I think Steven made the right call. At 'the wall' they agreed on 15% but then in front of the Dragons she asked for 10%, completely undermining her business partner / husband. I think long term, she'd be a difficult person to work with.
If you don't negotiate you don't get. Dragons that say their out when a counter off is out to them it's just ego. You won't be a good businessman if you don't attempt to negotiate. Steven could of said no I'm sticking to 20%
At the end of the video he keeps saying "don't worry" and "it's alright", but you can clearly see, he's absolutely furious inside. She f**ked everything up big time
No she didn’t. But because of Stephen acting like a child, we all think it was her that screwed it up. He could’ve simply said no to the counter offer. This show is about negotiation. But instead, his true colours of not being passionate about the business became swiftly apparent when he declared himself out.
It's completely normal in this show to come back with a counter offer. Steven was being a Nobber....but knowing how vengeful that Touker gets when he feels,that's,he's, being slighted or is not the first choice ...she made a bad tactical error in begging for Steven to re-offer. It was so obvious how angry her boyfriend was !!!!
@@earlofcumbrae-Ground_Zero Honestly - I don't understand why the two sharks went out? They both could have just stuck to their original deal. The guy was on board with the counter-offer so I don't understand why it's her fault? Weird end result here.
for couple to have had a chance (in this case) they should’ve recognised 20% + Stephen is pretty good. *unfortunately how were they to know his wavering interest
yes and alienates people like me who have a cross breed dog like even if its a mix breed they wont fit into any of these events. a better one would be doing it based on size tiers of the dogs or energy level
Yes, I thought that was really odd. It might work for common breeds but for less common breeds you would probably never even get the opportunity to attend an event. In my experience, dogs don't care what breed their friends are.
Yeah, but it was such a lowball offer from Annouska and she didn't really justify why she thought 10% was fair. She looked like she just threw it out there and hoped for he best. That's probably what freaked out Steven.
it was to low and i think steven thought there was no chance they could really make a deal if she wanted it that low. and he also probably thaught well touker is still in so they still have a chance but she blew that
defeat from the jaws of victory. All she had to do was go back with 15%, Stephen says yes or more likely no, but they can still walk out with the 20% deal. Its not great that after Peter called them out for too obviously targeting Stephen, they almost totally ignore Touker. Deborah I suspect regrets her praise.
Having met James at the first ever Dachshund Cafe, which our dog was the picture used on the Metro, I will say he is a great guy and the events are awesome. Some serious money making potential. The main issue is people being able to copy it.
The definition of arrogant is "exaggerating or disposed to exaggerate one's own worth or importance often by an overbearing manner" I don't like Steven, but I don't see how arrogant applies here.
Someone's in the dog house later on. That lady screwed it big time. I also didn't like how Steven Bartlett acted at the end either. Why make an offer only then to backtrack on it??? He was never serious imo
End of the day, if a potential investor pulls out just because you are trying to negotiate a better deal and you haven't outright rejected the offer, then it shows either: A.) The potential investor wasn't that interested anyway. B.) They are willing to be petty. I have a hobby that involves selling to high-end collectors. I will ALWAYS negotiate and if someone pulls out because of it, it is usually always a bullet dodged with that collector.
Anthropomorphizing dogs? Corgis would be happier herding cows. Pugs would be happier if they could breathe more freely. Cavapoos would be happier if they were either a King Charles spaniel or poodle.
lmao.. happier king charles? Yeah they are very happy when they are seizing on the floor because their brains are literally BIGGER THAN THEIR SKULL!! And lets not get into nearly half of them having mitral valve disease problems... A cavapoo is miles ahead at being healthier than those genetic abominations...
She messed that up big time - too emotional and too honest about only wanting Stephen. No negotiating skills on show. Im glad Touker pulled out when he did because you could tell exactly what they wanted. The guy got undermined - should've negotiated at 15%
My god she reeeeaaaaalllyyyy put her foot in it there. Not only did she blow it with Steven but then also to alienate Touker like that... oooft. My man may say don't worry but he is FUMING. That face 13:04.
No need to feel bad about it (or blame Anushka like many commenters are doing), Steven just changed his mind after making an impulsive offer (again) and saw the opportunity to get out while blaming the entrepreneurs for it. That deal would have fell through in a later stadium anyway, like most of his "deals".
Younger generations like Steven always act on impulses and only think about it later, this is evident here. He made an offer then realised it wasn't a good deal, so he found an excuse to withdraw.
Next time this guy goes for ANY business related deals This Anushka Lady should stay home and play with the dog . THIS GUY WAS GONNA CLOSE A DEAL ,POTENTIALLY 2 DRAGONS .SHE IS NOT A BUSINESS PERSON
That was spiteful of Steven - and so dramatic. Good Lord dude, you're not saving lives. And you're probably only on your first. You made bank. Park the ego some.
I disagree with people saying Steven was necessarily not passionate about the business, I think he realized in that moment that the couple (mainly the wife, unfortunately) would be too difficult and naive to work with
I don't love these newer pitches tbh, it's always social media this coffee that, tiktok this, much worse but slightly more sustainable alternative to everyday product that
I’m going to twist this round. They are running a business where they are feeding dogs non nutritious food. I would never take my dog to one of their events. I care too much for her health.
lol, she f-ed up, don't be greedy and change when you think you have the upper hand, especialy since she agreed with her partner on 15%....but then unilaterally decided to suggest 10%.
@@paulleadbeater480 Nice, he also has 400 videos on his profile with him on camera in most of them... so I'm going to say 'doubt' on that one, i'mma sub to him :D
I see the word "PUPUCHINO" 🤬🤮😩🙄 and a pug that has a litany of health ailments because they're bred for being "cute" and a fashion accessory. Makes me really f-king angry this kind of bs
that man is fuming at the end hahah
I think Steven made the right call. At 'the wall' they agreed on 15% but then in front of the Dragons she asked for 10%, completely undermining her business partner / husband. I think long term, she'd be a difficult person to work with.
Yeah, don’t play games in this situation.
*These guys will never forget the Den🤦♂️
I don't think Steven was that passionate about the business, he could have just said no Im sticking to 20%.
He started with his heart and then his head kicked in.
That's exactly right@@christophermills1733
Says a broke dude
I agree...his heart was never really in it
He will make his own.
Anushka will be in the dog house when they get home.
She clearly is a control freak, the way she's constantly monitoring her fella and cutting in.
poor guy even asked for permission to ansewar Touker's question! :'( @@warrengeew
if dude came alone to pitch, he would've made 15% closing the deals. But the lady just destroyed entire scene.
Nothing new
That estrogen kicked in....💊 Got emotional and touchy-feely instead of being about business
If you don't negotiate you don't get. Dragons that say their out when a counter off is out to them it's just ego. You won't be a good businessman if you don't attempt to negotiate. Steven could of said no I'm sticking to 20%
@@JazzyMarineVet😂😂😂😂😂
@@rishiyanvarsha negotiating different than this scene. She just begged to get offer from Steven.
At the end of the video he keeps saying "don't worry" and "it's alright", but you can clearly see, he's absolutely furious inside. She f**ked everything up big time
No she didn’t. But because of Stephen acting like a child, we all think it was her that screwed it up. He could’ve simply said no to the counter offer. This show is about negotiation. But instead, his true colours of not being passionate about the business became swiftly apparent when he declared himself out.
It's completely normal in this show to come back with a counter offer. Steven was being a Nobber....but knowing how vengeful that Touker gets when he feels,that's,he's, being slighted or is not the first choice ...she made a bad tactical error in begging for Steven to re-offer. It was so obvious how angry her boyfriend was !!!!
Deborah has done this before...the people showed poor judgment with their counters, so Stephen backed out.
@@earlofcumbrae-Ground_Zero Honestly - I don't understand why the two sharks went out? They both could have just stuck to their original deal. The guy was on board with the counter-offer so I don't understand why it's her fault? Weird end result here.
for couple to have had a chance (in this case) they should’ve recognised 20% + Stephen is pretty good. *unfortunately how were they to know his wavering interest
Must admit I don't understand the reason of just having one breed per site. Really slims the customer base for slightly better photos, lol.
Same.
yes and alienates people like me who have a cross breed dog like even if its a mix breed they wont fit into any of these events. a better one would be doing it based on size tiers of the dogs or energy level
Yes, I thought that was really odd. It might work for common breeds but for less common breeds you would probably never even get the opportunity to attend an event. In my experience, dogs don't care what breed their friends are.
The man was fuming at the end lol
She (Anushka) should never play poker!
She royally fked that up. Never seen such a negotiation blunder. Like she was negotiating the table seats at lunch break lol
If Stephen was really that eager, he wouldnt have pulled out. They actually dodged a bullet
Definitely, it's amazing very few people pick up on this.
Finally someone who gets it
You mean HE dodged a bullet.
He dogged a bullet*"*
@@thefonzkiss You do know that "they" is a pronoun in the English language to refer to a "he" or "she", right? If not, search it up, please
That was ridiculous. Negotiation is expected in the Den. Stephen could have just said no, he's sticking with 20%.
Yeah, but it was such a lowball offer from Annouska and she didn't really justify why she thought 10% was fair. She looked like she just threw it out there and hoped for he best. That's probably what freaked out Steven.
Yeahhh that's right, but deal would have likely fallen at due diligence even if they shook hands.
it was to low and i think steven thought there was no chance they could really make a deal if she wanted it that low. and he also probably thaught well touker is still in so they still have a chance but she blew that
defeat from the jaws of victory. All she had to do was go back with 15%, Stephen says yes or more likely no, but they can still walk out with the 20% deal. Its not great that after Peter called them out for too obviously targeting Stephen, they almost totally ignore Touker.
Deborah I suspect regrets her praise.
all she had to do was keep her yapper shut and let the man do the talking
@@user-rw8rc3yp9d that is not the spirit in which my post was meant.
Found the incel.@@user-rw8rc3yp9d
Usually dragons are open to negotiations and don't withdraw straight away 😮 that was definitely unexpected
Den's biggest doggie lover, Debroh...had me in splits 🤣🤣
Having met James at the first ever Dachshund Cafe, which our dog was the picture used on the Metro, I will say he is a great guy and the events are awesome. Some serious money making potential. The main issue is people being able to copy it.
Yeah the dude is alright, the girl is a loony.
How much does it cost to attend?
@@likeasambud9817 lol how is she a loony ??
That was one if the most heart breaking refusals....
People really will make a business out of anything to over-saturate a market won't they. Painless enough though, happy dogs
Doggy discos🪩? I mean, cmon 😂
What an arrogant thing to do by Steven. He clearly wasn’t serious enough about the business or his offer to back away after 1 counter.
2 counters if you count their facial response to 10% and 15%
Arrogant? I don't see it. I think he was honest enough - his explanation matched his body language.
The definition of arrogant is "exaggerating or disposed to exaggerate one's own worth or importance often by an overbearing manner" I don't like Steven, but I don't see how arrogant applies here.
Defeat snatched from the jaws of certain victory! 😂 utterly inept.
I thought Michael carrick was managing Middlesbrough 😂😂😂
Someone's in the dog house later on. That lady screwed it big time. I also didn't like how Steven Bartlett acted at the end either. Why make an offer only then to backtrack on it??? He was never serious imo
Agree
End of the day, if a potential investor pulls out just because you are trying to negotiate a better deal and you haven't outright rejected the offer, then it shows either:
A.) The potential investor wasn't that interested anyway.
B.) They are willing to be petty.
I have a hobby that involves selling to high-end collectors. I will ALWAYS negotiate and if someone pulls out because of it, it is usually always a bullet dodged with that collector.
I wouldn’t be able to be a dragon on that show. Their faces when they both said “I’m out.”
Anthropomorphizing dogs? Corgis would be happier herding cows. Pugs would be happier if they could breathe more freely. Cavapoos would be happier if they were either a King Charles spaniel or poodle.
lmao.. happier king charles? Yeah they are very happy when they are seizing on the floor because their brains are literally BIGGER THAN THEIR SKULL!! And lets not get into nearly half of them having mitral valve disease problems... A cavapoo is miles ahead at being healthier than those genetic abominations...
Damn this one was painful
Her eyeballs are popping out of here head! She looks like she’s been at a few too many doggie discos 😂
She's a pug mom. And eyes popping out of their heads is a well-known problem with pugs.
i respect that dude tbh
She messed that up big time - too emotional and too honest about only wanting Stephen. No negotiating skills on show. Im glad Touker pulled out when he did because you could tell exactly what they wanted. The guy got undermined - should've negotiated at 15%
My god she reeeeaaaaalllyyyy put her foot in it there. Not only did she blow it with Steven but then also to alienate Touker like that... oooft.
My man may say don't worry but he is FUMING. That face 13:04.
No need to feel bad about it (or blame Anushka like many commenters are doing), Steven just changed his mind after making an impulsive offer (again) and saw the opportunity to get out while blaming the entrepreneurs for it. That deal would have fell through in a later stadium anyway, like most of his "deals".
*fell through like most of DD "on screen deals". Reportedly, 60-70% don't make it past due diligence stage.
Younger generations like Steven always act on impulses and only think about it later, this is evident here. He made an offer then realised it wasn't a good deal, so he found an excuse to withdraw.
The deal would have been done easily if Anushka had kept her cool.
Anushka is the perfect example of someone who doesn't know when to stfu 😂
Next time this guy goes for ANY business related deals This Anushka Lady should stay home and play with the dog . THIS GUY WAS GONNA CLOSE A DEAL ,POTENTIALLY 2 DRAGONS .SHE IS NOT A BUSINESS PERSON
I know bro channeled his inner Chris Benoit when they got home😂
Jesus took that one a bit deep didn’t ya
I’m so glad they didn’t get the investment. This is so dumb. Dog owners are bonkers.
You're completely correct. Why have dogs when you can have... cats? ;)
He was fuming 😂
That lady's eyes freak me out😮
pass me a sick bucket
ikr! "pupuchino" bollocks and a breed of dog that can't breathe properly bc they're a f-king fashion accessory 😡 such BS!!!!
That was spiteful of Steven - and so dramatic. Good Lord dude, you're not saving lives. And you're probably only on your first. You made bank. Park the ego some.
Yep, Steven was a dick. Negotiations are always part of the den. Cheap drama!
I disagree with people saying Steven was necessarily not passionate about the business, I think he realized in that moment that the couple (mainly the wife, unfortunately) would be too difficult and naive to work with
I agree with Stephen, 20% sounded fair.. but unfortunately with Anushka, the deal went wooshka.
*poor Partner😢
They made a dog’s dinner out of the negotiations at the end. Silly sausages. Rrrruff.
That was very cringey. She should know not to snub dragons so blatently.
"It doesn't matter darling" Looks at her like he wishes she was dead lmao.....
Less than a minute in and I've already been sick
75% of something is better than 100% of nothing . Especialy if theres a dragon involved . . .
I don't love these newer pitches tbh, it's always social media this coffee that, tiktok this, much worse but slightly more sustainable alternative to everyday product that
What a tough lesson to have to learn from.
I feel the wife should learn from this, 20 was a good deal.
Yea and she wanted 10, the absolute gold digger
She should learn what? That Steven wasn't interested enough to negotiate, or that his ego was hurt by her counter offer?
Ooops. Someone's in the Dog House....
I’m going to twist this round. They are running a business where they are feeding dogs non nutritious food. I would never take my dog to one of their events. I care too much for her health.
What percentage does the dog get?
Greed… A deadly sin… Especially in business…💯
Why bring emotion to a business meeting in the first place?
So glad to be supporting you @notodogmeat
How TF is this a business? Let alone one they think is worth 300,000 quid.
Poor James.
Seriously, what's wrong with people.
Yeah, oopsie
This guy is like a character from a sitcom like him and her or something
Steven calls it a bet
Didn't think it was about betting!
To some degree it is.
Oh dear
That was just mean. Everyone has the right to negotiate.
They cocapood that up
when greed and high risk meet
Well a Chihuahua would had been convincing 😅.a Cafe to reduce their anger
Is the pug going to maul you? That is someone who has never dealt with a pug
07:30 Deborah have already said in the past that she hates when people humanizes pets, so I saw this coming
Someone will except Toukers offer one day..... maybe.
These sort of people really annoy me.
He let her take the blame! Sad man...He didn't step up and for that reason it was HIS FAULT- never mind the blame game...Truth be told!
Can you expand on what you mean by this?
It was her fault, of course she's to blame. TF you talking about? They both agreed on 15% drop after the investment is recouped but she got greedy.
Steven is a snake in the grass
Lol.. the lady ruined it..
Greedy and it backfired 😅
It does matter! she screwed it up
lol, she f-ed up, don't be greedy and change when you think you have the upper hand, especialy since she agreed with her partner on 15%....but then unilaterally decided to suggest 10%.
Theyre both delusional, genuinely delusional its embarrassing
Wait, a dog in a pram?
Really... 🥺
🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
It’s doesn’t matter, but it really does
Business with your partner never works and here is a prime example of why I say that.
These 2 are cringy. Flippin heck I wrote that before the end 😮. Times that by a 100
what a great man. hope his business is successful but his business partner should be removed
Huh? I think that's his wife, lol.
@@jack-a-lopium lol well she ruined their chances at investment
@@technoshaman001 Heheh, yup... massive oopsie, lol
@@jack-a-lopium I think he's an AI bot, they getting cleverer now, but you can tell by the NPC language
@@paulleadbeater480 Nice, he also has 400 videos on his profile with him on camera in most of them... so I'm going to say 'doubt' on that one, i'mma sub to him :D
Steven tried to punish them instead of negotiating....the woman had a foolish mouth
Even a, Any type of job wouldn't do it after what she done
Dog gone!
Behind close doors, I bet Anushka is a control freak and is abusive towards James.
JFC, are all modern dog owners this delulu? The lady had crazy eyes! If you want your dog to meet other dogs, just go outside!
That’s not a dog, ffs…
Yeah its clearly dolphin
Interesting, what is it you think that animal is?
That woman just emasculated that man in the first 20 seconds I’m guessing the rest doesn’t go too well 😂😂
my thoughts exactly :p
Pogs are never particularly well in the first place.
Anyone else notice Deborah had a knuckle buster for a ring
Pointless business
Crazy water 12
Silly lass
No one liked it really to be honest
The dragons have lost all credibility now. The BBC lost all theirs years ago
Why?
get a grip
Seriously how greedy can these dragons get, absolutely disgusting‼️‼️
I see the word "PUPUCHINO" 🤬🤮😩🙄 and a pug that has a litany of health ailments because they're bred for being "cute" and a fashion accessory. Makes me really f-king angry this kind of bs
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