The Power and Practicality of Immutability by Venkat Subramaniam

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  • Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
  • Functional Programming promotes assignment-less programming. When we remove mutability, we reduce errors in code. How practical is it to really program with immutability in Java and if we manage to achieve that, what are the real benefits. Come to this talk to learn about the power, the benefits that immutability brings and how to practically make use of that in Java.
    Dr. Venkat Subramaniam is an award-winning author, founder of Agile Developer, Inc., creator of agilelearner.com, and an instructional professor at the University of Houston. He has trained and mentored thousands of software developers in the US, Canada, Europe, and Asia, and is a regularly-invited speaker at several international conferences. Venkat helps his clients effectively apply and succeed with sustainable agile practices on their software projects.
    Venkat is a (co)author of multiple technical books, including the 2007 Jolt Productivity award winning book Practices of an Agile Developer. You can find a list of his books at agiledeveloper.com. You can reach him by email at venkats@agiledeveloper.com or on twitter at @venkat_s.

Комментарии • 33

  • @sriganeshnagaraj9626
    @sriganeshnagaraj9626 4 года назад +2

    Very good question and answer at 50:23

  • @andersonmontanez8318
    @andersonmontanez8318 4 года назад +1

    Congratz Mr Venkat, your talks are always a sea a knowledge :)

  • @bawaparampreet24
    @bawaparampreet24 4 года назад +2

    he goofs up the example performance of imperative vs declarative.

    • @crabsynth3480
      @crabsynth3480 4 года назад

      What do u mean? Could u mention the time and what was goofed up?

    • @reallylordofnothing
      @reallylordofnothing Год назад

      @@crabsynth3480 he wanted to show that stream calls a collection of functions on each piece of data as opposed to imperative which calls functions on collection of data but both yellow stickers are the same, so not sure what he was trying to say there.

  • @eldiosdelcielo
    @eldiosdelcielo Год назад

    needless to say u rock

  • @ssougnez
    @ssougnez 4 года назад

    Man, that was awesome....

  • @surendrabisht2523
    @surendrabisht2523 3 года назад

    great.

  • @chordfunc3072
    @chordfunc3072 5 лет назад +2

    39:50 Awesome had to try it in dart and with Rx observables :p

    • @reallylordofnothing
      @reallylordofnothing Год назад

      Could you explain what is the difference between the two yellow sticky notes? they both are the same, so how did he explain the distinction between functions on all your data and collection of functions on each piece of data?

  • @swatibhatt9509
    @swatibhatt9509 5 лет назад +2

    As mentioned in 20:52 , Can you please explain how are you achieving thread safety using stream?

    • @armansingh3405
      @armansingh3405 4 года назад

      concurrentCollections would be used internally when relying on collectors with parallel streams.

    • @tarunpahuja3443
      @tarunpahuja3443 2 года назад

      I think point is stream uses lamba and lamba mandate variable to be effectively final.

  • @madhukiranattivilli2321
    @madhukiranattivilli2321 2 года назад

    @46:00 -- "Impure code"
    line #13 "factor[0] = 0;" would be executed only after the stream methods pipeline on lines 10-11 ends. If so, how is the value of 0 going into the body of Function.apply() for factor[0] but not 2?
    I understand why this is called impure code, but in this particular context -- this is confusing!
    Anyone understood the inner meaning?

    • @pritishnayak
      @pritishnayak 2 года назад

      Streams do not start running the pipeline until there's something collecting from them. In the example, venkat gave, the stream started collection on line 15 because forEach is a terminal operation.

    • @madhukiranattivilli2321
      @madhukiranattivilli2321 2 года назад +1

      @@pritishnayak Yes. Thanks for writing
      I realized this that day itself. Forgot to remove my msg :)
      Initially I didn't notice that stream object was assigned on line 10.

  • @orel1996
    @orel1996 5 лет назад

    Great lecture thank you

  • @bg8048
    @bg8048 6 лет назад

    In the immutable example of factor shown here. Is it good practise to assign the factor to another local variable so that function remains pure as long as code doesn't have any other dependencies on that local variable ?

  • @ILyaCyclone
    @ILyaCyclone 6 лет назад +1

    Great talk, thanks a lot for the speaker.

  • @trinhduyhung8211
    @trinhduyhung8211 3 года назад

    There seems to be something wrong with the increment method at 12:50. Anybody with me?

    • @duhudu
      @duhudu 3 года назад

      what do you mean? It's simply incrementing the passed value by 1 and passing the incremented value to next call stack.

  • @richardlyons7408
    @richardlyons7408 4 года назад

    For summing even numbers, why is he multiplying each even number by 2?

  • @USONOFAV
    @USONOFAV 4 года назад

    How can you make your Object immutable when you pass it along in your java 8 stream pipeline? Would it be ok to mutate object within the stream pipeline functions since only one thread will execute the whole pipeline?

    • @dislikepineapples
      @dislikepineapples 3 года назад +1

      I think usually you will create a new refence with the mutation applied to it, but I am a beginner to functional programming, so I am not sure.

  • @leonk6950
    @leonk6950 5 лет назад +1

    What is that editor with the live-evaluation of java?

    • @saloalvStuff
      @saloalvStuff 5 лет назад +5

      This gets posted on every one of his talks. According to other commenters, it's TextMate, a Mac OS X exclusive editor.

  • @Rajs4u
    @Rajs4u 5 лет назад +5

    Why to unfriend from FB if any body using goto 😂😂

  • @sushabh123
    @sushabh123 3 года назад

    25:11 totally relatable. Hahhaa

  • @赵云-z7z
    @赵云-z7z 5 лет назад +1

    Why did he take off his shoes?

  • @vjmonik4792
    @vjmonik4792 3 года назад

    Great insights. Two suggestions 1. Take a little complex examples. Everything he talks is about arrays and for loops. 2 he needs to be more crisp in his talks and videos can be half length. He repeats things too many times.

  • @willingtushar
    @willingtushar 3 года назад

    all good but the way he's pronouncing immutability, is something I can't handle