What Happened to America's Gilded Age Families | J.P. Morgan

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  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024

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  • @webwarren
    @webwarren Год назад +8

    Sometimes, Old Money tries to stay inconspicuous. They may still have money, but act quietly behind the scenes.

    • @ericalbany
      @ericalbany Год назад

      They don't go building massive castles on 5th avenue.

    • @cynthiaclark8050
      @cynthiaclark8050 Год назад +1

      @@ericalbany No, that was for the first generation. The rest eschewed publicity as most "Old Guard" still do. There is still a contingent for whom privacy is prized...as opposed to becoming social media stars.

  • @pamelahomeyer748
    @pamelahomeyer748 Год назад +3

    I was an underwriter at Etna in 1990 when Aetna fire was bought out by Travelers

  • @ellaw356
    @ellaw356 Год назад +10

    JP was worth a lot more than on paper. He was evil but brilliant. While studying American Economics I found that he had his hands in everything and made sure that his kids didn’t have to pay taxes on much of his wealth. Also the Federal Reserve had a lot to do with Morgan money. He created situations that he would benefit from.

    • @ConstructiveMinds100
      @ConstructiveMinds100 Год назад

      You are right. He was extraordinary man. We should bring back hard core slavery.

  • @TheresaCassler
    @TheresaCassler 2 года назад +3

    So glad for your channel. I accidenty came across it. Have always been interested in this period of time and the clothes. :)

  • @LJB103
    @LJB103 Год назад +10

    Plymouth (the Pilgrims) was Plymouth Colony - Boston (the Puritans) was the Massachusetts Bay Colony. Yes, both are now part of MA, but were separate colonies back then. It seems that the real impetus behind J. Pierpont Morgan (and pretty much his father) was their partnership with Philadelphia banker Anthony J. Drexel who was the head of the firm Drexel, Morgan & Co. until his 1893 death when Morgan took over.(note: one of his descendants married John Jacob Astor IV's only grandchild). How astronomically wealthy was J Pierpont Morgan? When his estate size of $80 Million was revealed, Andrew Carnegie was reputed to have quipped: "And all this time we thought he was rich." He also had a bad investment that almost killed him: Int'l Mercantile Marine which owned the White Star Line. Morgan was booked on the maiden voyage of its new ship Titanic, but cancelled at the last minute (as did Alfred Gwynne Vanderbilt). The Glass-Steagall Act split commercial banking (J.P. Morgan & Co) from investment banking (Morgan-Stanley).

    • @cynthiaclark8050
      @cynthiaclark8050 Год назад +1

      I'll disagree here in that Morgan was a major shareholder of the White Star Line, who built the 3 super liners Brittanic, Olympic and Titanic. The Olympic was launched first and had a serious accident that... while still serviceable...Lloyd's of London wouldn't cover any future claims on her. Proof is now coming out that it was the Olympic that was relaunched as the Titanic, aboard which J.P invited all his peers (Benjamin Guggenheim, Isadore Strauss, John Jacob Astor, Harry Widener and more) whom objected to the forming of the Fed, then claimed a last minute "emergency" ...debarking before she sailed. Capt. Smith has been scrutinized to the point that many modern experts state he deliberately operated with intent to sink her. Barely 48 hours later after she sank... the Federal Reserve was formed... there are no coincidences.

  • @webbmechannel5235
    @webbmechannel5235 2 года назад +8

    Fantastic video. well spoken direct and to the point. Loved learning about JP Morgan being shot twice after someone broke into his mansion and that he recovered.

  • @wesalexander2693
    @wesalexander2693 Год назад +1

    A fascinating expose into a very interesting American family. I love these videos, they go a long way in explaining how we have gotten to where we are as a nation. Very well done, Adelaide, thank you.

  • @lindajohnsonkaplan647
    @lindajohnsonkaplan647 Год назад +3

    “The House of Morgan” by Ron Chernow is a great book. Chernow is an incredible biographer with careful attention to detail. He’s also the author of Alexander Hamilton, which Lin Manuel Miranda read during a vacation and prompted him to write Hamilton the musical. Chernow’s books are THAT good.

  • @reneedailey1696
    @reneedailey1696 2 года назад +3

    Oh I have MISSED this series!!

  • @maryroyal5138
    @maryroyal5138 2 года назад +5

    Your content gets more interesting every time you post.

  • @martyfrazer5312
    @martyfrazer5312 Год назад +1

    I have thoroughly enjoyed your Gilded Age videos. Please don't stop.

  • @creativian68
    @creativian68 Год назад +3

    At the olympics in Helsinki Morgan was one of six crew members. The others were Herman Whiton, Emelyn Whiton, Julian Roosevelt, Eric Ridder and Everard Endt. The yacht was called Llanoria.

  • @nomadpi1
    @nomadpi1 Год назад +1

    Your field of study is very interesting to any student of American History, or economic history. It's always pertinent to know where the money goes, no matter the era. A critique, no excuses or digression. Just get to the subject, and "boring" may depend upon the listener. I, for one, read a lot of history, and am ready, able, and willing to hear the mundane. You see, you never know when associative thinking will occur, and the "furniture" that floats around inside the brain can suddenly find a place to sit or connect. Thanks for your presentations.

  • @princekrazie
    @princekrazie 2 года назад +7

    NIKOLA Tesla was the forunner of the Imperial Webway project

    • @cynthiaclark8050
      @cynthiaclark8050 Год назад

      Unlike his competitors Edison and Westinghouse, he wanted to give away his inventions to the world...which made him a bad investment to robber barons like J.P! Much more on Tesla will soon be disclosed.

  • @michaelplunkett8059
    @michaelplunkett8059 Год назад +3

    What he did was use his moral and business authority to persuade a banking consortium to provide credit when the panic of 1907 had a caused a credit shortage that froze the market.
    Best line goes to John D Rockefeller - on seeing Morgan's estate probate - "and to think, he wasn't a wealthy man".

  • @JeffreySchieding
    @JeffreySchieding 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for this excellent presentation.

  • @jamesthurber4730
    @jamesthurber4730 Год назад +27

    Have you considered that the family history may be "scrubbed" in order to protect their privacy? Certainly they could afford to do so.

    • @hyacinthlynch843
      @hyacinthlynch843 Год назад +9

      Exactly. I was thinking the same thing.

    • @EndingSimple
      @EndingSimple Год назад

      I have a suspicion that there are extremely wealthy people from way back who are wealthy enough to afford having their existence completely removed from detection and history. I"m thinking about how Howard Hughs was able to eventually afford a 'secrecy machine' that kept him completely out of the public eye for the other half of his life. That turned against him when he become truly mentally ill. If no one knows about you, anything can happen to you and no one would know. This privacy thing is a double edged sword. Then there's Andrew Carnegie. He donated a lot of money to found a lot of libraries all over the world. But that seems to have been an attempt to dry up the market for books that were critical of him, because libraries are the main customers for new books. The libraries he brought into existence would not bite the hand that gave them life. And thus he made sure that his version of his life would be the one that prevailed.

    • @cynthiaclark8050
      @cynthiaclark8050 Год назад +1

      I believe it is John Adam Morgan who currently reside on a private island off Stamford CT. Not quite certain if he was the one who had a brief lack of judgement marrying Sonia of Housewives of NYC fame.

    • @cynthiaclark8050
      @cynthiaclark8050 Год назад

      @@chipcook5346 True, and a well managed trust of a mere 15-20M can give you a pleasant lifestyle out of view.

    • @mcdowelltorres
      @mcdowelltorres Год назад

      @@cynthiaclark8050 He was the one. lol

  • @beautyforumbyangela
    @beautyforumbyangela Год назад +2

    Great videos. I love the history lessons with your unique style. I do hope you cover the other families. Perhaps, you could show the audience a 400 wealthy families timeline. Thank you 😊. Cheers 😉🌹

    • @droses7018
      @droses7018 Год назад

      She knows nothing of history. Sorry
      New York Times, Oct. 26, 1907, noted in connection with J.P. Morgan's actions during the Panic of 1907, "In conversation with the New York Times correspondent, Lord Rothschild paid a high tribute to J. P. Morgan for his efforts in the present financial juncture in New York. 'He is worthy of his reputation as a great financier and a man of wonders. His latest action fills one with admiration and respect for him.'"
      This is the only recorded instance when a Rothschild praised any banker outside of his own family.
      Do your research

  • @shaunpaul8068
    @shaunpaul8068 Год назад +4

    When is your next one? Don't stop now there's soooooooo many gilded age families to chose from not only the famous more well known ones keep it going 😊

    • @AdelaideBeemanWhite
      @AdelaideBeemanWhite  Год назад +3

      Early May. DuPont.

    • @shaunpaul8068
      @shaunpaul8068 Год назад +3

      @@AdelaideBeemanWhite should think about doing a mini series on the more unknown named dollar princesses that married lesser titles be good too 😀

  • @gafls3151
    @gafls3151 2 года назад +15

    As a family historian, I can well imagine what you waded through to compose these bios. Kudos for your research. I love love this stuff!
    I think it's important people understand the history around the fashion that you present. It helps people get a sense of what the world was like for someone inhabiting those clothes. Thank you. 🙂

  • @lisaweinmann9245
    @lisaweinmann9245 2 года назад +3

    Love your channel!!

  • @shalmalikulkarni4617
    @shalmalikulkarni4617 Год назад +1

    can you do a video on olerichs family of guilded age

  • @denisesayer9225
    @denisesayer9225 Год назад +1

    You might be interested in the competition between Carnegie, Morgan, and Rockefeller.

  • @creativian68
    @creativian68 Год назад +1

    Wow! This is so educational. I live in a country which takes great pride in the education system. I know of the London fire, but I have never heard of the New York fire.

  • @dr.debbiewilliams
    @dr.debbiewilliams 11 месяцев назад +1

    I have absolutely no idea.

  • @PtolemyJones
    @PtolemyJones Год назад +3

    Hope she get to the DuPont family soon, they fell far and hard.

  • @pcs913
    @pcs913 Год назад +1

    Instead of squandered, you might have used dissipated.

  • @allon33
    @allon33 2 года назад +3

    Wonderful information.

  • @pamelahomeyer748
    @pamelahomeyer748 Год назад +1

    Three reasons why Aetna wound up being bought out include the two times that it build-out Geico and the fact that Michael Milken with his art Investments for the Aetna went bust

  • @jacquelinearcher1158
    @jacquelinearcher1158 Год назад +1

    Do you have published wills in the USA?we 🇬🇧 can find what people left when they died which gives a good guide..to worth..

  • @saristeier6658
    @saristeier6658 Год назад +4

    The Morgan who had three children and was in the Olympics was married to Sonja Morgan Real House wives of New York. I am not sure how much money he has left. He has expensivie divorces. He had a house in connecticut he was trying to sell. He claims he has no money left.

    • @LlyleHunter
      @LlyleHunter Год назад

      I’ve never understood wealthy people who take up divorce as a hobby.

    • @cynthiaclark8050
      @cynthiaclark8050 Год назад

      Ah, that must be the place on the island off Stamford. His brother...a symphonic conductor and gay....passed a few years back.

    • @cynthiaclark8050
      @cynthiaclark8050 Год назад

      @@LlyleHunter Too impulsive!

  • @EndingSimple
    @EndingSimple Год назад +1

    I heard that the thing JP Morgan really did for the country was be the Federal Reserve System before we had a Federal Reserve System. That meant he had a lot o power, but it also meant we didn't have a depression we could have had.

  • @colleenbrown3366
    @colleenbrown3366 Год назад +1

    The wealthy of today should view the Morgan's story as a cautionary tale...they won't but they should. Great content!

  • @zuzannahanna
    @zuzannahanna 2 года назад +6

    I'm wondering if those "average joes" of the family know the wealthy lasting son 🤔 Interesting material, thank you Ade!

  • @cazyaz523
    @cazyaz523 Год назад +2

    John Adams Morgan (born 1930) is known for being married to Sonja Morgan for a few years. Their daughter is Quincy Adams Morgan. Sonja Morgan was his fourth wife of five wives. He married again (around 2010 I think ).
    Just a useless bit of trivia.

    • @cynthiaclark8050
      @cynthiaclark8050 Год назад

      Jeez, didn't realize it was 5 to date!

    • @cazyaz523
      @cazyaz523 Год назад

      @@cynthiaclark8050 he likes wedding cake.

  • @phillipvan7740
    @phillipvan7740 Год назад +1

    Would have been nice to hear about Anne Morgan...

  • @pattyanne9982
    @pattyanne9982 Год назад +2

    Just found your channel, you, my dear are quite charming. Greetings from Frankfort Indiana ❤

  • @1957es
    @1957es Год назад +1

    I might be wrong but I believe Quincy Adams Morgan might be the daughter of infamous Real Housewife of NY Sonja Morgan. I thought the ex pled poverty at some point and couldn’t support the child the way that was decreed in the divorce agreement so maybe he was pleading poverty to punish a very naughty ex-wife. ( Watch the old shows and you’ll see. I don’t think she’s on anymore. ) There was also a Radziwill on during these years although she was much more reputable.

  • @dr.debbiewilliams
    @dr.debbiewilliams Год назад +1

    Jerry didn't give me any money. I don't know.

  • @hardikmishra6963
    @hardikmishra6963 9 месяцев назад +1

    He made the FED, so who is incharge of that now?

  • @sheleavitt06
    @sheleavitt06 Год назад

    We have a family legend about JP Morgan (not sure which one but probably it was Jr or his son III since my Grandma was a little girl when this happened) stopping at our family fruit stand while on vacation with his family seeing Zion National Park. As I recall Grandma said he bought two melons. One for the children to share. The second one he gave to his wife and he either eat a half or a quarter of that one (my memory is hazy to the details there) but my Grandma who was a little girl at the time was amazed that was all he bought and what he did with it and just thought “so that’s how he got so rich”😮 😂😂😂 Her little girl impression was also that he seemed really normal buying fruit on a hot day and that he was a nice daddy and husband.

  • @syedmazharhasan6803
    @syedmazharhasan6803 2 года назад +5

    Yay! Another history lesson 🥰🥰🥰

  • @annarowden9457
    @annarowden9457 Год назад

    Most of the old money are set up in trusts. I know of couple of families that dont receive their money until they reach 30 years of age. Plus, they must have a job or a stay at home parent with children. There is an overseer who make sure the rules are being obey. They also have the ability to cut you off from the trust. I know one overseer, who comes unannounced for a visit.

  • @TheresaCassler
    @TheresaCassler 2 года назад +1

    I love your earrings and period jewerly. :)

  • @TheMoonwalker101
    @TheMoonwalker101 Год назад +1

    I loved Sonja Morgan on Real Housewives of New York 🤣

  • @TomJosephi
    @TomJosephi Год назад +1

    i enjoy your videos and I hope you do more of them. J/P/

    • @cynthiaclark8050
      @cynthiaclark8050 Год назад

      Anne built a farm/estate called "Uplands Farm" near me in Cold Spring Harbor NY, the farm is now with the Nature Conservancy and the house ...with an addition...is currently on the market.

  • @stephenperretti8847
    @stephenperretti8847 Год назад +1

    JP Morgan had a terribly disfigured nose. It was never depicted in any portraits of him, and is only visible in photographs.

  • @oleeb
    @oleeb Год назад +1

    Your assumption that not being able to find the net worth of some of the Morgan descendants is specious. On the contrary, you can probably assume the descendants remain wealthy albeit not super rich.

    • @AdelaideBeemanWhite
      @AdelaideBeemanWhite  Год назад +2

      I suppose it depends on what one means by wealth. I’m sure that they are richer than I will ever be, but compared to their 19th century counterparts. . .

  • @Kian2002
    @Kian2002 Год назад +1

    Your diction and pronunciation is excellent, such that I can barely hear your American accent.

  • @jec1ny
    @jec1ny Год назад +1

    Generally, your "old money" types keep a low profile and do not advertise their wealth.

  • @marycahill546
    @marycahill546 Год назад +2

    People want the right to create wealth and pass it on to their heirs. Often it's a wasted effort if the grand children or great children fritter the wealth away. I think a good education and teaching an ethic of honesty and hard work and fair dealing would be a more sure legacy to leave.

    • @cynthiaclark8050
      @cynthiaclark8050 Год назад

      Yes, an excellent example of good generational wealth management is the Phipps family. Some individuals will do better than others...as in any family...but either by iron-clad trusts, education or both...the family overall has retained wealth.

  • @ML-yr9nr
    @ML-yr9nr Год назад +2

    Sonya Morgan….

  • @katwitanruna
    @katwitanruna 2 года назад +2

    Whoot Whoot!

  • @howardjohnson2138
    @howardjohnson2138 Год назад

    I'm fond of the decadence part.

  • @jackiejames4551
    @jackiejames4551 2 года назад +7

    I vote for Rothschild

  • @dougclem7711
    @dougclem7711 Год назад +1

    THEY GOT RICH BY SCREWING THE WORKING FAMILIES, THINKING THEY HAD THIS GOD GIVEN TALENT GOT OLD CLOSER TO DEATH AND STARTED TRYING TO BUY THEIR WAY INTO HEAVEN. THE LIBRARIES, WILDLIFE RESERVES, ETC. DID IT WORK?

    • @cynthiaclark8050
      @cynthiaclark8050 Год назад

      Ok, no need to scream! And FYI, many of their descendants went heavy on philanthropy to assuage their guilt...so....

  • @crystalbluepersuasion1027
    @crystalbluepersuasion1027 Год назад +2

    Maybe the family members are living under the radar with trust fund money. In this day and age it’s safer not to flaunt one’s wealth and to remain “unknown” if you want to enjoy your good fortune with privacy.

    • @cynthiaclark8050
      @cynthiaclark8050 Год назад +1

      Especially nowadays! Who wants target on their back???

  • @StephenFletcher-e4u
    @StephenFletcher-e4u Год назад

    they rich heard of morgan and stanley. lol.

  • @darrylgraves4663
    @darrylgraves4663 Год назад

    Birds of a feather ,,, flock together and the rich have saved society many times!!! Remember if it wasn’t for a VERY WEALTHY JEWISH MAN!!! AMERICA would have NEVER EXISTED!!

  • @allon33
    @allon33 2 года назад +10

    Do the Rothschild clan, yet be careful.

    • @baylorsailor
      @baylorsailor Год назад +3

      But they're more ancient family than gilded age family. Which is why they have so much unbridled power.

    • @HattieMcDanielonaMoon
      @HattieMcDanielonaMoon Год назад +2

      VERY shady family

    • @cynthiaclark8050
      @cynthiaclark8050 Год назад +1

      @@HattieMcDanielonaMoon They've recently had their wings clipped...virtually all their massive RE holdings have been liquidated in the last few years...and it wasn't their choosing!

  • @SecurityHawk12
    @SecurityHawk12 Год назад +2

    Egads....

  • @dorotaboksza-bedka4597
    @dorotaboksza-bedka4597 Год назад +1

    ♥️

  • @ypey1
    @ypey1 Год назад +1

    Its a common moral trap to believe that giving wealth away is a virtue, it is not. It is a zero sum, one time game (stealing has these same characteristics) and any idiot can do it. Creating wealth is the true virtue where many more people profit for continuing amounts of time.

  • @mcdowelltorres
    @mcdowelltorres Год назад +1

    John Adams Morgan was married to Real Housewives Gin-soaked Sonja Morgan. lol en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Adams_Morgan