What makes Unc & Ocho furious about Russell Wilson being benched by Sean Payton & Broncos | Nightcap
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
- Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the news that Denver Broncos head coach Sean Payton is benching Russell Wilson for the rest of his second season with the team and likely parting ways with him not long after. Unc and Ocho think it's time for NFL players to stand up to the owners and GMs who are willing to make cutthroat business decisions at the drop of a dime.
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We can all learn from Russell dude got cussed out on TV by his coach, gets bashed by the media and his own teammates constantly but dude never complains and he just goes out and play. The calmness and maturity of this guy is something I wish I had. That's not being a punk, that's being a mature man.
Say dat 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
Russ created the animosity from his teammates by asking for 4 parking spots and an office.
@@agentcarmichaelis it Russ’ fault the front office gave it to him?
@agentcarmichael he earned all that, he never separated himself. They have no line, no RB, and barely a defense and he still showed up and produced. The ones that were mad just jealous that they didn't put themselves in the position to be able to have ask in there contract
@@agentcarmichaelthts just called hating. Who cares if he asked for an office🤷🏽♀️
“NFL has ppl believing that the millionaires are more selfish than the billionaires”
Some of em is 🤣💯
THIS.
Thanks for breaking this down Shannon, folks really need to understand if a player has a large contract, how much does the team have in order to pay that player?🤔🤔🤔
I'm so glad Shannon got his own podcast. Now we can see him spit the truth!
Facts why have Shannon on Undisputed or First Take when he has his own platform and can be himself? Club Shay fire too 🔥 🔥
Me too ❤
why ocho always got glasses on
I love Shannon, but he's full of it on this one.
First of all, teams are bound by salary cap. If you want to field a more competitive team, top earners need to take a pay-cut. It's a sad reality, but it is a reality. If you don't take a pay-cut, then it's fine, but don't come around complaining that you don't have a great squad. Look at LeBron, he's bitching about being top-heavy at every opportunity. Dude, you're taking a freaking 50m out of 136m salary cap. Add Anthony Davis on top of that, you two are taking 90m out of 136m. No fucking shit that the team can't build a good squad around your ass with the remaining 46m dollars, when a decent role player costs 15~20m in the market.
Second, the relative scale he's using is bogus. No one is asking the players to take 50~60% pay-cut. They're asking a pay-cut of a million here, or a million there, which is equivalent to 1~5% of the top earner's salaries. Also, a scale such as 10k to a person who's making 20k a year, and a scale of 10m to a person making 20m is completely different. One is unsustainable to live a healthy life, whereas the latter is perfectly capable. So Shannon trying to lecture the fans about the "relative scale" is flawed on its very premise.
Third, he needs to drop that bulljive at taking shots at team's owners. There are obviously shitty ones that just wants to make money, but there are great owners who take money out of their own pocket to field a great team, but are bound by salary cap. The Golden State Warriors, in the previous season, had an operating income of 79 million dollars. The owner placed 700 million dollars to field and run that team. The owner made fewer dollars than Steph Curry and Klay Thompson's salaries combined. Most team owners actually LOSE money running a franchise. They only turn a profit for owning it for a very long time, which is a great risk. Every law firms that had association with sales and purchases of a sports team came out and said this.
I love watching this channel. Shannon is amazing. But he's often in his feelings, but he tries to disguise it as wisdom, and use examples and portray that in a logical way, but a lot of his arguments are actually based on his feelings and perceptions, not facts. He even admitted himself that he often gets in heated argument, and brushes people off who say that he's wrong, without doubting his knowledge, but then later come around and think that he might be wrong. It's certainly better than never admitting that you're wrong, but it sure does seem like he's always in his feelings when trying to make an argument.
I feel bad for Russell WIlson. He was holding back tears as he spoke. But this is the nature of the business in the NFL. This is why I fully support players getting as much as they can while they still can. NFL contracts mostly favored the owners.
Wilson is washed up.
Held back tears for what. The washed up never was better than mediocre at best is walking away with a truck load of money. He should send L.O.B a rollie
You feel bad for him? Look at all Denver gave up to get him. They thought Carroll was a dinosaur and that was why they ran that offense, but it was cause Wilson can't handle a more complicated offense.
@@smithyamiamithey said that about Flacco also
Russell Wilson fell off the cliff, he's washed up. End of story!
This coming from Shannon is huge. A Broncos legend calling out the hypocrisy of NFL owners.
Not really these aren’t the same owners from when he was there ….they didn’t draft him or pay him..he has no loyalty to them
@@bsp5689 True but from his emotion you could tell these were sentiments he had as a player. He also called out Elway his qb for doing the same thing.
I was thinking the same thing. Shannon isn't biting his tongue at all!
Tho it's funny how quick he changed if you remember when he was with Skip he DEMANDED at the beginning of the year if this season is a bust to cut russ and that he could care less
THANK YOU
It's simple, Sean Payton didn't like Russell Wilson, and he pushed him out. Sean Payton never cussed drew Brees out on the sidelines. You never see a headcoach do that to his starting quarterback.
He want him a white qb
Good, push him all the way out.
Yeah....But Drew Never Gave Payton A Reason To Hell At Him.... Apparently..,.Russ Questioned A Decision The Coach Made....Sean Got N Is Ass About It!!! Lol
Exactly. Russ had a really good year. If Sean Payton cuts him after that, he just never wanted him. I wouldn't be surprised if Sean lost to the Patriots on purpose to justify benching him.
It’s simple. You’re being paid to be great. He’s average. If he don’t want to reconstruct his contract to get other players then he should be benched
"The owners have convinced the average fan that thr millionaires are somehow more selfish than the billionaires" that quote hits hard. Plus, NFL players make millions (at least the superstars do) for 10+ years if youre LUCKY. Owners will continue making billions long after players are gone
It hurts me to see Russell Wilson get treated this way by Sean Payton. Russell Wilson, has been to two Superbowls. One won and lost one. This man has so many accolades to prove that he is a franchise QB and a HOF career. However, Sean Payton highly respected coach for his accomplishments. But he has never yelled at Drew Brees the way how I’ve seen him yell at Russell Wilson. Also him saying “I can get more out of Stidham than Russell Wilson.” Now that’s just some BS.
This post is exactly what's wrong with all the criticism of Sean Payton. Russell Wilson signed a contract that was Russel claiming that he was three times better than any other quarterback! Payton treated Russell like he was a billion dollar quarter and expected Russell to be a billion times better than Brees. And then Russell got found out. It is totally just for Payton to expect the HIGHTEST level of play since Russell claimed by taking the money that he was the best player in the world and that the team could be all about him. Russell took the money first in Seattle, handicapping the team, and proving he is all about money, not championships. So he whined and complained and took even more money for the Broncos...and proved to be slightly better than a division 2 college quarterback. Stop complaining about his treatment. Good grief.
Russ had one of the best defenses in NFL history in Seattle. A top running game too. They didn’t win because of Russ
U act like they ask Russ “ hey are u 3x better than Bree’s” an then signed him. They got the tape on Russ and this year he’s the 6th best QB. Broncos weren’t a QB away from the playoffs. They suck across the board. The line, the defense, the receivers.
@@marstonmaxersno your mindset is what's wrong Russ put up Good numbers this year top 10 numbers. Payton is a dirtball bigot, who criticizes Wilson for shit that he applauded brees for doing.
This speaks a lot of Sean Payton character. 🤬 that dude!
It’s weird how fans always fault the players for taking money when owners are the greediest. I’m glad unc explained it this way
Same thing with the government! The rich blame the middle class and the middle class blame the poor! Meanwhile, the government's laughing because all fingers are being pointed everywhere except for them
Russ is bad u overpaid hes bad bad
The only thing I wish people explain well is what should be done in a hard cap situation. It seems like people forget that the billionaires are not allowed to spend as much money as sometimes is needed to get the desired talent. Shannon talks about the 300 million the teams get for the tv deal. That's irrelevant if there is going to be a hard cap on spending
@@cmax8719who do you think wants the hard cap? 😏
@@abayomikelvin5153trust me bro that’s in everyone’s best interest. Broncos are owned by Walmart family who are worth 70+ billion. To put it into perspective the second richest owner is Jerry jones at 6 billion. You want the broncos to be able to buy every single superstar in the league while other teams can’t even come close?
This conversation, is not only for football, but life in general. Auto workers, Teachers, Police, Nurses, McDonald workers, etc.
And guess what, you make a deal to make x amount of money to perform x duties with a certain set of expected results that represents the company standards. If you don't execute your part of the bargain with the company....them bosses are going to let you go. Simple. It's Business
Merchant sailors
@@crownrolle139you’ve never heard of a union goofball? What Shannon is talking about isn’t some new idea or something unheard of. It’s what many many company and business employees have done to ensure they get paid what they deserve. Sorry not everyone has the small man mentality yoh do.
@@crownrolle139they just told you that Russell numbers are good. He's executing... The team/staff as a whole is inconsistent. With Russell, it's a money/scapegoat thing
Except we don’t get paid millions to play a game
Love who Russell Wilson is and his accomplishments - he got played dirty at Denver 😞
He's definitely holding his own. Him a smart one with an insanely beautiful wife... almost too much for massa... um I mean the manager
@@damita4336are you implying the guy with a 250M contract is a slave or that somehow Sean Payton is his slave master? 😂
Black fragility is too real bruh
Praying Russell Land on his feet to a team who really need him and respect him!🙏🙏🙏
Man Shannon got me dying. "What I made at my last job, they ain't got nothing to do with you"!🤣🤣🤣
I used to think Shannon was scripted, but with this podcast, you can see that the witty viewpoints come out spontaneously. Dude is sharp, cuts through the b.s., and gets it
Wth made you think that 😂😂😂
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That’s why his nickname is Unc. Because he tells it like it is and has all those witty sayings just like your uncle. And all those little sayings he has are just things people from the south say. And Shannon is from Georgia. He’s a genuine dude.
@@BA22378 when he said, “if I told you grass would turn to cheese tommorow quit your job and start hustling crackers” Lmaooo
His show was live tf you talking about bum
I'm glad these types of podcasts and media platforms are open and available to the average person to be educated on things they don't necessarily see. This was a shrewd business move to void Russ contract but the idea to publicly embarrass and challenge a man's character in the process was disgusting. That said, us fans, as Shannon was pointing out, only care about our team and subconsciously protecting the owners, which is more disturbing than anything else.
The masses don't read and understand the real game behind football is racism
Shannon is blessed with a way of explaining things where anyone could understand and hes 💯 percent right 👍
Shannon is barely literate.
Are any football players showing up to help the common folks on their jobs? No. They need to get united and then talk to us.
@@RegisWilkinsand more successful than you 😂
@@RegisWilkinsbut you’re here. Commenting and giving him views. Call him what you want, but he ain’t broke! 😂
What we're learning with Brees and Brady's retirements, are that these QBs really make average coaches look like HOF.
Brees was average in San Diego.....
Hitting the nail dead center!
Brees wasn't amazing till got to New Orleans. Payton also made Teddy Bridgewater (5-0), Jaemis Winston (5-2) and Taysom Hill (7-2) look like All Pros. 😀
And it works both ways: It exposes average QBs when they don't have the Legion of Boom, Marshawn Lynch and Pete Caroll to cover for their short comings.
What HOF coach didn't have a HOF QB????
“Your boss needs you to take a $50K pay cut to hire Karen in HR. You good with that?” 😂
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What's the big deal? I'd say, "How about you pay my money, and I will keep the bench warm for you". Again, Shay is making a big deal out of nothing. The Broncos owe Wilson his money regardless if he sits. If my job wants take my off my job and pay me full salary to sit and do nothing, I'm totally game.
@@cdsersd2d yea I doubt any player at a high level rests on that, but of course do you.
Can’t imagine SB champs being fine with not competing, money or not.
And it is a big deal with how the atmosphere around it has become. Regardless, Russ still being a pro and he’ll move forward to a contending team 2024.
May it work out for all parties involved really.
@@imAgentR - Well Russ has a lot of blame. The dude was 4-11 last season and is 7-8 this season. Say what you want, but if Russ was 10-5 this season, none of this would be happening. Fact. I'm sure if you were a team owner, 7-8 is fine, but not everyone wants to own a losing team. Russ is still decent and if he lands with the right coach, good things can happen.
@@cdsersd2d Did I give off the impression that they couldn’t/shouldn’t move on?
I’m just saying the handling of it doesn’t leave the respect to the athlete currently there who you still then rode to go win games.
Move on, but stay classy.
Unc you gonna go down to be the realist sports spokesperson to ever live. Keep the raw, humble , realness you have. Thank you for simplifying this for just regular fans
Unc is silly, “I’m working at a new job, I want new money.” 😂😂😂😂😂
Shannon gave a great lesson on financial literacy. Comparing the fans' jobs to NFL players' jobs, nailed it home.
I do think there can be instances where say a QB takes less money to improve his surrounding teammates and it results in a more successful career and indirectly leads to making more money overall, or even improves his long term health after football (ie taking less hits with a better o-line).
There aren't parallels like that in my job or most people's jobs.
There's a huge difference between going from making 100k to 75k but going from $30 million to $22 million is no where near as impactful. It's disingenuous to compare normal people numbers when they're talking about millions.
@rayj.9568 That comparison is not accurate. It does not take into account that the fans typically do not have jobs with a hard salary cap. Nor is their jobs so tightly linked to the company competing against someone else. In a normal person's job, typically individual performance is weighted higher. The employees typically is not caring as much as an NFL player how its business is performing against another, and employees normally are not worried about championships and how it affects their legacy. There are so many differences between the two situations, but people often resort to the lazy comparison
it is harder to live on 150k versus 30million, the latter got room ro wiggle while the former ia tight, so not a good comparison at all
Not many people make 100k. Shannon is still out of touch. Had he said 45,000 and said would you take a 10% cut? Then the average fan would get it.
Russ caught a raw deal…Sean Peyton using this man as an excuse…when in reality Sean Peyton is overrated coach…he ain’t win nothing with out drew Bree’s and underachieved for years now…ima laugh when the broncos still stink…
And because he was getting exposed, he quit retired on NO... I always thought he was overrated af...
Russ got a good deal because of that contract. You can’t be getting top dollar and playing average
Sean Payton built us something we haven’t had in over 5 years. AN OFFENSIVE LINE THAT RUSS COULDNT SEE OVER! Lmao🤣
Yall can call him over rated all you want. After watching theses games every fucking year there’s obviously been improvement. I feel for Russ. But he made his bed last year when he was actin like a damn cheese ball. He starts to play DECENTLY and now everyone thinks he wasn’t part of the problem? Come tf on now let’s be logical
And yeah Broncos do fuckin stink !!!
I love that I've gotten to know Ocho through this show. He's a real one. So is Shannon
Shannon tells it straight. I love the podcast
To go through THAT BS and STILL go out and play?? Russ is a solid, stand-up dude!!
He did that when he was in Seattle too. The coach only started him because he was too damn good because he had athleticism. But he never was taught the things that the Brady's kno or Peyton Manning know. So that's why he's always played backyard football. But I thought Sean Payton was going to take time with him and teach him. When he was in Seattle the legion of boom used to call him all kind of curse words in practice say he wasn't black enough. Not things that you should have to deal with in a work environment. And he still gave them two Super bowl appearances he's the consummate pro
@@ljj734idk they talked to him like that in Seattle
@@jacktrippa5563 the lob absolutely they did n Pete did whenever contract negotiations went on. But in Seattle they never got him top 15 o line he did have receivers. But a lot of the things that Sean Payton expected him to know he never learned in Seattle because he had a defensive coach with a vanilla scheme. He didn't tell him how to learn to quick game they just ran the ball in Seattle. And Sean Payton saw those highlights and try to make him do the same thing here. You can't bring a tight end like Adam Troutman over here who is supposed to help the run as a bk up and expect Russell to have a great quick game. Russell definitely came to sean trying to learn everything he could. Its documented from jump Sean told Mark scherlith we know what he is and we know what he ain't and we're going to focus on what he did good in Seattle. Sean made sure that he worked on timing w the play clock n running the ball that's about it . There was not a concerted effort to hit the middle of the field or to work on that stuff most likely Sean Payton treated it like a waste of time. And you see that in the play calling which they had to practice
Well that's what you do when you make 40 mill a year to be a QB lol. It's called being a professional.
@@brotherLee340 so the man didn't earn his money because of what? He got the contract before Sean got there. Most of his career he was the top 10 QB. He played decent this year top 10 most of the year. Obviously Sean Payton didn't like him so he didn't set up anything for him to play like that he just played like that. Sean just tried to reinvent what he did in Seattle. But he didn't teach him anything. And if Sean came to him halfway in the season and said hey I don't believe in u. How did you expect great numbers. If your employer goes to you and say hey I don't think you're that good of a employee and you're on your way out are you going to be doing your best work? Now go ahead n lie . And how dare you try to say Russell was not professional and Sean Payton was professional you're the only person on earth that would even think that. Maybe if Russell was white you would see him diff
Shannon is not only a former player, HOFer, 3x Super Bowl champion. Denver Broncos are dear to his heart and to call them out is one of the reasons why we love to watch him. The man is sincere and an honest broker.
Most overrated player on the 97 and 98 Broncos team
That is TRUE Shannon Sharpe is Amazing!
Except that UNC missed a small fine print: They cut Manning’s base from 19m to 15m then added a clause that if he meet them it would go back up to 19 and also included 2m bonus for super bowl appearance and another 2m to win the super bowl. In total, just winning the super bowl and he was on the team, he was back at 19m. Exactly what he would have been paid at the start of year which Manning wanted another super bowl.
I am glad I found this podcast because Unc and Ocho are on point here. It's the issue that no one really talks about because they are shamed into silence. It's such a grimy look for owners. Greed is a terrible thing all around.
Said it once, I’ll say it again: They gave Russell the mayo bag, then they realized and were like, oh snap, he should have gotten the choco bag. This some bs, he needs to lawyer up.
I wasn't a huge Russel Wilson fan. But, after this, it's hard not to cheer against the Broncos and for the man and his next opportunity.
I'm a Broncos fan and I'm rooting against them after this lol.
I respect your opinions about this but let me say as a Saints fan...I understand now why the Raiders did this to Derek Carr last season...dude is trash and the team knows their players better than the next team. There's a reason more than money why this is happening...trust Coach Payton and his process. I would love to have him back with the Saints
I am a seahawks fan and the last of a dying breed. All my friends and family have turned on him. Listen he is the best instictive qb i have ever seen. Now he deserves some of the criticism. But the media made him the most beloved or respected qb to the nost hated in 3 years. I am not buy-in it. My team ddnt give him an O line for yearrrrssss. Carroll was not always perfect. But russ loved him even talkee like him. I love LOB but sherman was salty when he left. Thomas wanted to leave ans had no lyalty remmeber him running to Jason Garrett like a cowboy groupie? Russ is a leader. Last year he was injured. The year prior was a new year. There was alot of jealousy. Dnt sleep if seattle was smart they would bring him back I like geno but i dnt think ita long term.
@@jharne1nope nope nope like the Shannon meme. SEAN SABOTAGED THE TEAM AND RUSS.
This is not our Pat Bowlen Broncos with honesty and integrity.
“So we can hire Karen at HR?””
Bro Shannon is to funny
Shannon is on point when he talks football and I love it
I simply LOVE this show - these guys keep it REAL!
As a Broncos fan disappointed with this decision…the issues with the Broncos is bigger than the quarterback. I wish Russ the best of luck with his new team.
we've been through 13 qbs and they still haven't noticed it. we have no tight end no run game terrible wr core excluding courtland.... and still one of the worst offensive lines in the league. not sure what hes expected to do pitty the next qb to land with us.
The Broncos are about to become irrelevant.
@@lighttbearerbeen irrelevant after Russell Seahawks & LOB smoked em 43-8 in their best offensive season lol
As long as denver's o-line sucks the QB position will always be a problem
@@kbskbreezyTop 10 O line bud
Benching Wilson with the last two games of the regular season is a slap in the face and the Ultimate disrespect.
He's 7-8 for the season. If he was 10-5 for the season, this wouldn't be happening.
I like these two guys. Watched them play. Great show they don’t hold back. It’s so organic, this is better than ESPN.
ESPN owned by Disney so they stick to the script. At least on here they can be real.
These guys are great together. They need a live TV 📺 Show asap 💰 pay them
In MY opinion It’s better here because THEY control the content. If TV pays them they will have to do what the network says.
I love it here☺️☺️☺️☺️
@@ociejohnson72 that’s 💯 percent true your right about that
Russell has worked both these years with big changes in coaching staff, schemes, and roster. Despite that, he has had a productive year.
But Payton needs a scapegoat for his losses and the team is willing to use it to squeeze the money.
True
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These dudes are changing the game for sports talk... love it!!!
I’m not even going to lie, Shannon made some really good points. His analogies are dead on. I wish all football and basketball fans could see this.
Great take, guys! I would love to see Wilson in Pittsburgh.
“I’m working in the new job, I want that new money!” 😂😂 yo Unk you a trip
It wasnt hard to figure out once they hired Payton. The goal was to push Russell out and make him a scapegoat if they didnt win.
If everyone knew the cost of umbrella insurance for football players and athletes overall, you'd all freak. It's millions not $470 a month like the rest of us regular job people pay. The pay of an athlete cannot be judged when we never know what's going on behind the scenes. They are injured at an early age, have costly surgeries, and have to support their families for decades. Shannon is saying what needs to be said here. It's about time that some truth is being exposed. Russell Wilson deserves more respect. I'm happy that he is talking too! Go Russ!!
Wilson will land elsewhere, no doubt about it. Still a great quarterback.
The problem is this Sean Payton can’t think outside the box. He doesn’t want to think out the box because he doesn’t like Russell Wilson, and he refused to build a scheme and call a game that we played a Russell Wilson strengths.
Thank you a lot of people have not said that but that is 100% accurate from my pov. I'm surprised the Broncos owners have not noticed that. When you look at the Patriots game and you look at the Texans game they were focused on the running game and the running backs did not get the ball in the end zone and you see Russell being yelled at
Lol I mean he made Tayson Hill useful. I don't think Sean Payton's ability to think outside the box is diminished.
Couldn't of said it better. Sean Payton used Russell Wilson as the scapegoat. Granted the previous year wasn't great but this year wasn't his complete fault. He always wanted Russell out in my opinion from the start. But Russell has to perform way better considering how much he is getting paid. Sean Payton & staff did Russ dirty. Russell has been a stand up guy during all this.
@@brucehicks5817 Tayson Hill never amounted to anything! Tayson was a special teams gadget guy! The OP is right, Sean Payton is a one trick pony coach! Payton does not know how to use the talent that he has; rather, he only has one system that he knows how to use. Russ improvises and Drew Breeze is timing, which is what Payton wants.
What was Jameis Winston record with Sean Payton? The data doesn't suggest he can't adjust. You can't build a game plan around improvise.
I love this crazy connection between you two. Don’t know who put this together but they need a big bonus!
You’re watching who put it together
This could actually be what Wilson needs!!!!!!!! He goes to the Redskins and has a legit resurgence while Peyton struggles.
@@LJSJIUJITSUwhere? Don’t know that team?
Washington...Oh shoot okay the Commanders...@@Mr.Pip_
I respect Shannon and Chad. Both NFL legends
Thank you for letting us know what’s really going on. I’m a fan and I agree
Players need to remember what the Broncos just did. Ain’t no way I’m signing a big contract with them.
Exactly. If they do Russ like that, Joe Schmoe ain't got a chance
Every team in the league either has done or would do the same thing.
@@shedflips I can’t recall a team letting a QB with 22 tds and 6 int go.
Unc speaking Big Facts!!!!💯💯💯
How you know ?
Thank you Thank you Shannon Sharp I could not agree with you more you broke it down very very good
Not even a second in and Ocho already coming out saying "thats Bulls- 🤬"
I have learned so much listening to Unc and Ocho. That 87 strike was a turning point. And Ocho makes a great point. Those owners play favorites. Don't tell me they don't. $300 million per team!!! WOW!
Now this only Makes Arizona Cardinals Bidwell ownership more offensive never ever sniffing of championship ridiculous contract absurd freeagency and drafting GM Coaches always more of same how many ruined carriers .
Shannon really tells it like it should be told, just in the way he wants to tell it. He speaks the truth 💯
This was good, thanks for breaking it down for the Fans Unc!!!!!
Can you guys do a brake down on player expense? Like personal trainer, nutritionist, agent, ECT.
And taxes they pay in every state where they play!!!!
Shannon is 100% right. The Owners did a good job marketing the Millionaires as greedy instead of it being the other way. But I also feel like that happens because It's a salary cap sport
Thats not really the issue. Fans understand players should get paid. But most of us are fans of particular teams. Players come and go. And under a salary cap we realize the team can't pay everybody premium money. It's not that we route for the owners to make more, we just want our teams to win lol
You do realize that if this wasn’t a salary cap sport and they could pay the players whatever they wanted to then the ticket cost would soar sky high and be unaffordable for the common fan to go
@@JutoCrocell except that when they need to build a new stadium, they asked the public for funds. And then these billionaires can make their millions.
@@JutoCrocell That's a bold face lie because Baseball doesn't have a salary cap and tickets be cheap af to go to games. I seen tickets for the WS as low as $25. So what are we even saying
@@brotherLee340 That's why I literally said at the end "I also feel like that happens because it's a salary cap sport" 🤣🤣🤣
My 2 cents.. Denver knew they wanted to move on from him after last season but $85M dead cap in one year just absolutely guts your team so they had to wait until this upcoming offseason to cut him so they could split that $85M over two years. They handled it wrong, but I think this was known in the front office last season
Agreed and if they continue next year you're looking at that kinda money for a 36 year old qb on the decline. They shouldn't have paid that in the first place. The front office is a mess.
To add to your point ( I completely agree with). They hired Peyton this year to try and make Russ runaway looking like the bad guy but it backfired because Peytons verbal assault didn't work on Russ.
I feel bad for them Wilson suckered them good.😂😂 Can't play in a modern offense. Pete Carroll took all the blame for "his" old style offense and reaped the reward of that in the trade.
Ocho's face made my fu@kin' day... "They made Peyton Manning take a pay -cut??" Pure shock. Life-long Broncos fan here... Shannon, sincerely... you are my ABSOLUTE FAVORITE Bronco of all time. I argued with my coworkers that you are easily the greatest to ever play tight end. Others said Gonzalez or Gronk and I see their shortsightedness, but if championships matter... Shannon Sharpe was a key offensive peice for 3 consecutive superbowl wins. I know you get props like Macho Man Randy Savage, but I argue you are Hulk Hogan, the GOAT, at tight end that is. I loved the sideline phone call to the national guard... absolute shame if that wasn't caught on camera.
This is an excellent and enlightening conversation. It makes me think differently as a fan.
I didn't come anywhere close to being in the NFL, but I fully understand the sacrifice and dedication it requires to make it there. The players put their bodies and lives on the line every snap, they most certainly deserve the money they get and much more.
And the owners can absolutely afford it.
@@SE-gs6gd Blame the NFLPA, the terms they play under are collectively bargained.
@@TheMattTrakkerthe worst union in all of sports
Lol you think parents with 6 kids don’t work as hard as these players??? I know some peoole who got 3 jobs and their yearly salaries are not even player’s weekly check. Why people don’t care about your money?? Cause we all know ya ain’t making what you making in any other places. So just shut up and play or make your own league to play. At the end of the day football is just a child play with balls.
@@TheMattTrakker it's a loose "collective" like most unions
That $300 mill TV deal cheque was eye opening, considering the current salary cap is $224.8 mill that means NFL teams are most likely breaking even off that alone, if you factor in Coach, GM, Scouts, Trainers, Team Doctors, Culinary Staff, operating costs etc. That TV deal sets them up to absolutely rake in $$$ Profit $$$
Unc speaking real. I never thought about the Billionaire, Millionaire thing like that. Can only get this perspective from a pleyer. Thanks UNC!
14:47 Thank you Shannon..That's right..Always love to hear things from your perspective..Keep doing your thing bru
I am a Broncos Fan and I have been a fan for 55 years and I’m 62 years old so I was 7 years old watching my Broncos. I am so hurt by the way that they are treating Russell Wilson. I don’t know how the owners have let Sean Payton come in here and treat Russ this way. The way he disrespected him on the sideline was so disrespectful. He got the right one baby because it couldn’t been a Chad or Shannon. This coach has never liked Russell he is looking for his great white hope QB. He has never wanted to coach a black QB. I’m just keeping it real!
You inject that bullshit into everything huh?
Speaking straight facts! I have not liked how Russ has acted especially before Payton got there but what coach Payton has done has been disrespectful on many levels and he doesn’t deserve it.
I said the exact same words and I’m not a Broncos fan.
Let’s not pull the “black card” that dude is white washed and I’m not mad at him about it. He’s gonna walk away with 100 million… cry about it all the way to the bank! He’s a good dude off the field from what I know… he just wasn’t balling out to what he was getting paid…
How pathetic to pull the race card..
I love Ocho’s take about Russ going to Pittsburgh! He’s a Virginia dude and I believe Mike Tomlin is too! Those two guys would be a match made in heaven! Russ is a winner! Period!
Yes, Russ and Tomlin are my Virginia homies. Not a Steelers fan but I can see Wilson in Pittsburgh.
That ain't gonna happen 😂
@@reedykat30 I just hope Russ doesn’t go to Washington! It’s a possibility though 🙄
Pittsburgh would never pay that contract, plus they're invested in Kenny Pickett
“This is why I tell players why are y’all taking paycuts? Why are y’all giving team discounts? You see what they do to you?”
I think Ocho wanted to LOL when Shannon said Russ "tucked it" 😂😂😂
Unc with that Cheese and Crackers line was yet another banger! He has so many interesting sayings...
I have learned so much about the game, the system, the players and how this system works since Shannon and Ocho started NIGHTCAP...❤❤❤❤
I’m a first time subscriber great show 👍🏽
Never heard this perspective, Thanks 💯❤Eye opening
I’m happy to be able to live in era where people have a voice and there’s opposition to not only the norm but the majority of sports media. Thank you for leading the way UNC. You created a media platform.
I feel you but our voice don't mean anything if the nfl players aren't saying anything and still playing 4real 4real
Shannon was spot on with his assessment of the money situation. Unfortunately too many people have been brainwashed into thinking these billionaires are doing them good and thats why we are hard stuck on wages.
Yes he was but he's been rich for so long he believes 150k is a average salary 😂
@@fitnessman5542where he said 150k or 15k his point still stands. Owners makes billions upon billions yet fans get upset when players ask for what they are worth.
They should fight more collectively for larger salary caps. In a salary cap system, an individual player taking more than their fair share of the cap - harms the team and angers fans.
I completely understand where Shannon is coming from but when you compare the millionaires and billionaires, it’s still a bit unfair because we’re not asking you to take less from the billionaire each team has a salary cap and if my team desperately needs a defensive back and a safety that would put us over the edge and you are hogging up 35% of our salary cap as the quarterback The owners can’t say well I’m going to pay these guys anyway screw the salary cap at the same time. I understand exactly where the players come from not taking the pay cut, but as a fan of a team with a salary cap, would I have liked if Aaron Rodgers said hey I’m going to take 10 million less to give to another player not to give back to the owners, but to give to another player to make our situation better yes I would have loved it
@boricua9071 fans really don't get that mad. Most of us get it. But fans are selfish. We route for out teams first lol. Players come and go. So fans somewhat always ride with owners because that's who they are stuck with.
Random Fact: Ocho was the 5th member of Jodeci before he played in the NFL.
I love Uncle Shay! Ain’t No and that fanger pointin!!!😂😂😂
Great chemistry and flow of the show between Ocho and Unc
Russ wasn't the problem. A defense giving up 70 points is the problem.
You clearly didn’t watch the games. Wilson didn’t get the job done time after time after time. Turnovers, can’t compete the 3rd down pass, looks lost at times, holding the ball, taking sacks, can’t complete anything over 10 yards consistently.
But if it wasn't Russ it would be Vance Joseph. Think about it n do the black math!!
Y’all saying it’s the defense either A.doesn’t actually watch/understand football or B. Are just plain idiots. I don’t remember the defense giving up 70 every game? Was it the defense that refused to throw downfield and scrambled every time a defender blinked at him? Yeah definitely the defense 🤡🤡
@@michaelhooks8591clearly didn’t watch the games. Russell was not playing well
@@michaelhooks8591 wait: NO TEAM gives up 70 points every game.
ok fine. The defense gave up 70 points, but it's the QBs fault. Got it.
Great points by both of these all time greats! Fans are only loyal to logos and billionaires that wouldn’t piss on them if they were on fire but they criticize and berate players because they won’t take pay cuts. I’m not a Russ Wilson fan but I love what he did. That’s right screw the broncos they signed the deal make them live with it. They love calling players out that want to re-do their deal!
Love these two guys. I look forward to their podcast every day ❤❤😊
Unc consistently educate viewers. I so respect facts Unc speaks from his knowledge & research just as SAS, & Coach Prime.
Is this a joke?
I love how transparent Unc and Ocho about behind the scenes of football.
Very good podcast I enjoyed the commentary.💯
Thanks Shannon for sharing about the pay between the millionaires (players) and billionaires (owners). BTW, I think they did Russell dirty.
Shannon is so good at this. I could listen to him talk about anything.
I do really like Wilson going to the Steelers. His type of play would seem to fit what Tomlin would want to do.
“The Fans Jump On It With Both Feet”!!! 🔥🔥🔥
I love Shannon. He be speaking facts 💯
Love me some Shannon! He not only play the game, but he understands the intricacies of both the locka and the bizness! Shannon, you the man! Love ya dawg!
I totally agree and Ocho just sits there quiet...seems what Shannon says goes over his head...to intricate for him so he just agrees
If he wants to be on first take hebis goin to have to get on his game.
This conversation is so needed. As a Colts fan I argued with countless fans over Jonathon Taylor contract extension . Young talented guys deserve to be paid accordingly.
And Jonathan Taylor has been hurt half a year that's why Running backs don't get huge contracts anymore
@@koolkitties8552 he’s coming off an injury he’s 24 and your team best player. You pay the best player “always” when he’s young and top 5 at his respective position.
wilson isn't young and talented
@@pmpster5 I know my comment in reference to JT. The Broncos agreed to that contract & trade so they have nobody to blame but theirselves!
Yes STEELERS !!!!
That "If I tell you grass gon turn to cheese" tho😂😂😂
Talk about the preseason games and pay! Thank you Unc and Ocho for you platform.
In 2010 Drew Brees threw 22 interceptions but you can't pay me to believe Sean Payton talked to him the way he talked to Russell Wilson
Drew threw for 4,600 yards that year. The saints were a powerhouse and won the Superbowl that year with the return of the Superdome.
Well there ya go!
@@jaamall Drew Brees threw for 4300 yards in 2009 and yes the Saints won the Super Bowl in February 2010. I was talking about the following season
@@tomickam5979Yes. Drew Brees and the Saints won the Super Bowl in February 2010. I'm talking about the following season
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Man i swear these 2 beautiful souls have the best show on any format..Both have lived football their whole lives and so humble and real..Doesnt matter what they talk about its dead on the money sharp and just enough real comedy to drive the topic home ❤
They are on point 🎯💯
Hey guys I’m so happy that y’all are talking informing the people about y’all experience I played 11 years in the nfl from 1970/1980 I’m 76 years old I have a brother that played 15years and coach 15yer for the same team he played for yes he’s a HOF bless his heart Shannon my oldest daughter name was Shannon anyway I enjoy y’all conversations keep growing sharing y’all experiences God bless 😎
“The hell you say! Im not working at the old job! I’m working at the new job!” Shannon said GIVE ME MY MONEY! Facts 😂😂😂😂
That shit was hilarious
One more thing to note is that despite the owners constantly claiming poverty they have NEVER ONCE opened their books to prove it. This is because NFL teams are not allowed to lose money. It's literally in the NFL bylaws. A portion of merchandise sales goes into a fund which would pay any shortfalls any of the individual franchises could have. The teams will not allow each other to go broke. They ARE NOT losing money.
This is every industry in this country. They will call you lazy, selfish, a person that don’t want to work all because you don’t want to perform said duties for pennies 🤷🏽♂️
Love the show