thank you for this review, from what I hear Clarity and Acon works very well for extreme treatments, I have Rx personally and I find that it works well for weak treatments, I try to do the job by doing good taken and RX comes to correct what remains, it works well like that I find and it does not deteriorate the original voice much. If it is for recordings recorded in very poor conditions; RX and Acon are better without a doubt.
c-vox room mode is actually pretty good for podcast-style cases when mic is close to some table, it removes or reduces the boxiness of the sound. it reduces the character of the room, not the reverb
My first remark (I'm not an expert): I think I'd prefer a test sample that is not fabricated with a reverb plugin, but a real, acoustically recorded sample. I knew some YT-video with bad/annoying reverb, downloaded they sound and use that for testing. Now you might test removing with an algorithm something that has been added with an algorithm. For he time being, not skilled enough probably, the results for the plugins I used are very poor.
Since you added reverb to your recording it would be nice to listen to the difference between original signal without reverb and the dereverberated signal when phase is switched.
Hello Paweł, Waves is the winner, but it's Waves so I will not consider it. Acon Digital is the winner for me and I actually preferred it in the second test. Izotope's De-reverb is actually awful in comparison and it mirrors my experience. I REALLY don't like RX de-reverb.. C-VOX is something I use to push my noise floor down for extra clean voice overs, I've found it to be completely ineffective for dealing with the room when attempting to correct other people's audio. Often times I end up using Soothe2 for suppressing resonances in the low/low mids as I don't deal with many reverberant rooms, just rooms that don't have enough thick treatment. If you have access to an Apple Silicon Mac, you might want to take a look at Hush. It's a noise reduction/room reduction app that uses the Neural Engine on the Apple M1/M2 to reconstruct the dialogue and I've found it works really well at removing noise and suppressing resonances. I haven't had the chance to observe its effects on excessively reverberant audio.
Waves clarity sounds like you applied a noise remover that made your voice sound digital, it works for reverb removal but I don't like the sound it gives. Unveil from Zynaptiq gives great results too, proximity EQ from sonible too, although it can be subtle, it's great for giving back energy to a vocal that was very wet.
RX derevberate is good when you only use the sliders up to like 3. In other words it falls apart fast, but it does okay when just touching it a tint bit. It's not great :p
Need a de-esser with example two. Someone was saying they got really transparent results with a couple passes, each using less reduction and a little Soothe 2 in the middle.
i like the Acon best on both examples. The Waves Vx series seems very good and most certainly they are sounding good, both this new one and the clarity thingy seems easy to use and are cheap to buy (but I very much agree on your views on Waves policy). Izotope I dumped years ago as I never felt they gave good value for money, and I did think for years they are a overhyped company, now with the buy up from Soundwide it seem they really showing their true colors even more clearly pumping out products that are very similar, but labeled to seem different. I tried their software again last year as the hype was building with the new "assistant" doing all the work and I was not impressed
Just bought Clarity vx Dereverb, and not really happy with the results. It makes sibilances much harsher. It makes my de-esser on this particular vocal I'm using it work 1.3 dB harder than without (36% difference)
Accent deroom works really well with poor source audio. Your microphone is good with nice reverb, most real cases are bad room and bad mic so they all have artefacts but this one is the least offensive with cheap mics.
Waves jego cena myśle że reprezentuje wartość ich firmy tanio a jednak bardzo dobrze i to mi niejednokrotnie wystarcza tym bardziej iż w elektronice nie zawsze szukasz chirurgicznej czystości. Mam ich pluginy używam polecam jak ktoś zapyta oraz jak każdy mam też wiele innych brandów. Cieszę sję z tego filmu bo pokazuje przekrój branży…… każdy znajdzie coś na co chce wydać pieniądze oraz każdy znajdzie coś czego należy się wystrzegać jak brak dezertyfikacji źródeł energii
Eeexactly! Also, when you want to recover lost licenses (e.g. due to USB device, PC failure) more than once a year - you'll pay for the new update plan. How sweet is that :)
Hello! What do you think about my test and the results? Do you have your favourite? Bought it already? Planning to do so? Lemme know down below!
thank you for this review, from what I hear Clarity and Acon works very well for extreme treatments, I have Rx personally and I find that it works well for weak treatments, I try to do the job by doing good taken and RX comes to correct what remains, it works well like that I find and it does not deteriorate the original voice much. If it is for recordings recorded in very poor conditions; RX and Acon are better without a doubt.
c-vox room mode is actually pretty good for podcast-style cases when mic is close to some table, it removes or reduces the boxiness of the sound. it reduces the character of the room, not the reverb
Good to know, thanks!
My first remark (I'm not an expert): I think I'd prefer a test sample that is not fabricated with a reverb plugin, but a real, acoustically recorded sample. I knew some YT-video with bad/annoying reverb, downloaded they sound and use that for testing. Now you might test removing with an algorithm something that has been added with an algorithm. For he time being, not skilled enough probably, the results for the plugins I used are very poor.
很好的比較!最後我選擇Waves❤
Since you added reverb to your recording it would be nice to listen to the difference between original signal without reverb and the dereverberated signal when phase is switched.
Yep, listening to delta would be cool, I'll remember about it next time!
very informative and a wonderful video my friend
Thanks, James!
Hello Paweł, Waves is the winner, but it's Waves so I will not consider it. Acon Digital is the winner for me and I actually preferred it in the second test. Izotope's De-reverb is actually awful in comparison and it mirrors my experience. I REALLY don't like RX de-reverb.. C-VOX is something I use to push my noise floor down for extra clean voice overs, I've found it to be completely ineffective for dealing with the room when attempting to correct other people's audio. Often times I end up using Soothe2 for suppressing resonances in the low/low mids as I don't deal with many reverberant rooms, just rooms that don't have enough thick treatment.
If you have access to an Apple Silicon Mac, you might want to take a look at Hush. It's a noise reduction/room reduction app that uses the Neural Engine on the Apple M1/M2 to reconstruct the dialogue and I've found it works really well at removing noise and suppressing resonances. I haven't had the chance to observe its effects on excessively reverberant audio.
Thanks, Mark! I'm actually a PC, but thanks for this insight, good to know!
Waves clarity sounds like you applied a noise remover that made your voice sound digital, it works for reverb removal but I don't like the sound it gives. Unveil from Zynaptiq gives great results too, proximity EQ from sonible too, although it can be subtle, it's great for giving back energy to a vocal that was very wet.
RX derevberate is good when you only use the sliders up to like 3. In other words it falls apart fast, but it does okay when just touching it a tint bit. It's not great :p
Need a de-esser with example two. Someone was saying they got really transparent results with a couple passes, each using less reduction and a little Soothe 2 in the middle.
Great wrap up. No wup with Acon
Thanks!
you nailed it again . please make some nuendo tutorial . there are so rare on youtube
Thanks, I will one day!
i like the Acon best on both examples. The Waves Vx series seems very good and most certainly they are sounding good, both this new one and the clarity thingy seems easy to use and are cheap to buy (but I very much agree on your views on Waves policy). Izotope I dumped years ago as I never felt they gave good value for money, and I did think for years they are a overhyped company, now with the buy up from Soundwide it seem they really showing their true colors even more clearly pumping out products that are very similar, but labeled to seem different. I tried their software again last year as the hype was building with the new "assistant" doing all the work and I was not impressed
Soundwide is definitely looking for trouble. iZotope lost its all innovative potential. Acon looks very promising though!
The rx10 sounds like you're running that sample through the lowest quality mp3 possible 🤣
Yep, can't disagree here...
I think c-vox dereverb targeting toward low revereberations not for all kind of reverbs
which happened on small/ not ideal booths
C-Vox dereverb works bad on anything. I checked on that, I'm sorry to say this :(
Just bought Clarity vx Dereverb, and not really happy with the results. It makes sibilances much harsher. It makes my de-esser on this particular vocal I'm using it work 1.3 dB harder than without (36% difference)
Did you try Acon?
No, but I ended up getting Supertone Clear which removed the reverb just as well without the nasty harshness :)@@FoliaSound
Accent deroom works really well with poor source audio. Your microphone is good with nice reverb, most real cases are bad room and bad mic so they all have artefacts but this one is the least offensive with cheap mics.
Good to know, thx!
What about goyo voice separator? It's free at the moment.
Goyo is more like main Clarity VX or Acon Extract:Dialogue. It doesn't belong to a group of dereverberators strictly.
Not free anymore, as I understood. Changed their name and now is paid.
Waves jego cena myśle że reprezentuje wartość ich firmy tanio a jednak bardzo dobrze i to mi niejednokrotnie wystarcza tym bardziej iż w elektronice nie zawsze szukasz chirurgicznej czystości. Mam ich pluginy używam polecam jak ktoś zapyta oraz jak każdy mam też wiele innych brandów. Cieszę sję z tego filmu bo pokazuje przekrój branży…… każdy znajdzie coś na co chce wydać pieniądze oraz każdy znajdzie coś czego należy się wystrzegać jak brak dezertyfikacji źródeł energii
Dobrze powiedziane. Dzięki!
waves is cheap but you are gonna pay for the updates with time like all their plugins
Eeexactly! Also, when you want to recover lost licenses (e.g. due to USB device, PC failure) more than once a year - you'll pay for the new update plan. How sweet is that :)
iZOTOPE'S solution its a joke