@@ashishpatel350 technology is not a solution but a tool that gets irresponsibility used due to the tech bro mentality. The fact your brain couldn’t comprehend I meant government investment in public infrastructure like Japan, China, etc. is astounding considering the confidence you have in your condescension. Please go expand your knowledge base
@@masseiy technology makes humans more productive. The main reason public transportation in the US is worthless is because unions refuse to allow technology into the sector. Causing it to cost more than it should and be less efficient
@@ashishpatel350Interesting. I had not heard about that issue about the unions. This is the part I didn’t support from the writers’ strike. In my opinion, nobody should have the right to prevent technological advancement or adoption, as long as it doesn’t conflict with safety, health or environmental regulations. Income security should be addressed by other means. Where can I find more information about this opposition from the unions you mentioned?
happy to escape! So a taxi that has 5 seats but 2 doors. and a larger taxi with no ground clearance. we are on to you elon. Maybe you should try and get some advertisers back you told to f&^% off on X. down 30% in active users?? Smart guys aren't smart on everything and you are a creep.
Small correction on the robotaxi: it can only hold 2 people Which in itself is extremely concerning when it has less capacity than a normal car meaning traffic could get WORSE. You can’t even put a family with kids in one robotaxi. Truly “mass transit”
If you need more people you order a bigger car. Or take a bus (not a Tesla then). But the vast majority of taxi drives are 1-2 passengers, so smaller car is better for everyone. Now you need a 5 seat car to transport 2 passengers.
@@peter.g6 That doesn't make any sense . It's not the size of a smart car, it looks like a full size sedan. If the car is there to earn your money why would you design it to lose 20 to 30% of your possible market. Musk receive a ton of money from the government to build a $30000 electric vehicle and you could not do it. If he could do a $30000 electric vehicle why not just sell it as a normal car. how many people have $30000 to spare on another vehicle as opposed to $30000 for their primary vehicle. If so many people buy this car to generate money that's gonna saturate the market meaning each car is gonna earn less than musk's is claiming. One thing I haven't hear is how insurance companies are gonna handle this, cause I'm pretty sure you're normal private car insurance isn't gonna cover your car being a taxi.
Because they will operate the system and take a percentage while all expenses are on you (insurance, charging, cleaning, maintenance... and obviously the initial purchase of the car).
It seems like Elon Musk is genuinely confused why people don’t clap and lose their minds anymore when he talks. Like he appears to expect it and then he awkwardly says “no really” and it’s crickets. As if he can’t even see that he’s been lying for so long and nothing ever happens so people don’t believe him. He can’t be that self aware. It’s an interesting thing to watch.
I could laugh about Musk's awkwardness and lack of self-awareness, but the scary truth is that the bag of dicks will become Trump's right hand on the tech front if he becomes POTUS. Trump and Musk must be stopped. NOW.
I was wondering why he seems even MORE awkward at public speaking now. it really feels like he’s waiting for the applause and is totally thrown off by not constantly getting it
@@samsonsoturian6013Define "involved." By your definition, every CEO is involved with everything in a company. The only CEO to have come remotely close to that in our lifetime was Steve Jobs.
@@samsonsoturian6013 - Musk tweets on average once every 15-30 minutes more than most influencers and any other CEOs. He doesn't have the time to be directly involved in the R&D, especially after buying X. He also a notoriously bad programmer. This is most evident on the Twitter Space saying X needs to redo the network stack. When asked for specific examples, he just called them a jakc*ss. Musk is a C-Level Executive that only knows buzzwords.
Starting from March 2025 we shall all be using the Robotaxi to go through the nearest hyperloop directly to our personal Space X rocket dock-station in order to have lunch on Mars and get back in time to post the nightly Twitter reel while Optimus washes our feet and informs us on how our daily random investment on Quantum AI added us another million to our bank account.
And because the robotaxi is inductively charged, we will be able to charge our Neuralink at the same time. We truly live in the best possible timeline.
fully automated space communism! the ironic thing is the communists don’t realize that musk is a marxist leninist. they think he’s a nazi-the party that was utterly annihilated in WW2. 😂 they’re so stupid it boggles the mind. that’s because communists themselves don’t even understand communism and its true goals.
True Story: a friend in California lives next to a parking lot where some of these autonomous cars go to park themselves… the cars get confused and can’t park so they end up going in circles all night.
I can see a fun problem with autonomous electric cars. Many parts of major cities charge for parking. How much does it cost per hour to have a vehicle circle the block on a loop? Because if aimless wandering costs less than the parking fees, that's going to happen. Even if people just send their car back to their own driveway to save parking, you've still doubled the traffic burden from that car.
It's a religion...faith in tech and "the Future" which is really an aesthetic -ideological concept, not a period of time. If you allowed for human intervention, it shows you don't have faith; that you are a nonbeliever in Musk's holy vision
"Waymo or Cruise won't be caught off guard by any strange street signs or road markings because these have all been pre-mapped." This is literally the definition of being caught off guard. Any minor change / construction signage / temporary re-routing and the cars are now lost.
But there's no good solution. Pre-map? Then you miss out on last-minute changes. Real-time sign scanning? Unreliable. It's unreliable even for human drivers, who miss signs all the time. Some sort of universal real-time street map database? Good luck on getting every state and local traffic authority to cooperate on that one. In pure technology you can imagine hi-viz worker pullling out his tablet and marking that stretch of road as restricted for a time, but the political and administrative situation for coordinating all that is a nightmare. Remember that humans kind of suck at driving too. We're just used to it. It's seen as the cost of convenience. A thousand or so deaths each month in the US? Not even news any more. When the human misses the 'road closed' sign because it blew over in the wind and drives their car straight into an open trench at sixty miles an hour, that's just a thing that happens - unfortunately, but seen as unavoidable. For self-driving cars, for legal reasons, they have to be perfect. Far better than any human could be.
If it was just dependant on pre-mapped routes it wouldnt be a self driving car but a trolley. I imagine they pre-map it so that they can calculate the best route when faced with changes. Also things like changes in the traffic would give out such major changes on the road. Im not defending it as I think its a stupid idea but I dont agree with you.
It was so obvious, even from a few seconds of watching the robot to human interaction, that the robots were just remote controlled toys. The articulation was pretty impressive, especially with arm movements but there was no "AI". The voices were humans and I would have a bet that every single robot was human controlled. Normally you could just let this go as showmanship but as always Musk acts like it is all real and we are mere months away from being able to buy the robot as a complete product... which is nonsense.
Though if done well that could be a good product, remote controlled humanoid robots to go to places that are too dangerous for humans. But in their blind pursue of the AI grift I doubt they will see it that way.
@@zhuljens humanoid robots are terrible for that task. there is a reason why boston dynamics best selling robot is just a robot armature and the spots.
@@toomanyaccountsno they don’t have a humanoid good enough. Truth is no company is close to what Tesla showed on 10/10. The world is built for humans so a bot will need to be able to do what we can. It’s incredibly difficult but if any company can do this Tesla has the best shot maybe the only shot.
Compare that farce to Boston Dynamics Atlas-robot. Atlas was clearing obstacle courses and doing backflips. And that was three years ago. Meanwhile these clankers Elon cobbled up barely can walk a straight line.
It's very under reported how many of Waymo's accidents are caused by their vehicles being too conservative. They get hit by other drivers because they suddenly hard brake and stop for stupid things that no human driver would.
Human drivers delete 30,000 Americans a year and injure 3 million Americans a year. Human drivers are not a good judge of when to stop. If you hit a vehicle that hard brakes, you did not maintain a safe following distance.
Bruh the way the guy sells the robot is ridiculous - "I think this will be the greatest product ever" - if I ever heard that line from any salesman, I'm walking far in the other direction
Musk can throw sticks at Waymo and belittle their pre-mapping and geofencing, but when Tesla actually demonstrates their own fully automated vehicle, they limited it a private 20-30 acre geofenced 5mph ride on a pre-programmed, pre-mapped and heavily rehearsed route with no traffic and no pedestrians. As for the "Waymo were honking at each other for no reason" comment. Waymo had identified that a major cause of driven cars colliding with Waymo's fleet were cars reversing into the Waymo. So they introduced a warning honk. There is currently no Waymo to Waymo communications so the reason for the honking in the car park was not for "no reason" it was to try and prevent minor collisions. The "problem" was resolved through a software tweak to not honk when in Waymo parking lot and to also consider the time of day. There is also considerably more details regarding the Cruise fatality that suspended their operation, if there were a human driver involved it would probably not have even resulted in a prosecution. People talk about Tesla as though it is at the forefront of vehicle autonomy, when the reality is it has nothing that qualifies as an entry ticket.
there isn’t a single tesla “recall” that wasn’t done as an over the air software update. it’s crazy how disingenuous people are to teslas and how generous they are to competitors. nobody in their right mind would call a software update that happens overnight to a parked vehicle a “recall”. it’s pure smear. but waymo gets honesty there, eh? they also were many years ahead of market on release and oh yeah - they created the entire market demand and market going so far as to open source patents to achieve this. nothing remarkable or first gen about them and no entry ticket held by them is an absolutely hatred blind take. step back and check some easily verifiable facts.
Damn, I was hoping the cars were attempting to communicate as their communal co-operation leads to slowly awakening consciousness.. Great info however, thanks.
Waymo has had their share of problems, but it's always hilarious when Tesla fanboys try to shit on Waymo every time their vehicles make a mistake. My daily driver has that "full self driving" Tesla offers and I'd be impressed if it could handle my 15 minute commute to the office without screwing up. You don't see routine Tesla FSD mistakes making the news because they're not newsworthy, they're the default expectation.
Both Tesla and Waymo are both smoke and mirrors. Though Musk is "more" smoke and mirrors. I recall a few people months ago mentioning just a peculiar sight: Waymo vehicles driving back and forth for hours and hours in the same empty streets. Just now I realise what is going on, they too are trying to "fudge" aka rack up accident free mile statistics.
Drivers with autopilot enabled know that the AI is a dangerous driver and police it like a driving instructor, which also throws off stats. The stat is therefore the safety of the combination of autopilot plus attentive and engaged human driver.
Also, the human accident sample size is heavily skewed by a few idiots and new/old drivers. Most people in their prime don't even cause any accident for multiple years. If you want AI to be accepted by the government and mass population, it has to be safer than some1 with 0 accidents in 10 years. Not stats skewed by that local drunkard who causes like 3 accidents per month.
@@allhailderpfestor4839 "Also, the human accident sample size is heavily skewed by a few idiots and new/old driver" Statistics includes data on outliers.
Additionally, FSD miles skew much heavier on the highway, Tesla vehicles are newer than the average vehicle, and Tesla drivers are far less likely to be teenagers. These all heavily skew the data if you fail to normalize human crashes, which Tesla intentionally leaves out. Not to mention that "human crashes" include drunk, distracted, and fatigued drivers, which account for a significantly high percentage of human accidents, so FSD is also being compared against non-attentive drivers. With all this deception, it's not even able to achieve a statistical advantage of a single order of magnitude.
Right like how that Russian warlord found out with his cybertruck got bricked Even if Americans don't like that guy it should give you something to think about that they can turn your car off remotely without any advance warning
Just try driving in a big city without having a street plan. I recently drove someone to a medical appointment in Germany in a medium-sized city. The one-way system was a nightmare. You cannot just turn up without knowledge of where you are going.
Plus it makes no economic sense. You can buy a robo-cab that earns that fantastic return? Great. But then everyone else in your city does the same and good old competition kicks in, so you have to lower your prices to get business. Until everyone is just about breaking even. At that point the only viable robocab businesses are the large ones who can achieve economy of scale of vehicle maintenance, and they buy up all the smaller ones.
@@vylbird8014 yeah that's the same obvious red flag that multilevel marketing schemes have. If anyone can get rich off it, he'd just get enough competition to lose the ability to get rich. Another red flag is if you ask why Tesla wouldn't keep the cabs to themselves and then keep their enormous profits to themselves. If the cab pays for itself so quickly and then makes a huge profit, why would Tesla sell away their biggest money maker?
How dare you accuse them of using actors? There's a very deep bench of simps and sycophants who would eagerly clap and cheer if Husk dropped his pants and shit on the stage.
Biggest problem with self driving cars is, that they dont solve the actual problem of too many bloody cars on the road. They only make it worse. Cities should be build for humans and not for robo taxis. But try telling that to US city builders. God forbid you could actually walk from home to your work and have a supermarket, a doctor, child care and nursing home 2 bus stops, a playground and other basic amenities within 20 minutes of walking time. Sadly no such place exits in the world...oh wait.
If i had a Time Machine, I’d jump back to the past and make musk push a sleek and new idea “robo-train”. Fully autonomous pods, cheap contraction and maintainance. Thousands bay MILLIONS of passenger a day. Put it underground, put it at street level. Put it above the street. It doesn’t matter. Do you have to solve for every single street. No. You only have to solve for your truck. With that being said, robovan/bus is cool. If it makes Less people drive, that’s good.
If the places you need to go are within walking distance so is everyone you don't want to be near. I don't want to live in th middle of millions of people with drinks, druggies, prostitutes, police with guns, thugs, light and noise pollution. This is not a healthy place for humans.
My partner and I are both from different cities with waymo. The culture of messing with them by putting cones on the hood, and drawing chalk lines they can’t escape is growing.
So Musk stays LiDAR is too expensive. Honda Legend: The first car to be approved for SAE level 3 automated driving, the Legend uses Valeo LiDAR scanners. Mercedes-Benz S-Class: The second level 3-certified car, the S-Class uses Valeo SCALA™ Gen2 laser LiDAR technology. Volvo EX90: The EX90 comes standard with Luminar LiDAR. Ford self-driving cars: Ford's self-driving cars use LiDAR pulses to pinpoint their location on 3D maps in real time. Toyota: Toyota has integrated RoboSense LiDAR into its supply chain system
@@3blue123 Lidar now cost under 1000$ and continue falling. Too soon to say it not scalable. Musk also think they must build their own AI chip (Dojo) to train FSD. Turn out, Nvidia do it already.
I can also see the future. It is so clear. Every single person on the planet will own 10 robotaxis, and the robotaxis will drive around the 100 Optimus humanoid robots every single person will own as they go and do all of the planet’s work. What work is that, you say? Building more robots, of course.
Musk: Everyone of 8 billion people will want to have their Tesla buddy. People in poor countries: We don't have sewers, stable sources of electricity, Internet, educational system, food, clean water, and so on. But you know what? It doesn't matter! Tesla buddy is what we all waiting for! It might not solve any of our problems. Even worse - it'll die on the very first day of its operation due to lack of electricity. But at least our great meme lord Elon Musk will get his $30k. This is our wish we're willing to die for!
Elon will generously let them work it off in his factories, present it as a humanitarian project and will be praised by all his suspiciously faithful fans.
The whole point is the robots will lift even the poorest counties out of poverty. If you had skilled workers in every field working 24/7 every country will advance extremely fast.
@@jiggig ah yes... a $30k robot alone in a field in the middle of nowhere. no way will it get kidnapped. and definitely be easy to charge every hour when it runs out of batteries! do you musktards even have a brain?
And I'm supposed to give a damn. Sometimes I feel like people who live in SF genuinely believe they are the center of the universe. Whatever happened to public transit, anyway? I'm pretty sure that trolleys have been around for over 100 years and work perfectly well.
not if you're in a wheelchair, or blind, or have a couple of kids with you, are carrying something large... i don't drive. but i do know that a trolley with one bag of groceries is fine, two is annoying, and three really sucks.
The trolleys don't work perfectly fine...... They provide inefficient transportation to a small portion of the city. The trolleys in San Francisco only exist because they are a tourist trap. The majority of people on them are tourists. Riding the cable cars a couple blocks costs more than a going back of forth to Oakland on the BART
Since January 2021, Tesla stock has functionally been flat. On December 31, 2020 it was 235.20 Now it's 220.08. In that same period, the S&P500 has gone up 60%.
Casually ignore the fact that the entire S&P500 index is being held up by the magnificent 7 stocks. Even the Russell 2000 is below its 2021 high. It's not just tesla stock. Most of the economy is garbage.
two seater like sports car, shaped like one too, not very friendly for users to get in and out. overall not very well thought out for something made to be a transport. all show no substance.
Someone should ask the "AI" robot an obscure request, a complicated math problem, or something massive like reciting random book chapters that would truly show it was real AI and no person could come up with.
At what point will can you consider the CEO a failed one, considering all his announcements and statements are simply ignored or plain laughed at. Imagine being a product manager launching something that never gets delivered in time, at what point will you lose your job?
Technically speaking, a CEO of a publicly traded company's one and only job is increasing shareholder value. He has achieved insane valuations beyond anything that could have been achieved with realism and honestly with his antics, so he is a successful CEO. He's the logical conclusion of what our "market driven" economic system demands.
@@electrified0 He also recently "STOLE" over $500 million worth of GPUs from Tesla and gave it to his other companies (X, xAI) Thanks not ok. Technically speaking, any CEO of a publicly traded company who steals from shareholders should be fired and charged with Grand Larceny.
I'm pretty shocked at his failures this week. You are programmed lmfao.. His companies are building the biggest supercomputer in the world with even NVIDIA's CEO praising them, caught a rocket in mid air, deliver by far the most satellites to space, are dominant in the EV space, the industry failures keep stacking I see...
@@untyrhallsprung569 People never learn. Once robotaxis are roaming the streets focus will shift to the next thing that will never happen. Crazy that this has happened so many times already and people still dont see it, and only focus on what ever has not happened yet.
@@untyrhallsprung569 Creating more problems than it solves and they still don't know how to get passengers and cargo down from Starship if it ever lands on anything. They put a cart with square wheels before the horse. Keep giving him money though.
I can't imagine how it would work without a steering wheel here in Michigan right after a snow storm or trying to make a left turn in Manhattan during the middle of the day with pedestrians everywhere.
I saw a video of it working pretty well in a parking lot full of pedestrians. Who knows when the car will actually be delivered though as Musk is terrible with promises.
Elon s proposition is illogical, that is why the final product will have a steering wheel, even if it's some type of retractable yoke when operating in FSD. Nobody will buy a car that they can't use in case of an emergency situation or simply choose to drive if not rented or shared. Companies like Uber don't have an incentive to buy, they would be changing bussines model and take aditional liability in case of a crash.
By the 2030s there will be robocars that can drive anywhere, including in the snow. Waymo pretty much has it solved now. You can't imagine it, but it's basically a solved problem. Next is about scaling and making it cheap, and 100x safer than human drivers, then 1000x safer, ...
For the time being, the thought of these Robotaxis’ out there on the streets, legally owned by some LLC, with state minimum insurance, just scares the hell out of me.
If these robotaxis were so great, why would they still sell cars? They could just release these in the roads and collect money. Very telling that they don’t seem to want to manage/assume the risk of a robotaxi fleet.
Lol why? People are so weird. The thought that regular people drive scare me a lot more. Have you seen how stupid people are? There's a reason driving is one of the most dangerous things you can do. And when there's a bad driver, everything you do to that bad driver only effects them. It doesn't do anything for the second bad driver. But a bad robotaxi? If one messes up, the company can fix them all. Imagine how different our world would be if we can "update" all the stupid people. I can't wait until AI drivers are the majority of the road. Keeps you crazy people further away from me.
@@oopswanstme.6208 Well, they both probably have jobs or careers that don't involve peddling BS. I love it when Elon stans use this argument. It's like you can't criticize Elon Musk because you're not as rich as him, even though he essentially got lucky by heavily investing in Tesla when it was becoming popular. As I always say, you can be financially rich but also morally bankrupt.
In regards to driverless crash data, there’s a snapshot button anyone can press to send data back to Tesla if the car does something wrong, however, Teslas are also known to disengage self driving when a crash is imminent in order to be able to say it wasn’t turned on at the time.
Living in SF we see Waymo's self-driving around all day long, it's still a bit strange but they're everywhere, and tbh they seem to work pretty well; obvs they're not perfect (and of course people mock them when they get stuck etc) but the technology is impressive and functional. What is strange about Waymo is the pricing - usually more expensive than Lyft or Uber, and not as useful (Waymo's often won't pick you up or drop you off exactly where you want); obviously the pricing can be easily changed but for them to knowingly overprice it in this marketplace is a little strange
The price is a huge red flag in the robotaxi business model. Rideshare drivers are paid next to nothing when accounting for hidden costs like vehicle wear and insurance. The majority of your fare is not driver pay and Uber is famously unprofitable, so the numbers simply do not add up when you try and compete with a dominant player burning money by cutting out what is ultimately a minor expense.
8 years the posts were full of Elon fans saying he was right, he had vision and he was the greatest business man in history. Those voices seem to have almost faded away to nothing.
I think it should be clear to everyone that Teslas can obviously drive themselves for a very very long time, very well without human intervention. The idea that it will not be unsupervised in our lifetimes is rediculous. Especially with the rapid advancement of A.I.
Space Karen has put all his wealth and influence behind Trump, and Trump has said he'll get rid of all rules and regulations. This should be very scary to anyone who believes totally autonomous driving will be a reality.
There are two major issues with their proposal. First off if it is a money make then wall street and private equity will buy them all up and second a true robo taxi to be useful would look more like a Honda Element with ease of entry and exit but instead Tesla focused on form over function which they did with the X and Cybertruck. It is certainly not disabled friendly or for anyone with limited mobility.
If there were Golden Raspberry Awards to honour corporate vapour ware and business failures, Musk would be on every sane person's prediction card. Year after year.
World's best selling EV maker. World's most prolific space cargo transport. World's fastest brain interface bandwidth device. You stand by your statement?
@@John-fz3ij they beat them temporarily, but Tesla took the lead again last quarter of 2023 if I recall. Even so, how does this qualify as 'Golden Raspberry Awards' material?
@@John-fz3ij And for what it's worth. I just see BYD beating Tesla in 2023 if and only if you include hybrid vehicles, which is something Tesla doesn't promote or manufacture.
Many cut their loss, more will keep figuring it out. The stupidity is people for some reason think on of this can be eventually done without him. Which is completely absurd.
@@BoxiesAU the problem was harder to solve than anticipated… hence why no one else is doing it in a meaningful way besides waymo. FSDs latest version is insanely good. But by all mean, hate away, that’s likely all you know.
This will never come out or if it does, it will be years late, cost substantially more than promised and will be severely restricted in where it can be used. I really don't understand how a publicly traded company can get away with blatantly lying to shareholders like this so often.
As much as I love my tesla, musk is falling into the same trap that roomba did with not opting for lidar and relying on cameras. Over time lidar prices will fall as demand picks up. Obviously lidar equipped cars will perform better than camera only cars.
LIDAR is perfect for robotic vacuums, since they are in controlled environments, but try putting 10 or 20 of them in the same room. Active ranging (like LIDAR, RADAR or ultrasonics.) can't scale, there is always a point where the environment is too "noisy", regardless of techniques to reduce interference. Because the transmissions of any time-of-flight device are only useful for that individual device. Where-as passive techniques like vision/camera can scale infinitely, because some spectrum of light already exists in most environments, and light from one device is generally useful for other devices. LIDAR can only scale with vehicle-to-vehicle and vehicle-to-infrastructure communication, aka, in controlled environments.
Just because someone doesn't hate musk doesn't make him a sycophant. That's like saying a European person is racist if they oppose the disappearance of Europeans.
I still say Tesla should have rolled that RoboVan straight to the center of studio town and opened the doors to reveal 20 Optimus Robots walking out and jointly making some memorable statement like “We are the future, you are the past”! Definitely a missed opportunity for an “iRobot” moment or Apple 1984 Orwellian TV ad flashback!
For Waymo, we do not know how often a teleoperator intervenes for the vehicle quietly. It does happen. There have been mainstream media stories about it. We just don’t know how much.
The Optimus bartenders (and probably a lot of the taxis) were definitely being controlled by someone, to create the illusion of automation. 13:30 basically what this human was saying. If he says it might be some then it is definitely a lot. If it was only a supervisor they would say none.
Tesla has delivered on a lot of car models. Every step of the way, critics say that each car model would be another flop or “the competition is coming” Robo taxi will be Tesla most risky project, but even if full autonomy is not achieved, Tesla’s developing a new manufacturing process for cars that should dramatically lower the cost. Even if Rotax is a flop, they may have a very good low-cost EV.
For "dramatically lowering the cost" I read "skip on quality control and the like" - like how CyberTrucks catch on fire in flooding because water leaks in from bad isolation.
My Model 3 on FSD takes me from my driveway to wherever I need to go (except for the actual parking at destination). I use FSD 95 % and have not had a single instance of having to disengage for safety reasons in maybe two years. You can dislike their robotaxi vehicle but I don’t see how you can disregard FSD. It’s here. And it works.
I love how people are doing everything to avoid investing in robust public transit
Like convincing people to invest in an LED death tunnel that pulls you in a Tesla along a narrow track.
@@masseiy yeah he should try to fully automate that. You'd think that would be significantly easier
@@ashishpatel350 technology is not a solution but a tool that gets irresponsibility used due to the tech bro mentality. The fact your brain couldn’t comprehend I meant government investment in public infrastructure like Japan, China, etc. is astounding considering the confidence you have in your condescension. Please go expand your knowledge base
@@masseiy technology makes humans more productive. The main reason public transportation in the US is worthless is because unions refuse to allow technology into the sector. Causing it to cost more than it should and be less efficient
@@ashishpatel350Interesting. I had not heard about that issue about the unions. This is the part I didn’t support from the writers’ strike. In my opinion, nobody should have the right to prevent technological advancement or adoption, as long as it doesn’t conflict with safety, health or environmental regulations. Income security should be addressed by other means.
Where can I find more information about this opposition from the unions you mentioned?
Man look at those 14 happy people getting out of a BUS.
It reminds me of the time when China tried to convince the world they had invented trackless trains lmfao
It looks like they were shocked that they were able to get out
They are happy because they managed to get out alive.
happy to escape! So a taxi that has 5 seats but 2 doors. and a larger taxi with no ground clearance. we are on to you elon. Maybe you should try and get some advertisers back you told to f&^% off on X. down 30% in active users?? Smart guys aren't smart on everything and you are a creep.
It’s a clean bus. Americans probably never seen one of such condition
Small correction on the robotaxi: it can only hold 2 people
Which in itself is extremely concerning when it has less capacity than a normal car meaning traffic could get WORSE. You can’t even put a family with kids in one robotaxi. Truly “mass transit”
If you need more people you order a bigger car. Or take a bus (not a Tesla then). But the vast majority of taxi drives are 1-2 passengers, so smaller car is better for everyone. Now you need a 5 seat car to transport 2 passengers.
@@peter.g6 That doesn't make any sense . It's not the size of a smart car, it looks like a full size sedan. If the car is there to earn your money why would you design it to lose 20 to 30% of your possible market. Musk receive a ton of money from the government to build a $30000 electric vehicle and you could not do it. If he could do a $30000 electric vehicle why not just sell it as a normal car. how many people have $30000 to spare on another vehicle as opposed to $30000 for their primary vehicle. If so many people buy this car to generate money that's gonna saturate the market meaning each car is gonna earn less than musk's is claiming. One thing I haven't hear is how insurance companies are gonna handle this, cause I'm pretty sure you're normal private car insurance isn't gonna cover your car being a taxi.
@@nfchance76 "Musk receive a ton of money from the government to build a $30000 electric vehicle"
What are you talking about?
@@nfchance76 As for insurance, Tesla is already providing insurance in many states.
@@peter.g6 Tesla has recieved billions in government grants, this is well known don't pretend that you've never heard of it.
If buying a robotaxi is such a great deal, why are they selling them? Why not operate the fleets themselves or subcontracted?
exactly! its just bs
Precisely.
because they dont work
Great point
Because they will operate the system and take a percentage while all expenses are on you (insurance, charging, cleaning, maintenance... and obviously the initial purchase of the car).
It seems like Elon Musk is genuinely confused why people don’t clap and lose their minds anymore when he talks. Like he appears to expect it and then he awkwardly says “no really” and it’s crickets. As if he can’t even see that he’s been lying for so long and nothing ever happens so people don’t believe him. He can’t be that self aware. It’s an interesting thing to watch.
I could laugh about Musk's awkwardness and lack of self-awareness, but the scary truth is that the bag of dicks will become Trump's right hand on the tech front if he becomes POTUS. Trump and Musk must be stopped. NOW.
What an observation. Seems legit
The emperor has no clothes. The self proclaimed Iron Man turned out to be a Tin Man at best. Lol. With no heart of course.
I was wondering why he seems even MORE awkward at public speaking now. it really feels like he’s waiting for the applause and is totally thrown off by not constantly getting it
He wants to be Steve so bad 🤣🤣
Everything is a "solved problem" when you're not the one who actually has to solve the problem.
He's been directly involved in R&D the whole time. He would later remark the whole thing is much more complicated than anyone at Tesla thought
@@samsonsoturian6013hahaha yeah he helped design the styling of the charging port
@@samsonsoturian6013With his Bachelor in Arts degree or his Bachelor of Science in Economics degree?
@@samsonsoturian6013Define "involved." By your definition, every CEO is involved with everything in a company. The only CEO to have come remotely close to that in our lifetime was Steve Jobs.
@@samsonsoturian6013 - Musk tweets on average once every 15-30 minutes more than most influencers and any other CEOs. He doesn't have the time to be directly involved in the R&D, especially after buying X. He also a notoriously bad programmer. This is most evident on the Twitter Space saying X needs to redo the network stack. When asked for specific examples, he just called them a jakc*ss. Musk is a C-Level Executive that only knows buzzwords.
Starting from March 2025 we shall all be using the Robotaxi to go through the nearest hyperloop directly to our personal Space X rocket dock-station in order to have lunch on Mars and get back in time to post the nightly Twitter reel while Optimus washes our feet and informs us on how our daily random investment on Quantum AI added us another million to our bank account.
And because the robotaxi is inductively charged, we will be able to charge our Neuralink at the same time. We truly live in the best possible timeline.
fully automated space communism!
the ironic thing is the communists don’t realize that musk is a marxist leninist. they think he’s a nazi-the party that was utterly annihilated in WW2. 😂 they’re so stupid it boggles the mind.
that’s because communists themselves don’t even understand communism and its true goals.
It's "X", not "Twitter"! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Not 2025. Musk ODOR said it next week!
Also, you can own a fleet of these super cheap robot taxis and have them make you money while you’re on Mars.
The first rule of predictions is to make them far enough out that you can't be proven wrong right away, Musk broke that rule...
Space Karen is not as smart as he thinks he is.
True Story: a friend in California lives next to a parking lot where some of these autonomous cars go to park themselves… the cars get confused and can’t park so they end up going in circles all night.
I can see a fun problem with autonomous electric cars. Many parts of major cities charge for parking. How much does it cost per hour to have a vehicle circle the block on a loop? Because if aimless wandering costs less than the parking fees, that's going to happen. Even if people just send their car back to their own driveway to save parking, you've still doubled the traffic burden from that car.
I really want to see a video of this
Not even Steve Jobs ever called any of his products "the biggest product of any kind." And he had some truly impactful products!
Hype man needs to sell more Tesla stock
of course he does. TSLA is there to fund the dream of dying on mars.
Nailed it.
@@AlexanderTheGoodEnoughI thought that’s what starlink was for???
@@TheWizardGamez that's just to broadcast his passing. Certainly part of the equation, since it will outlast his car company.
@@AlexanderTheGoodEnoughGreat name Alexander 😁
The fact you cant override the car in case of a catastrophic failure ... Is very worrying
Lawyers are salivating over that.
Just think if some robbers stand in front of it and you cannot escape. Just give them your money ;-)
@@gloofisearch cbdc
It's a religion...faith in tech and "the Future" which is really an aesthetic -ideological concept, not a period of time. If you allowed for human intervention, it shows you don't have faith; that you are a nonbeliever in Musk's holy vision
@@gloofisearch How common is that?
How is he able to make these claims as CEO of the company? Elisabeth Holmes went to jail, and he is still doing what she did.
She didnt make enough political contribution i guess ...
Elizabeth Holmes was broke when she got charged. Musk is still wealthy.
Poor people go to jail, rich people pay a fine.
THANK YOU!!!!!
You are CLUELESS... Cant wait until you eat your words Foooooool !
Too big to fail?
For a smart guy it’s odd that Musk never learned the best sales strategy is to underpromise and overdeliver. He keeps doing the opposite.
Because he's not actually smart. He's good at marketing, but that's about the extent of his skills.
@@grimwaltzman was good at marketing not to nitpick but...
Took people a long time to notice.
He’s not smart 🤦♀️
He's not a smart guy
"Waymo or Cruise won't be caught off guard by any strange street signs or road markings because these have all been pre-mapped."
This is literally the definition of being caught off guard. Any minor change / construction signage / temporary re-routing and the cars are now lost.
But there's no good solution.
Pre-map? Then you miss out on last-minute changes.
Real-time sign scanning? Unreliable. It's unreliable even for human drivers, who miss signs all the time.
Some sort of universal real-time street map database? Good luck on getting every state and local traffic authority to cooperate on that one. In pure technology you can imagine hi-viz worker pullling out his tablet and marking that stretch of road as restricted for a time, but the political and administrative situation for coordinating all that is a nightmare.
Remember that humans kind of suck at driving too. We're just used to it. It's seen as the cost of convenience. A thousand or so deaths each month in the US? Not even news any more. When the human misses the 'road closed' sign because it blew over in the wind and drives their car straight into an open trench at sixty miles an hour, that's just a thing that happens - unfortunately, but seen as unavoidable. For self-driving cars, for legal reasons, they have to be perfect. Far better than any human could be.
You can have route pre mapped and then look for changes in the data and apply some computational power to solve just that change.
they just dont drive using pre mapped route alone. they just pre mapped data plus real time data from their cameras and lidar sensors
If it was just dependant on pre-mapped routes it wouldnt be a self driving car but a trolley. I imagine they pre-map it so that they can calculate the best route when faced with changes. Also things like changes in the traffic would give out such major changes on the road. Im not defending it as I think its a stupid idea but I dont agree with you.
Even bullshit is tired of his bullshit
He has a cult followers, I mean his investor handed him 50 billion.
what have you done this week ? or this year ? clown
Excellent reply..seriously!
Elon is Helping the Saudis and hedge funds pump and dump Tesla shares
He is being sued over his redefining of genius
It was so obvious, even from a few seconds of watching the robot to human interaction, that the robots were just remote controlled toys. The articulation was pretty impressive, especially with arm movements but there was no "AI". The voices were humans and I would have a bet that every single robot was human controlled. Normally you could just let this go as showmanship but as always Musk acts like it is all real and we are mere months away from being able to buy the robot as a complete product... which is nonsense.
I think there a real person inside that "Robot"!
Boston robotics has been making far more complex robots for decades. I’m not impressed with optimus whatsoever.
Though if done well that could be a good product, remote controlled humanoid robots to go to places that are too dangerous for humans. But in their blind pursue of the AI grift I doubt they will see it that way.
@@zhuljens humanoid robots are terrible for that task. there is a reason why boston dynamics best selling robot is just a robot armature and the spots.
@@toomanyaccountsno they don’t have a humanoid good enough. Truth is no company is close to what Tesla showed on 10/10. The world is built for humans so a bot will need to be able to do what we can. It’s incredibly difficult but if any company can do this Tesla has the best shot maybe the only shot.
Deceit of Theranos proportions!!
Using remote-controlled humanoid robots is on another level, especially for a publicly traded company.
I’m pretty sure when they said human controlled it’s actually just a human cosplaying
Compare that farce to Boston Dynamics Atlas-robot. Atlas was clearing obstacle courses and doing backflips. And that was three years ago.
Meanwhile these clankers Elon cobbled up barely can walk a straight line.
Not to mention Musk's cult member absolute baboons believing that those geriatric robots were actually sentient.
Tesla is a lot bigger than Tharanos ever was. The deceit is 10 to 100 times the scale.
Well that is still better than a human in a robot suit.😂😂😂
It's very under reported how many of Waymo's accidents are caused by their vehicles being too conservative. They get hit by other drivers because they suddenly hard brake and stop for stupid things that no human driver would.
Human drivers delete 30,000 Americans a year and injure 3 million Americans a year. Human drivers are not a good judge of when to stop. If you hit a vehicle that hard brakes, you did not maintain a safe following distance.
Bruh the way the guy sells the robot is ridiculous - "I think this will be the greatest product ever" - if I ever heard that line from any salesman, I'm walking far in the other direction
Musk can throw sticks at Waymo and belittle their pre-mapping and geofencing, but when Tesla actually demonstrates their own fully automated vehicle, they limited it a private 20-30 acre geofenced 5mph ride on a pre-programmed, pre-mapped and heavily rehearsed route with no traffic and no pedestrians.
As for the "Waymo were honking at each other for no reason" comment. Waymo had identified that a major cause of driven cars colliding with Waymo's fleet were cars reversing into the Waymo. So they introduced a warning honk. There is currently no Waymo to Waymo communications so the reason for the honking in the car park was not for "no reason" it was to try and prevent minor collisions. The "problem" was resolved through a software tweak to not honk when in Waymo parking lot and to also consider the time of day.
There is also considerably more details regarding the Cruise fatality that suspended their operation, if there were a human driver involved it would probably not have even resulted in a prosecution.
People talk about Tesla as though it is at the forefront of vehicle autonomy, when the reality is it has nothing that qualifies as an entry ticket.
there isn’t a single tesla “recall” that wasn’t done as an over the air software update. it’s crazy how disingenuous people are to teslas and how generous they are to competitors. nobody in their right mind would call a software update that happens overnight to a parked vehicle a “recall”. it’s pure smear. but waymo gets honesty there, eh?
they also were many years ahead of market on release and oh yeah - they created the entire market demand and market going so far as to open source patents to achieve this. nothing remarkable or first gen about them and no entry ticket held by them is an absolutely hatred blind take. step back and check some easily verifiable facts.
Damn, I was hoping the cars were attempting to communicate as their communal co-operation leads to slowly awakening consciousness.. Great info however, thanks.
@@dsneinI'm too lazy to check it out, but with such a poor build quality I found your claim a bit dubious..
Waymo has had their share of problems, but it's always hilarious when Tesla fanboys try to shit on Waymo every time their vehicles make a mistake. My daily driver has that "full self driving" Tesla offers and I'd be impressed if it could handle my 15 minute commute to the office without screwing up. You don't see routine Tesla FSD mistakes making the news because they're not newsworthy, they're the default expectation.
Both Tesla and Waymo are both smoke and mirrors. Though Musk is "more" smoke and mirrors. I recall a few people months ago mentioning just a peculiar sight: Waymo vehicles driving back and forth for hours and hours in the same empty streets. Just now I realise what is going on, they too are trying to "fudge" aka rack up accident free mile statistics.
Drivers with autopilot enabled know that the AI is a dangerous driver and police it like a driving instructor, which also throws off stats. The stat is therefore the safety of the combination of autopilot plus attentive and engaged human driver.
That sounds more exhausting than simply driving..
Also, the human accident sample size is heavily skewed by a few idiots and new/old drivers. Most people in their prime don't even cause any accident for multiple years. If you want AI to be accepted by the government and mass population, it has to be safer than some1 with 0 accidents in 10 years. Not stats skewed by that local drunkard who causes like 3 accidents per month.
@@allhailderpfestor4839 "Also, the human accident sample size is heavily skewed by a few idiots and new/old driver" Statistics includes data on outliers.
Additionally, FSD miles skew much heavier on the highway, Tesla vehicles are newer than the average vehicle, and Tesla drivers are far less likely to be teenagers. These all heavily skew the data if you fail to normalize human crashes, which Tesla intentionally leaves out. Not to mention that "human crashes" include drunk, distracted, and fatigued drivers, which account for a significantly high percentage of human accidents, so FSD is also being compared against non-attentive drivers. With all this deception, it's not even able to achieve a statistical advantage of a single order of magnitude.
Tesla Autonomous FSD has accident rate of 13% of that a human driver.
When it comes to autonomy, remember the golden rule “ keep it simple keep it dumb or you’ll end up under Skynet’s thumb”
Right like how that Russian warlord found out with his cybertruck got bricked Even if Americans don't like that guy it should give you something to think about that they can turn your car off remotely without any advance warning
Lets not forget also that the more complex a system is the more likely it will have glitches and bugs. Those WILL be deadly on the road
Naive people hated innovation & creativity
@@Blackadam-c9q If your innovation makes things more complicated then its a bad innovation
Just try driving in a big city without having a street plan. I recently drove someone to a medical appointment in Germany in a medium-sized city. The one-way system was a nightmare. You cannot just turn up without knowledge of where you are going.
A pipe dream like all previous Tesla stock grabs that never materialized: cylindrical batteries, Model 3, Model Y, Cybertruck, oh... wait...
The idea that everyone on earth could afford a $100,000 robot toy is just so laughable, you would have to be insane to suggest it
Or you would have to have an ulterior motive. The product isn't the robots, it's the hopeium that pumps the stock price.
Plus it makes no economic sense. You can buy a robo-cab that earns that fantastic return? Great. But then everyone else in your city does the same and good old competition kicks in, so you have to lower your prices to get business. Until everyone is just about breaking even. At that point the only viable robocab businesses are the large ones who can achieve economy of scale of vehicle maintenance, and they buy up all the smaller ones.
@@vylbird8014 yeah that's the same obvious red flag that multilevel marketing schemes have. If anyone can get rich off it, he'd just get enough competition to lose the ability to get rich. Another red flag is if you ask why Tesla wouldn't keep the cabs to themselves and then keep their enormous profits to themselves. If the cab pays for itself so quickly and then makes a huge profit, why would Tesla sell away their biggest money maker?
Not even the actors paid to clap and cheer believe the robotaxi will cost $30000 or that it will be around in 2026.
How dare you accuse them of using actors? There's a very deep bench of simps and sycophants who would eagerly clap and cheer if Husk dropped his pants and shit on the stage.
Biggest problem with self driving cars is, that they dont solve the actual problem of too many bloody cars on the road. They only make it worse. Cities should be build for humans and not for robo taxis. But try telling that to US city builders. God forbid you could actually walk from home to your work and have a supermarket, a doctor, child care and nursing home 2 bus stops, a playground and other basic amenities within 20 minutes of walking time. Sadly no such place exits in the world...oh wait.
If i had a Time Machine, I’d jump back to the past and make musk push a sleek and new idea “robo-train”. Fully autonomous pods, cheap contraction and maintainance. Thousands bay MILLIONS of passenger a day. Put it underground, put it at street level. Put it above the street. It doesn’t matter. Do you have to solve for every single street. No. You only have to solve for your truck. With that being said, robovan/bus is cool. If it makes Less people drive, that’s good.
Then you'll love 15 minute cities. Just try to leave them though...
If the places you need to go are within walking distance so is everyone you don't want to be near. I don't want to live in th middle of millions of people with drinks, druggies, prostitutes, police with guns, thugs, light and noise pollution. This is not a healthy place for humans.
They only solve the problem of Uber and Lyft needing to pay drivers. That’s it.
Move to Europe.
the old saying is always wise ..........."if it sounds too good to be true it probably is "
My partner and I are both from different cities with waymo. The culture of messing with them by putting cones on the hood, and drawing chalk lines they can’t escape is growing.
The solution will be a complex technology adding weight and cost, which the pranksters will overcome by using a different color chalk.
It's not a pipe dream. It's a grift.
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@@samsonsoturian6013 My brother. Do you understand the meaning of grift?
@@samsonsoturian6013Because he pointed out, that Elon is con-man, rather than a dreamer?
Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between the delusional and the fraud.
But with Elon Musk it's easy. He's both.
Nah I think he believes his bullshit
So Musk stays LiDAR is too expensive.
Honda Legend: The first car to be approved for SAE level 3 automated driving, the Legend uses Valeo LiDAR scanners.
Mercedes-Benz S-Class: The second level 3-certified car, the S-Class uses Valeo SCALA™ Gen2 laser LiDAR technology.
Volvo EX90: The EX90 comes standard with Luminar LiDAR.
Ford self-driving cars: Ford's self-driving cars use LiDAR pulses to pinpoint their location on 3D maps in real time.
Toyota: Toyota has integrated RoboSense LiDAR into its supply chain system
Tesla bought a shit ton of LiDAR this year. It’s coming. Idk how it’s gonna fit in with the Tesla sleek and modern design model
@@TheWizardGamez source? they are not stupid. so no they will not use Lidar. lidar is not scalable.
@@TheWizardGamezIt wasn’t really all that much, and is used on vehicles that they use for mapping and generating training data.
@@3blue123 Lidar now cost under 1000$ and continue falling. Too soon to say it not scalable. Musk also think they must build their own AI chip (Dojo) to train FSD. Turn out, Nvidia do it already.
@@Milistop1872 yes and they train it on vision not lidar.
Smartest used car salesman AND carnival barker on the planet. Wait until he gets to Mars. 😂
Off topic: Is the narration computer generated? Sounds weird.
Fake x
@@sunsetlights100 Sandy Munro is so up in there so to speak.
@@iu2 Don't think so
How many volunteers would want jump on that "experimental" rocket?
I can also see the future. It is so clear. Every single person on the planet will own 10 robotaxis, and the robotaxis will drive around the 100 Optimus humanoid robots every single person will own as they go and do all of the planet’s work. What work is that, you say? Building more robots, of course.
The taxi-fare based economy of the future, how could anybody doubt its inevitability?!?!?
Tech bros always think they’re so smart but they just keep reinventing public transit, so how about we just invest in public transit instead
Musk: Everyone of 8 billion people will want to have their Tesla buddy.
People in poor countries: We don't have sewers, stable sources of electricity, Internet, educational system, food, clean water, and so on. But you know what? It doesn't matter! Tesla buddy is what we all waiting for! It might not solve any of our problems. Even worse - it'll die on the very first day of its operation due to lack of electricity. But at least our great meme lord Elon Musk will get his $30k. This is our wish we're willing to die for!
Elon will generously let them work it off in his factories, present it as a humanitarian project and will be praised by all his suspiciously faithful fans.
The whole point is the robots will lift even the poorest counties out of poverty.
If you had skilled workers in every field working 24/7 every country will advance extremely fast.
@@jiggig How are they paying if you just took everyone's jobs away?
@@jiggigyou still don't understand the free market? They are poor so we can be rich.
@@jiggig ah yes... a $30k robot alone in a field in the middle of nowhere. no way will it get kidnapped. and definitely be easy to charge every hour when it runs out of batteries! do you musktards even have a brain?
lets replace a guy who works for 7$ an hour with a team of engineers and a car that costs as much as a Ferrari.
This is the “future”, have work that can be done by humans replaced by computer systems that cost several times more!
Ferraris cost 30 grand?
@@vercopolis a ferrari with no engine
@@vercopoliswaymos and cruises are estimated to cost 200k-300k to build is what I believe they were referencing
I want a 30k Ferrari. Hell ya!
And I'm supposed to give a damn. Sometimes I feel like people who live in SF genuinely believe they are the center of the universe. Whatever happened to public transit, anyway? I'm pretty sure that trolleys have been around for over 100 years and work perfectly well.
Musk has a personal vendetta against public transport. That's the point of this BS.
A taxi fulfills a different purpose to public transit
not if you're in a wheelchair, or blind, or have a couple of kids with you, are carrying something large... i don't drive. but i do know that a trolley with one bag of groceries is fine, two is annoying, and three really sucks.
The trolleys don't work perfectly fine......
They provide inefficient transportation to a small portion of the city.
The trolleys in San Francisco only exist because they are a tourist trap.
The majority of people on them are tourists. Riding the cable cars a couple blocks costs more than a going back of forth to Oakland on the BART
Transit doesn't take you where you want to go, when you want to get there. Not hard to understand.
Since January 2021, Tesla stock has functionally been flat. On December 31, 2020 it was 235.20 Now it's 220.08. In that same period, the S&P500 has gone up 60%.
Casually ignore the fact that the entire S&P500 index is being held up by the magnificent 7 stocks.
Even the Russell 2000 is below its 2021 high.
It's not just tesla stock. Most of the economy is garbage.
Glad to see you call out Elon Musk's bullshit and lies.
mistake at 1:05 you say the cybercab is a 5 seat sedan it is two seats
Beat me to it. 2 seats might do for a taxi but few people will want that for a personal car, for which this thing is meant to serve as well.
That's the problem of being against something, you rush to get the message and not check mistakes.
2 seats in a 5 seat footprint.
two seater like sports car, shaped like one too, not very friendly for users to get in and out. overall not very well thought out for something made to be a transport. all show no substance.
@@bonganidavidbaloyi8497 This mistake was in Teslas favor, that's the problem of being against something, you rush to comment without understanding.
Neither smoke machine nor mirror machine was operational on that day.
Coming from someone who has done nothing in life 😂
@@cougar2013Better than doing something to scam people
Ofcourse you do this at a film set, the entire thing is fiction anyway.
😂😂😂😂
Just like re useable rockets too?
Yes, and the Cybertruck will never be produced.
Yeah very controlled environment. And well rehearsed.
Have you used FSD? If not, please stay quiet until you do.
Really good observations, thank you for the video. Even if they want to do it without Lidar doesn't mean they shouldn't use it in early models
Someone should ask the "AI" robot an obscure request, a complicated math problem, or something massive like reciting random book chapters that would truly show it was real AI and no person could come up with.
It's encouraging to see the general public waking up to Elon Musk. No doubt an optimistic futurist, but he needs to keep his mouth shut more often.
Amen 🙏
He needs to lie and mislead less often.
"an optimistic futurist" more like dystopian scam artist.
Yes him shutting up would be awesome.
What did Deadpool call it? "An educated wish".
At what point will can you consider the CEO a failed one, considering all his announcements and statements are simply ignored or plain laughed at. Imagine being a product manager launching something that never gets delivered in time, at what point will you lose your job?
Yet he got bonus equal to 10 000$ for every car they ever sold.. seems fine..
Technically speaking, a CEO of a publicly traded company's one and only job is increasing shareholder value. He has achieved insane valuations beyond anything that could have been achieved with realism and honestly with his antics, so he is a successful CEO. He's the logical conclusion of what our "market driven" economic system demands.
@@electrified0
He also recently "STOLE" over $500 million worth of GPUs from Tesla and gave it to his other companies (X, xAI)
Thanks not ok.
Technically speaking, any CEO of a publicly traded company who steals from shareholders should be fired and charged with Grand Larceny.
By "failed" I think you mean "fraudulent".
I'm pretty shocked at his failures this week. You are programmed lmfao.. His companies are building the biggest supercomputer in the world with even NVIDIA's CEO praising them, caught a rocket in mid air, deliver by far the most satellites to space, are dominant in the EV space, the industry failures keep stacking I see...
Just another techbro using the hype cycle to sucker a bunch of idiots.
You're going to be upset in about 20 to 30 years. Tye feature isn't for us. Its for our grandchildren.
well im very happy for beeing an idiot over the past years.
Right like catching a rocket. Never gonna happen! Oh wait...
@@untyrhallsprung569 People never learn. Once robotaxis are roaming the streets focus will shift to the next thing that will never happen.
Crazy that this has happened so many times already and people still dont see it, and only focus on what ever has not happened yet.
@@untyrhallsprung569 Creating more problems than it solves and they still don't know how to get passengers and cargo down from Starship if it ever lands on anything.
They put a cart with square wheels before the horse. Keep giving him money though.
Which insurance company will insurance these cars and how much will it cost.
There's a reason you never see tesla fsd in foggy or rainy conditions.
I have watched videos of FSD performing in both. Even snow.
I can't imagine how it would work without a steering wheel here in Michigan right after a snow storm or trying to make a left turn in Manhattan during the middle of the day with pedestrians everywhere.
My Guess is it will have tiny controls somewhere like a little joystick for maintenance guys. No joke!
I saw a video of it working pretty well in a parking lot full of pedestrians. Who knows when the car will actually be delivered though as Musk is terrible with promises.
Elon s proposition is illogical, that is why the final product will have a steering wheel, even if it's some type of retractable yoke when operating in FSD. Nobody will buy a car that they can't use in case of an emergency situation or simply choose to drive if not rented or shared. Companies like Uber don't have an incentive to buy, they would be changing bussines model and take aditional liability in case of a crash.
By the 2030s there will be robocars that can drive anywhere, including in the snow. Waymo pretty much has it solved now. You can't imagine it, but it's basically a solved problem. Next is about scaling and making it cheap, and 100x safer than human drivers, then 1000x safer, ...
@@SlagNasty that wouldn't work; too much lag in wireless networks to drive remotely. No company will even try.
"Fake it till you make it" - Elon Musk
Or "fake it till you exit" - and leave someone else with the fallout.
“Move fast and break things” - Elon Musk discussing Tesla self driving.
@@hedgehog3180 more specifically pedestrian bones.
How France does business
For the time being, the thought of these Robotaxis’ out there on the streets, legally owned by some LLC, with state minimum insurance, just scares the hell out of me.
If these robotaxis were so great, why would they still sell cars? They could just release these in the roads and collect money. Very telling that they don’t seem to want to manage/assume the risk of a robotaxi fleet.
Lol why? People are so weird. The thought that regular people drive scare me a lot more. Have you seen how stupid people are? There's a reason driving is one of the most dangerous things you can do.
And when there's a bad driver, everything you do to that bad driver only effects them. It doesn't do anything for the second bad driver. But a bad robotaxi? If one messes up, the company can fix them all. Imagine how different our world would be if we can "update" all the stupid people.
I can't wait until AI drivers are the majority of the road. Keeps you crazy people further away from me.
Who else is in favor of sending that 🤡 on his one-way trip to Mars already
Yo.
🤜
What have you both achieved that's better than him
@@oopswanstme.6208not being disowned by my family is a big one
@@oopswanstme.6208 Well, they both probably have jobs or careers that don't involve peddling BS. I love it when Elon stans use this argument. It's like you can't criticize Elon Musk because you're not as rich as him, even though he essentially got lucky by heavily investing in Tesla when it was becoming popular. As I always say, you can be financially rich but also morally bankrupt.
In tech we call that dogfooding 😂
In regards to driverless crash data, there’s a snapshot button anyone can press to send data back to Tesla if the car does something wrong, however, Teslas are also known to disengage self driving when a crash is imminent in order to be able to say it wasn’t turned on at the time.
"A boy who cried wolf", exactly. "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me."
Fool me 3 times, won't get fooled again!
Living in SF we see Waymo's self-driving around all day long, it's still a bit strange but they're everywhere, and tbh they seem to work pretty well; obvs they're not perfect (and of course people mock them when they get stuck etc) but the technology is impressive and functional. What is strange about Waymo is the pricing - usually more expensive than Lyft or Uber, and not as useful (Waymo's often won't pick you up or drop you off exactly where you want); obviously the pricing can be easily changed but for them to knowingly overprice it in this marketplace is a little strange
Getting used to seeing them, humans adapt to them faster than they do to humans.
Which price tier of Uber and Lyft are you comparing to? It's probably more comparable to an Uber black than an Uber share.
The price is a huge red flag in the robotaxi business model. Rideshare drivers are paid next to nothing when accounting for hidden costs like vehicle wear and insurance. The majority of your fare is not driver pay and Uber is famously unprofitable, so the numbers simply do not add up when you try and compete with a dominant player burning money by cutting out what is ultimately a minor expense.
Waymo uses lidar while tesla relies only on cameras, meaning that teslas tech is just not capable of the same things as waymo is
@@electrified0 exactly, whos gonna pay for the new tires and charge these cars?
Elmo is literally a real life Michael Scott from The Office, who thinks he's the smartest and funniest man in the room in any situation.
Well, Michael at last is a true Genius salesmen, also, he cares about His employees!
Cybercab is a 2 seater, if that isn’t absurd.
8 years the posts were full of Elon fans saying he was right, he had vision and he was the greatest business man in history. Those voices seem to have almost faded away to nothing.
Stock go up, can do no wrong. Stock go down, can do no right
8 years ago he was blue so it was ok to publicly support him. Now he’s red so it’s not. Pretty simple.
well he made me a crapload. still buying when you are selling.
His twitter antics ruined his image 100x more than any false promise he ever made.
@@dworkin7110 8 years ago he was a democrat so he was accepted. Now he is red, so he is insulted.
Just add 15-20 years on to his estimated dates and you'll be close
Yes he will be close, but sadly it won't be Tesla who achieves it 😅
close to seeing his fanbase realize he was a scam artist?
Except in the early 2000s people were saying the switch to EVs would occur by now. I know this because I was there
Bankruptcy is often closer than technology breakthrough 😅
You forgot that you also need to add "half baked result" to it.
Hype to sell more stock.
Lies*
Nice to see an investor who understand what they are seeing at Tesla for once
I think it should be clear to everyone that Teslas can obviously drive themselves for a very very long time, very well without human intervention. The idea that it will not be unsupervised in our lifetimes is rediculous. Especially with the rapid advancement of A.I.
its amazing how i passed my driving exam, without even having 1,000 miles of experience.
How dare you call out King Grifter
Found the scammer
@@samsonsoturian6013 found the guy with no reading comprehension
Himself and donald should have a grift off.
Fraud
Fraud requires actual lies. Speculating on unknowable topics legally doesn't count.
Space Karen has put all his wealth and influence behind Trump, and Trump has said he'll get rid of all rules and regulations. This should be very scary to anyone who believes totally autonomous driving will be a reality.
That robot is the dumbest shit I've ever seen, these people are delusional
There are two major issues with their proposal. First off if it is a money make then wall street and private equity will buy them all up and second a true robo taxi to be useful would look more like a Honda Element with ease of entry and exit but instead Tesla focused on form over function which they did with the X and Cybertruck. It is certainly not disabled friendly or for anyone with limited mobility.
If there were Golden Raspberry Awards to honour corporate vapour ware and business failures, Musk would be on every sane person's prediction card. Year after year.
Wtf?😂 tell me about his failures. Did you see the space x rocket launch. Holy moly you are a bit slow.😂
World's best selling EV maker. World's most prolific space cargo transport. World's fastest brain interface bandwidth device.
You stand by your statement?
@@robb233 BYD has been selling more EVs than Tesla since 2022, they sold over a million more than Tesla last year....
@@John-fz3ij they beat them temporarily, but Tesla took the lead again last quarter of 2023 if I recall.
Even so, how does this qualify as 'Golden Raspberry Awards' material?
@@John-fz3ij And for what it's worth. I just see BYD beating Tesla in 2023 if and only if you include hybrid vehicles, which is something Tesla doesn't promote or manufacture.
I guarantee if this ever gets released, it's going to have a huge subscription fee on top of the car price.
It will never be released.
I feel so sad about people who actually think that Musk is a nice guy.
I just wish they’d focus more on the actual products and finally release the low cost model and the semi. I think it’s really what investors want
Total pipe-dream. I cannot believe investors are still drinking the Kool-AId
Many cut their loss, more will keep figuring it out. The stupidity is people for some reason think on of this can be eventually done without him. Which is completely absurd.
I can’t wait to come back to this is 3 years.
@@eamonshields2754 ha it will be 'self driving is coming next year!' as it has been for the last decade
@@BoxiesAU the problem was harder to solve than anticipated… hence why no one else is doing it in a meaningful way besides waymo.
FSDs latest version is insanely good. But by all mean, hate away, that’s likely all you know.
@@eamonshields2754 no, it's not I know. I just can't believe people have been buying the promises for 10 years. Seems to be 'all they know'
"Self-driving bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla, bla next year"
- Elon Musk since 2014
This will never come out or if it does, it will be years late, cost substantially more than promised and will be severely restricted in where it can be used. I really don't understand how a publicly traded company can get away with blatantly lying to shareholders like this so often.
Helps the share price, so it's ok
"I, nuh, I-I thi this will be the biggest product... ever...... of any kind."
-Elon Musk, age 8
As much as I love my tesla, musk is falling into the same trap that roomba did with not opting for lidar and relying on cameras. Over time lidar prices will fall as demand picks up. Obviously lidar equipped cars will perform better than camera only cars.
LIDAR is perfect for robotic vacuums, since they are in controlled environments, but try putting 10 or 20 of them in the same room.
Active ranging (like LIDAR, RADAR or ultrasonics.) can't scale, there is always a point where the environment is too "noisy", regardless of techniques to reduce interference. Because the transmissions of any time-of-flight device are only useful for that individual device.
Where-as passive techniques like vision/camera can scale infinitely, because some spectrum of light already exists in most environments, and light from one device is generally useful for other devices.
LIDAR can only scale with vehicle-to-vehicle and vehicle-to-infrastructure communication, aka, in controlled environments.
musk sycophants like munro and ben sullens will throw a tantrum over this video
What happened to Munro? He used to be a critic of Tesla and now he's drank their kool-aid.
@@althunder4269He realizes that positive Tesla content gets extremely high engagement and decided to cash in on the hype cycle
Just because someone doesn't hate musk doesn't make him a sycophant. That's like saying a European person is racist if they oppose the disappearance of Europeans.
Overoptimistic from Musk means lying.
I still say Tesla should have rolled that RoboVan straight to the center of studio town and opened the doors to reveal 20 Optimus Robots walking out and jointly making some memorable statement like “We are the future, you are the past”! Definitely a missed opportunity for an “iRobot” moment or Apple 1984 Orwellian TV ad flashback!
I'm imagining the same thing now, except in my version they exit to suitably thematic music. Entrance of the Gladiators would be perfect.
For Waymo, we do not know how often a teleoperator intervenes for the vehicle quietly. It does happen. There have been mainstream media stories about it. We just don’t know how much.
It's not a 5-seat sedan. It's a 2-seater.
If the car is so smart. Why did two doors open when only 1 person got in the car?
How is his iRobot copied van going to get round town with no ground clearance? 😅
Designers can imagine everything except potholes...
Railroad crossings and speed bumps 😂
@@zapfanzapfan That "bus" isn't even going to manage going uphill without getting stuck on the incine.
Using cameras solely is wont work.
It is working, and improving rapidly.
"never mind that, look at this next big thing i'm pushing!! did you see me land the rocket?? lets go to mars!!!"
P.T. Barnum 2.0
"Tell me again how lidar is a fools errand." - Waymo.
world's greatest scam artist in a long time, I'll give him that.
Found the drug dealer
@@samsonsoturian6013 yes. legally. and what? is that meant to insult me?
@@samsonsoturian6013 you are pitiful musk fanbaby go cry in failed projects
The Optimus bartenders (and probably a lot of the taxis) were definitely being controlled by someone, to create the illusion of automation. 13:30 basically what this human was saying. If he says it might be some then it is definitely a lot. If it was only a supervisor they would say none.
Dude is capping for sure. Remember the release date for cyber taxi is always 2 years from whatever year it is right now
Self driving taxis are inevitable. When it happens is not important.
Tesla has delivered on a lot of car models. Every step of the way, critics say that each car model would be another flop or “the competition is coming”
Robo taxi will be Tesla most risky project, but even if full autonomy is not achieved, Tesla’s developing a new manufacturing process for cars that should dramatically lower the cost. Even if Rotax is a flop, they may have a very good low-cost EV.
For "dramatically lowering the cost" I read "skip on quality control and the like" - like how CyberTrucks catch on fire in flooding because water leaks in from bad isolation.
My Model 3 on FSD takes me from my driveway to wherever I need to go (except for the actual parking at destination). I use FSD 95 % and have not had a single instance of having to disengage for safety reasons in maybe two years.
You can dislike their robotaxi vehicle but I don’t see how you can disregard FSD. It’s here. And it works.
You're lucky... But as usual your situation is not representative for everyone or every situation
Johnny Johnny, telling lies?
My favorite self driving video is when a guy has a stop sign on his shirt and all self driving cars stop for no reason.
The guy has made incredible achievements on just 20 years in pretty much everything he has touched. Not all go according to plan.
All this money and effort to try and create something we DO NOT need.
If it worked it'd replace low paying jobs with higher paying jobs. But it doesn't work
If he thinks it is solved, then he is clueless.
Shut up
Musk thinks he’s the real life Tony Stark when he’s the actual Clive Sinclair.
I like the insult "Phony Stark."