoscode is the best real world expectations channel I can find. Alot of youtube code is just different ways to say helloworld and building things without business use. But Amigos I gain so much perspective as I journey toward being a professional programmer in the enterprise space.
These tips are gold, these are real deal. Thank you so much
On point! Superb! I tell lots of 'coders' that they should aim to become solution providers and not mere programmers. The former focuses on solution creation, while the latter is bothered about how to write a program to implement a design. Focus on concepts and solution design; implementation can be achieved in many lamguages.
You said it all 👏
thank , useful tips , i have the same problem when i tried to learn javascript but now i focus to understand the concepts and it a game changer for me..
You're the best programming teacher on earth!
Solid advice my guy, thank you.
You welcome
Thanks dude, you changed my understanding of programming concepts. Great !!!
He's 100% right, In a nutshell he means that if you know the core of things, then all other things like coding, logic etc will automatically come to you with less effort.
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Im barely starting, thanks for giving me the concept of Understandment over Usage
I had the problems you talked about, thank you so much for your advice
the best advice they gave me in my career, Thanks
This was really great tip; this is my dilemma. I worry about how much Python i need to know despite building fairly decent apps with SQL etc using Flask. I still feel I am not great at it; however understanding the whole picture and where all the individual parts fit is a real underrated skill. Thanks amigo!
This is something that I have felt when trying to learn OpenGL and graphics. Most tutorials just say type this then this then this, while there obviously is a reason for it all they don't explain.
Hello from Belarus. Thank you Amigo for your advices!
Thanks for the advise, really gave me good clarity. Solve each problem smaller at a time and learn to solve the problem.
yup always
Hello bro i remember the first time that i saw your videos beacouse i was searching for postgre course and i saw your video in first position, and when i opened that i saw a guy saying "What´s guys my name is Nelson ..." and i saw the course of postgre and i have liked so much, but i did not subscribe, but today i was online on facebook and i saw a friend posting a video with your face and i say i know this guy and his name is Nelson and i saw this video it is so cool and i have subscribed beacuse you did not only speak about techincal things at general you speak but real world thing like a warning for my self and i like channel that give me things like that bro! Peace and Love a new subscriber!
Thanks bro for the nice comment really appreciate your support
@@amigoscode You welcome Nelson, and continue doing your very good work!
Thanks So much Man, i really needed that advice i was going to be overwhelmed
really appreciate it
I love your channel and your videos. I hope RUclips makes this one of the best channels :)