As an owner of a 114270 since around 2004, I never even thought about getting a 39mm. I wore my Explorer everyday for a decade until my wife gifted me a Grand Seiko GMT spring drive, which I wore daily for 10 years, though I'd get the Explorer out from time to time. I still have both the Explorer and Grand Seiko. While I've purchased several real luxury brands like Lange, which I use for special occasions, I now feel no need for any new watches. I'm glad to see Rolex come back to their senses to the 36mm format again. Would I like the longer power reserve? Sure. Will I get it. Naw. I'm happy.
Yes it’s a great watch. The only issue I can really find with it is it doesn’t have a little more pizzaz, but that’s not really the point of it, and another watch with a little more bling would pair nicely with it.
Where'd you get the black leather (alligator?) strap from? Ig you dont mind me asking. Im about to purchase(just got the call from my AD) thr 40 mm explorer. I will keep that on the stainless steel bracelet. But id also like to get a 36 mm from the grey market and put it on a leather strap, just like you had yours here in the video.
It’s a Hirsch, but sorry, not sure of the model. Have you tried Delugs, as I think they may some great straps for the Explorer, and they are quick release too. Have one for my Tank and I love it.
@@PRIIIINCE it’s a Bergeon. I can’t remember the ref number but it will almost certainly be the first one that comes up if you search for it. I use it for all my watches.
Everyone is going off the brand I’ve noticed celebrities seem to be selling them back to the dealers. I don’t like the designs, still not high horological despite their wait lists and prefer a leather strap on a watch in any case.
I personally prefer the pre-ceramic era. As you say, less blocky case design and not as much bling. Tudor have filled that gap quite nicely, especially with the latest METAS movements in the Black Bays.
I think you’re right about modern Rolex not being very well suited to straps. 114270 is a great watch and as you say nicely straddles vintage and modern, best of both worlds. Do you like the 16570 Explorer 2? Although advertised as a 40mm it actually measures in at 39mm. Due to the smooth bezel also wears smaller than a Sub from that era.
Yes in 2016 when I first bought the Explorer I almost bought a 16570. It was 3 grand 😂. I saw one in Manchester yesterday and it was 10! They wear great. Maybe someday when this channel takes off eh! I also tried a sub and that was three grand too. Both second hand and without papers, but still.
Don’t own one but I think the Explorer in 36 is the perfect one watch collection. That, or a Submariner of a SeaDweller. Anything else is a part of a collection but, the Explorer is the one that an do the formal or casual switch best (in my opinion) and so I would go with an Explorer.
Great, video! Thank you! Yeah I’m torn about saving up for a 114270 or the current 124270 model. I would of course prefer the newer clasp, better movement, etc, but I hate the baggage that comes with modern Rolex. I don’t like flaunting my money and I’d rather have something that’s even more hidden. So I think it’s a trade off. I’ll likely end up with a 114270 and save the money.
@@VMIyanks04 it depends also whether you are able to get the newer model, if there isn’t a waiting list. Yes I just think the older models have more of a cool factor. The new Explorer is a perfect watch, objectively better than mine but quite cold. Also, isn’t the lug width 19mm? I may be wrong about that.
T&T -- Can I ask your wrist size? At 8:00 your 36 looks pretty large to my eye. I have a 7.4 wrist and am leaning to the 39. If I can find one. Thank you
The 36mm is the way to go no matter which reference. Compared to the older 36mm to the new 36mm. The 36mm watch head looks bigger than the old 36mm. The dial pops more and is more legible (bigger markers, AR sapphire coating). HOWEVER, Not much of a difference from a distance. When you measure the watch head and compare, the size varies not by much. What's noticeable is the bracelet taper (which I prefer). Rolex went back to pre 1969/1972 bracelet sizes/shape and taper from the old rivet style bracelets (old Daytona/Date Just/OP had 19mm lugs). So in a way almost the same head with slightly smaller lugs. Again the taper bracelet is noticeable when the watch is off wrist. The old 36mm wears/looks larger because it have little taper on the bracelet. The new 36mm wears and looks like a true 36mm. Rolex really thought the design through and through because the shape gives it a slightly different look, but not by much. To me this new Explorer 36mm is a little more dressy/refined. The 14270/114270 looks more sporty. The 1016 looks more classic/vintage more of a strap monster than the modern versions. I have a 7' wrist and it wears perfect, doesn't look small. If you have a wrist smaller than 6 & 3/4 inch, the better the fit and look. Any wrist lager than 7 inches, this watch might look smaller than other 36mm watches. Especially with just a t-shirt if you're a tall/big guy, with big hands/long/larger forearms. When you have your shirt/sweater sleeve rolled up or just above the watch. It looks perfect on anyone. Thankfully bigger gentlemen have a 40mm (it's really a 39mm) option. The 40mm is proportionally the same design/shape and wearing experience as the 36mm, just larger for a plus 7 inch wrist. It doesn't pop as much as the old 39mm, so you get the stealth look with the new 40mm. The old 39mm pops more because of the dial and bezel even though it's the same size (just the watch head) as the 40mm. The 40mm is also more sporty because of the 21mm bracelet. Either way any Explorer 36, 39, 40 new or vintage you got a perfect everyday any occasion watch that flies under the radar. The only negative about the new 36mm/40mm (some say 19mm or 21mm lug width) perhaps but I wear my Explorer on the bracelet only. The issue is the gap or lip inside the lugs on the case. If you put a leather strap, it will wear out the end of the strap. Also you will need a thin strap because of the lug holes are close to the case on all modern Rolex watches. Rolex frowns upon strap changes. They want owners to wear their watches as Rolex designed them with, on oyster bracelets. If you opt for a strap change BUY a proper spring bar tool designed for Rolex to take off or install with ease. For me it doesn't matter, but I prefer to wear my Explorer on the bracelet. If I want to wear a watch on a leather strap? That's when I wear my Speedmaster moonwatch.
@@TimeandTalk The 1990-2009 36mm is a perfect watch as much as the 1016 and the 124270. Enjoy, wear in good health, and prosperity, God bless! I think the Explorer killed the lust for other Rolex models outside a good condition 5513 maxi/matte dial for me. Don't get me wrong I love Rolex but modern Rolex are too bling for what they should be. Modern Rolex references to me look like "I use to be a skilled working class chap tradesman. Now I moved up in the social class ladder. I am trying to be upper middle class/lower upper class rubbing elbows with the lower end, old money aristocrats". Besides the direction of Rolex trying to hold back and a global hype/shortage. The Explorer, Date Just 36, Day Date 36, the previous Explorer II polar, the GMT Batman/Pepsi/grey-black, and the ceramic black Daytona in steel are the only modern Rolex models that I want. I would pass up older maxi case Submariner, 41mm Submariner, Sky-Dweller, Sea-Dweller, anything in 40/41mm Date Just Day Date, Yacht-Masters for any other brand at this time. When it comes to luxury I shouldn't and won't beg for a chance to buy. I don't have time to kiss ass and play games with AD reps. I won't waste money and overpay a secondary used grey market dealer for a Rolex either. I rather buy used vintage Rolex or other brands that appreciate my time and business.
@@Milofchg Thanks for the comment! I agree about your taste in Rolex. I would love a Daydate (a vintage one) but don't think I'll ever be able to afford one
@@TimeandTalk On the Day Date you will be able to afford one. Take your time, save little by little, don't rush. Besides if you're under 55 yrs old, think of it this way, you/we are too young for that Day Date at this time. Even if we had the money. Fortunately these are not so unobtainable. You can find a nice example pre-owned 1990's for $12k to $20k. Expensive yes for sure, but in the watch world they are classics timepieces, found at bargains for the material and build.
Rolex went too ostentatious in the 2,000's. I have a 114270 myself, the more worn & less polished it gets, the better it looks. A barely worn Rolex looks like it's look is valued overs its' utility. The movement is perhaps the last that any well trained watchmaker can service. The only thing i would like to see is a domed acrylic glass. The flat glass is too reflective.
I have read that in the 14270 the lume doesnt last even 5 minutes but in the 114270 it lasts through the night. Im hopefull. My 114270 is on its way and should be here in a couple days @@mohnnadmercedes8246
As an owner of a 114270 since around 2004, I never even thought about getting a 39mm. I wore my Explorer everyday for a decade until my wife gifted me a Grand Seiko GMT spring drive, which I wore daily for 10 years, though I'd get the Explorer out from time to time. I still have both the Explorer and Grand Seiko. While I've purchased several real luxury brands like Lange, which I use for special occasions, I now feel no need for any new watches. I'm glad to see Rolex come back to their senses to the 36mm format again. Would I like the longer power reserve? Sure. Will I get it. Naw. I'm happy.
Yes it’s a great watch. The only issue I can really find with it is it doesn’t have a little more pizzaz, but that’s not really the point of it, and another watch with a little more bling would pair nicely with it.
Where'd you get the black leather (alligator?) strap from? Ig you dont mind me asking.
Im about to purchase(just got the call from my AD) thr 40 mm explorer.
I will keep that on the stainless steel bracelet.
But id also like to get a 36 mm from the grey market and put it on a leather strap, just like you had yours here in the video.
It’s a Hirsch, but sorry, not sure of the model. Have you tried Delugs, as I think they may some great straps for the Explorer, and they are quick release too. Have one for my Tank and I love it.
Beautiful watch. What tool do you use to change strap? I have a tool for changing my strap on seiko but it's not fit with the explorer.
@@PRIIIINCE it’s a Bergeon. I can’t remember the ref number but it will almost certainly be the first one that comes up if you search for it. I use it for all my watches.
Everyone is going off the brand I’ve noticed celebrities seem to be selling them back to the dealers. I don’t like the designs, still not high horological despite their wait lists and prefer a leather strap on a watch in any case.
Yes that’s true. I like the designs, but tired of all of the other stuff that goes with it.
I personally prefer the pre-ceramic era. As you say, less blocky case design and not as much bling. Tudor have filled that gap quite nicely, especially with the latest METAS movements in the Black Bays.
Yes. Love the new 58 gmt and Tudor in general pretty good. I agree wholeheartedly
I think you’re right about modern Rolex not being very well suited to straps. 114270 is a great watch and as you say nicely straddles vintage and modern, best of both worlds. Do you like the 16570 Explorer 2? Although advertised as a 40mm it actually measures in at 39mm. Due to the smooth bezel also wears smaller than a Sub from that era.
Yes in 2016 when I first bought the Explorer I almost bought a 16570. It was 3 grand 😂. I saw one in Manchester yesterday and it was 10! They wear great. Maybe someday when this channel takes off eh!
I also tried a sub and that was three grand too. Both second hand and without papers, but still.
Don’t own one but I think the Explorer in 36 is the perfect one watch collection. That, or a Submariner of a SeaDweller. Anything else is a part of a collection but, the Explorer is the one that an do the formal or casual switch best (in my opinion) and so I would go with an Explorer.
I agree. The Explorer though does sacrifice a little excitement because of this.
Great, video! Thank you! Yeah I’m torn about saving up for a 114270 or the current 124270 model. I would of course prefer the newer clasp, better movement, etc, but I hate the baggage that comes with modern Rolex. I don’t like flaunting my money and I’d rather have something that’s even more hidden. So I think it’s a trade off. I’ll likely end up with a 114270 and save the money.
@@VMIyanks04 it depends also whether you are able to get the newer model, if there isn’t a waiting list. Yes I just think the older models have more of a cool factor. The new Explorer is a perfect watch, objectively better than mine but quite cold. Also, isn’t the lug width 19mm? I may be wrong about that.
T&T -- Can I ask your wrist size? At 8:00 your 36 looks pretty large to my eye. I have a 7.4 wrist and am leaning to the 39. If I can find one. Thank you
6 1/4 inch
I have the same wrist size as you but have loved 36mm and am getting one in a couple days
@@youngphil8766 it’s a great watch.
The 36mm is the way to go no matter which reference. Compared to the older 36mm to the new 36mm. The 36mm watch head looks bigger than the old 36mm. The dial pops more and is more legible (bigger markers, AR sapphire coating). HOWEVER, Not much of a difference from a distance. When you measure the watch head and compare, the size varies not by much. What's noticeable is the bracelet taper (which I prefer). Rolex went back to pre 1969/1972 bracelet sizes/shape and taper from the old rivet style bracelets (old Daytona/Date Just/OP had 19mm lugs). So in a way almost the same head with slightly smaller lugs. Again the taper bracelet is noticeable when the watch is off wrist. The old 36mm wears/looks larger because it have little taper on the bracelet. The new 36mm wears and looks like a true 36mm. Rolex really thought the design through and through because the shape gives it a slightly different look, but not by much. To me this new Explorer 36mm is a little more dressy/refined. The 14270/114270 looks more sporty. The 1016 looks more classic/vintage more of a strap monster than the modern versions. I have a 7' wrist and it wears perfect, doesn't look small. If you have a wrist smaller than 6 & 3/4 inch, the better the fit and look. Any wrist lager than 7 inches, this watch might look smaller than other 36mm watches. Especially with just a t-shirt if you're a tall/big guy, with big hands/long/larger forearms. When you have your shirt/sweater sleeve rolled up or just above the watch. It looks perfect on anyone. Thankfully bigger gentlemen have a 40mm (it's really a 39mm) option. The 40mm is proportionally the same design/shape and wearing experience as the 36mm, just larger for a plus 7 inch wrist. It doesn't pop as much as the old 39mm, so you get the stealth look with the new 40mm. The old 39mm pops more because of the dial and bezel even though it's the same size (just the watch head) as the 40mm. The 40mm is also more sporty because of the 21mm bracelet. Either way any Explorer 36, 39, 40 new or vintage you got a perfect everyday any occasion watch that flies under the radar. The only negative about the new 36mm/40mm (some say 19mm or 21mm lug width) perhaps but I wear my Explorer on the bracelet only. The issue is the gap or lip inside the lugs on the case. If you put a leather strap, it will wear out the end of the strap. Also you will need a thin strap because of the lug holes are close to the case on all modern Rolex watches. Rolex frowns upon strap changes. They want owners to wear their watches as Rolex designed them with, on oyster bracelets. If you opt for a strap change BUY a proper spring bar tool designed for Rolex to take off or install with ease. For me it doesn't matter, but I prefer to wear my Explorer on the bracelet. If I want to wear a watch on a leather strap? That's when I wear my Speedmaster moonwatch.
Great and well thought out comment! Myself I’m more a fan of previous generations but that’s just my taste.
@@TimeandTalk The 1990-2009 36mm is a perfect watch as much as the 1016 and the 124270. Enjoy, wear in good health, and prosperity, God bless! I think the Explorer killed the lust for other Rolex models outside a good condition 5513 maxi/matte dial for me. Don't get me wrong I love Rolex but modern Rolex are too bling for what they should be. Modern Rolex references to me look like "I use to be a skilled working class chap tradesman. Now I moved up in the social class ladder. I am trying to be upper middle class/lower upper class rubbing elbows with the lower end, old money aristocrats". Besides the direction of Rolex trying to hold back and a global hype/shortage. The Explorer, Date Just 36, Day Date 36, the previous Explorer II polar, the GMT Batman/Pepsi/grey-black, and the ceramic black Daytona in steel are the only modern Rolex models that I want. I would pass up older maxi case Submariner, 41mm Submariner, Sky-Dweller, Sea-Dweller, anything in 40/41mm Date Just Day Date, Yacht-Masters for any other brand at this time. When it comes to luxury I shouldn't and won't beg for a chance to buy. I don't have time to kiss ass and play games with AD reps. I won't waste money and overpay a secondary used grey market dealer for a Rolex either. I rather buy used vintage Rolex or other brands that appreciate my time and business.
@@Milofchg Thanks for the comment! I agree about your taste in Rolex. I would love a Daydate (a vintage one) but don't think I'll ever be able to afford one
@@TimeandTalk On the Day Date you will be able to afford one. Take your time, save little by little, don't rush. Besides if you're under 55 yrs old, think of it this way, you/we are too young for that Day Date at this time. Even if we had the money. Fortunately these are not so unobtainable. You can find a nice example pre-owned 1990's for $12k to $20k. Expensive yes for sure, but in the watch world they are classics timepieces, found at bargains for the material and build.
@@Milofchg yes that’s true. 12k seems pretty unobtainable now but I’m 40, so maybe like you say too young for it 😂
Nice vid man, subbed
Thanks that’s nice of you to say.
It's a field watch
Rolex went too ostentatious in the 2,000's. I have a 114270 myself, the more worn & less polished it gets, the better it looks. A barely worn Rolex looks like it's look is valued overs its' utility. The movement is perhaps the last that any well trained watchmaker can service. The only thing i would like to see is a domed acrylic glass. The flat glass is too reflective.
I agree. Too sterile, the current gen
The 114270 is from the 2000s
Does the lume stay visible whole night??
I have read that in the 14270 the lume doesnt last even 5 minutes but in the 114270 it lasts through the night. Im hopefull. My 114270 is on its way and should be here in a couple days @@mohnnadmercedes8246
@@mohnnadmercedes8246 yes on mine enough to tell the time.
Looks over polished
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@@TimeandTalk the bezel almost looks like the one on an OP!