It’s not called interviewing today. It’s just following along with the narrative. And that’s it that’s the only guests you have on and that’s your monologue copy paste repeat what the liberals want you to say
i love how chill this is compared to modern late nite. Just an interesting conversation with an interesting guy and a witty host. Dont need anymore bells and whistles than that.
I saw Frank at a conference. What a moving talk. Heartfelt. Had the audience in tears. His message was children need their parents to be together. A loving home matters.
For those wondering why the feel here is so relaxed and conversational: this episode is from 1978, which was during the 8 year period the Tonight Show was 90 minutes long instead of the now-customary hour long show. This interview took place in the final half-hour, when more unusual guests could come on and there was plenty of time to go in-depth on a subject.
A few used to be, Craig Ferguson was hilarious on the Late Late show and David Letterman was a great show too, but Johnny will always be the aster. Probably the only TV show (host) I actually miss. He was the perfect end to any kind of day. 🙂
I worked for several banks in the 80's and remember vividly the security meetings we had monthly with tapes of Mr Abagnale. He is the reason I never had someone short change me or cash a forged check. He taught us a lot, and he was easy to watch!
@@fjccommish You've got a point, but u still don't know for sure.. he may have exaggerated his stories, but to say they're completely unfounded, that i'm not too sure of.
@@marksteve8373 Son, he's a self proclaimed con man. If you want to believe, believe. His hooker check story made no sense. He gave the woman a check that the hotel would cash for him because he was (conned her into believing) he was part owner. Why would she think they would cash the check for her? It makes no sense because it's a lie.
This type of entertainment was so laid back, reminiscent of the 1950s to 1970s era. It's too bad that it's lost and forgotten by now, I wish it would come back.
@@MarvelousLXVII The unfortunate fact, or fortunate maybe, being that he made it all up. So many of his claimed cons have been disproven to the point that almost none of his story is true.
Thanks for clarifying that punchline. The sound dropped out so I wasn’t sure what Johnny said. Did Frank say that the hooker was a well known model, in the beginning of that story?
I was thinking the same thing. not only that I've watched a few of Frank Abignails talks as well as dozens of Carson's interviews and I've never seen this. crazy!
Frank said somewhere that he was supposed to be only 4 minutes with Johnny and there was a next guest waiting but Johnny wanted more of Frank and pumped the other guest for an another show. He also said that he was a quest on Carson for total of 9 times. Hopefully those other times are uploaded to this channel too.
@@Olaz1, yes you could really see how J. Carson was intrigued by this guy's lifestyle. Also I can see why J. C. brought this guy back for more. It's intriguing but also against the law. And the audience was lapping it up. Carson knew his audience at home were likely into this story as well.
Young people today don't understand why Carson was such a legend. This is why. He brings on amazing guests, sets them up, and let them tell their story. No overexaggerated, fake laughing to trick the audience into laughing like Fallon. And no relying on stupid newspaper headlines.
Mr. Abagnale came to my high school and spoke to my senior class assembly in 1980!!! We had no idea who he was when he got up on stage. It was a fascinating presentation he gave!!!
I read his book in 10th grade, and it, along with 3 or 4 other books (Abby Hoffman's Steal This Book was another one) changed my life. I wrote him and he wrote me back. I emailed Frank recently, and hes as friendly and as warm as ever. Great man. Great life.
@@millermike5739 LOL! If u truly believe that, be sure and deep dive on Hughey Lewis of the band Clover & the News. He had very similar experiences scamming the airlines. Not that you'd believe it.
Only Johnny did interrupt him a few times. He didn't get a chance to talk about his work with the Secret Service and how he legitimately makes millions of dollars a year stopping check fraud.
A life coach I knew used to advise her clients to watch Carson to learn how to listen. He was really great at drawing people out. Just responsive enough, funny, but engaged. Really made all kinds of people feel comfortable.
There has never been a better host and interviewer than Johnny Carson. I truly miss him. This was a fantastic interview. Now I'm going to watch "Catch me if you can"
My husband always said Frank would be one person he would like to be on a deserted island with. Loved his stories. And we had an opportunity a few years ago to go to one of his talks through the AARP. We were in a hallway looking for the auditorium and accidentally got directed by someone into a small room when we were able to meet him personally and speak with him. It was a total accident. I think they thought we were AARP officials. But my husband is still thrilled to this day. (Frank’s talk was great too!)
This is absolutely priceless !! Particularly when the comment was made about Abagnale's story being fit for Hollywood ..... clearly a premonition foreseeing the 2002 Spielberg film. In principle it's hard to cheer and laugh over a crook's escapades, but this guy is definitely one of a kind. And Carson's the perfect side man for this, with is dry wit and .... that FACE !! I mean NO ONE can hold a card to Carson's expressions. Beautiful post .... thanks!
I heard that he once took a laundry bag , stood in front of an ATM machine in an airport With a sign that said, " Machine out of order, please deposit money with the security guard" Walked out with $75,000 at the end of the day.
Oh , so many people believed Frank's story including me .His story is just a story , Alan C Logan investigated Frank and Frank's entire story is all fake . Frank stole from people's homes and stole from a children's camp .@@frankmoyer5822
In the early 1960's when Johnny was the host, I was four years old, and I would sneak down and sit on the stairs to listen to Johnny while mt parents watched. I was so sad watching his last show. There was and never will be another this great. The One and Only!
@@TERoss-jk9ny Awesome! I see Richard Pryor as a link on this page. He lived in Northridge when he lit himself on fire. My buddy saw him running down the street when it happened. I grew up in what was Canoga Park and is now West Hills. In the 60's there were Condors in the N.W. corner of LA County and we saw them flying all the time. Too many people destroyed it all. Blessings
@@paulmikoll5186: Born and raised in Victorville. Not a lot of celebrities lighting themselves on fire up there… Richard Pryor was probably the greatest comedian of his generation. So sad how his life ended.
This man's story has been debunked by some journalists. Read his Wikipedia article. But some of the debunking work is very old and can't be found on the Internet anymore.
46 years later,and this interview and Johnnys quips are STILL entertaining us! Loved his show...I missed most of them sadly. But....they are all on cable reruns now! Lovin it
Man, a lot of this I was a little kid for but there is no one that came close to Carson. One of the reasons classic tv was cool. This is a helluva story and Carson’s expressions and replies, working WITH the guest…this is just awesome. Rest Easy JC, you are missed.
All very entertaining until he described impersonating a physician supervising residents in a hospital. Can you imagine being a patient in that ward?? I’m shocked at how lightly Carson treated that. So incredibly unethical and DANGEROUS.
@@calisongbird I I thought that,too! Even worse, I once read that something like 10% of all hospital staff are drug addicts. Anytime I am in the hospital, I remember that and it scares me completely!
@@calisongbird He was trusting that the residents knew how to treat the patients. Remember... residents have finished med school and have spent another 2 or 3 yrs as interns. So they are not stupid. But, yes, my first thought was that it was very dangerous, too!
Johnny '"I'd go back to your hotel with you for $300." He made me laugh out loud all these years later. This interview and how Johnny was throughout it is a classic example of why he'll always be the king. You could tell going in he had no idea how it was going to go...but letting Frank talk(which he loved to do) and asking just a few great questions that he figured the audience would be interested in, made it an fantastic 10 minutes. He's the best. It's amazing it took so long for someone in Hollywood to make a movie based on his story. Johnny and the audience's reaction should have been a pretty good clue that people were ripe to see this on the big screen.
I met Frank when he gave a speech at my college in 1980 here in Texas. He was a super nice guy. I was working on my lithography and printing degree followups in criminal justice, and he said, you know, getting busted for printing money is an automatic 20 years first offense in federal prison. I've been honest ever since.
Spot on. It was genius of Johnny to realize he had to keep him over beyond his time. He knew this was a once in a lifetime guest and interview. There will never be another Carson!
@@Ru4444 thats the point he was a conman and then he changed his ways, Im not here trying to be friends with him, I am pointing out that the topic is interesting
@@billie0429 He didnt change his ways, he lied about all his cons, none of it happend. I do agree with u that the show was funny and interesting, but educational it is not.
@@billie0429 Not sure if you understood what he said. He meant as in Frank might have made up most of his stories (about impersonating a doctor, about making 2 million plus dollars during his schemes, and such). Essentially he might have conned everyone about his cons.
One of the things that makes Sean Hannity one of the worst interviewers is that he doesn't listen. He's more interested in what he has to say than his guest.
Johnny never went through the motions. He listened intently to each and every guest like they were most important person on the planet. Which is why the show was never boring.
One of the great things about Johnny Carson was that he knew how to let someone else have center stage. There will never be anyone else like him. TV has been in a serious decline for years. If you don't believe it, watch late night TV.
Late night shows are so formulaic now. The hosts would not be able to approach the abilities of Johnny Carson in this interview. They couldn't even do this kind of interview nowadays.
The biggest problem TV producers face today is the public's short attention span -- particularly those who have grown up with the internet and social media. When I was a kid, we had 6 channels -- the 3 networks and 3 local stations. That was it. And it was fine. At night, I watched a couple of the network shows, Honeymooner re-runs at 11 p.m., and Johnny Carson at 11:30. We couldn't pause shows or skip through commercials. "Cable" was a word that came before "car" and "stream" was something you swam in. Today we have 500 channels, endless streaming options, millions of videos and dozens of social media outlets, all vying for our time and attention. That's why the networks and cable TV make their shows as glitzy and fast-paced and controversial and edgy as possible -- all while appealing to the lowest common denominator. Everyone's trying to push the envelope and quality suffers as a result. I hate to sound like the old guy in the room (I'm 56, so maybe I am) but the internet has not only shortened everyone's attention span, but has also made society more cynical, malicious, desensitized and ignorant -- and I'm afraid it's only going to keep getting worse.
Absolutely fascinating! Watching Johnny in action is art and class in its purest form. I'm so happy I was able to actually enjoy watching Johnny growing up, he is a gem sorely needed and truly missed.
All very entertaining until he described impersonating a physician supervising residents in a hospital. Can you imagine being a patient in that ward?? I’m shocked at how lightly Carson treated that. So incredibly unethical and DANGEROUS.
@@calisongbird might have saved several lives. Did you consider that? Multiple times encountered doctors who where so full of themselves (and supported by a major pharma company) that they would ignore multiple red flags that their diagnosis was wrong.
@@davenelson8187 excellent point and I agree! I also love watching old Dick Cavett show episodes, Dick was so masterful in his questioning, always supremely prepared yet never stole the show from his guest's. Sadly, it's an artform that's nearly extinct today.
@@calisongbird The thing is, he never tried to diagnose anything or prescribe anything himself. He used the brains of the highly trained residents, so the patient got the best treatment available at that time and place, and the residents got the best type of training because he made them use their skills to the full.
When Johnny was king, there was only 1 Late Show. Now there's a dozen. Why..... Cause they're STILL trying to find one as good as the Tonight Show w/ Johnny Carson... Not gonna happen. Thanks 4 these re-runs !!
This is great!!!!!! "Catch me if you can" was one of my favorite movies! After hearing this guy talk you can see how easily he could have gotten away with all of the things he did. What a charismatic individual.
He’s a lying scumbag. The con was the fake story of being a con man. He never did any of those things. Read “The Greatest Hoax on Earth: Catching Truth, While We Can,” by Alan C. Logan.
As a part of his parole, he came to our small class in high school in 1978. That guy is very good at what he did in large part because of his personality. Extremely engaging.
@@worlddd7777 He seems to have stolen it from someone else, according to his own promotions guy at the time; who claims to have been present when he heard the joke used. lol
Only Johnnie could do this interview without appearing anything but real and in the moment. Fallon and all the rest would be gushing and searching for a joke in all the wrong places and times.
Johnny was a very good magician at one time so I think he admires this guy who obviously is a true professional master of the misdirection. Notice Johnny let him have the whole segment of the program without interrupting. Johnny was in awe.
Frank telling that his life as a con man was a lonely life was the most heartfelt moment in this interview the rest of which was most definitely entertaining and interesting.
He's just like my brother, except my brother convinces himself that his lies are true. It's so sad to see people reacting to emotional trauma in such unhealthy ways.
Mine too. When in her 60’s we spotted a standee selling carpet I believe. When they were done with it they were kind enough to gift to Grandma. He stood in the corner of her bedroom for ever so long🫠🫠🫠
This interview is the perfect cliff notes for the inspiration of the movie… What a great storyteller… Within seconds of him starting in you cannot help would be hooked in to his charm and wit
"Catch me if you can" is one of my all time favorite movies. Seen it about a dozen times. It obviously came out after this interview, and the stories Frank tells Johnny closely follow the movie. That's cool. He's an amazing guy.
I had never heard of this movie but 1 night I went drop off a movie in blockbusters overnight mailbox and this movie was stuck in the slot and I've had it ever since Great movie.
The movie was good as a movie, but Abagnale's book of the same title was fantastic. Put the movie to shame... Also, the story of the time he did in the French prisons, which were barbaric beyond belief, leave no doubt that he paid his debt.
Beautiful, revealing, and entertaining exchanged between two gentlemen that were at the top of their respective game. A perfect example of the articulate story telling and excellent interviewing we grew accustomed to during this time period
Johnny Carson was a gentleman, but Frank Abagnale is full of BS. Look up the book, "The Greatest Hoax on Earth" by Alan C Logan. Instead of being a master con artist who reformed, Abagnale allegedly got arrested multiple times and never paid back his victims.
Fantastic interview. Johnny seems particularly well-versed in aviation. He used terms like DME, Loran (predecessor to GPS), power plant when referring to engines. So, I just read about his military service and flying experience. Impressive history.
There is no public record of any "Johnny Carson" on any NBC payroll, nor is there any record of him on any on its affiliates, nor at G.E. ("General Electric"), NBC's parent company. There is no public record of any "Johnny Carson" being being involved in aviation in any capacity. There is no record of any "Johnny Carson" in the Navy, or in any of the military branches. As a matter of fact, Johnny Carson was never on TV.
Amazingly done by Jonny Carson. Carson should have gotten co-writer for the film, "Catch Me If You Can". Nearly the entire plot has just opened up from his questions and follow ups.
I mean, its not like his questions wrote the movie. It was Abagnale's stories that the movie was based off of. Even if this interview had never happened, every single plot point of the movie still would have.
@@CUStudioFilms no, Abagnale had started telling his fake life story a year prior, in 1977, even had a press kit where the fantastical tale was laid out, had appeared on To Tell the Truth prior to Carson, and in 1980 he published his fake biography. All while this was going on, several reporters in different papers published a few articles where his whole story was debunked (I think Carson saw the article in the San Francisco Chronicle about how Carson had been conned and stopped having him on), but by the time the film came out, no one seemed to care.
I can listen to his stories for hours! I just found a video from 2017 with Frank that's an hour and 3 minutes. I'm so listening to that while I'm out showing houses today. Just fascinating!
All very entertaining until he described impersonating a physician supervising residents in a hospital. Can you imagine being a patient in that ward?? I’m shocked at how lightly Carson treated that. So incredibly unethical and DANGEROUS.
I worked with Frank in Houston . He was my boss. I had no idea at the time who he was . After the film came out I was shocked! I emailed him and he remembered me and sent me his book, autographed, his other book and some other things he had to share. I still have it. He was a very nice guy. At the time I worked with him, he showed me his photograph album with the stewardesses he withed with when he was a pilot. He was something else! He has a wife and children/ grandchildren now.
Mary Meek. do you remember what airline? In the film with DiCaprio it was TWA I hope you reply ty even if you don’t! The scene with the flight attendant in the film was TWA..here he says he worked for PanAM..
Frank didn't smoke, drink, or do drugs, his passion was women. In the book "Catch Me If You Can", which came out years before the movie of the same name, he tells of this encounter with this lady. He says he had before and since been with better women than her. This encounter is also in the movie. The book is better, but the movie is very good. If you haven't seen it, you should. Movie trivia: One of the French cops arresting Frank (Leonardo DiCaprio) is the real Frank Abagnale Jr shown in this interview, but he's much older.
@@snowrocket ys i heard that the book he wrote is great. That was a great scne in film that showed jen garner as the "model" and other stuff was was done well, exc for the fact frank wasnt an only child. but hollywierd always takes liberties in films
Carson was so skilled, I enjoyed watching him even as a grade school kid. I was lucky enough to have a television set in my bedroom, and some nights, when I couldn't fall asleep, I would turn the TV back on at 10pm and the dulcet tones of Mr. Carson would soothe me and I would eventually drift off to sleep. Ed McMahon reminded me of my grandfather, who was still alive at the time. Those were the days. Simpler times. Better times.
Except it wasn't true. Most of his stories have been debunked a long time a go and recently in 2020 I believe. He spent most of his time in prison when he claimed he was doing this stuff.
@@sundaybighouse wow, tyvm, didn't know that, never heard about it. Hmm, yeah, it seems there's been doubt at least cast on much or most of its wilder claims, which ere glamourized and largely swallowed whole, despite the alarms you'd think a tale like this, even the confession as to the nature of the taleteller himself "might" set off. Oof. Oog. Ooh, etc.
Everyone here hit the nail on the head about a good interview. Johnny was just on key!! I once watched Rachael Rae interview master chef Jaques Pepin while cooking, she didn't shut and was really rude. Fallon is the same way. Johnny was a well trained artist!!
I like Jimmy Fallon. He's very talented but he's not a great host. He's always injecting himself in to everything. All of the "bits" he does with guest are designed around his own talents. His show isn't really a "Talk show," it's more of a "Participation" show. It's interesting and entertaining but in no way is it the "Johnny Carson show."
This is one the most genuinely funny and riveting interviews I've seen. Johnny does a great job of letting the guest tell their own story--doesn't interrupt constantly. And Frank genuinely made me laugh a couple of times, real belly-laugh, enough so that it made my dogs freak out, LOL. I find interviews like this one so interesting, I think, because I almost married a gentleman who was a great con-man. Thank God I had a very good friend who spotted some inconsistencies in some of my would-be betrothed statements, and alerted me. I was able to double-check on some of the things he told me and found not a single thing to be true--and he'd said them with a totally straight face. Frank's story should be paid attention to and lessons learned. Thank you, Johnny!
Dogs do rule. Your story is also an interesting story. I'm curious, did you, from time to time, run into that guy who was pursuing you? Did friends of friends keep you abreast as to what he was up to? Thank you for reading my post.
@@scottykay1116 No, after I broke it off with him, I never saw him again--but I did discover when he left that he'd robbed me of a few things, my Dad's old six-shot revolver being one of them. I was alone with small children at the time, and Dad didn't want me so vulnerable, so he loaned the pistol. Dad reported it stolen of course, but we never recovered it. Anyway, he completely disappeared, nobody in town ever saw him again. One of the benefits of small towns, everybody knows everybody, and with my parents being deacons at our local church, the townspeople took it especially seriously and did look out for him. Anyway--lesson learned. "Trust but verify" is a great watch-word! Cheers!
To be fair the guest was 1 in a billion charismatic genius. But late night has really went to crap around the time most of them got crippling Trump derangement syndrome.
Johnny Carson was classy. Frank Abagnale is BS. Instead of being a master con artist, he is a failure. Alan C Logan of the book, "The Greatest Hoax on Earth", debunked Abagnale's exploits with records of arrests and jail during supposed impersonations.
I love this guy. I did ever since I saw the fantastic film with Leo & Chris. I love how his face lights up when he starts talking about being a pilot. He’s a hero of mine. Extremely clever adaptable man. Very innately insightful.
Wonderful interview. As you can see here, Johnny was really paying attention and not trying to make funny comments. George Peppard was listening intently and asking smart questions too. I read Frank's book, Catch Me If You Can. It was amazing. And remember, all of Frank's exploits he had to figure out for himself. There was no internet or RUclips videos to show him the way.
All bull , Frank's story is a total fabrication , he was in jail as a teen , it is a matter of public record . Do not let the truth get in the way of a good story .
Being from the 70's, I love the smooth fast speech delivery. Feels like today. Abagnale is a genius, but man was that guy dubious. Amazing. Johnny RIP.
Funny thing about this episode for me is that about this time, in 1980 I 'pretended' to be an NBC talent employee (I was only 14). I met Johnny every day for a week or so. I also met Doc, and Tommy Newsom and visited every set along the 'hallway'. While watching one of the shows I decided to cruise the hallways again (this time I went to a show taping as an audience member) and I was asked if I wanted to go to the 'green room' and watch the Carson Show as the security at the door thought I was talent on one of the other shows. Great times, harmless fun and a fun story to tell.
Wow!!! same thing happened to me accept I was only 13 and I pretended to be Johnny's chauffer. Do you remember David Shoblesteighn from back then?!! What a guy. Anyhow, Johnny caught Dave sleeping with his wife and he asked me(not knowing I was only 11 years old) to kill old Shobes for him. I called Dave into the green room on an off day and did my best Johnny impression which was hard since I was only 9 years old at the time. I pulled it off and after I was done I drug his dead body through the set and low and behold, Johnny was right in the middle of taping a show😂Why with this 7 year old kid just dragging a bloody body across the stage we all had a good laugh. After we killed all the witnesses we went for martinis.
Crazy stories! This was very entertaining.......and Mr. Carson is 100% class. I met him at the Newport Beach Yacht Club in maybe 2000/2001 at a buddy's wedding. We were "out back" and up rolls J.C. and a few other people. We got to say hello and shake hands. Very nice guy!
It probably didn't happen. Look around a little bit for people who have done background work finding out what abignale actually did. Most of the stories are false or can't be proved (as in, didn't happen, and the ones that did aren't very interesting - like writing a couple of bad checks and getting arrested, or conning friends and relatives - not big corporations).
@@daw162 well. Frank Abignale did something ILLEGAL! otherwise he wouldn't done time in da BIG HOUSE!: State Prosecutor. " let's arrest this Abignale guy. He'd look real swell in PRISON ATTIRE!"
I remember my Parents actually entire family even in Canada watched beloved darn truful, Jonny Carson 🎯. Thanks for memories Jonny Carson RIP God bless 🙏
I love how comfortable everyone is throughout this interview. George P feels free to add his thoughts to the conversation. There will never be another Johnny Carson and the impact he had on my generation. What a bunch of garbage there is on late night today.
Check out Britain's The Graham Norton Show, M Daley, if you haven't already but want to LYAO!! There are clips from Graham's 20+ yrs of talk shows all over RUclips to confirm HIM as the king of late night, IMHO (at least, pre pandemic). But I don't disagree about wonderful Johnny & his positive impact upon our generation. And yes, I, too, miss him a lot.
I cant and don't watch what's called late night today. I have tried several times, I find it much to political and its just not entertaining. In fact in most cases I find it down right stupid.
It is June 2022, January 6 hearings are looming above the horizon and I'm sitting in front of my laptop laughing uncontrollably. Thank you Johnny for a wholesome, good laugh!
yea I CANNOT WAIT to see piglosi have to tell her story under oath (Next jan 23) about refusing the NAT GUard as did mayor bowser on jan 5 and theres proof
Because he made it all up. You're the one getting conned. You think Pan Am would let a random, unknown guy in the cockpit just because he had a uniform?
@@randomtees in them days yeahh of course they would .....but your missing the point even if he wasn't the con artist he says he was ....he conned a lot of people with the story ....so who's the smuck?
I've been a fan of Thomas Sowell since the first video I saw. I appreciate his blunt approach even though, for some, it's hard to take. I say, if you can't face the truth, you will always live in the dark and be doomed to a life of insecurity. Truth provides security. Sowell is the best presenter of social historical truth in America. He's a rare historian, one who looked at history, without prejudice or concern for the response from the official line of historical fiction that we've all been fed, since birth. To me, he's a true patriot, in that he loves people enough to tell them the truth they need, to be successful and happy. The patriot part comes from making Americans fully aware, so that we can now see the operations against us and stop it, which is our civic duty according to the Constitution. Thanks much for sharing these videos! America needs this truth pill before it's too late.
Johnny was a master at interviewing. He allowed his guests to speak. A lost art today.
*Piers Morgan has entered the chat*
tucker also lets his guests to speak. .
It’s not called interviewing today. It’s just following along with the narrative. And that’s it that’s the only guests you have on and that’s your monologue copy paste repeat what the liberals want you to say
Brian Rose at London Reel also
Joe Rogan
i love how chill this is compared to modern late nite. Just an interesting conversation with an interesting guy and a witty host. Dont need anymore bells and whistles than that.
@Nick West I'm your age and hate all those things. Social media has ruined society
They had Conversations in those days.not a bunch one liners
Amen, Cavett and Carson were the very best.
@@Bossrich6287 No dumb games and the host Johnny let the guests shine.
Definitely. Well said 👏🏼
I saw Frank at a conference. What a moving talk. Heartfelt. Had the audience in tears. His message was children need their parents to be together. A loving home matters.
What a simplistic view of real life.
Frank’s entire tale is itself a con. He’s been conning people into believing his con stories, which is kinda awesome in a meta way
Fatherlessness and broken homes are major societal ills.
@@triarb5790, is it simplistic to say that if your cells do not receive water, you will die?
We taped that Conference I believe. What one are you talking about?
For those wondering why the feel here is so relaxed and conversational: this episode is from 1978, which was during the 8 year period the Tonight Show was 90 minutes long instead of the now-customary hour long show. This interview took place in the final half-hour, when more unusual guests could come on and there was plenty of time to go in-depth on a subject.
@@notfiveo Nah he always said that memoir story was his biggest con.
Most men were sleeping at that time because they had to work to feed their families. Most audience in front of the boob tube were females
No. In 1978 The Tonight Show was 60 minutes in length.
@@MikeSmithEnterprisesSeptember 1980 was when it went to 60 mins.
LONG TIME CARSON FAN HERE@@MikeSmithEnterprises, IT was 90 minutes then, changed to 60 in 1980.
I never knew american late night shows had actually been good at some point. This is genuinely relaxed and entertaining
A few used to be, Craig Ferguson was hilarious on the Late Late show and David Letterman was a great show too, but Johnny will always be the aster. Probably the only TV show (host) I actually miss. He was the perfect end to any kind of day. 🙂
Sounds like a very Republican thing to say.
Now, most of them are just mouthpieces for politically woke propaganda as they tell the same stale political jokes ad nauseum.
A time when late nite shows didn't have to be political every night.
People like Kimmel and Fallon and that swine Colbert are something Carson might step in while golfing.
I worked for several banks in the 80's and remember vividly the security meetings we had monthly with tapes of Mr Abagnale. He is the reason I never had someone short change me or cash a forged check. He taught us a lot, and he was easy to watch!
Most of the stories he tells are BS.
@@fjccommish what makes you think that?
@@marksteve8373 You think a career liar, con man was suddenly telling the truth?
@@fjccommish You've got a point, but u still don't know for sure.. he may have exaggerated his stories, but to say they're completely unfounded, that i'm not too sure of.
@@marksteve8373 Son, he's a self proclaimed con man. If you want to believe, believe.
His hooker check story made no sense. He gave the woman a check that the hotel would cash for him because he was (conned her into believing) he was part owner.
Why would she think they would cash the check for her? It makes no sense because it's a lie.
This is like hanging out in your living room at a nice dinner party. No politics, no smarmy sarcasm, just people being interesting.
Exactly. The late night "comics" today are way too political. They are toxic.
This type of entertainment was so laid back, reminiscent of the 1950s to 1970s era. It's too bad that it's lost and forgotten by now, I wish it would come back.
I think you are giving too much credit to dinner parties, or your inviting skills are Machiavellian!
Part of the Jimmy Fallon problem...he "thinks" he's funny and laughs at his own jokes.@@josephpeeler5434
NBC joke at the start
Catch me if you can, which was the movie about Frank was one of my favorite movies ever! Carson was a LEGEND and was a great interviewer!
Read the book he wrote about it. Much better than the movie in my opinion.
@@MarvelousLXVIIwas the book the same name as the movie?? I’ll have to see if I can find it! Thanks! Never knew he’d written a book!
@@Nick-gq2iy yes it is.
@@MarvelousLXVII thank you. 🙏🏼
@@MarvelousLXVII The unfortunate fact, or fortunate maybe, being that he made it all up. So many of his claimed cons have been disproven to the point that almost none of his story is true.
10:33 Johnny: "So you both got screwed!" LOL Priceless!
Thank you-I didn't know what he said!
Actually I think the word Johnny used started with an "F".
Yes! The noise killed the punch line fer me too. So thanks, also stories he tells mirror the movie starring Leonardo and Tom Hanks
I get where Johnny was going with the joke, but it doesn’t quite work. Surely he meant that she got screwed twice, rather than they both got screwed?
Thanks for clarifying that punchline. The sound dropped out so I wasn’t sure what Johnny said.
Did Frank say that the hooker was a well known model, in the beginning of that story?
As avid and devout a Carson fan as I am I am stunned I have never seen this interview! Truly astounding!
@Richard weber. I split my sides laughing 😃 again and again he was and. Is the king 🤴 of. Late 🌙
Way back in the early 70’s I remember watching the Tonight Show with this guy on it. Interesting.
I was thinking the same thing. not only that I've watched a few of Frank Abignails talks as well as dozens of Carson's interviews and I've never seen this. crazy!
You guys have to have watched Catch me if you can, the movie of his exploits is great.
@@treestandsafety3996 it sure is! Leo, Hanks AND Walken!
This was a superb interview. Johnny spent 18 minutes, give or take with the commercials thrown in talking to this man and it was worth every second.
Frank said somewhere that he was supposed to be only 4 minutes with Johnny and there was a next guest waiting but Johnny wanted more of Frank and pumped the other guest for an another show.
He also said that he was a quest on Carson for total of 9 times. Hopefully those other times are uploaded to this channel too.
@@Olaz1 , I hope the other episodes on Carson are available.
@@Olaz1, yes you could really see how J. Carson was intrigued by this guy's lifestyle. Also I can see why J. C. brought this guy back for more. It's intriguing but also against the law. And the audience was lapping it up. Carson knew his audience at home were likely into this story as well.
Yes! And no dumb singing games or eating games.
He goes into more depth in his books.
“Everybody likes a good scam, secretly.” 😂 Johnny!!!
Young people today don't understand why Carson was such a legend. This is why. He brings on amazing guests, sets them up, and let them tell their story.
No overexaggerated, fake laughing to trick the audience into laughing like Fallon. And no relying on stupid newspaper headlines.
The 3 late night idiots we have now have zero class and zero talent. Carson was and will always be the king of late night.
Agreed
So true
Majority of that generation were legends. We had war heroes living in our houses without knowing it.
Where I live, if you force-laugh like Fallon, people will say "your teeth will fall out". Because it's unbearable 😂
Mr. Abagnale came to my high school and spoke to my senior class assembly in 1980!!! We had no idea who he was when he got up on stage. It was a fascinating presentation he gave!!!
“Sell me this pen”
He has sucked in many people , with his fake story .
wtf was your school trying to do make you all con artists?
What high-school?
Alan C Logan investigated Frank and Frank's story is all fake .
Johnny Carson has such a fabulous voice. It's so distinct!
I read his book in 10th grade, and it, along with 3 or 4 other books (Abby Hoffman's Steal This Book was another one) changed my life. I wrote him and he wrote me back.
I emailed Frank recently, and hes as friendly and as warm as ever. Great man. Great life.
book came out in 1980
@@av8rr that would've been 11th grade. 43 years of drugs and drink will do that to u after high school.
@malcolmbliss777 it was all made up. I guess he scammed you too lol
Guess the book didnt have that much impact after all 😂 @@malcolmbliss777
@@millermike5739 LOL! If u truly believe that, be sure and deep dive on Hughey Lewis of the band Clover & the News. He had very similar experiences scamming the airlines.
Not that you'd believe it.
Carson’s reactions were terrific! Great interview.
Carson was the best!
*Johnny: "That sounds like executive material for NBC." 😂🤣👍🕺 LMAO!*
Carson was the master of the interview. He knew when to ask questions and knew when to shut up and let the guest talk.
Exactly, Fallon and the others today, mostly, can't seem to acquire that step.
Yes. The art of silence seems to have disappeared with talk show hosts.
@@Wooley689 Conan O'Brien Sux He is the worst always over talking
Only Johnny did interrupt him a few times. He didn't get a chance to talk about his work with the Secret Service and how he legitimately makes millions of dollars a year stopping check fraud.
wish Jordan Peterson would study him
Wow I miss Johnny Carson ...for some reason I thought he would always be there and youtube is making it possible ..Love Johnny
Gotta love just how flabbergasted Johnny looks everytime Frank finishes one of his stories.
frank is a fraud his whole stories are proven to be false
yep ... cuz that's what a con man does ... tells a good story
Johnny looks like he's thinking "now why didn't I think of that?"
It's that strange moment, always, where it's a great story but then reality pops in at the last second: this is horrible! :)
Strange dichotomy
A life coach I knew used to advise her clients to watch Carson to learn how to listen. He was really great at drawing people out. Just responsive enough, funny, but engaged. Really made all kinds of people feel comfortable.
Listening is an art
Johnny was NOT an interviewer. He was a host that listened to his guest. It was perfect entertainment.
I miss Johnny Carson. He was one of a kind!
There has never been a better host and interviewer than Johnny Carson. I truly miss him. This was a fantastic interview. Now I'm going to watch "Catch me if you can"
Read Abagnale’s books too. Lots of amazing stuff in there that they didn’t have time to work into the movie.
Also watch his google talk. I found it far more interesting than the movie. Haven't read the book yet.
Jesus Christ would've indeed been a great interviewer.
My husband always said Frank would be one person he would like to be on a deserted island with. Loved his stories. And we had an opportunity a few years ago to go to one of his talks through the AARP. We were in a hallway looking for the auditorium and accidentally got directed by someone into a small room when we were able to meet him personally and speak with him. It was a total accident. I think they thought we were AARP officials. But my husband is still thrilled to this day. (Frank’s talk was great too!)
@@emb74 that's so cool, i agree with him about the island thing. He would convince the natives he was a God and they'd build him a boat..
This is absolutely priceless !! Particularly when the comment was made about Abagnale's story being fit for Hollywood ..... clearly a premonition foreseeing the 2002 Spielberg film. In principle it's hard to cheer and laugh over a crook's escapades, but this guy is definitely one of a kind. And Carson's the perfect side man for this, with is dry wit and .... that FACE !! I mean NO ONE can hold a card to Carson's expressions. Beautiful post .... thanks!
I couldn’t look away. This guy was so interesting and a great conversationalist.
great storyteller
none of his stories are true
@@thewkovacs316 you think?
I heard that he once took a laundry bag , stood in front of an ATM machine in an airport
With a sign that said, " Machine out of order, please deposit money with the security guard"
Walked out with $75,000 at the end of the day.
Hello Linda how are you doing over there?
Oh , so many people believed Frank's story including me .His story is just a story , Alan C Logan investigated Frank and Frank's entire story is all fake . Frank stole from people's homes and stole from a children's camp .@@frankmoyer5822
In the early 1960's when Johnny was the host, I was four years old, and I would sneak down and sit on the stairs to listen to Johnny while mt parents watched. I was so sad watching his last show. There was and never will be another this great. The One and Only!
Ditto, only not the stairs part. I just crept down the hallway.
@@TERoss-jk9ny Awesome! I see Richard Pryor as a link on this page. He lived in Northridge when he lit himself on fire. My buddy saw him running down the street when it happened. I grew up in what was Canoga Park and is now West Hills. In the 60's there were Condors in the N.W. corner of LA County and we saw them flying all the time. Too many people destroyed it all. Blessings
@@paulmikoll5186: Born and raised in Victorville. Not a lot of celebrities lighting themselves on fire up there…
Richard Pryor was probably the greatest comedian of his generation. So sad how his life ended.
Oh my goodness Paul!! You just described my early childhood memories to a tee!!!! Yes, Johnny was the absolute BEST!
I did the same, exactly only a couple years older
I had completely forgotten how good the Tonight show was.
Came here after watching "Catch me if you can" again tonight. What a lovely fascinating interview this is.
It was the birth of the myth. lol
I love this man’s story and love the movie and the interview is so clean, no unnecessary jokes or cringe
This man's story has been debunked by some journalists. Read his Wikipedia article. But some of the debunking work is very old and can't be found on the Internet anymore.
@@brinckauyea his stories to get on tv back then were mostly fake and somehow became a great movie all these 50 some odd years later
All lies.
all@Daniel Drader
@@brinckau lol how convenient...the myth prevails but the facts have mysteriously evaporated. hmmm who to believe?
Beautiful long form interview that they just don't do anymore. Johnny was a master.
That's the way you do it . To many night show guys keep stepping on the guests stories and don't listen .
Johnny was the best. My whole family would watch -us kids, mom/dad and grandma and everyone enjoyed the show. Dang, miss those days.
my gramps loved Carson. i bet he's got a front row seat at the big Tonight Show in the sky.
Such a master that he let Abagnale lie for nearly 20 minutes without challenge.
Not on TV so much, but plenty of the biggest podcasts are just two people having an in-depth chat.
Johnny was a master at the interview. He was comfortable in his role and therefore didn’t have to impose himself on Abagnale. Excellent segment.
That's it. Johnny was the king of late night, and super smart, and had mid-west nice manners, so he was perfect for this.
huh? most of his story is a lie. he is a con man after all. you people are so gullible.
@@brianlacroix822 Carson shows none of the skeptic approach he took with Uri Geller. Though James Randi played a big part in that.
@@brianlacroix822 it's everything in is criminal records. Not everything is a lie.
@@lorenzodossantos1111 well some fools trust thieves. like you
46 years later,and this interview and Johnnys quips are STILL entertaining us!
Loved his show...I missed most of them sadly. But....they are all on cable reruns now! Lovin it
Man, a lot of this I was a little kid for but there is no one that came close to Carson. One of the reasons classic tv was cool. This is a helluva story and Carson’s expressions and replies, working WITH the guest…this is just awesome. Rest Easy JC, you are missed.
All very entertaining until he described impersonating a physician supervising residents in a hospital. Can you imagine being a patient in that ward?? I’m shocked at how lightly Carson treated that. So incredibly unethical and DANGEROUS.
@@calisongbird
I I thought that,too!
Even worse, I once read that something like 10% of all hospital staff are drug addicts. Anytime I am in the hospital, I remember that and it scares me completely!
@@calisongbird
He was trusting that the residents knew how to treat the patients. Remember... residents have finished med school and have spent another 2 or 3 yrs as interns. So they are not stupid.
But, yes, my first thought was that it was very dangerous, too!
Agree. no one comes close to Carson. Truly one of a kind. I always loved his shows .
@@jaynecampbell4396 Hospitals cause about 100,000 deaths a year.
Johnny '"I'd go back to your hotel with you for $300." He made me laugh out loud all these years later. This interview and how Johnny was throughout it is a classic example of why he'll always be the king. You could tell going in he had no idea how it was going to go...but letting Frank talk(which he loved to do) and asking just a few great questions that he figured the audience would be interested in, made it an fantastic 10 minutes. He's the best. It's amazing it took so long for someone in Hollywood to make a movie based on his story. Johnny and the audience's reaction should have been a pretty good clue that people were ripe to see this on the big screen.
Leo thinks he's still playing him today.
The television show White Collarbis also based loosely on his life story
I met Frank when he gave a speech at my college in 1980 here in Texas. He was a super nice guy. I was working on my lithography and printing degree followups in criminal justice, and he said, you know, getting busted for printing money is an automatic 20 years first offense in federal prison. I've been honest ever since.
Spot on. It was genius of Johnny to realize he had to keep him over beyond his time. He knew this was a once in a lifetime guest and interview. There will never be another Carson!
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What a great interview. I really miss Johnny. Watched him 1978 and on after emigrating to the USA from South Africa.
Elon, is that you?
This is how a late night comedy should be, funny, interesting and most of all educational
Frank lied about his whole life. Not sure why so many people believe a con-man, he is basically telling u he is a liar and people believed him. 😐
@@Ru4444 thats the point he was a conman and then he changed his ways, Im not here trying to be friends with him, I am pointing out that the topic is interesting
@@billie0429 He didnt change his ways, he lied about all his cons, none of it happend. I do agree with u that the show was funny and interesting, but educational it is not.
@@Ru4444 it is educational because i learned something and its my opinion
@@billie0429 Not sure if you understood what he said. He meant as in Frank might have made up most of his stories (about impersonating a doctor, about making 2 million plus dollars during his schemes, and such). Essentially he might have conned everyone about his cons.
The only way you can interview like this is if you listen really intently. That's why Johnny is a legend.
Johnny wasn't perfect, but he was extremely bright and seemed to have a natural curiosity about a lot of stuff.
One of the things that makes Sean Hannity one of the worst interviewers is that he doesn't listen. He's more interested in what he has to say than his guest.
@@TimothyOBrien1958 yeah well he speaks the truth.
@@KB-ke3fi Sure he does. He's a parrot.
Johnny never went through the motions. He listened intently to each and every guest like they were most important person on the planet. Which is why the show was never boring.
One of the great things about Johnny Carson was that he knew how to let someone else have center stage. There will never be anyone else like him. TV has been in a serious decline for years. If you don't believe it, watch late night TV.
Pretty Joe Rogan does this. I mean, that's why he's the biggest interviewer/podcaster in the worlf
Late night shows are so formulaic now. The hosts would not be able to approach the abilities of Johnny Carson in this interview. They couldn't even do this kind of interview nowadays.
Watch an episode of Graham Norton - nobody does it better than him right now
@@TicTaxx in those days a talk show host was half man, half DESK!
The biggest problem TV producers face today is the public's short attention span -- particularly those who have grown up with the internet and social media. When I was a kid, we had 6 channels -- the 3 networks and 3 local stations.
That was it. And it was fine. At night, I watched a couple of the network shows, Honeymooner re-runs at 11 p.m., and Johnny Carson at 11:30. We couldn't pause shows or skip through commercials. "Cable" was a word that came before "car" and "stream" was something you swam in.
Today we have 500 channels, endless streaming options, millions of videos and dozens of social media outlets, all vying for our time and attention. That's why the networks and cable TV make their shows as glitzy and fast-paced and controversial and edgy as possible -- all while appealing to the lowest common denominator. Everyone's trying to push the envelope and quality suffers as a result.
I hate to sound like the old guy in the room (I'm 56, so maybe I am) but the internet has not only shortened everyone's attention span, but has also made society more cynical, malicious, desensitized and ignorant -- and I'm afraid it's only going to keep getting worse.
Absolutely fascinating! Watching Johnny in action is art and class in its purest form. I'm so happy I was able to actually enjoy watching Johnny growing up, he is a gem sorely needed and truly missed.
All very entertaining until he described impersonating a physician supervising residents in a hospital. Can you imagine being a patient in that ward?? I’m shocked at how lightly Carson treated that. So incredibly unethical and DANGEROUS.
@@calisongbird might have saved several lives. Did you consider that? Multiple times encountered doctors who where so full of themselves (and supported by a major pharma company) that they would ignore multiple red flags that their diagnosis was wrong.
I recall enjoying Tom Snyder as well back then, similarly engaging, demonstrative and very relatable.
@@davenelson8187 excellent point and I agree! I also love watching old Dick Cavett show episodes, Dick was so masterful in his questioning, always supremely prepared yet never stole the show from his guest's. Sadly, it's an artform that's nearly extinct today.
@@calisongbird The thing is, he never tried to diagnose anything or prescribe anything himself. He used the brains of the highly trained residents, so the patient got the best treatment available at that time and place, and the residents got the best type of training because he made them use their skills to the full.
Carson is so good at his expressions. He also makes his guests feel comfortable! Hasn’t been anyone like him on late night television!
Leo did an exemplary job of portraying this dude's life.
I know it's years too late, but kudos.
On RUclips , check The Truth About Frank Abagnale jr .It is all lies.
When Johnny was king, there was only 1 Late Show. Now there's a dozen. Why..... Cause they're STILL trying to find one as good as the Tonight Show w/ Johnny Carson...
Not gonna happen.
Thanks 4 these re-runs !!
🎯 Bingo
Touchdown!
As only Johnny can, this is one of the most compelling interviews you will ever see. Just amazing.
No it’s not!
@@shanehollister8976 why not ?
I bet if he interviewed Charles Manson the lies told would have been zero
Best interview I have ever seen, bring me back to that era!!
This is great!!!!!! "Catch me if you can" was one of my favorite movies! After hearing this guy talk you can see how easily he could have gotten away with all of the things he did. What a charismatic individual.
I agree. His book was fascinating and the movie didn’t overindulge.
He’s a lying scumbag. The con was the fake story of being a con man. He never did any of those things.
Read “The Greatest Hoax on Earth: Catching Truth, While We Can,” by Alan C. Logan.
@@andyschultheiss5128 Frank says the movie was about 80 % correct.
However the book goes into a lot more detail that the movie could not.
@@richlaue None of it was correct, the movie or the book. All fiction. The con was the story of the con.
@@E.L.RipleyAtNostromo thathis not what Frank claims
As a part of his parole, he came to our small class in high school in 1978. That guy is very good at what he did in large part because of his personality. Extremely engaging.
@Bobby Woods that’s so cool. I’d love to meet him. Well I wonder if he’s still alive now 2022.
@@paulahunt3508 Most likely still alive. Frank Abagnale did a Google Talks about his life.
A good talker.
Best bad check seminar I ever went to was Frank's in the 80s.
@@dwaynehall6356 so, uh, how many 'bad check seminars' did you attend? 😀
The story that begins @7:59 has to be the best and most humorous one I've ever heard. Did not see that punch line coming at all. Outstanding!!
Too bad it was all made up
@@worlddd7777 He seems to have stolen it from someone else, according to his own promotions guy at the time; who claims to have been present when he heard the joke used. lol
Only Johnnie could do this interview without appearing anything but real and in the moment. Fallon and all the rest would be gushing and searching for a joke in all the wrong places and times.
👌☀️
Fallon would be giggling like a school girl and trying to make everything about him.
Fallon should be given The Joker treatment…... ….💥🤯🔫🤡
No Fallon and the rest would blame Trump...........
@@buddmannable orange man lost
Johnny was a very good magician at one time so I think he admires this guy who obviously is a true professional master of the misdirection. Notice Johnny let him have the whole segment of the program without interrupting. Johnny was in awe.
Great point.
Johnny should have fact checked him. Abagnale made it all up--his stories are lies. Carson as a magician should have smelled a phony.
Frank telling that his life as a con man was a lonely life was the most heartfelt moment in this interview the rest of which was most definitely entertaining and interesting.
Exactly. Well stated.
Well, couldn't have been that lonely when he could scam a prostitute who charged $1000 a night!
His whole story is a lie. Including the part you mention.
@@DanielOkulitch Do you have any evidence to support that claim?
He's just like my brother, except my brother convinces himself that his lies are true.
It's so sad to see people reacting to emotional trauma in such unhealthy ways.
Wow thus guy Frank was incredible 😅
I love how effortlessly funny he is and clearly how smart
You have not heard? Frank is a total fake , check RUclips Alan C Logan and Frank Abagnale . Sorry .
I miss my grandma. Thank you Johnny for bringing a lil of her tonight. She never missed an episode of Johnny Carson.
Mine too. When in her 60’s we spotted a standee selling carpet I believe. When they were done with it they were kind enough to gift to Grandma. He stood in the corner of her bedroom for ever so long🫠🫠🫠
I can remember watching Carson back in the mid 70' s -early 80's ,
with my grandparents ,nothing like him,ever, simply the best
Me too. But I never appreciated him like I should.
This interview is the perfect cliff notes for the inspiration of the movie… What a great storyteller… Within seconds of him starting in you cannot help would be hooked in to his charm and wit
The movie 'Catch me if you can' starring Leonardo is based on his life..🙂
He's coning Johnny Carson right now.
unfortunately its all a lie.
All made up bullshit.
@@seanogary1205 what do you mean? I'm curious thanks
What a fascinating interview. This guy can really hold your attention. Johnny was great.
"Catch me if you can" is one of my all time favorite movies. Seen it about a dozen times. It obviously came out after this interview, and the stories Frank tells Johnny closely follow the movie. That's cool. He's an amazing guy.
It would have been a fab movie had it not been for Leonardo di Caprio. Can’t stand him although he’s gotten better recently.
I had never heard of this movie but 1 night I went drop off a movie in blockbusters overnight mailbox and this movie was stuck in the slot and I've had it ever since Great movie.
Love that movie as well. Tom Hanks and Leonardo DiCaprio was amazing in that movie.
The movie was good as a movie, but Abagnale's book of the same title was fantastic. Put the movie to shame... Also, the story of the time he did in the French prisons, which were barbaric beyond belief, leave no doubt that he paid his debt.
“Catch Me If You Can”…obviously came out after this…you think…duhhhh??!?
Even though I've seen Catch Me If You Can a few times, this interview by Carson was informative. Johnny was truly great. Abagnale was fascinating.
Not informative, just more con. Catch Me If You Can turned out to be all fantasy.
@@TheDigMe It's a movie not a biography. Relax..lol
@@wallstbull1 the book Catch Me If You Can is called “the true story of a real fake.” This movie is based on that book.
Beautiful, revealing, and entertaining exchanged between two gentlemen that were at the top of their respective game. A perfect example of the articulate story telling and excellent interviewing we grew accustomed to during this time period
Carson was a great talent. His guest is a fraud.
Johnny Carson was a gentleman, but Frank Abagnale is full of BS. Look up the book, "The Greatest Hoax on Earth" by Alan C Logan. Instead of being a master con artist who reformed, Abagnale allegedly got arrested multiple times and never paid back his victims.
Wow, what an amazing story. Quite educational. I could’ve listened to this all day
Too bad its all made up
Fantastic interview. Johnny seems particularly well-versed in aviation. He used terms like DME, Loran (predecessor to GPS), power plant when referring to engines. So, I just read about his military service and flying experience. Impressive history.
Yup
There is no public record of any "Johnny Carson" on any NBC payroll, nor is there any record of him on any on its affiliates, nor at G.E. ("General Electric"), NBC's parent company. There is no public record of any "Johnny Carson" being being involved in aviation in any capacity. There is no record of any "Johnny Carson" in the Navy, or in any of the military branches. As a matter of fact, Johnny Carson was never on TV.
An absolute gem of a guy. Loved it . A good sum up mate.
Ed McMahon was a Colonel in the US Marine Corps and a fighter pilot.
@@larrysmith6797 An amazing amount of service just from these two guys!
I miss this kind of television. Carson was superb at everything and this guest was utterly fascinating.
Amazingly done by Jonny Carson. Carson should have gotten co-writer for the film, "Catch Me If You Can". Nearly the entire plot has just opened up from his questions and follow ups.
I mean, its not like his questions wrote the movie. It was Abagnale's stories that the movie was based off of. Even if this interview had never happened, every single plot point of the movie still would have.
@@CUStudioFilms no, Abagnale had started telling his fake life story a year prior, in 1977, even had a press kit where the fantastical tale was laid out, had appeared on To Tell the Truth prior to Carson, and in 1980 he published his fake biography. All while this was going on, several reporters in different papers published a few articles where his whole story was debunked (I think Carson saw the article in the San Francisco Chronicle about how Carson had been conned and stopped having him on), but by the time the film came out, no one seemed to care.
I can listen to his stories for hours! I just found a video from 2017 with Frank that's an hour and 3 minutes. I'm so listening to that while I'm out showing houses today. Just fascinating!
Dang, I miss Johnny. When a late night talk show was a talk show. Mr. Abagnale as a guest was gold.
This is Carson at his best. What an incredible interviewer he was.
All very entertaining until he described impersonating a physician supervising residents in a hospital. Can you imagine being a patient in that ward?? I’m shocked at how lightly Carson treated that. So incredibly unethical and DANGEROUS.
I worked with Frank in Houston . He was my boss. I had no idea at the time who he was . After the film came out I was shocked! I emailed him and he remembered me and sent me his book, autographed, his other book and some other things he had to share. I still have it. He was a very nice guy. At the time I worked with him, he showed me his photograph album with the stewardesses he withed with when he was a pilot. He was something else! He has a wife and children/ grandchildren now.
Withed with?
Mary Meek. do you remember what airline?
In the film with DiCaprio it was TWA I hope you reply ty even if you don’t!
The scene with the flight attendant in the film was TWA..here he says he worked for PanAM..
@@HowardLuken I'm guessing he meant "worked with". Only guessing, of course.
@@uptick888
I’ll have to check and I’ll get back with you. 😁
@@HowardLuken
Not in any illegal activity.
Catch me if you can is a wonderfully crafted film, one of the best!
The rapturous applause for Frank when he revealed he tricked a model into paying HIM for sex is priceless.
Deserved😂
wow This is a great get , im anxious to hear the story of what was portrayed in the film wth Leo Dicaprio and jen garner as the " lady of evening".
Frank didn't smoke, drink, or do drugs, his passion was women. In the book "Catch Me If You Can", which came out years before the movie of the same name, he tells of this encounter with this lady. He says he had before and since been with better women than her. This encounter is also in the movie. The book is better, but the movie is very good. If you haven't seen it, you should.
Movie trivia: One of the French cops arresting Frank (Leonardo DiCaprio) is the real Frank Abagnale Jr shown in this interview, but he's much older.
@@snowrocket ys i heard that the book he wrote is great. That was a great scne in film that showed jen garner as the "model" and other stuff was was done well, exc for the fact frank wasnt an only child. but hollywierd always takes liberties in films
Which is now classified as “sex by deception” or rape. Not funny at all.
Carson was so skilled, I enjoyed watching him even as a grade school kid. I was lucky enough to have a television set in my bedroom, and some nights, when I couldn't fall asleep, I would turn the TV back on at 10pm and the dulcet tones of Mr. Carson would soothe me and I would eventually drift off to sleep. Ed McMahon reminded me of my grandfather, who was still alive at the time. Those were the days. Simpler times. Better times.
Yes..that is the perfect description of Johnny...soothing!
'Catch Me If You Can' is one of my favourite movies! So seemingly far-fetched, but true, fantastic!!
Except it wasn't true. Most of his stories have been debunked a long time a go and recently in 2020 I believe. He spent most of his time in prison when he claimed he was doing this stuff.
@@sundaybighouse wow, tyvm, didn't know that, never heard about it. Hmm, yeah, it seems there's been doubt at least cast on much or most of its wilder claims, which ere glamourized and largely swallowed whole, despite the alarms you'd think a tale like this, even the confession as to the nature of the taleteller himself "might" set off. Oof. Oog. Ooh, etc.
@@sundaybighousenot true
The FBI did nothing lol
Everyone here hit the nail on the head about a good interview. Johnny was just on key!! I once watched Rachael Rae interview master chef Jaques Pepin while cooking, she didn't shut and was really rude. Fallon is the same way. Johnny was a well trained artist!!
He was a good interviewer but a total cv#t otherwise.
I like Jimmy Fallon. He's very talented but he's not a great host. He's always injecting himself in to everything. All of the "bits" he does with guest are designed around his own talents. His show isn't really a "Talk show," it's more of a "Participation" show. It's interesting and entertaining but in no way is it the "Johnny Carson show."
Rachel Ray isn't an interviewer. She cooks. Lol. No comparison.
Rachel Ray interviewing Jacques Pepin would be like Justin Bieber interviewing Mozart. It's an insult to the profession.
This is one the most genuinely funny and riveting interviews I've seen. Johnny does a great job of letting the guest tell their own story--doesn't interrupt constantly. And Frank genuinely made me laugh a couple of times, real belly-laugh, enough so that it made my dogs freak out, LOL. I find interviews like this one so interesting, I think, because I almost married a gentleman who was a great con-man. Thank God I had a very good friend who spotted some inconsistencies in some of my would-be betrothed statements, and alerted me. I was able to double-check on some of the things he told me and found not a single thing to be true--and he'd said them with a totally straight face. Frank's story should be paid attention to and lessons learned. Thank you, Johnny!
Dogs do rule. Your story is also an interesting story. I'm curious, did you, from time to time, run into that guy who was pursuing you? Did friends of friends keep you abreast as to what he was up to? Thank you for reading my post.
@@scottykay1116 No, after I broke it off with him, I never saw him again--but I did discover when he left that he'd robbed me of a few things, my Dad's old six-shot revolver being one of them. I was alone with small children at the time, and Dad didn't want me so vulnerable, so he loaned the pistol. Dad reported it stolen of course, but we never recovered it. Anyway, he completely disappeared, nobody in town ever saw him again. One of the benefits of small towns, everybody knows everybody, and with my parents being deacons at our local church, the townspeople took it especially seriously and did look out for him. Anyway--lesson learned. "Trust but verify" is a great watch-word! Cheers!
@@Doxymeister Your Dad's a wise man. So are you (a wise woman). "Trust but verify." I like it.
To be fair the guest was 1 in a billion charismatic genius. But late night has really went to crap around the time most of them got crippling Trump derangement syndrome.
I love the Movie based Frank"s Life.
Carson was class. He just let the guests speak and expertly moves the interview along without it seeming awkward.
So true. Greatest Generation were the most naturalistic entertainers.
Johnny Carson was classy. Frank Abagnale is BS. Instead of being a master con artist, he is a failure. Alan C Logan of the book, "The Greatest Hoax on Earth", debunked Abagnale's exploits with records of arrests and jail during supposed impersonations.
Well I think Carson interrupts a lot in this interview.
Johnny was one of a kind.
I love this guy. I did ever since I saw the fantastic film with Leo & Chris. I love how his face lights up when he starts talking about being a pilot. He’s a hero of mine. Extremely clever adaptable man. Very innately insightful.
Wonderful interview. As you can see here, Johnny was really paying attention and not trying to make funny comments. George Peppard was listening intently and asking smart questions too. I read Frank's book, Catch Me If You Can. It was amazing. And remember, all of Frank's exploits he had to figure out for himself. There was no internet or RUclips videos to show him the way.
All bull , Frank's story is a total fabrication , he was in jail as a teen , it is a matter of public record . Do not let the truth get in the way of a good story .
THOMMGB-Oh Yeah! I never did read the book, but there was a movie that came from that book under the same name, “ Catch Me If You Can! “
Wish they would make a movie
@@JB.924 They did. "Catch Me If You Can" starring Leo Dicaprio and Tom Hanks.
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Lol
Being from the 70's, I love the smooth fast speech delivery. Feels like today. Abagnale is a genius, but man was that guy dubious. Amazing. Johnny RIP.
Johnny Carson was such a good interviewer and this is riveting and entertaining all at the same time
Carson was the absolute best!!!!!
I never tire of Johnny's face when he looks amazed or confused. 👏
Funny thing about this episode for me is that about this time, in 1980 I 'pretended' to be an NBC talent employee (I was only 14). I met Johnny every day for a week or so. I also met Doc, and Tommy Newsom and visited every set along the 'hallway'. While watching one of the shows I decided to cruise the hallways again (this time I went to a show taping as an audience member) and I was asked if I wanted to go to the 'green room' and watch the Carson Show as the security at the door thought I was talent on one of the other shows. Great times, harmless fun and a fun story to tell.
Wow!!! Ballsy for a 14 year old! Good job and great story!
Steven Spielberg movie catch me if you can
Wow!!! same thing happened to me accept I was only 13 and I pretended to be Johnny's chauffer. Do you remember David Shoblesteighn from back then?!! What a guy. Anyhow, Johnny caught Dave sleeping with his wife and he asked me(not knowing I was only 11 years old) to kill old Shobes for him. I called Dave into the green room on an off day and did my best Johnny impression which was hard since I was only 9 years old at the time. I pulled it off and after I was done I drug his dead body through the set and low and behold, Johnny was right in the middle of taping a show😂Why with this 7 year old kid just dragging a bloody body across the stage we all had a good laugh. After we killed all the witnesses we went for martinis.
@@usware5240 I believe this just as much as Rick's story, bravo!
@@usware5240 i lold
Frank definitely had an interesting life. Smart and probably one of the first to use Social Engineering. He conned all of us about being a con.
We now know through some good investigative reporting that Abagnale made up almost everything he has been telling audiences for the last forty years.
He made everything up and is a liar, none of it's true just do a little research.
@@dragonchaserkev Sounds like you're a little upset that you got conned!
@@lilasatpug6930 Probably because as well as conning people with his book, he also conned some families out of money
He was one of the big inspirations for me becoming a pilot
Crazy stories! This was very entertaining.......and Mr. Carson is 100% class. I met him at the Newport Beach Yacht Club in maybe 2000/2001 at a buddy's wedding. We were "out back" and up rolls J.C. and a few other people. We got to say hello and shake hands. Very nice guy!
His story about the model and the cashier's check is GOLD!!!!
She was a well known model. Would love to know who that was.
It probably didn't happen. Look around a little bit for people who have done background work finding out what abignale actually did. Most of the stories are false or can't be proved (as in, didn't happen, and the ones that did aren't very interesting - like writing a couple of bad checks and getting arrested, or conning friends and relatives - not big corporations).
@@elenalatici9568 well. It wasn't TWIGGY!!!
@@daw162 well. Frank Abignale did something ILLEGAL! otherwise he wouldn't done time in da BIG HOUSE!: State Prosecutor. " let's arrest this Abignale guy. He'd look real swell in PRISON ATTIRE!"
And he's still very much alive, he's 74 as of the writing of this. Great, great interview!
The writers from Catch Me If You Can were so smart to use some of his dialogue in the movie.
They even used him in the movie. You missed that didn't you?
@@drats1279 I did!!! But I love that they gave him a cameo.
I remember my Parents actually entire family even in Canada watched beloved darn truful, Jonny Carson 🎯. Thanks for memories Jonny Carson RIP God bless 🙏
I love how comfortable everyone is throughout this interview. George P feels free to add his thoughts to the conversation. There will never be another Johnny Carson and the impact he had on my generation. What a bunch of garbage there is on late night today.
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Check out Britain's The Graham Norton Show, M Daley, if you haven't already but want to LYAO!! There are clips from Graham's 20+ yrs of talk shows all over RUclips to confirm HIM as the king of late night, IMHO (at least, pre pandemic). But I don't disagree about wonderful Johnny & his positive impact upon our generation. And yes, I, too, miss him a lot.
@@cherylh4688 I very much agree with you about Graham Norton.
I cant and don't watch what's called late night today. I have tried several times, I find it much to political and its just not entertaining. In fact in most cases I find it down right stupid.
Absolutely correct, especially about today's talk shows !!!
Love hearing Johnny's voice, though he's been gone for some time - what a voice!
I miss him too.
I never appreciated how deep Johnny's voice was.
By far the most interesting and entertaining person I’ve ever seen on Carson.
It is June 2022, January 6 hearings are looming above the horizon and I'm sitting in front of my laptop laughing uncontrollably. Thank you Johnny for a wholesome, good laugh!
Hello Ann how are you doing over there?
@@stefandieter4044 Just fine, thank you for asking...
@@annawarner1078 that's good, where do you live?
yea I CANNOT WAIT to see piglosi have to tell her story under oath (Next jan 23) about refusing the NAT GUard as did mayor bowser on jan 5 and theres proof
Look how relaxed Frank is as he explains his adventures. Smooth
Because he made it all up. You're the one getting conned. You think Pan Am would let a random, unknown guy in the cockpit just because he had a uniform?
@@randomteesIt was 1965, what do you expect man?
@@randomtees Wondering how you would know this?
@@randomtees I've wondered that myself
@@randomtees in them days yeahh of course they would .....but your missing the point even if he wasn't the con artist he says he was ....he conned a lot of people with the story ....so who's the smuck?
Thank you Johnny Carson for all the good memories ❤️!!! R.I.P.
I like the way Johnny allows his guests to talk
I've been a fan of Thomas Sowell since the first video I saw. I appreciate his blunt approach even though, for some, it's hard to take. I say, if you can't face the truth, you will always live in the dark and be doomed to a life of insecurity. Truth provides security. Sowell is the best presenter of social historical truth in America. He's a rare historian, one who looked at history, without prejudice or concern for the response from the official line of historical fiction that we've all been fed, since birth. To me, he's a true patriot, in that he loves people enough to tell them the truth they need, to be successful and happy. The patriot part comes from making Americans fully aware, so that we can now see the operations against us and stop it, which is our civic duty according to the Constitution. Thanks much for sharing these videos! America needs this truth pill before it's too late.
This is 1000x more pleasant to watch that what we have now days.
What we have nowadays, comparatively, is like a sewer leak.
Love listening to what he says. simple and so calm! fascinating!
That story Frank tells about the famous model is one of the greatest ever.
I wonder who it was....
@@AH-te5gs It's fiction.
@@randomtees How do you know?
@@rickyswift434 Interesting, thanks!
It might be a story he made up or heard from someone. He is a scam artist and can tell a story that people like to hear.
This is so much better than modern talk shows
Johnny was such a gentleman; I miss him!