01:05 Official rules say that the cards can be placed beyond the 9 x 5 space. Frederic Moyersoen confirms this on BGG. Look for "limits on building to the sides?" topic on BGG.
Also discovered that this video is wrong. You can play outside of the grid, and the grid is 9x5, not 8x5 as shown in the vid. 7 cards between start and finish.
he didn't explain the official rules and his grid pattern is incorrect, the rulebook clearly explains it's a 5x9 grid, his is 5x8 and the rules say you can extend beyond the grid... it seems like the value of this is to show how the game is played, he went to all the trouble to make a video and didn't explain the rules in the book.
My Variation: A player can still use path cards if they have a broken item card. But if they have 2 of the 3 types of broken items, they cannot place path cards. If a player has the broken cart, broken lamp and broken pickaxe at once, they must repair at least one of them when their turn comes up. If not, then they are Eliminated for the round. They discard all their cards in hand and cannot gain any more turns and therefore, cannot receive gold regardless of results and roles for this round. That eliminated player must reveal his/her role. If all saboteurs are out of the round because of that, the gold diggers automatically win this round. Repair cards can only be used for yourselves unless someone is about to be eliminated for the round because of having 1 of each type of broken cards (as mentioned above). If all Gold diggers have at least one broken item, the saboteurs can reveal their roles. They won the round! If you are on the winning side, even if you have any broken cards, as long as you don't have all 3 types of broken cards, you still receive gold nuggets for this round.
1. What if a path card is placed between two path goal cards such that it connects both path goals? Do you then reveal both of the cards or just one? 2. What if two of the three path cards are already revealed and they are stones? The game continues and Saboteur hasn't won yet until all cards in the draw pile are used up and there are no playable cards in hand?
1. Yes. Reveal both card, because there are no punishment for reveal stone, the game just continue, if it connect both and there is a gold, the game win for gold digger. 2. Yes like first i answer. The game continue till all path/action deck empty.
Actually the rules aren't that complicated but all the social aspect oof the game, make sure if you a bad guy stay hidden as long as possible , and without telling other , show them on which side you are. Played many time, and had so many suprizes with m friend and even my as appeared evil gf :)
A brilliant game, my students loved it and this video was extremely helpful. If you know other games for large groups (10+ players), please let me know. Keep up your excellent work!
Good enough rule description, though a few comments say you got some of it wrong... But this game just doesn't look fun. It looks like it would overwhelmingly favor the miners because it would be near impossible for the saboteur to sabotage the team without revealing their identity. Your fake teammates will only buy the 'I didn't have a better card' line for so long.
Is there a way for the saboteur to win? People seem to enjoy this game. I want it because it seems to be a non-digital game with an idea similar to Among Us.
My greek version of the game says in the rules that it is possible to go outside of the 9x5 matrix and not only inside of it. What is the right way to play?
Got a question,since everybody knows what our roles during the end of the first round(example Im the saboteur during round 1). does that mean until round 3, they know that im the saboteur?
rules say, when miners win, they get as much gold cards as there's miners not players in total (i.e. no more than one gold card each round) - but they seem to be two versions of the rules and people tend to play what this video say as it's more balanced 🤑
Sharing information isn't the same as talking freely. Sharing would be showing the card to others, which is forbidden. Talking (lying or telling truth) is allowed - nobody else knows if you are honest or not.
Hey! I Loved your video. Let me ask you a question, Here in Brasil the Saboteur is about to arrive, I want to make a Video but I don't have the game yet. Would you allow me to make a new Video over the images of yours? So I can speak in Portuguese on it. I will let a watermark with special thanks all over it, and put the redirection of your channel on the description and post. It will also be placed on my facebook page. Ah, by the way, We are a board game shop in Brasil.
+Lúdica Rogério I do not give you permission to upload my video. You may send me a email with the translation in it and I will add it to the subtitles.
Are you sure about the number of players ? It doesn't seem right, 1 saboteur plus 3 gold diggers is 4 players if I do the math right ? Or I just don't understand some point...
I don't understand your answer either. I thought the number of saboteurs and gold diggers are decided from beginning ? how could we not know how many saboteur we are dealing with.
+Tuan Nguyen The number of gold-diggers and saboteurs needed depends on the number of players. Put the remaining dwarf cards back into the box, they will not be needed for the rest of the game. • 3 players: 1 saboteur and 3 gold-diggers • 4 players: 1 saboteur and 4 gold-diggers • 5 players: 2 saboteurs and 4 gold-diggers • 6 players: 2 saboteurs and 5 gold-diggers • 7 players: 3 saboteurs and 5 gold-diggers • 8 players: 3 saboteurs and 6 gold-diggers • 9 players: 3 saboteurs and 7 gold-diggers • 10 players: all dwarf cards. Put the appropriate numbers of gold-diggers and saboteurs into one deck and shuffle. Each player is dealt one card, which he looks at and puts face down on the table in front of himself without revealing his role to any of the other players. The remaining card is put aside (also face down) until the end of the round.
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I’m drunk af we bout to play this game . I’m in the bathroom learning how 😂😂
hope you enjoyed it
Haha same here! 😅😅
@@babyloniat5883 ditto 💀
How'd it go?
Same baybay
01:05 Official rules say that the cards can be placed beyond the 9 x 5 space. Frederic Moyersoen confirms this on BGG. Look for "limits on building to the sides?" topic on BGG.
But Why?
@@THE_GREMLINZ_OFFICIAL because you can build pathways out and around and come back to the gold
Super helpful, thank you.
Also discovered that this video is wrong. You can play outside of the grid, and the grid is 9x5, not 8x5 as shown in the vid. 7 cards between start and finish.
This was good and clear. Thanks for explaining the game!
I love the way you throw away the cards at 0:27 :D
Guido Fernandez but he threw Them over the edge
@@jorunholm9060 we love it bcs it's funny
It baffles me why anyone would click the thumbs down on this, unless they are just trolling. Thanks for your vids and well done on the editing.
he didn't explain the official rules and his grid pattern is incorrect, the rulebook clearly explains it's a 5x9 grid, his is 5x8 and the rules say you can extend beyond the grid... it seems like the value of this is to show how the game is played, he went to all the trouble to make a video and didn't explain the rules in the book.
4:32 4 Saboteurs = 2 Gold Each.
The rule booklet says specifically that you CAN extend the path beyond the 5 by 9 card pattern made by the setup. What am I missing here?
Evan Schluederberg The video is wrong about this point. You can extend it.
In the online version of the game (on Board Game Arena), you most certainly can.
Maybe this wasn’t allowed in the 2015 version of the game, when this video was released.
i find it funny how he throws them off the table.
the setup must be a 9 by 5 matrix, in this video it is shown as a 8 by 5 pattern, there must be 7 cards between the goal and the start
My Variation:
A player can still use path cards if they have a broken item card. But if they have 2 of the 3 types of broken items, they cannot place path cards. If a player has the broken cart, broken lamp and broken pickaxe at once, they must repair at least one of them when their turn comes up. If not, then they are Eliminated for the round. They discard all their cards in hand and cannot gain any more turns and therefore, cannot receive gold regardless of results and roles for this round. That eliminated player must reveal his/her role. If all saboteurs are out of the round because of that, the gold diggers automatically win this round.
Repair cards can only be used for yourselves unless someone is about to be eliminated for the round because of having 1 of each type of broken cards (as mentioned above). If all Gold diggers have at least one broken item, the saboteurs can reveal their roles. They won the round!
If you are on the winning side, even if you have any broken cards, as long as you don't have all 3 types of broken cards, you still receive gold nuggets for this round.
the rule shouldve been shortest player goes first
love this game. used to play it 15 years ago!
1. What if a path card is placed between two path goal cards such that it connects both path goals? Do you then reveal both of the cards or just one?
2. What if two of the three path cards are already revealed and they are stones? The game continues and Saboteur hasn't won yet until all cards in the draw pile are used up and there are no playable cards in hand?
What was the solution for the first scenario??
1. Yes. Reveal both card, because there are no punishment for reveal stone, the game just continue, if it connect both and there is a gold, the game win for gold digger.
2. Yes like first i answer. The game continue till all path/action deck empty.
Pretty concise. Thanks!
The designs make this game look like something Grandma had forgotten in the corner of the attic covered in cobwebs and old, moldy quilts.
Clear and concise!
1 saboteur is here
Actually the rules aren't that complicated but all the social aspect oof the game, make sure if you a bad guy stay hidden as long as possible , and without telling other , show them on which side you are. Played many time, and had so many suprizes with m friend and even my as appeared evil gf :)
A brilliant game, my students loved it and this video was extremely helpful. If you know other games for large groups (10+ players), please let me know. Keep up your excellent work!
+Flavio Sousa mafia, 4 on a couch, resistance, up and down the creek
Werewolves
Ultimate werewolf
Spyfall 2!
still remember this video vividly
Is this game fun with 3-4 players?
only thing i do not understand..at the end, do you reveal who was saboteur and who was gold digger?
Amazing channel! Watching all games here now!
Good enough rule description, though a few comments say you got some of it wrong... But this game just doesn't look fun. It looks like it would overwhelmingly favor the miners because it would be near impossible for the saboteur to sabotage the team without revealing their identity. Your fake teammates will only buy the 'I didn't have a better card' line for so long.
Is there a way for the saboteur to win? People seem to enjoy this game. I want it because it seems to be a non-digital game with an idea similar to Among Us.
The rock fall card can remove ANY card from the tunnel or the last card played?
+Dan Dănuț Any card from the tunnel.
Nice tutorial. Thx for posting
Yes! My favorite game!
yeah this game right is just astronomical & criminally underrated tho
1 question, when an broken tool card is played in front of the player, can they still play action cards to other players
Yes they can
My greek version of the game says in the rules that it is possible to go outside of the 9x5 matrix and not only inside of it.
What is the right way to play?
What happens if a saboteur reaches gold?
Radu Alexandru sabotour should not let gold diggers to reach a gold. If sabotour will reach gold that means gold diggers got victory :)
00:58 As you say : 7 cards between the ladder and the row of goals. But you dealt only 6, which makes an 8 x 5 space instead of a 9 x 5 space.
Got a question,since everybody knows what our roles during the end of the first round(example Im the saboteur during round 1). does that mean until round 3, they know that im the saboteur?
since we have 3 rounds right? cause we exposed our roles in the first round
@@Kobzilla_Gaming I think that you get new roles each round
Can a player use action cards to repair his own broken tools?
Can the diggers see the gold nuggets cards when they are choosing?
Yes, starting with the one who made it first, then the cards are distributed in a clockwise manner by the players' choosing.
0:27: the identity cards go "WEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!"
rules say, when miners win, they get as much gold cards as there's miners not players in total (i.e. no more than one gold card each round) - but they seem to be two versions of the rules and people tend to play what this video say as it's more balanced 🤑
you didn't do the grid right... it's supposed to be a 5X9 grid, and you CAN play outside the 5X9 grid
My hungarian rule book says u musn't share the information about the goal card u checked.
Sharing information isn't the same as talking freely. Sharing would be showing the card to others, which is forbidden. Talking (lying or telling truth) is allowed - nobody else knows if you are honest or not.
Thank you!
I am confused. Did you say 3 player play with 1 saboteur and 3 gold digger? that's 4 players right?. I never played this game please help
Yes he said that.
Yeah. Then you pass out the cards and there's one extra. That way there's always one card that you don't know what it is
It adds the possibility of the saboteur isn't in play. But the gold-diggers in that round won't know that the saboteur is out.
Good explanation
Perfect game for revenge on what happened ten years ago
Please correct the mistakes of the video
0:27 the cards are falling of the table.
Love ur videos. Can you do for Saboteur 2 as well?
I would like to, however my current post production pipeline is full. Hopefully I will get enough subscribers and support to keep the videos coming.
very nice
This sounds more complicated than I thought 🙈
took me 15 minutes to get through 1st minute :D but setup is always the hardest
Wait… do 4 saboteurs get 4 gold each or 2?
rules say 2
Returning to these older videos, he sounds much less enthusiastic now.
Hey!
I Loved your video.
Let me ask you a question,
Here in Brasil the Saboteur is about to arrive, I want to make a Video but I don't have the game yet.
Would you allow me to make a new Video over the images of yours? So I can speak in Portuguese on it.
I will let a watermark with special thanks all over it, and put the redirection of your channel on the description and post.
It will also be placed on my facebook page.
Ah, by the way, We are a board game shop in Brasil.
+Lúdica Rogério I do not give you permission to upload my video. You may send me a email with the translation in it and I will add it to the subtitles.
Among Us before its cool
Super fun game
Are you sure about the number of players ? It doesn't seem right, 1 saboteur plus 3 gold diggers is 4 players if I do the math right ? Or I just don't understand some point...
One of the saboteurs isn't used each time so you never know how many saboteurs you're playing with.
I don't understand your answer either. I thought the number of saboteurs and gold diggers are decided from beginning ? how could we not know how many saboteur we are dealing with.
+Tuan Nguyen
The number of gold-diggers and saboteurs needed depends on the number of players. Put the remaining dwarf cards back into the box, they will not be needed for the rest of the game.
• 3 players: 1 saboteur and 3 gold-diggers
• 4 players: 1 saboteur and 4 gold-diggers
• 5 players: 2 saboteurs and 4 gold-diggers
• 6 players: 2 saboteurs and 5 gold-diggers
• 7 players: 3 saboteurs and 5 gold-diggers
• 8 players: 3 saboteurs and 6 gold-diggers
• 9 players: 3 saboteurs and 7 gold-diggers
• 10 players: all dwarf cards.
Put the appropriate numbers of gold-diggers and saboteurs into one deck and shuffle. Each player is dealt one card, which he looks at and puts face down on the table in front of himself without revealing his role to any of the other players. The remaining card is put aside (also face down) until the end of the round.
OK I think I got it, thank you for your answer and the video ...
Triple S Games so in some games no one is the sabotuer?
ITS SO CONFUSING AHHHH
The cards are being like u did not put them
Being a saboteur is not fun in this. Once you do a evil thing you a stun locked for the remaining of the match...
its complicatedddddd
It is not. The video does not explain well.
Its one of the easyest board games i played. Today i will play it with friends. Explain the rules takes me usually 5 minutes. ;)
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Ah commie dwarfs and a capitalist spy, my favorite game.