I was a HUGE fan 20 years ago when they first showed it off. Originally it was a hybrid or electric option, and it was rear wheel drive only making it much simpler. Recently they had to alter the drivetrain significantly, from in hub motors to a central motor, delaying production. If I am not mistaken the body is a combination of carbon fiber and fiberglass made in Modena Italy, not exactly cost effective. I’ve wanted to see these on the road for a long time, but the promises of Price, range, solar performance, all seem so unrealistic that I am afraid their delays will continue until they eventually run out of money and close shop. Unlike deposits, they are not obligated to refund investments.
Most new car companies fail. Without knowing anything else a gambler would follow the odds betting against any new car company. If Aptera does come to production I think Aptera has a better chance of staying in business than Rivian does. I own a Rivian and I still think Rivian has a greater than 50% chance of going bankrupt within a couple of years. If Aptera makes it to production they have a very short path to profitability. They just need to get to production.
@ when Aptera was first pitched, about 20 years ago, it was shown as almost production ready. A prototype actually competed in an electric vehicle competition. But they kept delaying with slight design changes. Some companies are formed with the intent of building things, others are hoping to be bought. They’re promising way more than they can deliver. Currently utilizing manufacturing techniques that aren’t scalable. And still are cheering about the car driving slowly around the parking lot.
@@jamescaldwell5 The first company failed for several reasons. One was the management. Steve and Chris left because the people they hired didn't share their vision. Another was a failure to secure a government loan of $150M. I disagree that the manufacturing process isn't scalable. CPC has all the dies and can stamp them out very quickly. The other parts, like the motors, are mostly from established companies. The production intent vehicles will tell us more about whether their claims are true or not. That should happen in a few months.
@ last I saw, they were using large cnc cut aluminum parts in the chassis. This process is too expensive to be used in a production vehicle. Carbon fiber body panels made in Modena Italy, that’s for extremely high end exotic cars. There are plenty of shops in the US that can make high quality Fiberglass body panels, a material that is very strong and lightweight if used properly, and much less expensive than carbon fiber. I think their solar charging claims are completely unrealistic. It would be so easy for them to create a charging demonstration with the intended panels and a battery, which would make for a very compelling video, but I think they are delaying the truth.
I love the Aptera. My preorder is about the 40k and my Reservation online tells me it should be in 2026 but not exactly holding my breath. I think they will have to fight their way to production and ramping up the numbers till they exist in production. I expect to probably see mine in 2027 and I expect at a bit higher price.
I like the concept, but can't see it working in real life any better than having solar panels on your roof and plugging into those to charge an EV. We have 10.5 kW of solar panels on our roof, and one day recently produced just 2.5 kW the entire day. That's equivalent to about 1/10th of a kW from 400W of solar panels on the Aptera, or 1 mile of range. Assuming the vehicle isn't shaded at any point during the day, which it will be because buildings and trees exist. So owners are going to have to plug in to charge much of the year, just like any EV owner. There are many other EVs already on the market that don't look like spaceships, and don't cost much more new, and a lot less used.
2:45 I didn't know there were four different options for solar. I would just have three options: no solar panels, everywhere expect the rear hatch (transparent hatch), or just everywhere.
The rear hatch is the one that should be optional, as some people like to look out their rear window and that bit of solar won't make ir break them financially.
I think they may only have 1 option, full solar, for a long time. That's if they make it to production. It seems the best way to do it. I think it would simplify the solar charging system.
@@mikaxms It is getting harder to be optimistic. I don't really understand why they can't seem to find an investor or a couple of them. There are many extremely wealthy people who could just write out check for that money.
I'm still waiting to see an Aptera that has enough solar panels on it to charge the battery enough to allow it to go 40 miles. Seems like this is all theoretical until they have that. I think you are right about streamlining production as well. Just start off offering one car that does the thing that makes Aptera unique. Show me the car. I'm feeling a bit wary of Aptera's claims, but I am hoping they turn out to be legit.
The solar panels produce a known amount of electricity. What we need are the actual vehicle efficiency numbers, which will tell us if thst solar can deliver. I would love it if computer simulations were accurate in real life, it could change the way vehicles are designed. Same thing for the crash test simulations.
I am waiting for the larger battery! Less I have to charge the better! The crowd funding campaign is for a 14 million dollar raise to cover operating expenses. The 60 million in convertible notes is for production.
@@Henry_D - Probably is but no recent SEC filings about it. So it seems like it's dead in the water. Even the excuse generators from the superfans have been shut off. Nobody talks about it anymore because we all found out it was a dud due to the lack of interest.
So far, out of that $60M needed, they have raised 1% of that. It was to be in 90 days but that has long passed. So now they are back to selling stock to try to get $15M.
You think? You think wrong. Aptera is still broke relative to ability to scale up to being a mass production car company. They have tens of millions of funding, not the tens of billions they absolutely would need if they were at all serious about going into production aiming for profit. I hold a reservation but I also do not hold my breath waiting for it. Chances of them becoming a manufacturer of this car by the tens of thousands is a single digit %. They might as well pivot to being a kit car company, selling us kits to build at home.
Unless they aren’t accurately portraying their operations, they don’t need billions in capital to build a mega factory. There are videos out there that describe their manufacturing strategy and they make sense.
They don't need billions to do it. In their videos they said their break even is 6000 vehicles and everything after that is profit. But they do need that $60 million to get all the tools for manufacturing mass produced vehicles. They do have that challenge and will probably face more, but I think they've come so far from 5 years ago. People don't seem to get what it takes to develop an entirely new vehicle from scratch and to make it for the general consumer. I cut them a lot of slack, because I love the vision and the vehicle.
How much longer? Isn't it about time these machines started actually appearing..even if this means a limited package of some description? On and on and on....7000 arriving next year? Certainly hope so..
This thing is taking too long. It feels like a Senior college EV challenge. I hope they succeed, but I will wait for version 2 as there is bound to be some growing pains.
They originally didn't think this many people would order an Aptera. They were going to hand build them, which is slow, but easier to do. Once they saw the high interest they had to completely rework their production methods, which led to carbon fiber, motor changes, etc. Their mass production method seems well thought out for ease of use and scaling, but that much planning takes time.
@@jasonhochstrasser8657 - How did they determine there was high interest? I'll give you an example. Elio Motors got 65K reservations in 52 months. Aptera got 50K reservations in 60 months. Both got the bulk in the first two years then it tapered off. Plus Aptera has $70 to $100 fully refundable deposits while 57K of Elios were non refundable and many were for $1K. It was determined that the interest in Elio was not high enough for serious investment. As we see, no serious investment has come in for Aptera. Also, their plan for mass production is not well thought out at all. Just because Sandy Monro made a video of assembly, doesn't make it right. Plus, lots of the production of parts seems to be glossed over (especially the bink and frame).
These 30K are a pre Covid, pre inflation estimate, when Aptera still thought they could build the body inhouse like a boat hull. Vacuum form 4 parts, glue them together, ready. Cheap and easy. Now they need a real aluminium frame, the the plastic parts are glued onto. Made in Italy and transported by ship to the US. That alone adds at least 15K to the bill.
The Italian parts will cause a greater initial loss per vehicle, but will allow for mass production and scaling, which should give them a shorter road to profitability. They think they need 6000 vehicles a year for profitability. A full daytime shift should get them 10,000 vehicles a year, and adding a night shift would double that. Rivian and Lucid haven't come close to profitability. I hope they do. IF Aptera gets to market, I think they will reach profitability faster.
@@jasonhochstrasser8657 Aptera needs to sell their vehicle for at least 55k$ to be profitable. AFTER building up their production they can use scaling of mass production. So AFTER succesfully selling 10K+ vehicles every year for several consecutive years, they may go down in price to 45k$. That is the way. Not the other way round. Rivian and Lucid are bleeding money like hell. Lucid loses 400k$ per vehicle, Rivian at least 50K$. Where are the sponsors willing to pay Billions to Aptera? So they can sell their motorcycle for under 35K? Sandy Munro said that Aptera will need at least 300Mill$ to start production. (When he still thought that Aptera will build the body cheap and easy like a boat hull. Inhouse. ) Even this money is nowhere near in sight. But maybe Sandy is not the kind of person to trust with these kind of numbers.
I've been waiting for this car since the original announcement during their first go-round. To me, it's the one that got away. I won't let that happen again. When there was an announcement to re-launch, I canceled any plans I had of getting a Tesla or other EV. This is the car I want. I'll be investing in the very near future. So far this is the only thing that's properly excited me more than my 350Z. The solar charging & my driving patterns are icing on the cake. I do wish there were more manual controls.. but I've had a decade to learn how to design circuitboards, microelectronics, and anything else I might want to mod into it. And they seem open in a lot of respects. So, yes. I want it. If it releases, it will be mine. I typically buy used cars, fix them myself, and don't bother with a car payment. This has saved me tons over the years in insurance & monthly costs. This car will be the exception. I'll buy it new, as soon as I can, in white. Looking forward to driving around the mountains in this & testing out that camping feature as well. I'll be integrating a starlink into the cabin as well for mobile net. I intend to turn it into a mobile command center. Maybe with some mods, something akin to a Jumper from Stargate ;)
their claims of efficiency/solar distance/aero efficiency, are all just claims. No real world data ever released, in fact data has been supressed in my view, they will go bankrupt sooner or later, probably sooner. So many reasons for it, the patent litigation that showed they have no patent on the design, is one big concern. Steve Fambro in one podcast claimed they bought back the IP but later shown not the case.........dishonest in that particular instance.
Just beware of pricing. Telo is probably closer to reality despite China now being in Mexico offering 20K all electric. I would not be surprised if all these vehicles start at 50k come their actual rollout which the longer that takes the higher their base price point probably.
Telo is a couple of years behind where Aptera is now. But they are cool. I anticipate the price for Aptera accelerators will be $39,999, but it will go down to $35,999 once the rich accelerators have taken delivery. Aptera cannot go too high on pricing ($49,999) otherwise they will scare the rest of the 47,000 pre-orders away.
The pricing is going to go up because when you read their USCG proposal, the BOM is pretty high and thus the current pricing is too low. Don't worry the superfans will believe it. My Aptera will cost $53K (according to the order page) and it's a mystery as to when I get it.
@@billsmith5960 I would be surprised if Aptera comes in below 45-50K. The problem for really going to scale with these is it would have to be closer to 20-25K given its size etc. I don't know how many people will really buy it at 40-45K. It still remains very niche in that scenario. Which is why I always thought there should be a kit option or DIY option.
@@speciesofspaces - My Aptera is $53K. My delivery date is TBD. On the other hand, why order an Aptera now when the price will go down when they get to scale. It's like flushing money down the toilet. This is why I am waiting to buy the $11,900 FUV instead of the $19,900 current one. When they ramp up production, the price goes down. That's what the CEO said and he must be right. He's the CEO. As for a kit option, they will never do that. People wanted Elio to do the same thing.
@@GearboxPizza My wife and I have followed Aptera since the very beginning, and have been order holders and investors since November of '21. Can't wait for the Production Intent reveal at CES in January!!
@@nosoupforyou425 - Don't worry, Aptera makes lots of claims and then the superfans just repeat it over and over again. They day it enough, it's fact. Aptera has driven the Gamma around and I bet there was a crosswind, so it passed. Aptera drove the Gamma on a paved parking lot in Switzerland, it's good for the snow. Aptera was backed into by a BMW, crash tested. Now no need to crash test. No need for a million miles of testing. The Aptera is ready to go.
Maybe if the Mango Mussolini imposes his proposed tax plan, otherwise APTERA has done a great job of keeping production costs down with the help of Sandy Munro. LE should be
@@johnvoules7447 Aptera does not produce anything, so how could they keep production cost down? They spent 160Mill$ without even producing a single roadworthy production prototype.
With the continuously dropping lithium prices, it has now become cheaper to replace a battery pack than rebuild an engine. Plus, the new battery manufacturer for Aptera will help bring down the cost to its lowest. Everyone knows that battery in an EV is the most expensive part of the vehicle.
Any arguments to go with this affirmation? If I'm not mistaken prius prime and fisker ocean, with less panels and less efficient body, are able to do 5-7 miles of solar per day. What makes you believe that Aptera, given all it's differences, will draw the same?
The users report between gaining 1 mile a day, or that the solar charging is less than the vampire drain so they have -1 mile instead of +5 Video from a user ruclips.net/video/-UZn3zkPges/видео.htmlsi=AQn5daGU4xYHn_42
@@madmotorcyclist Nope. The only real data you get is a glimpse onto the Aptera onboard computer while test driving. That tells you 200W solar yield in perfect weather condition.
As Victor Hugo once said, "No force on Earth can stop an idea whose time has come." 💚
That was a very good review (summary) of the vehicle and the company!
Dude! Thanks so much
35-65 they make it. Reservation holder for 3.5 years already. This is the one I want so bad too, oh and the sadly departed Nimbus1.
Is Nimbus departed?
But have always loved the Aptera - they cannot do dealer network, but plan to release it with full details on repairs 🤓🤞💪👍
I was a HUGE fan 20 years ago when they first showed it off. Originally it was a hybrid or electric option, and it was rear wheel drive only making it much simpler. Recently they had to alter the drivetrain significantly, from in hub motors to a central motor, delaying production. If I am not mistaken the body is a combination of carbon fiber and fiberglass made in Modena Italy, not exactly cost effective. I’ve wanted to see these on the road for a long time, but the promises of Price, range, solar performance, all seem so unrealistic that I am afraid their delays will continue until they eventually run out of money and close shop. Unlike deposits, they are not obligated to refund investments.
Most new car companies fail. Without knowing anything else a gambler would follow the odds betting against any new car company. If Aptera does come to production I think Aptera has a better chance of staying in business than Rivian does. I own a Rivian and I still think Rivian has a greater than 50% chance of going bankrupt within a couple of years. If Aptera makes it to production they have a very short path to profitability. They just need to get to production.
@ when Aptera was first pitched, about 20 years ago, it was shown as almost production ready. A prototype actually competed in an electric vehicle competition. But they kept delaying with slight design changes. Some companies are formed with the intent of building things, others are hoping to be bought. They’re promising way more than they can deliver. Currently utilizing manufacturing techniques that aren’t scalable. And still are cheering about the car driving slowly around the parking lot.
@@jasonhochstrasser8657 - There's way more than just making it to production. I don't see what their short path is to profitability is.
@@jamescaldwell5 The first company failed for several reasons. One was the management. Steve and Chris left because the people they hired didn't share their vision. Another was a failure to secure a government loan of $150M. I disagree that the manufacturing process isn't scalable. CPC has all the dies and can stamp them out very quickly. The other parts, like the motors, are mostly from established companies. The production intent vehicles will tell us more about whether their claims are true or not. That should happen in a few months.
@ last I saw, they were using large cnc cut aluminum parts in the chassis. This process is too expensive to be used in a production vehicle. Carbon fiber body panels made in Modena Italy, that’s for extremely high end exotic cars. There are plenty of shops in the US that can make high quality Fiberglass body panels, a material that is very strong and lightweight if used properly, and much less expensive than carbon fiber. I think their solar charging claims are completely unrealistic. It would be so easy for them to create a charging demonstration with the intended panels and a battery, which would make for a very compelling video, but I think they are delaying the truth.
I love the Aptera. My preorder is about the 40k and my Reservation online tells me it should be in 2026 but not exactly holding my breath. I think they will have to fight their way to production and ramping up the numbers till they exist in production. I expect to probably see mine in 2027 and I expect at a bit higher price.
Except, the later they are, the lower the cost of batteries, which are the most expensive part
@@johnhayes3314 - Not according to Aptera.
I like the concept, but can't see it working in real life any better than having solar panels on your roof and plugging into those to charge an EV.
We have 10.5 kW of solar panels on our roof, and one day recently produced just 2.5 kW the entire day. That's equivalent to about 1/10th of a kW from 400W of solar panels on the Aptera, or 1 mile of range. Assuming the vehicle isn't shaded at any point during the day, which it will be because buildings and trees exist.
So owners are going to have to plug in to charge much of the year, just like any EV owner. There are many other EVs already on the market that don't look like spaceships, and don't cost much more new, and a lot less used.
2:45 I didn't know there were four different options for solar. I would just have three options: no solar panels, everywhere expect the rear hatch (transparent hatch), or just everywhere.
Initially, the Launch Edition has the full solar package and 400 mile battery.
The rear hatch is the one that should be optional, as some people like to look out their rear window and that bit of solar won't make ir break them financially.
I think they may only have 1 option, full solar, for a long time. That's if they make it to production. It seems the best way to do it. I think it would simplify the solar charging system.
@@tims8603 Yeah, IF they make it to production. I keep hoping, but it feels like they’ll forever be 9 months away from production.
@@mikaxms It is getting harder to be optimistic. I don't really understand why they can't seem to find an investor or a couple of them. There are many extremely wealthy people who could just write out check for that money.
Aptera is one of the seemingly few things to look forward to in the future. Good synopsis!
I'm still waiting to see an Aptera that has enough solar panels on it to charge the battery enough to allow it to go 40 miles. Seems like this is all theoretical until they have that. I think you are right about streamlining production as well. Just start off offering one car that does the thing that makes Aptera unique. Show me the car. I'm feeling a bit wary of Aptera's claims, but I am hoping they turn out to be legit.
I'll let you know when I see it at CES 2025
The solar panels produce a known amount of electricity. What we need are the actual vehicle efficiency numbers, which will tell us if thst solar can deliver. I would love it if computer simulations were accurate in real life, it could change the way vehicles are designed. Same thing for the crash test simulations.
I want one.
I am waiting for the larger battery! Less I have to charge the better! The crowd funding campaign is for a 14 million dollar raise to cover operating expenses. The 60 million in convertible notes is for production.
Appreciate the info. Feeling like 2025 is going to be a big year.. fingers crossed.
Is the convertible note even going anymore?
@@Henry_D - Probably is but no recent SEC filings about it. So it seems like it's dead in the water. Even the excuse generators from the superfans have been shut off. Nobody talks about it anymore because we all found out it was a dud due to the lack of interest.
I would certainly have one if it becomes available in the UK
Invested and hoping!
After postponing the release date for the fifth time and delaying it by 2+ years, they only need the third "last" round of investing of "only" $60M.
$60 Million buys the machines in the plant, rather than hand crafting each vehicle.
So far, out of that $60M needed, they have raised 1% of that. It was to be in 90 days but that has long passed. So now they are back to selling stock to try to get $15M.
You think? You think wrong. Aptera is still broke relative to ability to scale up to being a mass production car company. They have tens of millions of funding, not the tens of billions they absolutely would need if they were at all serious about going into production aiming for profit. I hold a reservation but I also do not hold my breath waiting for it. Chances of them becoming a manufacturer of this car by the tens of thousands is a single digit %. They might as well pivot to being a kit car company, selling us kits to build at home.
Unless they aren’t accurately portraying their operations, they don’t need billions in capital to build a mega factory. There are videos out there that describe their manufacturing strategy and they make sense.
Well said. I believe funding will prevail between USCG & crowd funding raises, CA energy grant, Aptera Solar, and ultimately IPO @@greghelton4668
They don't need billions to do it. In their videos they said their break even is 6000 vehicles and everything after that is profit. But they do need that $60 million to get all the tools for manufacturing mass produced vehicles. They do have that challenge and will probably face more, but I think they've come so far from 5 years ago. People don't seem to get what it takes to develop an entirely new vehicle from scratch and to make it for the general consumer. I cut them a lot of slack, because I love the vision and the vehicle.
Let's see Chris and Steve be open about the challenges they face. That would likely engender higher optimism.
They have. The only challenge is getting more funding.
How much longer? Isn't it about time these machines started actually appearing..even if this means a limited package of some description? On and on and on....7000 arriving next year? Certainly hope so..
This thing is taking too long. It feels like a Senior college EV challenge. I hope they succeed, but I will wait for version 2 as there is bound to be some growing pains.
They originally didn't think this many people would order an Aptera. They were going to hand build them, which is slow, but easier to do. Once they saw the high interest they had to completely rework their production methods, which led to carbon fiber, motor changes, etc. Their mass production method seems well thought out for ease of use and scaling, but that much planning takes time.
@@jasonhochstrasser8657 - How did they determine there was high interest? I'll give you an example. Elio Motors got 65K reservations in 52 months. Aptera got 50K reservations in 60 months. Both got the bulk in the first two years then it tapered off. Plus Aptera has $70 to $100 fully refundable deposits while 57K of Elios were non refundable and many were for $1K.
It was determined that the interest in Elio was not high enough for serious investment. As we see, no serious investment has come in for Aptera.
Also, their plan for mass production is not well thought out at all. Just because Sandy Monro made a video of assembly, doesn't make it right. Plus, lots of the production of parts seems to be glossed over (especially the bink and frame).
This video is awesome! Can I add a clip of it to my next news video?
Yea man, go for it!🤘
Aptera at CES 2025!
Come check them out!
I will be there.
Nice! Looking forward to meeting everyone within the Aptera community!
These 30K are a pre Covid, pre inflation estimate, when Aptera still thought they could build the body inhouse like a boat hull. Vacuum form 4 parts, glue them together, ready. Cheap and easy. Now they need a real aluminium frame, the the plastic parts are glued onto. Made in Italy and transported by ship to the US. That alone adds at least 15K to the bill.
The Italian parts will cause a greater initial loss per vehicle, but will allow for mass production and scaling, which should give them a shorter road to profitability. They think they need 6000 vehicles a year for profitability. A full daytime shift should get them 10,000 vehicles a year, and adding a night shift would double that. Rivian and Lucid haven't come close to profitability. I hope they do. IF Aptera gets to market, I think they will reach profitability faster.
@@jasonhochstrasser8657 Aptera needs to sell their vehicle for at least 55k$ to be profitable. AFTER building up their production they can use scaling of mass production. So AFTER succesfully selling 10K+ vehicles every year for several consecutive years, they may go down in price to 45k$. That is the way. Not the other way round.
Rivian and Lucid are bleeding money like hell. Lucid loses 400k$ per vehicle, Rivian at least 50K$. Where are the sponsors willing to pay Billions to Aptera? So they can sell their motorcycle for under 35K?
Sandy Munro said that Aptera will need at least 300Mill$ to start production. (When he still thought that Aptera will build the body cheap and easy like a boat hull. Inhouse. ) Even this money is nowhere near in sight. But maybe Sandy is not the kind of person to trust with these kind of numbers.
I've been waiting for this car since the original announcement during their first go-round.
To me, it's the one that got away.
I won't let that happen again. When there was an announcement to re-launch, I canceled any plans I had of getting a Tesla or other EV.
This is the car I want.
I'll be investing in the very near future.
So far this is the only thing that's properly excited me more than my 350Z. The solar charging & my driving patterns are icing on the cake.
I do wish there were more manual controls.. but I've had a decade to learn how to design circuitboards, microelectronics, and anything else I might want to mod into it. And they seem open in a lot of respects.
So, yes. I want it. If it releases, it will be mine. I typically buy used cars, fix them myself, and don't bother with a car payment. This has saved me tons over the years in insurance & monthly costs.
This car will be the exception. I'll buy it new, as soon as I can, in white.
Looking forward to driving around the mountains in this & testing out that camping feature as well. I'll be integrating a starlink into the cabin as well for mobile net. I intend to turn it into a mobile command center.
Maybe with some mods, something akin to a Jumper from Stargate ;)
This rolling death box sounds like vaporware. Where do I sign up?
A handful of working prototypes exist, including production intent units. It’s not vaporware. Also what makes you think it’s a death box?
their claims of efficiency/solar distance/aero efficiency, are all just claims. No real world data ever released, in fact data has been supressed in my view, they will go bankrupt sooner or later, probably sooner. So many reasons for it, the patent litigation that showed they have no patent on the design, is one big concern. Steve Fambro in one podcast claimed they bought back the IP but later shown not the case.........dishonest in that particular instance.
Just beware of pricing. Telo is probably closer to reality despite China now being in Mexico offering 20K all electric. I would not be surprised if all these vehicles start at 50k come their actual rollout which the longer that takes the higher their base price point probably.
Telo is a couple of years behind where Aptera is now. But they are cool. I anticipate the price for Aptera accelerators will be $39,999, but it will go down to $35,999 once the rich accelerators have taken delivery. Aptera cannot go too high on pricing ($49,999) otherwise they will scare the rest of the 47,000 pre-orders away.
The pricing is going to go up because when you read their USCG proposal, the BOM is pretty high and thus the current pricing is too low. Don't worry the superfans will believe it. My Aptera will cost $53K (according to the order page) and it's a mystery as to when I get it.
@@billsmith5960 I would be surprised if Aptera comes in below 45-50K. The problem for really going to scale with these is it would have to be closer to 20-25K given its size etc. I don't know how many people will really buy it at 40-45K. It still remains very niche in that scenario. Which is why I always thought there should be a kit option or DIY option.
@@speciesofspaces - My Aptera is $53K. My delivery date is TBD. On the other hand, why order an Aptera now when the price will go down when they get to scale. It's like flushing money down the toilet. This is why I am waiting to buy the $11,900 FUV instead of the $19,900 current one. When they ramp up production, the price goes down. That's what the CEO said and he must be right. He's the CEO.
As for a kit option, they will never do that. People wanted Elio to do the same thing.
Good update here!
Thanks man! Appreciate the sub and all that🤘
@@GearboxPizza You're welcome man, we appreciate the good Aptera content!
@@GearboxPizza My wife and I have followed Aptera since the very beginning, and have been order holders and investors since November of '21. Can't wait for the Production Intent reveal at CES in January!!
very exciting!🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞
Ya been saying they were starting selling any minute last 3 years. Elio did the same. Dought they will ever sell any.
DOA... This will never see the light of day.
Aptera will be at CES 2025! 🎉
@@stephenadams9211 But not the North American Auto Show...
@@stephenadams9211 - Elio Motors and Arcimoto were at CES too. You see how well that worked out for them.
With 50,000 pre-orders and production-intent vehicles being built, where is the data that confirms your opinion
@@johnhayes3314 pre-orders mean nothing, building a handful of vehicles mean nothing. My "opinion" is accurate until they prove otherwise.
No, no.
The Aptera is a waste of space.
This thing needs the weight of the larger battery pack for interstate travel
The design is supposedly aerodynamics left and right, too, which means semi-trucks won't be blowing them around like some people think.
@jasonhochstrasser8657 that is yet to be proven, but I sure hope so.
@@nosoupforyou425 - Don't worry, Aptera makes lots of claims and then the superfans just repeat it over and over again. They day it enough, it's fact.
Aptera has driven the Gamma around and I bet there was a crosswind, so it passed.
Aptera drove the Gamma on a paved parking lot in Switzerland, it's good for the snow.
Aptera was backed into by a BMW, crash tested.
Now no need to crash test. No need for a million miles of testing. The Aptera is ready to go.
It weighs about the same as my Honda Fit which weighs 2,500lbs and is way more aerodynamic. My Fit is fine on the highway.
@@tims8603 - Does the Fit have a single rear tire?
The first few years the aptera will cost around 50k, anything less and they will lose on every car made
The price was unrealistic from the start
Maybe if the Mango Mussolini imposes his proposed tax plan, otherwise APTERA has done a great job of keeping production costs down with the help of Sandy Munro. LE should be
@@johnvoules7447 Aptera does not produce anything, so how could they keep production cost down? They spent 160Mill$ without even producing a single roadworthy production prototype.
Should be, why
Why should it not cost what it costs
35k is not possible
With the continuously dropping lithium prices, it has now become cheaper to replace a battery pack than rebuild an engine. Plus, the new battery manufacturer for Aptera will help bring down the cost to its lowest. Everyone knows that battery in an EV is the most expensive part of the vehicle.
The battery price has little impact on the total price, look at their bill of materials.
The solar charge will be around 5 miles per day, not the 40 miles promised
Any arguments to go with this affirmation?
If I'm not mistaken prius prime and fisker ocean, with less panels and less efficient body, are able to do 5-7 miles of solar per day.
What makes you believe that Aptera, given all it's differences, will draw the same?
The users report between gaining 1 mile a day, or that the solar charging is less than the vampire drain so they have -1 mile instead of +5
Video from a user
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@@bvgreui With Fisker, you are not right. The solar yield was abysmal. Prius I do not know.
Depends on where you live. According to the blender app I will get on average around 27 miles per day.
@@madmotorcyclist Nope. The only real data you get is a glimpse onto the Aptera onboard computer while test driving. That tells you 200W solar yield in perfect weather condition.