"They hold intercourse in the tongue they share: I must make myself understood by gestures. Here it is that I am a barbarian; understood by nobody." So moving.
This is a world class presentation. What he says about New Testament scholarship and understanding of the 1st century is brilliant. One small gripe. I have lived in Romania (Tomi is modern Constanta) - Romanian is a language based on vulgate Latin (the language of the Legions). I have read many scholars who believe Latin WAS understood in Tomi. Although Ovid may have had trouble understanding THEIR pronunciation. Small gripe to an otherwise super lecture. As a (very mature) classics student I recommend it to anyone.
How he connected the creative literary activity of neoterics and others with the wars and political restlessness and 1st century, Augustan conservatism and Ovid's scandalous poetry was interesting.
Propertius had used elegiac couplets before Ovid for erotic content. Ovid was not the first to use this verse form for sexual content. Both are Bette reading than Paul.
Yes because that's the only way to have them believe that a)there was no soap in 10AD; and b)that there was no effective abortifacient; and, c) that there was no available anesthetic.
COVID-19 👀ovid1.9 Often it has been beneficial to attack sleepy enemies And to slaughter an unarmed crowd with an armed hand; Thus the fierce troops of Thracian Rhesus fell, And you, captured horses, deserted your master: Certainly lovers use the sleep of husbands And move their weapons after the enemies sleep.
at 36:36 he demonstrates that he is capable of holding out 2 fingers as normally denotes '2', but at 0:09 he says 'two' and does this strange gesture as though it should be accepted as 2.....hmmmm!
Read Gregory of tours: The Christian rulers who replaced Roman ones continued to keep slaves and also brought us torture and massacre of heretics and nepotism, supporting tyranny, crusades, pogroms witch hunts, miracle cures as well as failing to save plato and Aristotle . Our modern distaste for infanticide and other horrors comes mainly from the enlightenment. Modern religion has simply tried to co-opt all that humanity does to better itself and claim it was responsible.
Yeah that was some pretty wishful thinking I must confess *"Oh no Paul only understood slavery in a state that wasn't so bad!"* Its very clear from the rest of his speech that he should know enough about this time in the empire as to know better than to entertain that frankly stupid idea. The truth is only ever taffy in the hands of the religious🙄
Its interesting he points out that the discrimination towards females lead to the horrific aborting of new born female babies, any sane modern person will recognize this as evil insanity. Fast forward to the present age where the yearly percentage of abortions have reached the millions with some even calling for the legalization of late term abortion, and this is seen to many as a virtuous compassionate act on the part of society that benefits the rights of women. Had not the former been only exclusive to females would it still be an issue? Or seen only as a natural human practice that justifies the current institution that supports this practice? Fast forward many epochs into the future and it's interesting how they will view our current practices, perhaps in the future history books our current abortion practices will be seen as no less scandalous then the holocaust. Who knows, I personally understand the unfortunate necessity of having such practices available but cant see my way out of it being anything less then a tragedy.
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This is the greatest lecture I've ever witnessed.
I am new to Ovid and found this really interesting. His lecturing style is great.
"They hold intercourse in the tongue they share: I must make myself understood by gestures. Here it is that I am a barbarian; understood by nobody." So moving.
This is a world class presentation. What he says about New Testament scholarship and understanding of the 1st century is brilliant. One small gripe. I have lived in Romania (Tomi is modern Constanta) - Romanian is a language based on vulgate Latin (the language of the Legions). I have read many scholars who believe Latin WAS understood in Tomi. Although Ovid may have had trouble understanding THEIR pronunciation. Small gripe to an otherwise super lecture. As a (very mature) classics student I recommend it to anyone.
How he connected the creative literary activity of neoterics and others with the wars and political restlessness and 1st century, Augustan conservatism and Ovid's scandalous poetry was interesting.
Propertius had used elegiac couplets before Ovid for erotic content. Ovid was not the first to use this verse form for sexual content. Both are Bette reading than Paul.
on an unrelated note... do you need to be blonde to go to Biola?
Yes because that's the only way to have them believe that a)there was no soap in 10AD; and b)that there was no effective abortifacient; and, c) that there was no available anesthetic.
14:06 not Elder Pliny, but Elder Seneca
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👀ovid1.9
Often it has been beneficial to attack sleepy enemies
And to slaughter an unarmed crowd with an armed hand;
Thus the fierce troops of Thracian Rhesus fell,
And you, captured horses, deserted your master:
Certainly lovers use the sleep of husbands
And move their weapons after the enemies sleep.
Brilliant,exactly why I'm here,thankyou
As he was fleeing the enemy; Fannius killed himself
Is this, I ask, not crazy; dying to evade death?
- *Martial*
@@sydlawson3181 I ask, not crazy; banishing fear with love?
Oh no! Now poor old Ovid got his name associated with a nasty disease!
So Catullus lived 130 years, then? (1' 07"). hmmm. Interesing
That is a typo; he supposedly lived from 84-54 BC
@0:09 👀 What's with the fingers???
Those are Satanic, Masonic and Islamic hand signals used to summon alchemetic ,demon warlords of the inferno. Or he’s nervous about being filmed.
at 36:36 he demonstrates that he is capable of holding out 2 fingers as normally denotes '2', but at 0:09 he says 'two' and does this strange gesture as though it should be accepted as 2.....hmmmm!
Read Gregory of tours: The Christian rulers who replaced Roman ones continued to keep slaves and also brought us torture and massacre of heretics and nepotism, supporting tyranny, crusades, pogroms witch hunts, miracle cures as well as failing to save plato and Aristotle . Our modern distaste for infanticide and other horrors comes mainly from the enlightenment. Modern religion has simply tried to co-opt all that humanity does to better itself and claim it was responsible.
@1:37 That is not true
What a gifted speaker. His material is full of information. I enjoyed the maps pictures and illustrations. More please.
Yeah that was some pretty wishful thinking I must confess *"Oh no Paul only understood slavery in a state that wasn't so bad!"*
Its very clear from the rest of his speech that he should know enough about this time in the empire as to know better than to entertain that frankly stupid idea.
The truth is only ever taffy in the hands of the religious🙄
neither is 36:36 for about 10secs
Gotta love modern universities....to talk about classical antiquity and to walk away from it knowing one thing....men are bad. sigh
Its interesting he points out that the discrimination towards females lead to the horrific aborting of new born female babies, any sane modern person will recognize this as evil insanity. Fast forward to the present age where the yearly percentage of abortions have reached the millions with some even calling for the legalization of late term abortion, and this is seen to many as a virtuous compassionate act on the part of society that benefits the rights of women. Had not the former been only exclusive to females would it still be an issue? Or seen only as a natural human practice that justifies the current institution that supports this practice? Fast forward many epochs into the future and it's interesting how they will view our current practices, perhaps in the future history books our current abortion practices will be seen as no less scandalous then the holocaust. Who knows, I personally understand the unfortunate necessity of having such practices available but cant see my way out of it being anything less then a tragedy.