I think that's the problem, when the Toa Inika became the Toa Mahri, there was a clear explanation for their change in powers and appearances, even the masks were changed for different ones, but the masks and powers of the Toa "Phantoka/Mistika" are still the same, so they should have followed the design lines of the original Toa Nuva.
@@neitherlink6612 but these are new masks with the power of adaptation in addition to what they had before, so they are different. I guess they could have kept the original looks some more but there is a reason that they are different.
The Toa Nuva were only popular in 2002 because of their silver armour. The organic look of their masks was a major turn off for most purchasers. Contrast that with Phantoka Pohatu and his perfect mask adaptation from Mata Pohatu's mask, or here with Onua's adaption of his original mask shape. Neither Gali nor Tahu match either of their first two forms, Lewa is at least well representative of a Toa of Air, and Kopaka has always looked pretty much the same. Now, downsides of the Phantoka/Mistika builds are the same as with any Inika build, but I kinda like Inika builds to be honest.
Dylan Wight I can see how Phantoka Pohatu’s mask better resembles his original form’s (It’s wider at the bottom and narrower at the top), but I really don’t see any resemblances between Onua Mistika’s mask and his original’s (to me, the Mistika mask looks far less humanoid than Onua’s original)
I think if I ever get this Gali I’ll definitely replace her mask with One of the G2 masks and I’d Swap the hunchback with Onua Otherwise I think these are good sets. I can personally see the continuation from the original Hau and the adaptive Hau
I honestly think Gali Mistika is the best Gali there has ever been.. At least with Gen 1 as I've never owned any G2 Gali figures. I like the Mata Gali quite a bit but then I dislike Gali Nuva 2002.. She's so Ugly!! Same for Lewa Nuva 2002.. Just eye sores.. Onewa is okay, Kopaka isn't that bad and then Pohatu and Tahu are the only Toa Nuva that I think look really good, but the Mata looked better for all of them.. Especially Lewa and Gali.. But yeah I like Gali Mistika more than Nuva and around the same as Mata, Mistika Gali looks so cool! I love all of the Tahu's to ever be released, all of them are awesome to me so I can't really say I like Mistika Tahu more or less than any of the others.. 🤔 I don't know.. But I love it. Onua Mistika again I like waayy more than Onua Nuva, but I like Mata more.
I always really liked Tahu's Mistika design. Onua and Gali looked dreadful, but Tahu's design always spoke to me. On a side note, I really want to know which set designer thought making Gali a hunchback with massive shoulders and Onua a lanky twig was a good idea.
It's more like someone accidentally colored Gali set black, and onua set blue. Even the masks fit the other toa better, adaptive pakari is passably feminine, and adaptive kaukau has the manly jawline that fits toa of earth.
To be fair, Gali was always a broadshouldered set, something the mask of light movie bizzarly avoided, but the head structure her absolutely is off and it feels like they swapped her and Onua's head spaces
At 2008 I was long grown out of playing with Bionicle and was lamenting how the new sets did not match the atmosphere of early bionicle and how "things used to be better in my days" >_
Meh I got all of the Mistika toa and I actually liked them, sure they don't really follow the old designs but I do feel like that fit the aim and style of the story at the time. So I enjoyed them
I'm personally indifferent about the Mistika. I see the flaws however when I got them in '08, I was just happy for Tahu, Gali, and Onua to be back in the gen 1 story after 4 years of absence. Also Waffle Eye.
why can;t people understand.... those are adaptive armors! they are meant to be armors that addapt to the enviorment in order to be able to fight properly , i can;t believe people bash the 2008 toa for being so different from their prior form , when it;s intentionally done so that they could fight under these circumstances...
+AxelBro I have to admit, I think it would at least have been better if they switched around the color schemes on Onua and Gali and switched around their names and personalities.
+Thevideogamearc I liked the mistika and phantoka a bit too, just because it was the last year with the normal team of 6 toa not glatorians!? And I don't get why peaple don't like the silver colours, I mean they are still ROBOTS and silver is a metallic colour.
as someone who grew up with bionicle and it's predecessors, these are one of my favorite toa iterations. they have masks featuring sharp angles, making them look like proper armor, the launchers made the sets extremely fun to play with, and the new wings and jet engines opened up new doors for MOC'ing. Sure, they might not resemble their old selves, but do they really need to? Haven't heard any complaints about how the inika drastically changed when they got re-released as Mahri. both teams "changed because of their environment"
The one thing I will say is that Tahu ALMOST has the same thing that pohatu nuva adapt got, which is that this new form of the Hau Nuva looks more like the original hau
no one is going to mention that these toa had a unique armor that changes depending on it's environment to protect and help the wearer in his/her dangerous environment
I legit can't see anything bad about the Mistika. Mainly because Onua Mistika was my first bionicle figure ever. I know I'm probably blinded by nostalgia but I just can't help but love these guys. Especially Onua.
I think if they scrapped most of the silver, kept the mata colours, and had the masks look more like the nuva variants, perhaps change the weapons to be more inline with the original, these sets would be 10x better.
+HORRIOR Personally I think this year's Onua would have made a fantastic continuation of Nuparu Inika... if that doesn't look like a mask of flight, I don't know what does.
+Tanma, Lord of all that is lime that makes a lot of sense 2008 was my first year so I can't bring myself to hate on it but I am not a fan of the Mistikia Toa wasn't a fan of it then don't rly like it now
It's dressing up day in kardi nui Tahu: I'm dressed up as a knight Gali:I'm dressed up as a pirate Onua:I'm dressed up a fish you know fins on a kinda original pakari The Fans:HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN?
A long time ago- Actually, never, and also now, nothing is nowhere. When? Never. Makes sense, right? Like I said, it didn't happen. Nothing was never anywhere. That's why it's been everywhere. It's been so everywhere, you don't need a where. You don't even need a when. That's how "every" it gets.
I'm not the type of person who gets really mad over my plastic not looking cooler than my other plastic. Not the best sets, I still like them. TBH I like the 2008 toa more than the old mata and nuva, maybe it's nostalgia because I didn't grow up with 2001-2003 (I joined late 2004)? Although the Mistika's weapon of choice could've been better...
I really like the Toa Nuva in 2008, the Phantoka are cool and sleek and the Mistika are pretty good but the only one I would like to get is Tahu Mistika since I think he looks awesome with his adaptive armour.
Mystika honestly felt like a new wave of toa, possibly the writers wanted the nuva to work with a new team but they half scrapped the idea and just “revamped” all of the nuva
How id fix thier masks: Gali: (even though I like the design) id replace the telescope with a form of goggles like her toa mata mask Tahu: honestly just add a circle in the middle to make it look like the classic hau (also maybe make his shield flamey) Onua: nothing he's perfect i might of added toa hordika whenua's jackhammer to his blaster but thats about it.
Something just occurred to me. How does Onua get around in the swamp? I mean, he has the too little booster things on his legs, but that can't be enough, can it?
I just missed out on the Toa Nuva and Mata sets as a kid, so I loved these as I wasn't attached to the OG Toa. I loved the Mistika, they were my favorite Toa sets with Mahri placed second. Loved the Mistika for their jets and flight, and I love the Chrome, dark secondary colour and black touches, and I know a lot would disagree, but- I like how they are a gun centered team. I see no flaws but I can understand why people don't like Gali hunched or a skinny Onua.
Interesting to hear the thoughts of the bionicle community. Personally Gali Misika was my favorite of the 2008 Toa, and I loved the new Kaukau the most of anything. I guess I'm an odd one out. :)
+person fishforce They're fine to me. Gali and Tahu have way too much silver taking control over their respective blue and red. Onua only really has silver limbs and weapons, so he's okay. But I think Gali's mask is the most ugliest thing I've ever laid eyes upon. What's up with that waffle on her eye?! 0__0
+person fishforce They have more silver than their primary color. They're okay but these are the Toa Nuva so imagine the hype when people saw they were coming back.
IMO these sets look awesome. I don't know why, but I think Gali is very badass, especially in their ad video when she and Onua are flying towards Tahu. But all of these sets are badass, sadly I don't have any of them, I never saw them in real life.
A really easy fix for those who don't like the modified Piraka build for Gali and Tahu, you simply reverse the chest piece to be more like a standard Piraka build, and in my opinion it looks reminiscent of the old Nuva chestplates. Also worth mentioning that Gali's posture can be fixed with one blue axle pin.
I never got the obsession with keeping the characters the same. I get keeping the old look, but I simply don't see the issue. Different setting and a stylistic evolution warrant a reimagining in my opinion.
I personally love Tahu and Onua's mistika masks, I just don't think they work as adaptations from their prior forms. Then again, did the nuva masks ever look like their mata predecessors? Barely. and I deMAND FAN ART OF GALI MISTIKA WITH A WAFFLE EYE
Hey, say what you will, I loved these sets. I only ever had one, Tahu, which sadly still remains my oldest Bionicle set (Though I once had the brown Rahaga-Pouks, was it? Anyway, getting that set from vision therapy was what got me into Bonkles, but it was sadly lost to the winds of time), and I wasn't really judging these Toa. I was happy how they were, and they were released at around the same time I got into Bionicle. When I did, they were still on store shelves, along with the earlier Glatorians. So, sue me, but they're an early memory for me, and one I will cherish.
I never had these, but some of their recolors and new parts look pretty sweet. Also glad to see that this style of blaster doesn't suck like in Mahri/Barraki.
What I hated most about these sets was the steep price. Canister sets went from $7 to $10 between '01 and early '08. By the end of '08, it rose to $13. I dislike the lack of resemblance and the excess silver, but by far my least favorite design choice was the absence of weapons for Onua and Gali. Were the blasters so fun that we had to get ride of swords and axes and the like?
I always liked the set growing up but looking at them now, I really wish the masks were at least reminiscent of their old designs. They look more like prototypes for the Phantoka toa masks than their old selves.
Is it weird i love these so much? I love the technology look and flight type stuff. Sure they don't look similar but it's adaptive armour for a reason. I dunno
I liked the phantoka a lot more with the flying theme. Like the Phantoka and Mahri were very similar to the Ignika, but they had a flying or water theme to set them apart. Also Tahu has the spinning thing but the others don't have any tools besides the blaster and are pretty generic Toa.
I was kinda realizing by 2008 that the designers for the Bionicle builds didn't really have much contact with the people who did the story, otherwise I feel like we wouldn't have gotten such weird sets like the Hordika, Mistika or even the Toa Mahri.
Unfortunately I only got Tahu and to this day I still regretted not getting Gali and Onua to complete the team. I know some think these designs are terrible/bad/whatever but I though they looked awesome even if they don’t look like previous incarnations. Tahu Mistika was my first ever Bionicle so he holds a special place in my heart. It wasn’t until recently I learned that Gali was a girl and I gotta say that’s one badass female robot.
Great review as always. I like the Mistika. I also have a question. Do you film the reviews or the intro skits first? Anyway, awesome review. I watch and enjoy them all!
My first set may have been Onua Mistika, (And even though i took him apart i bought a new one last year) I agree that there are flaws in its design, but it is a fun set that has plenty of play value as long as you have other sets to play alongside him, otherwise he just flies around and stuff. Onua Mistika was my first, yet Onua Mata is my favorite, I can time travel.
I know I got Tahu and Onua and those I don't regret buying. They're not good sets but definitely not the worst. Gali...probably good as a parts pack when I get her.
I came to bionicle in 2007 so having no experience or connections to the earlier waves. I loved the 2008 sets because I got most of them. Looking back as an adult however I can understand why people dislike them, especially considering that 2 of these sets don't have a primary weapon, just a gun.
+ltranc but lava is already molten stone, so it is impossible to melt something that is already molten. the difference with lava and magma is that one is above ground the other one under ground
Benjamin Morsch I know, the only difference between them is one is at the surface and the other is underground. But Eljay said "molten lava" when trying to justify Onua's red, but the element of Earth was mostly subterranean areas and therefore the correct term would be magma.
I guess I'm not alone in completely skipping the Toa Mistika in favor of the Makuta, which, I feel, are somewhat more unique though nowhere near the level of a Barraki.
The Mistika are really good to modify, I swapped the limbs of Tahu and Gali so that they both had Inika legs with Piraka arms, and then made an Axonn type neck build to add a nuva chest piece to each and to get rid of the stupid looking hunchback setup. The weapons are still terrible, though.
I remember getting Gali Mistika at my local buehlers because yes, Apparently in ohio, if you are lucky, you'll find an old bionicle or an old hero factory set, if they were shelf warmers that is. An Alien Conquest set, the mother ship is still at my buehlers for 70 dollars! shocker, huh?
is it weird Iike Gali`s design? I just like the colors blue and silver a lot. only wished she maybe got a lighterblue and another weapon, just like Tahu has that shield.
One thing that still bugs me up to this day is that Kopaka, Gali and Onua don't have any real melee weapons like a sword, claws or chainsaws. Only a tiny spear tip, "handling thing" and a boring scope. Otherwise I like the Mistika.
Mistika is just a title - The Phantoka and Mistika are still Toa Nuva, however with adaptive armor.
he knows that, hes part of the TTV channel, duh
I wasn't saying that especially for him. Just pointing out a fact.
I think that's the problem, when the Toa Inika became the Toa Mahri, there was a clear explanation for their change in powers and appearances, even the masks were changed for different ones, but the masks and powers of the Toa "Phantoka/Mistika" are still the same, so they should have followed the design lines of the original Toa Nuva.
@@neitherlink6612 but these are new masks with the power of adaptation in addition to what they had before, so they are different. I guess they could have kept the original looks some more but there is a reason that they are different.
You'll be spitting facts
See, the problem with '08 is that they had great Toa sets
Just horrible Toa *Nuva.*
Just good toa in my opinion.
The Toa Nuva were only popular in 2002 because of their silver armour. The organic look of their masks was a major turn off for most purchasers. Contrast that with Phantoka Pohatu and his perfect mask adaptation from Mata Pohatu's mask, or here with Onua's adaption of his original mask shape. Neither Gali nor Tahu match either of their first two forms, Lewa is at least well representative of a Toa of Air, and Kopaka has always looked pretty much the same.
Now, downsides of the Phantoka/Mistika builds are the same as with any Inika build, but I kinda like Inika builds to be honest.
Dylan Wight I can see how Phantoka Pohatu’s mask better resembles his original form’s (It’s wider at the bottom and narrower at the top), but I really don’t see any resemblances between Onua Mistika’s mask and his original’s (to me, the Mistika mask looks far less humanoid than Onua’s original)
I think if I ever get this Gali I’ll definitely replace her mask with One of the G2 masks and I’d Swap the hunchback with Onua Otherwise I think these are good sets. I can personally see the continuation from the original Hau and the adaptive Hau
I honestly think Gali Mistika is the best Gali there has ever been.. At least with Gen 1 as I've never owned any G2 Gali figures.
I like the Mata Gali quite a bit but then I dislike Gali Nuva 2002.. She's so Ugly!! Same for Lewa Nuva 2002.. Just eye sores.. Onewa is okay, Kopaka isn't that bad and then Pohatu and Tahu are the only Toa Nuva that I think look really good, but the Mata looked better for all of them.. Especially Lewa and Gali..
But yeah I like Gali Mistika more than Nuva and around the same as Mata, Mistika Gali looks so cool!
I love all of the Tahu's to ever be released, all of them are awesome to me so I can't really say I like Mistika Tahu more or less than any of the others.. 🤔 I don't know.. But I love it.
Onua Mistika again I like waayy more than Onua Nuva, but I like Mata more.
I feel like the best way to remedy this wave is to swap Gali and onua’s build type
I swear it looks like someone swapped gali and onua's body types
Very odd indeed, since if they were going to use those molds and shape, why not try to make them somewhat accurate in that if nothing else?
I think Onua looks sick. The mask is awesome, consistent color scheme, not even any blue pins!
ooooor not. he has blue pins. still the best set though.
Alliiiiii plush his helmet looks a bit like a pakari but with fins
Alliiiiii I.. I
I like all of them
Yep definitely the best of the three.
Still just okay in my opinion.
However I have to ask. Why not have him be the hunchback of the three like last time?
I always really liked Tahu's Mistika design. Onua and Gali looked dreadful, but Tahu's design always spoke to me. On a side note, I really want to know which set designer thought making Gali a hunchback with massive shoulders and Onua a lanky twig was a good idea.
It's like Gali and Onua's structures were swapped.
Onua I don’t mind, Gali looks very off to me
It's more like someone accidentally colored Gali set black, and onua set blue. Even the masks fit the other toa better, adaptive pakari is passably feminine, and adaptive kaukau has the manly jawline that fits toa of earth.
To be fair, Gali was always a broadshouldered set, something the mask of light movie bizzarly avoided, but the head structure her absolutely is off and it feels like they swapped her and Onua's head spaces
I actually quite like Onua
These are actually pretty badass Toa.
But why are you trying to convince me they're Toa _Nuva?_
Because they are the toa nuva. You don't call The Shadowed One "The Shadowed One Hordika" because he was in 05
That disclaimer about dust made me step back and think about how 2008 was 8 years ago
wow
Same. Only 8 years ago my mom bought me these three sets. I barely remember seeing them on the shelves at Target.
+MavezIgnikari yeah I know
+MavezIgnikari Wow
+MavezIgnikari Now I feel old.
At 2008 I was long grown out of playing with Bionicle and was lamenting how the new sets did not match the atmosphere of early bionicle and how "things used to be better in my days" >_
I love mistika tahu’s design however I can admit it looks more like jaller than tahu. Tahu always looked angry and it’s weird that he doesn’t here
I like Mistika especially Tahu because it always gave me the idea he grew and became much more wiser
Meh I got all of the Mistika toa and I actually liked them, sure they don't really follow the old designs but I do feel like that fit the aim and style of the story at the time. So I enjoyed them
@ATA GÜNENÇ alright kid
I'm personally indifferent about the Mistika. I see the flaws however when I got them in '08, I was just happy for Tahu, Gali, and Onua to be back in the gen 1 story after 4 years of absence. Also Waffle Eye.
But they were in the story in 06 and 07. Just not the Focus.
@@matthewbrown7834 yeah I think he meant in set form
why can;t people understand.... those are adaptive armors! they are meant to be armors that addapt to the enviorment in order to be able to fight properly , i can;t believe people bash the 2008 toa for being so different from their prior form , when it;s intentionally done so that they could fight under these circumstances...
+AxelBro You are right im have 2 of these sets and i think they look great
+AxelBro i loved both the mistika and the phantoka
Ppimi i am missing kopaka , i have all the others and i want to get doubles to keep them intact
joe mcgovern glad to hear :)
+AxelBro I have to admit, I think it would at least have been better if they switched around the color schemes on Onua and Gali and switched around their names and personalities.
A good thing about Gali’s mask is that it is great for ogre MOCs
Flattering design truly.
There's a backhanded compliment if I've ever seen one
So is it bad I LOVED the mistika.
Nope! X)
+Thevideogamearc I liked the mistika and phantoka a bit too, just because it was the last year with the normal team of 6 toa not glatorians!? And I don't get why peaple don't like the silver colours, I mean they are still ROBOTS and silver is a metallic colour.
+Thevideogamearc no , because it;s adaptive armor , not upgraded versions of them , wich many people don;t get....
+Thevideogamearc Tahu is my absolute favorite of the entire line
+IDK mine too lol
as someone who grew up with bionicle and it's predecessors, these are one of my favorite toa iterations. they have masks featuring sharp angles, making them look like proper armor, the launchers made the sets extremely fun to play with, and the new wings and jet engines opened up new doors for MOC'ing. Sure, they might not resemble their old selves, but do they really need to?
Haven't heard any complaints about how the inika drastically changed when they got re-released as Mahri. both teams "changed because of their environment"
The one thing I will say is that Tahu ALMOST has the same thing that pohatu nuva adapt got, which is that this new form of the Hau Nuva looks more like the original hau
no one is going to mention that these toa had a unique armor that changes depending on it's environment to protect and help the wearer in his/her dangerous environment
I actually really like the Mistika because I understand that they need the new adaptive armor to survive in the harsh conditions of Karda Nui
I legit can't see anything bad about the Mistika. Mainly because Onua Mistika was my first bionicle figure ever. I know I'm probably blinded by nostalgia but I just can't help but love these guys. Especially Onua.
Everyone is different! There is nothing wrong with that. Enjoy any set you want to enjoy. :) - Eljay
I think if they scrapped most of the silver, kept the mata colours, and had the masks look more like the nuva variants, perhaps change the weapons to be more inline with the original, these sets would be 10x better.
+Cheatster9000x then they would be a punch line.
what
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*w h a t*
*W H A T*
+Cheatster9000x then they would be generic not badass
+Cheatster9000x So change everything about them?
+Cheatster9000x yeh because the mistika where a joke.two beats on the drum one on the cymbol.
Onua's mask reminds me of Kanohi Kraahkan XD
+HORRIOR Personally I think this year's Onua would have made a fantastic continuation of Nuparu Inika... if that doesn't look like a mask of flight, I don't know what does.
+HORRIOR it seems i;m not the only one
+Lord Obsidious the toa phantoka/mistika were originally supposed to be the toa inika
Tanma, Lord of all that is lime *Eye twitches.* SO CLOSE
+Tanma, Lord of all that is lime that makes a lot of sense 2008 was my first year so I can't bring myself to hate on it but I am not a fan of the Mistikia Toa wasn't a fan of it then don't rly like it now
The Mistika KauKau looks a lot like Rocka's helmet.
Yeah, so I'm wondering if his helmet took a little inspiration from this Kaukau.
BOI IF YOU DON'T GET
@@ToaPohatuNuva umm no, it doesn't , Rocka's helmet is more similar to an Akaku Nuva than the adaptive Kaukau
@@TheAxelandx1 dang I didn't mean to offend ;)
ToaPohatuNuva uhhh ok? I was just pointing it out, not sure what you think offended me but ok.
It's dressing up day in kardi nui
Tahu: I'm dressed up as a knight
Gali:I'm dressed up as a pirate
Onua:I'm dressed up a fish you know fins on a kinda original pakari
The Fans:HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN?
A long time ago- Actually, never, and also now, nothing is nowhere. When? Never. Makes sense, right? Like I said, it didn't happen. Nothing was never anywhere. That's why it's been everywhere. It's been so everywhere, you don't need a where. You don't even need a when. That's how "every" it gets.
We have everyone’s favourite!
Waffle Eye, Spinning Blade Shied Guy and Flat face McGee
jamiro you genius
Optimus Prime you mean
Fidget spinner
Lol
i only hate Gail... i actually like Tahu and Onua
Cade Anders me too!
Tahu could’ve used more read honestly
Honestly, Tahu Mistika’s mask kind of reminds me of Tahu’s original mask, not his Nuva mask.
I actually really like the Mistika. Tahu Mistika is actually one of my favorites lol
I'm not the type of person who gets really mad over my plastic not looking cooler than my other plastic.
Not the best sets, I still like them. TBH I like the 2008 toa more than the old mata and nuva, maybe it's nostalgia because I didn't grow up with 2001-2003 (I joined late 2004)?
Although the Mistika's weapon of choice could've been better...
They all had interesting masks and I liked the fins on Tahu’s legs as well as his thrusters.
I really like the Toa Nuva in 2008, the Phantoka are cool and sleek and the Mistika are pretty good but the only one I would like to get is Tahu Mistika since I think he looks awesome with his adaptive armour.
I actually really like Tahu's design here, Gali is ok too
I didn’t mind Mistika Tahu. I think he looks good. As for the others, no. The Phantoka were better adaptations overall.
"These guys were from 2008. That was a long time ago."
Now I feel old XD
So the Phantoka and Mistika inspired the union function in the 2016 sets?
...
2016 still did it better tho lmao
A telescope? That's not a telescope, that's a dang waffle.
Mystika honestly felt like a new wave of toa, possibly the writers wanted the nuva to work with a new team but they half scrapped the idea and just “revamped” all of the nuva
blue waffle on gali`s mask... that´s gross
+Calafrio The Ice Lord
I see what you did there XD
Benjamin Garcia Google Search xD
Waffle eye
Idc what people say, these guys are the shit, some of the coolest looking bionicles.
Gali looks very militaristic and awesome! Too bad i didnt had any :(
I like how you hesitated when saying 'his name' when connecting him to tahu.
I never got why Tahu has a shield.... WHEN HIS MASK IS THE MASK OF SHIELDING!!
It's meant to be a saw
How id fix thier masks:
Gali: (even though I like the design) id replace the telescope with a form of goggles like her toa mata mask
Tahu: honestly just add a circle in the middle to make it look like the classic hau (also maybe make his shield flamey)
Onua: nothing he's perfect i might of added toa hordika whenua's jackhammer to his blaster but thats about it.
I love the Toa Mistika, I think they are the most Underrated Versions of the Toa but at the same time Lego could've done better
Something just occurred to me.
How does Onua get around in the swamp? I mean, he has the too little booster things on his legs, but that can't be enough, can it?
It can in the commercial he flew just fine with them
I just missed out on the Toa Nuva and Mata sets as a kid, so I loved these as I wasn't attached to the OG Toa. I loved the Mistika, they were my favorite Toa sets with Mahri placed second. Loved the Mistika for their jets and flight, and I love the Chrome, dark secondary colour and black touches, and I know a lot would disagree, but- I like how they are a gun centered team. I see no flaws but I can understand why people don't like Gali hunched or a skinny Onua.
I actually really liked the Onua set. I liked his mask more than the Nuva.
Interesting to hear the thoughts of the bionicle community. Personally Gali Misika was my favorite of the 2008 Toa, and I loved the new Kaukau the most of anything. I guess I'm an odd one out. :)
no, I think she looks great too
Never understood the hare towards them. In all honesty, they seem to be okay sets.
i like em too
+person fishforce They're fine to me. Gali and Tahu have way too much silver taking control over their respective blue and red. Onua only really has silver limbs and weapons, so he's okay. But I think Gali's mask is the most ugliest thing I've ever laid eyes upon. What's up with that waffle on her eye?! 0__0
+person fishforce They have more silver than their primary color. They're okay but these are the Toa Nuva so imagine the hype when people saw they were coming back.
+ThatAlessandroKid thats the only thing i hate about '08
+Classy Chu OH and also they use dark colors instead of bright ones.
Honestly i was so happy when i found out that was tahu because he looked awesome and tahu was my favourite character
IMO these sets look awesome. I don't know why, but I think Gali is very badass, especially in their ad video when she and Onua are flying towards Tahu. But all of these sets are badass, sadly I don't have any of them, I never saw them in real life.
A really easy fix for those who don't like the modified Piraka build for Gali and Tahu, you simply reverse the chest piece to be more like a standard Piraka build, and in my opinion it looks reminiscent of the old Nuva chestplates. Also worth mentioning that Gali's posture can be fixed with one blue axle pin.
I never got the obsession with keeping the characters the same. I get keeping the old look, but I simply don't see the issue. Different setting and a stylistic evolution warrant a reimagining in my opinion.
I love these sets.
I personally love Tahu and Onua's mistika masks, I just don't think they work as adaptations from their prior forms. Then again, did the nuva masks ever look like their mata predecessors? Barely.
and I deMAND FAN ART OF GALI MISTIKA WITH A WAFFLE EYE
Why do you need fan art when the model already does it?
I'm glad out of the mistika wave I got Makuta Krika. Best set in 2008 imo
Grenjo one word, 8 letters and one number....
AXALARA T9
The Mistika are my Number 4 spot.
Btw. I would rank the Toa waves like this:
5.Metru
4.Mistika
3.Glatorian
2.Phantoka
1.Guess what it is.
Tobito TV Inika?
The Aki War we will never know
It's the toa mahri.
Tobito TV mata? Inika? Nuva? Hordika?
Mahri or mata
Tahu mistika was one of the first sets I ever got, so he holds a speacil place in my heart.
i used the jet pieces to make pistols it works pretty well actually
Hey, say what you will, I loved these sets. I only ever had one, Tahu, which sadly still remains my oldest Bionicle set (Though I once had the brown Rahaga-Pouks, was it? Anyway, getting that set from vision therapy was what got me into Bonkles, but it was sadly lost to the winds of time), and I wasn't really judging these Toa. I was happy how they were, and they were released at around the same time I got into Bionicle. When I did, they were still on store shelves, along with the earlier Glatorians. So, sue me, but they're an early memory for me, and one I will cherish.
I never had these, but some of their recolors and new parts look pretty sweet. Also glad to see that this style of blaster doesn't suck like in Mahri/Barraki.
When you said they look like cordak rounds, something just snapped in my mind
What I hated most about these sets was the steep price. Canister sets went from $7 to $10 between '01 and early '08. By the end of '08, it rose to $13.
I dislike the lack of resemblance and the excess silver, but by far my least favorite design choice was the absence of weapons for Onua and Gali. Were the blasters so fun that we had to get ride of swords and axes and the like?
I always liked the set growing up but looking at them now, I really wish the masks were at least reminiscent of their old designs. They look more like prototypes for the Phantoka toa masks than their old selves.
Is it weird i love these so much? I love the technology look and flight type stuff. Sure they don't look similar but it's adaptive armour for a reason. I dunno
Why did I just get a notification for this? It said it was new from TTV and I've totally seen this lol
You got that phrase from 0:23 from Spider-man 2, I see you're a man of culture
Nice review as always Eljay. However, the video seems a bit hazy. May I suggest turning up the saturation?
I liked the phantoka a lot more with the flying theme. Like the Phantoka and Mahri were very similar to the Ignika, but they had a flying or water theme to set them apart. Also Tahu has the spinning thing but the others don't have any tools besides the blaster and are pretty generic Toa.
I got Tahu and Onua. Never got Gali, and I'm kinda glad I never did.
I hate Gali's design, I like Tahu's but it makes me think he's old and idk how I feel about Onua. Onua is too slim.
I was kinda realizing by 2008 that the designers for the Bionicle builds didn't really have much contact with the people who did the story, otherwise I feel like we wouldn't have gotten such weird sets like the Hordika, Mistika or even the Toa Mahri.
Meso should make a stop motion of him beating up Solek.
i wish I still had these,they are all in pieces now,along with 99% of the sets i got a years ago when i was really young
Hello, can you do a video showing all the Toa Nuva in their newer adaptive armour; as a group review of both phantoka and mistika toa together
My biggest complain is they are metru colors instead of gray and mata colors like the phantoka
Unfortunately I only got Tahu and to this day I still regretted not getting Gali and Onua to complete the team. I know some think these designs are terrible/bad/whatever but I though they looked awesome even if they don’t look like previous incarnations.
Tahu Mistika was my first ever Bionicle so he holds a special place in my heart.
It wasn’t until recently I learned that Gali was a girl and I gotta say that’s one badass female robot.
Maybe some extra weapons would be nice for Gali amd Onua... they kinda look lonley without any dual-hand weapons.
Honestly, I like these sets.
Great review as always. I like the Mistika. I also have a question. Do you film the reviews or the intro skits first? Anyway, awesome review. I watch and enjoy them all!
My first set may have been Onua Mistika, (And even though i took him apart i bought a new one last year) I agree that there are flaws in its design, but it is a fun set that has plenty of play value as long as you have other sets to play alongside him, otherwise he just flies around and stuff. Onua Mistika was my first, yet Onua Mata is my favorite, I can time travel.
I'm pretty sure I'm the only person who likes Toa Nuva Mistika.
I don't even have a problem with Swamp-variant of Kaukau Nuva
Even today I still believe this and the Phantoka where meant to be the Toa Hagah.
In the past few recap videos, there seems to be an audio glitch right before you start talking and the screen fades to the set.
I know I got Tahu and Onua and those I don't regret buying. They're not good sets but definitely not the worst. Gali...probably good as a parts pack when I get her.
I love the toa phantoka/Mistika and honestly, I love how different they look but they still *feel* like the toa nuva imo
have the blue pins ever not been a con?
Forgot how you would Need the Actual Pakari nuva Considering how impossible those canisters were to open
I came to bionicle in 2007 so having no experience or connections to the earlier waves. I loved the 2008 sets because I got most of them. Looking back as an adult however I can understand why people dislike them, especially considering that 2 of these sets don't have a primary weapon, just a gun.
I'm ok with mistika, but onua mistika is my first toa and i bought him a second time recently (i took the first one apart)
Onua was my first Bionicle set! I love his 2008 incarnation!
TheShadow The mata version was my favorite, even though the mistika was my first
Wait so the mistika are the second part to go with phantoka right
I feel like the Mistika get WAY too much hate.
IekTheWubbox I agree
Wait...didn't you saw Solek in half? Or did you buy *gasp* more than one?
"molten lava"
Eljay, you mean MAGMA.
same thing, shut up
+Oliver Collin not the same thing shut up
+George Bout that It doesnt matter. Not the same thing but it doesnt matter at all.
+ltranc but lava is already molten stone, so it is impossible to melt something that is already molten. the difference with lava and magma is that one is above ground the other one under ground
Benjamin Morsch I know, the only difference between them is one is at the surface and the other is underground. But Eljay said "molten lava" when trying to justify Onua's red, but the element of Earth was mostly subterranean areas and therefore the correct term would be magma.
I guess I'm not alone in completely skipping the Toa Mistika in favor of the Makuta, which, I feel, are somewhat more unique though nowhere near the level of a Barraki.
The Mistika are really good to modify, I swapped the limbs of Tahu and Gali so that they both had Inika legs with Piraka arms, and then made an Axonn type neck build to add a nuva chest piece to each and to get rid of the stupid looking hunchback setup. The weapons are still terrible, though.
I remember getting Gali Mistika at my local buehlers because yes, Apparently in ohio, if you are lucky, you'll find an old bionicle or an old hero factory set, if they were shelf warmers that is. An Alien Conquest set, the mother ship is still at my buehlers for 70 dollars! shocker, huh?
is it weird Iike Gali`s design?
I just like the colors blue and silver a lot. only wished she maybe got a lighterblue and another weapon, just like Tahu has that shield.
It's just people hating the mask and strange hunchback design.
Honestly, if they gave them different names, they would be perfectly fine.
Random question, why don’t the toa mistika get av-Matoran.
I never had the Mystika figures, but I saw them constantly on the Bionicle website and thought they looked badass
One thing that still bugs me up to this day is that Kopaka, Gali and Onua don't have any real melee weapons like a sword, claws or chainsaws. Only a tiny spear tip, "handling thing" and a boring scope. Otherwise I like the Mistika.