So Maybe I Was Wrong About PRIDE AND PREJUDICE **reaction/commentary**
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To everyone asking where the 'end scene' is.... it doesnt exist in the UK release of the movie. I think the 'extra' scene was just for the US.
I was seriously confused by the lack of the end scene. It is absolutely the best part of the movie. Please seek it out online.
FIND IT ONLINE YOU MUST - ITS SO PURE AND LOVELY
It's saccharine nonsense. I'm glad to see someone react to the original UK ending. When I saw the US ending in the theater, I actually cringed. It's way too much. Later, when I found out it was added, I immediately thought yeah, that makes complete sense.
My DVD has the regular ending without the kissing scene as the actual ending with the American kissing scene ending as a special feature
After all the tension, you finally get the kiss-payoff. Just seems odd to me that there's a version without it.
Someone once told me that if I were a character from Pride and Prejudice, I'd be Mr. Collins. And to this day, I have never been more offended and insulted.
😂😂😂😂
You should do your best to engratiate yourself with those that offended you. 😀
Dang. That's harsh, bro.
That’s a horrible offense 😭
That's an intense insult.
Darcy isn't the type of guy I would personally be attracted to, but as we get to know him throughout the book/film I think he becomes way more handsome. And it's also great because it goes with the whole "female gaze" and "emotional attraction vs physical attraction" thingy. Loved the video as always .
100% agree with this. He's average, and then by the end of the film I was hella SIMPING hahahaha
@@cbshamy3722 girls, you're lucky if he is average to you, i've mostly encountered MUCH more average men in my life
Started this movie saying “that’s the love interest?” and ending it with “He’s so fcking handsome and romantic, I wanted a man like him”
@@cbshamy3722 right
Same! He was most handsome when he smiled at her when she first meets his sister. I think I read somewhere that the clothing choices for him played into this, getting gradually looser as the movie progresses.
the way darcy says he hates dancing, and then when he asks her what the best way to show affection is and she says dancing, so at the next ball he asks her to dance, is everything to me
Then she tells him to practice speaking to people and he shows up the next day at the place she’s staying at to have the most tense and pained attempt at having a chat with her
Formal ball room etiquette equired gentileman to dance if there were ladys without partners. That is why Liz reproofed Darcy in front of his cousin for his lack of propriety. Of course the ball she referred to was a public ball and those rules might not have applied as much.
Fun fact: the actors playing Bingley and Jane had previously dated and broken up and then Rosamund Pike had to accept the proposal in such a way as if it's the best thing to ever happen to her... from her ex boyfriend. Sign of a true professional!
Whaaaat
Haha yup! If you watch the DVD with commentary he talks about it in the scene. But if you're big brain, all you have to do is put on the subtitles for the commentary while the audio is still just the film and just read his comments as they come up. Fun way to watch the film honestly. His commentary is kinda funny 🤣🤣
I never knew this!
@@ajvaldez42 watch the directors commentary. It's quite fun 😁
I doubt it was much trouble for her to do so since they didn't have an ugly break up and he had since come out as gay.
Matthew McFadyen does a brilliant job of playing a character who appears aloof but is actually just very shy. He plays it so that at a brief glance he appears expressionless, but he gives tiny little tells (helped by the amazing cinematography of course), and I think the fact that we're forced to study him to read him makes us feel more connected to him. It's like a tiny dopamine hit every time he reveals a little more of himself.
Also I'm so glad you recognized that Darcy is really just super awkward, because I think a lot of other reactors I've seen haven't really understood his character. This is my favorite live action movie and your reaction was amazing 😆
there are some people who think that he might have been on the spectrum, cos in the books, he's kind of a lurker. Of course, they didn't really have labels back then, but Jane Austen was such a good and keen observer of her own society that she actually picked this up and added it onto her character...
I agree. So many people miss so much not realizing that Darcy is not neurotypical.
Darcy is attracted to Elizabeth Bennet partly because she represents what he longs for in his own life....the ability to be comfortable with and communicate easily with other people, particularly family. She also represents a lack of affectation and a clear disregard for the regimented dictates of "polite" society. His own upbringing and his fear of relaxing the strict manner in which he holds himself and judges other people are clearly at war with his gentler feelings for Elizabeth.
Respectfully,
Then again, I believe that was kind of the point. We are supposed to believe that Mr. Darcy is this rude arrogant prick, we are seeing him through Elizabeth’s eyes and Elizabeth is very, well, prejudice. Also makes Lizzy’s, and the audience’s/reader’s, realization that he is not a prick, that she mistook shyness for arrogance all that much more impactful 🤗
Darcy trying to Keep it Together during the muddy dress scene like that dry Spongebob meme.
Yes, Mr. Collins was a cousin of the Bennet family, but he is also referred to as a "distant" relation. Mr. Bennet and Mr. Collins' father were cousins, not brothers, so the relationship we're looking at with Collins and Elizabeth would not have been a first cousin relationship. At closest, they would be 2nd cousins (meaning they share a great-grandparent as their nearest common ancestor), and it's very likely that the relationship was even more distant, given the way everything is described. Honestly, by the time you get to 3rd and 4th cousins, the two people are barely even related, just genetically speaking, and unless you come from a seriously genealogy-obsessed family, anything more distant than a 2nd cousin is not likely to be anyone you ever met or crossed paths with in life.
Having said that, first cousins were still marrying rather commonly at the turn of the 19th century, and it was not considered an odd thing, but by the 2nd half of the 19th century, cousin marriage was falling out of favor. The general consensus among people who study these things (anthropologists and historians and genealogists, etc.) is that tech advances in travel and urbanization were the main causes for the decline of cousin marriage in the Western world. In 1800, it was far less likely that you would meet many people outside of your extended family circle or the small community of your birth than in 1900. Trains, cities, and global trade brought in by the Industrial Revolution gave people more options and changed the way we dealt with class, primogeniture, and...consequently, cousin marriage.
TLDR: Yes, Collins was their cousin, but he was not their first cousin, and even if he had been, nobody at the time would've found that strange.
Was scrolling through the comments to see if anyone had addressed this, you’re the real MVP
It was also very encouraging by wealthy families that their cousin kids would marry each other so the family wealth would stay in the family and grow, so the wealthy would not only stay wealthy, but grow their power as well.
@@Caritopitaok Excellent point, and that's precisely what we see with Lady Catherine's insistence upon Darcy marrying his cousin Anne. The marriage of Pemberley's master to Rosings' heiress would keep ALL of that fortune, power, and status firmly within the Fitzwilliam family's bloodline.
I’m so glad you took the time and effort to address this topic in-depth. Of course Mr. Collins is annoying. He is enthralled with the patronage he receives from Lady Catherine. But if he had married one of the Bennett sisters, it would have been a good solution for the family, who were going to lose their home, and the income attached to it, once Mr. Bennett died and it passed on Mr. Collins. Such an arrangement would have been seen as very acceptable in the time. It was not the familiar relationship that was the objection Elizabeth had to Mr. Collins. Of course we would see the relationship between cousins as inappropriate by today’s standards. But you need to consider the morals and values of the time the story is set in. There is always a good deal of hinting in the various versions of the story that Mary Bennett would have been very happy to have married Mr. Collins.
Even beyond wealth people were not encouraged to marry outside of their own social circle. Social positions was very important. Even more so than wealth. lizzys Aunt and Uncle even though wealthy were not in their social circle because the were Trades rather than Landed gentrry like the Bennets. @@Caritopitaok
I absolutely love Donald Sutherland crying of happiness at the end, it was so well done. Makes me cry everytime, mostly because his version of Mr. Bennet reminds me a bit of my own dad🥺
What is forgotten is the fact that Mr Bennet was remiss in his efforts to provide a proper dowery for is daughters which he certainly could have done with his annual income from the estate. One would have to have understood the entail under which the estate was to pass from him to a male heir. Except for lizzy Mr Bennet was basically an absentee dad because most of his daughters reminded him of the mistake he made marrying who he did. As coming from unlanded gentry she was not raised in the proper decorum that was acceptable for his social circle. That was passed on to some of their daughters. Lydia being the prine example.
Mr 👏🏻 Darcy 👏🏻 is 👏🏻 the 👏🏻 standard
Yes!
To me, Colin Firth's Mr. Darcy is the standard. :D
I watched a video breakdown on the costuming of Mr. Darcy and how it subtly changes throughout the movie, reflecting his character arc. The outfit at the end, when he is walking towards her would be that period's equivalent of being almost unclothed for a man. He had no collar, no cravat, no waistcoat, and no frock coat. Just pants, shirt, and long overcoat. Scandalous! It really was a fascinating video.
One thing I always found extraordinary about Jane Austen's books were how EVERYONE seemed to know how many pounds per year any particular person had coming to them. No financial privacy it seems!
I never thought about it, but that’s so true. I can’t imagine a character like Darcy broadcasting that he has 10,000 a year so how does everyone know?
Yes, it was a much more normal thing back then to know everyone's income, especially since they didn't have jobs but had estates that earned them money.
@@AndrielleHillis Yes exactly, much of it was simply of public record.
The US release of the movie has an additional scene at the end AND IT'S HONESTLY STILL SO FILLED WITH TENSION AND IT'S GREAT I HOPE YOU CATCH IT
I was just going to say - where is the extra scene
@@criticalfallacy OMG! I had never see this!! So cute!
I thought everyone saw since I saw it when I first saw movie lol
@@0912sooli I live in Brazil, so maybe that's why I've never seen it
i didn't know that was for us release only. It's much less abrupt.
Jane Austen was a serious genius. She was a legend! The social commentary for her time period was impeccable and important for us later. She had a good idea of what a woman was that we are losing today. Her writing is so good every character is essential to the plot. Nothing is misplaced! She died way too soon.
When someone reads something for school _and_ only reads the bare minimum to pass of course they aren't going to enjoy it. Glad you gave it a real chance. It's worth it.
When I went to school we did not read Jane Austin, rather we read Weathering Heights. In retrospect it was a depressing novel. Jane did not become popular until much later.
@@WILTALK I took a special class where we read 4 of 6 of her books and the one's we didn't were taught in the same class as Wuthering Hieghts, which I always considered depressing, not just retrospectively. Different schools do it differently, I guess.
Pride and prejudice is literally my fav story but when I had to read it for school I could not pick it up for the life of me lol 😂
I wish I did this, instead I did Macbeth, Inspector Calls, A Christmas Carol and all 15 poems for literature. 😭
I know the story had to be edited for time, but here’s what they missed in this version. They are both super judgemental in the beginning. He judges her family and ‘inferiority’, she judges the fact that he IS RUDE. It’s not just shyness. His first proposal was basically, “you’re trash from a trash family but I like you anyway” and thought that was a flattering thing to say. AND it was arrogant of him to meddle with his friends love life based on his wrong assumptions. Her turning him down and saying he wasn’t being gentleman like was a wake up call for him.
In the end, she learned not to judge inner character based on outward niceties and rumours. He learn that he still has to be nice to people less wealthy than him. If he wants to be liked for his inner character (and not just his money, *cough* Caroline Bingly), he needs to show his character outwardly. They grow! They make each other better! 😭😭 That’s why it’s so gooooood!!
I 100% agree. The TENSION always kept me coming back to rewatch and every time I do, I find a new facial expression or subtle move that just makes it that much better.
I love the various versions of Pride and Prejudice for different reasons, but in this version.. I love how much more playful and warm he is around his sister. It just shows how comfortable he feels to be himself. Which only further speaks to how close he and his sister must be. Plus, I adore the way he gets speechless at the end "I love - I love - I love you".
08:14 Okay, this is a complicated subject but women were indeed allowed to own property and the like, at least until they married. However, there were often a lot of legal entailments put upon estates that might last up to (I think) two generations. Mr. Bennett's estate would go to his son, if he had one, but he did not. He expected to have one, and so did not save sufficiently for all his daughters. Because there is an entailment put upon his estate by the previous owner, it must go to the nearest male relative. Not all properties had entailments. If there were none, he could divide his property among his daughters. But because the the entailment he cannot. This is a very simplified version of the matter.
08:33 You are sooooo right. Mr. Collins may be one of the most hated characters in English literature who has not actually killed or sexually assaulted anyone. And he's less popular than some who have!
08:58 Cousins did indeed wed at this time, but I don't think they are first cousins.
12:16 YES. They are at least one of the major blueprints of this trope, along with Beatrice and Benedict in MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING. Would adore to see your reaction to that movie!
13:11 No, this was just one of many pretty accurate details from the REgency Period of England. Some of their food would make you vom. Really.
15:59 Yes, the whole world of marriage and courtship in the Regency was often just very very cruel. This young woman was making a calculated move to avoid starvation and poverty. And...yeeeecccchhhhh.
17:58 Dame Judy Dench.
18:20 I think this is one reason Regency romances are so popular. Men were supposed to be peacocks, to strut around and show themselves as desireable (when you can pull it off like Mr. Darcy), in part because they weren't allowed to talk to women except under very specific conditions. So, they communicated with body language. And yeah, Regency costumes look FANTASTIC!
YOur reactions are delightful! I wonder how you would react to PERSUASION (2007) with Sally Hawkins and Rupert Penry-JOnes? I think you would adore it!
You were on the money about the land and inheritance. The entrails were basically past generations trying to protect the estate from stupid children (since estates basically equaled money and status). Anne de bough (Catherine's niece), for example in pride and prejudice, is a female heir to her estate.
What you said was technically incorrect. The estate doesn't pass to the nearest male. Otherwise one of his daughters could bear a son and he would inherit the estate. It can only pass through the male line. It could not pass through a female at all.
@@jonathanparks207 Right. I stand corrected.
the love letter at the end of persuasion is the most romantic thing ever ~ i also liked the version with ciaran hinds in it ~
My great great grandparents were second cousins. They adopted my Granddad's dad or something, I think..
It took me a few re-reads of the book & re-watching a of the movie to finally understand why he broke up Jane & Bingley. Then I remembered what Mrs Bennet was saying at the ball that they expect an advantageous marriage. Advantageous means financially & successfully secure. Darcy thought the family was using Jane to get close to Bingleys money. It’s why he objected to the family & not Jane or Lizzie. But he did accuse Jane of leading Bingley on, & realized how wrong he was when Lizzie said that Jane is naturally shy. He realized he broke up a potential marriage based on prejudice. Middle class woman marries an upper class man while her immature family squanders his fortune? He wasn’t going to let that happen. And I can understand why he would think her family immature. When he says “the lack of propriety”, it means that Lizzies family had no proper place or could conform to the standards in high society because they were loud, rude & obnoxious. Kitty & Lydia got drunk at the ball & were loud flirts & Mary did her unwanted performance and never socialized while there mother walked around like she owned the place. He didn’t want Bingley marrying Jane because he thought the Bennett’s were obnoxious gold diggers using there daughter to stain upper class society. But notice how he didn’t lump Jane & Lizzie with them. Which means he’s not a full prejudice jerk. And he sees the Bennett’s in a different light after this because he takes the time to explain to Lizzie that he was sorry & helps her understand that she was falling for a F boy in Mr Whickham. And when Whickham manipulates immature Lydia, Darcy saves the Bennett’s from humiliation by paying off Whickhams gambling debts & got him commission in Newcastle. It was Darcy’s way of repaying the Bennett’s for breaking up Jane & Bingley & his apology to Jane was bringing Bingley to her to propose after re-kindling Bingleys love for Jane. Then Mr Collins opens his big mouth & sends a letter to Lady Catherine, congratulating her on Darcy’s engagement to Lizzie & we all know what happens next. Considering Darcy met with Lizzie in the gardens & knew about what his aunt did, it’s most likely he stood up to Catherine; professing love for Lizzie.
Darcy has one hell of a character development.
Its actually the opposite, Bingley is middle class (he doesn't own an estate yet but has a lot of money), Jane is what was called poor upper class. But the rest is on the money. Basically bingley is in the position to be taken advantage of because of his money and darcy is trying to prevent that.
Well said.
@@emilylewis5373 Came here to say this too. It's not just about money, though. It's really about actual *class* class, like social hierarchy you're born in, kind of class. Like, the Bennets and Mr. Darcy are members of the gentry, only one step below Peers of the realm (in fact, Mr. Darcy's mother *was* the daughter of an Earl, so he'd have been rubbing shoulders with Peers frequently.) Aka, they own land but don't have a title. The Bingleys, on the other hand, despite their money, are from the class of tradesmen. Butchers and bakers and dressmakers.
Socially, the Bennets were above the Bingleys, which is another kind of insight into Mr. Darcy's character, in that he values good manners and a good heart more than social status, which was capital V, Very Unusual. People who lived in that era would have found Caroline Bingley's behavior either incredibly hilarious or incredibly insufferable. The movie didn't show it, but she too was a caricature of people who didn't understand their place in the world.
@@aquiamorgan2416this also explains catherine trying to marry darcy. she isn't doing it for the money, but for the status and pedigree-- which is something darcy is probably very much aware of and something that makes sure he will never see catherine in that light.
i guess it's also why he ends up accepting the bennets, loud and obnoxious as they might be: he already did the same for the bingleys out of appreciation for his dear friend, so doing it again for the woman he loves and his dear friend's lovely bride was not that big of a sacrifice.
You should watch the alternate ending cause they do kiss in that and he calls her Mrs. Darcy. It's so cute! ❤️ When they play the movie on TV they usually play that version.
When the kiss in the alternate version they are already married. The restrictions before engagements were very strict. Even skin to skin such as holding hands by gloveless women was unusual. That is why the reaction when Darcy touches Lizzys gloveless hand helping her in the carriage. The in advertently broke propriety.
@@WILTALK that scene was so unnecessary and I cut it off any time I watch it.
The usa version has an extra ending where they do kiss and the 🌟tension🌟 is insane like its not in the books at all but im obsessed with it lmao
To me, that forehead touch is one of the most beautifully intimate things I've ever seen. I don't need kisses bro just give me a forehead touch during a pretty sunrise in the countryside and I'm all set.
Even if you dont read the book, then Elizabeth's discussion with Lady Catherine is perfection in how to insult someone while still being as polite as possible.
"I am only resolved to act in that manner, which will, in my own opinion, constitute my happiness, without reference to you, or to any person so wholly unconnected with me." Bear in mind that it was unthinkable in those days that a woman of Elizabeth's standing would talk that way to a woman like Lady Catherine.
I only saw bits and pieces of this movie after its release, it was not my taste at the time so I never bothered to sit and watch it, didnt even know what the full story was.... Then one day, just like you, I woke up and just had this NEED to watch this movie. I too did not get what the deal with this Mr Darcy, he aint even that cute........but by the end of the film I was completely feral for this man. I still get chills every time there's tension on screen and that end speech omg
Just want to say that marrying your cousin wasn't seen as that weird during this time. Darcy was also "betrothed" to his cousin, Anne de Bourgh. It was seen, especially by nobility and the aristocracy, as a way of consolidating wealth/property and keeping the bloodline "pure" (if you will). If you think about it, it was almost expected that Collins would propose to one of the Bennet girls. It would make the most sense for Lizzie and her family, as Collins is to inherit the estate, to keep them in their family home after Mr. Bennet's death. It was the "morally" right thing to do. That doesn't make it any less icky, though, haha
"She's had me a choke hold since I was like 10..." Same girl. Same. Also, watching you immediately start melting over the awesome tension in this movie is exactly what I needed today 😭 loved the video!
Pride and prejudice will always have a special place in my heart 😊❤️ it’s a timeless classic
As a tomboy growing up, I rejected any story with more than a touch of romance. P&P? That's for girly girls who've fantasized falling in love since they were 6, whose favorite color is pink, and is obsessed with horses; not me, I told myself. And then I watched the 2005 movie a year ago, and loved it so much that I read the book. I was blown away by how little women have changed over the centuries and how well Austen understood and expressed her thoughts. As I read, I'd get annoyed at Mr Collins and then laugh because I was upset by a fictional man created two hundred years ago. But I have to say, I didn't fall in love with Mr Darcy from the book--it was McFadden's portrayal that did it. I think it's because in the boom we see everything through Lizzie's eyes and any awkwardness from Darcy was expressed through her prejudice. But on the screen, you can see him try, fail, and try again to talk or express his feelings. You see the awkwardness for what it is and it's so relatable and *real*.
Anyway, that's my rant just to say 2005's version is it for me and that you don't have to be a girly girl to like romance.
pride and prejudice is one of my favorite movies ugh I love it so much
The first time I read Pride and Prejudice I was perhaps 14 or 15. I remember thinking that it feels like a trashy romance novel for teenage girls and young women. Except overrated because it was written a long time ago. And maybe it was the blueprint for later trashy romances. I guess I wasn't completely wrong about the blueprint part.
I gave it another chance at the University with a better understanding of society and people in general. And I couldn't believe what I was reading and what my younger self had overlooked in the same text. A subtle examination of human nature, a colourful description of society of the time, and everything was rich and layered. Not to forget, Jane Austen's dry wit is perhaps one of the foundations of today's British humour.
It's funny how if I was into trashy romances, I probably would've liked Pride and Prejudice as a teen but wouldn't have experienced it's beauty and may not have picked it up again ever again. Glad that didn't happen.
Tom Hollander (Mr. Collins) really is a wonderful actor. Not only does he portray the smarmy Collins here perfectly, he does a great job as a bit of a villain in the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise, AND he is precious as Dr. Thorne. You should react to that. It's Pride and Prejudice meets Downton Abbey. There are parts of the final episode (there's 4 episodes) that I gladly watch on repeat!
I just loved his characterization. He is almost my favorite character.
As someone who’s being forced to read pride and prejudice and HASNT read past page 100….this was needed
Find the audiobook on RUclips recorded by Karen Savage, it is lovely, and enjoyable☺️
Read it. It's really a good book. But, it wouldn't hurt to see the movie or miniseries first to get a solid interview for what happens in the novel
NO SPOILER - I'm used to the US release. When it ended I was like, wait? Lol You need to watch the ending of that one. It's a super short extra scene (I think you can find it on RUclips) but it will give you that fulfillment you need. 😉
I also did this for a school project and didn’t have a great time, but the movie makes me cry every single time. Darcy’s character development is unmatched😆and now I want to reread the book for fun!💕
Makes me happy to see that hand hold has such an effect on someone else. I'm a 44 yr old dad and when I saw it I was like "whoa".
It’s interesting because I always assumed men would find this movie boring
@@ngonz89 I am 78 years old and grew up at a time when men needed to express masculinity. I feel I incorperated the positives while rejecting the negatives of the times I grew up in. I love Jane Austin and her novels. I sometimes feel that my sense of propriety was more suited to that age. That is except for the class distinctions. There is no reason why men can not be gentleman and not be pussys.
You're robbing yourself not to read Pride and Prejudice. It's really funny and Jane Austen is on her A game with that book in particular. It's honestly just a joy to read.
As someone who listens to Pride and Prejudice's audio book completely at least 6 times a year (not including the times I'm just wanting an exert) at my job, watching you watch this was a test in fortitude. I want to sit down with you with tea or something and explain every plot point. I'm having fun, please don't think I'm not. It's just, if you could hear me going "baby no, you misunderstand" or "Oh wait for it" in my room lol.
Edit!!!!: (I commented before it was finished to help boost you in the algorithm cause it allegedly helps) THERE IS AN EXTENED ENDED!!
I think you should read the book. Your lack of understanding what life was like for women at that time has lead you to imperfectly understand the behavior of characters like Mrs Bennet. You see them through modern eyes and judge too harshly.
Yes, everyone gives Mr Bennet a pass while putting all the blame on Mrs Bennet for her attempt at fixing the problem her husband created.
I didn't like Jane Austen books until I learned a bit more about the author herself. To put it simply I thought she was too much a product of her time (not that I really understood what that would look like as a teenager myself at the time) and took the traditions and teachings of her time too seriously. Then I realised all those "serious" bits were meant to be ironic a lot of the time, and she had a great sense of humor. It completely changed the tone of the books for me. There is a huge difference between reading as a modern person "It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife" and thinking the author meant that literally and reading the rest of pride and prejudice with that mind set, and reading it with humor in mind and realising that it's a snippy commentary on Jane Austen's peers approach to marriageable men.
About Collins, he's a distant cousin of the Bennets so not a first cousin, or even a second or third cousin because that would still be worth mentioning, he's probably a fith or sixth cousin and by then they might as well not be related. The only reason they're aware of the relationship is that he's the closest male relation who can inherit the entailed property of Mr. Bennet, and the reason they are eager to marry one of the girls to him is so that one of them does get to "inherit" the family home and keep living there and their descendants with them, so that it stays in the family, rather than go to Collins who's barely related to them at all. Contrary to popular belief regency era people were aware of the risks of marrying closely related cousins and didn't do it often.
I love your serious squick reaction to cousins getting together. I was pretty surprised when working on my family history to find a few examples of first cousins marrying back in the 1600s and 1700s. There were a few more of second and third cousins marrying, probably to be expected in small town America back then.
He’s not actually her cousin tho, not a first cousin, anyway. He’s still creepy but not exactly incesty.
In an extended version of this movie, there's a post marriage scene right before the credits.
God I have such a soft spot for period romances 😭 I'm glad you're doing this one 💕
Yes! I was so shocked by this because I forgot that this used to be a drama. There were multiple versions. Why would anyone watch the one that wasn't ours. you watch them for two hours and got no kiss? That robbery.
You brought back the memory to me that I 1st watched this in my youth at my grandparents by myself and it was so wholesome and such a vivid, great memory
Lovely reaction! That version has grown on me, particularly Matthew's Darcy, but do you think you could do a reaction to the BBC miniseries? It's more TV/story, less cinematic/artistic, but it is beloved by many book fans, and has time to fit more events and linger over conversations and moments. Colin Firth's Darcy is fabulous, though more stoic.
I need to see people’s reaction the miniseries! Everyone does the film commentary only and they don’t know what they’re missing out on.
Right? And I think the miniseries has a bigger fan base, and there are multiple episodes, so more reactions and views.
I never got into miniseries...idk why, maybe cause I didnt like the actress or maybe cause its less cinematic even tho more accurate. I think I like movie cause its more for modern audience and more about sensuality and feelings
@@0912sooli I totally get that. For me it could be that the miniseries was the first adaptation of the book I saw, but I truly think its the pacing that I really love. It's more relaxed. I also like the costumes/hair better. It looks more like the fashion plates of the era. Though, the 2005 movie seems to be set a few years earlier, which causes some differences.
@@0912sooli Yeah, same. I think adaptations are supposed to have their own flair, and the series felt too much like a copy to me. I prefer the film for giving me the chance to look at the story anew.
It's so interesting to see a reaction from someone of such a different generation (every time you compared it to a film made after it i did have to smile), so unfamiliar with the book, the period and any previous adaptations. It really is a 'fresh eyes' look at just the film itself, without any of the baggage. Thanks. I also appreciated that you liked the Mr Bennet scene at the end. It's not in the '95 TV adaptation, which really knocks a star off for me, as it's such an important scene in the book. I love that they managed to make room for it here, even in a film length runtime.
I think the interaction between Lizzy and Mr Bennet made it a sure thing to be included. Although it was a good scene it tended to make Mr Bennet seem more sympathetic than he deserved to be.
Now you gotta do the BBC miniseries version!
I was thinking the same thing!
I was looking for this.
The Colin Firth miniseries is The standard for this novel
I reached the part where Mr Collins arrives and now im just waiting for Rebecca to realize hes the antagonist in Pirates of the Caribbean, the dude that controls David Jones (cant remember his name)🤣🤣
Omg this is absolutely unacceptable. You have to see that extra scene in your free time. It’s so fulfilling 🥺 I didn’t know they cut the movie short like that outside of the U.S.
It was not cut short. The scene was added for the US market because they would not understand it from the perspective of the times it was written. They would not appreciate the scene where they held hands and touched forheads. Much more romantic than a simple kiss.
“Much more romantic” to you. I see where you’re coming from, but the updated version is more satisfying to me regardless. The movie is appreciated regardless. Also, on some television channels the ending is actually cut off. I didn’t know of the ending scene until I bought it on Prime 5 years ago during my freshman year of college.
The added ending scene*
I’m happy you replied! You made me realize I need to go watch Pride and the Prejudice
you have to watch the "and how are you this evening mrs darcy" scene, its really the perfect ending and idk why they cut it
They didn’t cut it. The scene was actually added for the US audience.
1. People at that time OFTEN married their own cousins.
2. People in Pakistan and India (and immigrants from those places in Britain) regularly marry their own cousins.
I think the part about "It is a thruth universally acknowledged..." is in the cameo of the books she is reading. It's the first page of First Impressions which was the name of the book before it became pride and prejudice.
Now u see why this is one of my favorite movies if not my #1 fav! It's just masterfully done. The tension is done so well, it's so subtle which I think adds to the beauty of it cuz it's not over the top and in ur face. It's very realistic and imo very pure. It's beautiful. And the acting is *chefs kiss*, the score is *chefs kiss*, the cinematography is *chefs kiss*... literally everything is so good. It's just beautiful on every level. And I know some people prefer the bbc miniseries bc it's more book accurate but idgaf.. this is my pride and prejudice. It's perfect to me, and I'm sorry but Keira and Matthew are my Lizzie and Darcy. So good!!
Agreed, i prefer this movie over the mini series. Keira and matthew are my lizzie and darcy
lol I got through the book by watching the lizzie bennet series on youtube, but when they showed the movie in class it altered my brain chemistry. I dont even like period pieces but I was obsessssed. I loved this reaction so much seeing you love the build up and tension.
Mr. Collins and Mr. Bennet are first cousins. Mr. Bennet's father and Mr. Collins' mother were siblings.
I love how Rebecca finds a way to reference Twilight in every video reaction 😂
THE EXTRA SCENE NOOOOOO PLEASE WHY
And also about the hole marring you "cousin" thing. I know it's totally crazy now but it was actually pretty common in that time period! Specially if he was supposed to inherit!
It’s amazing how excitingly we respond to these period pieces, just goes to show how we admire the littlest things and genuine in romance
Quick historical lore for you! Back in that day, skin to skin touch between an unwed man and woman was reserved strictly for dances only.
This makes the scenes where they touch hands all the more intimate, and why a regular kiss at the end wasn't needed, since Elizabeth was boldly holding and kissing his hand (oh my!) Same near the beginning when he helped her into the carriage and she stares at him, shocked, while he flexes his hand as if he has tingles afterwards.
I love the instant regret after saying down and dirty 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Your twilight references crack me up every time 😂 first time watching this movie through you and now I want to go see it all
THERE WAS ONE MORE SCENE
Clarification: a woman COULD inherit a property (like the heir of Rosings Park). So maybe there was a clausule in this family's particular testament that stated only a man could inherit. The book said Mr. Bennet always asumed he would have a son (so didn't take the trouble to change the will) until it was too late.
You should do Sense and Sensibility and Emma. A whole Jane Austen moment 😩
Now that you've seen this, you MUST watch the miniseries version with Colin Firth. Because it is a miniseries, you get a more realistic progression of Elizabeth and Mr. Darcy's relationship. The acting is also top shelf.
True. The mini series is excellent. I like the slow progression. Also, the casting is on point. I really enjoyed the movie. But not as much.
GIRLY PLEASE REACT TO THE EXTRA SCENE!!! Is not long so it can be a Short, but please do it! For sure you're gonna love it (we have Darcy and Lizzie there already as a married couple and it's simply bewitching)
16:51 That’s Judi Dench. She was “M” in Pierce Brosnan and Daniel Craig’s James Bond
Collins is super awkward, but he is just a simpleton not creepy or anything. He is a good guys just boring and eccentric. Also, cousin marriage was very common and not gross at the time and in this case would have been advantageous for the family so all the girls would still have a home to live in. Glad you finally got to enjoy this film. It’s in my top 3 movies of all time.
Book Collins is not good person, he is boasting around with Lady Catherines name, flatters powerful people, has false humility plus when Lidia run away he said how lucky he is that he didn't marry Elizabeth. But he is harmless.
This was delightful to watch, I adore this movie and love seeing people introduced to it. I love that you understood Darcy through the film and saw his shyness. And yea, marrying cousins wasn't considered a bad thing back then. Collins is just as seriously ick in the book as he is in the film and the actor did a great job portraying that. lol!
There are a lot of stories based on the Pride and Prejudice blueprint - the one that always comes to mind for me is Bridget Jones' Diary. Not only is one of her love interests named Darcy, he's also played by Colin Firth, who played Mr. Darcy in the British miniseries of Pride in Prejudice.
AAHH you really get it!! This was such a delight I REALLY would love you to watch more Jane Austen, specifically Sense and Sensibility and Emma (2020) if you loved this, you would love those too!!
She should definitely do Emma but the 2009 miniseries ❤
So "cousin" can be your aunts child or like 6th removed. Plus there was the fact that people didn't move. They rarely got out of the county so your options were limited.
Also in this time 27 WAS old. People lived to like 50-60. So thats middle aged.
I was lucky enough to have a fantastic literature teacher who was OBSESSED with Pride and Prejudice, so a whole chunk of the school year was studying this book-- she made sure to give us really clear historical context for the subtleties of Regency era society and it made understanding the story so much easier and more entertaining. The amount of politely and eloquently-spoken SASS and SHADE they throw around is brilliant. Even the famous opening line, "It is a truth universally acknowledged..." is DRIPPING with sarcasm-- oh yes, mother, a single rich man exists nearby, so OF COURSE he MUST be looking to marry the first young woman he sees, so we MUST immediately throw ourselves into his field of vision! Lizzy's wit and cynicism is unmatched.
OMG I was just searching for new P&P reactions and here you are haha.. Thank you!
p&p will legit always be my favourite book, i read it at least once a year and every time i find something new to focus on. austen was a master of her craft. and the 2005 film its just UHG the TENSION the DRAMA the EXPERIENCE it was great cinema.
I confess, my favorite couple in the movie was Charlotte and Mr. Collins. I know Mr. Collins is not a popular character but he did nothing more than seek a wife among eligible women. And he has been depicted better in other movies. I thought he was depicted so much better in "Lost in Austen" where he took a vow of celibacy after marrying Jane allowing that marriage to be annulled so she could marry Mr. Bingly. I know that sounds messed up but the movie is about a 21st century girl trading places with Elizabeth. Check it out!
wait you missed the Mrs. Darcy scene
She did not; it's not in the original version.
@Suvi Jii there's 2 versions both are original it's just that the American one is the one with the kiss scene
Loved it! Now you need to react to Pride+Prejudice+Zombies. Oh I'm sorry, did I say zombies?? I ment Z O M B I E S. Lily James killed it as Lizzy the zombie slayer
I thought the idea was dumb, until I saw the trailer. There are definitely major changes, but the chore emotional beats are still there; it’s also beautiful and has swords.
It also makes Mr. Colins and Lady Catharine more palatable, which was a fun take.
So, back in those times, cousins commonly married for a few reasons. First, it kept wealth in one family, as in she would inherit the house along with him, thus keeping her sisters from being literally tossed out on their bums to fend for themselves. Secondly, often times, they were the only people you knew, if you were from a small town, and back then, some people never travelled more than a few miles from home. Thankfully, first cousins marrying, though abhorrent to us, doesn’t usually end up with malformed or otherwise compromised offspring. There are enough random genes to prevent most serious birth defects. It’s only when they inbreed over many generations, and inbreed more closely, that you get things like Hapsburg jaw, and mental illness, etc.
I hate Collins, but, in fairness to the character, I think he was trying to do them a kindness by marrying one of the Bennet girls. If he had married one of the sister, they and their mother could have stayed on at Longbourn after their father passed and Collins inherited. He also wasn't petty towards Elizabeth after she turned him down.
If you liked this, you should deff check out the 5 part BBC mini series Pride and Prejudice with Colin Firth and Elizabeth Ehle. Very close to the book, delicious drama and yes, the beginning scene has the quote from page one of the novel.
This is my favorite movie!!! And your commentary was perfection!! It’s my #1 comfort movie and twilight is my #2 so the references had me dying.
I was so in love with Keira when I was 14( baby gay) I have rented this movie from my local dvd/VHS store every week( I did not have a internet back then). I thought this movie was peak cinema. Then I grew up, choose cultural studies as my main course at the uni. I watched it recetly. I think it is one of the most beautiful love story ever written and this adaptation is masterpice. This movie aged like a fine wine.
Yeah being forced to read a book for school can make it rather unenjoyable until you come back to it voluntarily. One of my favorite books is Silas Marner and my introduction to it was assigned school reading and I hated it. But I came back to it later and now I reread it every couple of years.
Funny enough, Silas Marner was an assigned reading for us but I read and loved it even then. I think it was because it wasn't so god-awfully depressing as a lot of the other assigned readings we had. I haven't read it in a long time, but if I remember correctly I think the way it was written was also a challenge for a lot of people at that age; I joked with my English teacher at the time that I was definitely the only person in our class that actually read the book XD
@32fps my main problem with it was the first 6 chapters because everything before that is *all* setup. The plot doesn't even really kick off until then. It's only once you finish the book that the impact of those first 6 chapters really sinks in.
It's just muscling your way to that point that's a bit of a slog.
Mr Collins was actually Mr Bennett's cousin.The 'Actress' you missed is Dame Judi Dench. Dad didn't die, Lydia ran away with Wickham and Darcy sorted it and made it all, all right, just for Lizzie. I'd suggest you read the book again as an adult. It is one of the funniest ever written when you understand how Jane Austen is really poking fun at and satirising her own society.
When the father dies everything goes to Mr. Collins.
I'm so happy you watched the UK version and not the american version with the extended sappy lovey-dovey ending. I'm all for a feel good rom-com cheesy movie but let's just remember it's jane austen. I'm so happy with how joe wright directed the film.
Exactly this. The ending was PERFECT: the romantic climax was in the field, and the sheer joy of his father was the relieving ending. It did not need that unnecessary happily-ever-after scene. Joe Wright knows how to put poetry on screen.
I do like the cheesy scene but I’m glad I watched it without the added scene first and found out about it years later 😄
obviously people in Jane Austen 's day got lovey -dovey on occasion otherwise you wouldn't be alive today & making comments on RUclips "No sappiness - we're British"
@@sgabig you're assuming I'm british, i am not. I just the like director joe wright's work. He did an excellent job 😊
I’ve seen this movie lots and lots of times.. AND!! I had never noticed Mr Darcy lip quiver when dancing with Elizabeth.. thank you!!
There's something new every time! Last time I watched it, I heard, "this is Mr Darcy's sister," in the background while Elizabeth is transfixed by the bust of Mr Darcy, meant to point out that she misses discovering what Georgiana looks like. Then, when she comes across her playing piano, she makes assumptions because she doesn't know who she is.
I don't know if you have watched atonement, but its really good and Keira knightly is in it as well.
Don't forget James McAvoy who she'll recognize from Penelope. 😘👌
That is the GENIUS of this movie. I did not find Mr Darcy very attractive at the public ball, but, like you, he got more attractive as the movie progressed. So glad you noticed it too!
I seriously have watched this movie more than 20 times since it's release, and EVERY F**KING TIME my reaction is the same as yours LOL. Pride and Prejudice (the book) was indeed the blueprint for the enemies do lovers trope, but Joe Wright's adaptation is just another level: a masterpiece of tension building and pining. THE LOOKS BETWEEN THEM! My favourite Jane Austen adaption ever.
The director deliberately did not cast the pretty boy for Darcy. He wanted someone who was good looking, but had more substance that would make him attractive to the right woman.
3:50 - It's been *years* and, I only just realized this last month, as my dentist's office was playing "Penelope" in their waiting room!
cousins also married to keep the females in their growing up homes as only the eldest male inherited from his family ~ because the bennets only had daughters & so this cousin would inherit their family home ~
if one of the sisters married this cousin then all would be able to enjoy the estate still ~
This is my fave P&P adaptation
elizabeth bennet & mr collins are actually like 3rd or 4th cousins. cousin was a term for any distant relative.
Since you like "Penelopy" and "Pride and Prejudice" I think you would like "Ever After" too.