TIERNEY LOAN DEAL OFF + £4.6M ØRJASÆTER BID REJECTED! | LIVE
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- Join Paul & Chris as they reflect on last night's Champions League MD8 defeat at Villa Park and discuss today's transfer news; including a report suggesting Kieran Tierney will not return to Celtic this month.
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Arteta was never allowing Tierney to leave and come to us in this window
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Correct..
No previous Rangers man would allow it
Correct. We are in an unacceptable position re LBs. Taylor is awful, out of contract and should have been sold. He is unbelievably our only option now.
@@Bowman1977 Arteta has previously alluded to the fact they are no longer the same club, so I very doubt he cares about assisting a 12 year old club! 😂
Paul and all the guys, thanks for all the content. It's really appreciated. My arthritis stops me getting to the games anymore. Love the intelligent, reasoned analysis you always give and the passion you have for our team. I'm nearly 60, so seen ups and downs for the Bhoys. Paul, I seen a brief clip of you at 11.49 celebrating the goal v YBB (that was given.) on a RUclipsr Rose Ruland channel. I did a double take and said "There's Paul!". Keep up the great work mate. Hail! Hail!
Great to hear, thank you so much! Really appreciate that 🍀 HH!
On 15M on wingers - Maeda and Kuhn have provided 49 goal contributions, just below half of the team's output. These positions are key. Realistically, if we have an individual player with Kuhn's/O'Riley's numbers then we should expect interest from EPL and the top 5 leagues. We'd be making 20M+ in profit. That's the trading model we're aiming for, therefore we need players in the squad who are able to contribute to a similar level; both Palma and Yang are not that. We're gonna lose money on these two, but move them on regardless and find better prospects.
Still don't understand why Kyogo was sold before the Villa game. Playing Kyogo on the wing instead of Yang could have made all the difference last night.
Kyogo as wanted to leave for months.
You can’t keep an unsettled player.
100% agree
One more game from Kyogo would have helped us and not harmed him
@@IanFitz-r2wwe had already qualified that’ll be the reason….if we needed a point or a win I do t think they’d have sold him until after the game but in honesty it was a dead rubber game
Agreed . Something went on .that we don't know. I think the board sold him to keep the money
RE. Centre Forward. Ok Kyogo wanted to leave but was aiming for a bigger club. Celtic shafted him to Renne so Jota could return
Progress mentally? We were 2 goals down in 5 minute! I really think though we came back before half time, we are sruggling against strong, skilled opposition. Telegraphing transfer intentions,not smart tactics either.We need to play a lot smarter, on and off the field.
Just back from last nights game. We really looked liked rabbits in the headlights in the first 8 mins but credit to the players for getting back into the game but 2nd half credit to Villa they deserved the win. We re-group and go again. Great pod again bhoys.
Just when you thought you couldn’t dislike Arteta anymore than you do he goes and proves you wrong, go on Liverpool 😂😂
Brilliant output guys. Great round up.
Celtic sell Kyogo and now they will have to pay top dollar for another striker. We have already been screwed with the Idah deal, so maybe they won't sign another until the summer. Left back is a must.
Selling your best player immediately before the Villa game was idiotic to say the least reckless at worst.. Biscuit tin Celtic would not give Kyogo £40K/week and lost his good will Kyogo was our super star..Adam is no super star and never will be.. Getting humped 4-2 by Villa is disgraceful and proves BR is not Elite he is bang average at best.
Am I being silly, take Simon Murray from Dundee for pennies at least till end of season, hes a pain in the arse for any defence especially in the Scottish Premier League and wo UK ld TV un his guts out for Celtic
Four Days to go and we are actually in a weaker position than we where at the start of the transfer window,
All because of one clueless manager and his oligarchs
Wingers on the bloody brain, Rodgers. Even bringing Jota back under the current remit of a manager so insistent upon narrow attacking dynamics and central overloads with inverted full-backs and wingers, makes absolutely zero sense. You’re absolutely not getting the best out of Jota unless he’s played high and wide. He is totally unsuitable for the inverting function. Hopefully the stubborn clown changes his inept playing style and system, but I wouldn’t bet my last tenner on it!
A think that's why he's bringing in Tierney so jota can cut in and Tierney can bomb past something taylor can't do. And Tierney can't do the inverted LB or arsenal would be keeping him there. 👍🍀
Yep, that BR is definitely a clown. Celtic on their best European run in years and running away with the league. 😂
@@MrBagpipes 😂 Back the Manager and back the team. 🍀
Aw shut up
@@MrBagpipes Barring the Leipzig performance (aided by the fact they were abysmal on the night) and an excellent draw in Bergamo, what’s been so overly positive about this UCL campaign?
Are we seriously counting beating the worst team in the competition with an 86th minute OG? and the second worst team that also finished on zero points from 8 games?
Our failure to put away both Dinamo and Brugge (which were must win games), and our inability to stop conceding school-boy goals, has resulted in us qualifying with absolutely zero chance of progress. So, where does the grandiose optimism come from??
As for Domestic matters - have you watched the standard of Football since Rodgers returned?? Last season was some of worst Football witnessed at Celtic Park (and Away) for many years. This season, we started well, but since the Leipzig game we largely had to sit through more insipid, low tempo, horseshoe-matrix Football against dug meat opposition.
No one expects us to be at our free-flowing, expansive, high tempo best every week, far from it - but an 11 game slump whilst reverting back to his atrocious pedestrian playing style, is absolutely not acceptable. This is Glasgow Celtic, it is not Hibernian, Hearts or Killie. Accepting mediocrity is never befitting of 'The Celtic Way’, especially up against utter pish week in week out, that operate at a mere tenth of our budget.
Daizen, Reo and Matt O'Riley (not to mention Ideguchi and Johnny Kenny ) joined January 2022 for a combined£5m, you can get value without a massive spend but I am happy we are pitching signings a bit higher. It's as if 20 years of inflation never happened when you consider we were playing in the 1.5-3.5m pool for all that time.
Mibbies Orjaester is for Maeda to be played thru the middle and Jota to be pushed to the left if Kvistgaarden of Idah are unavailable.
Kuhn (RW) Kvistgaarden (CF) Maeda(LW/CF)
Jota (RW/LW) Idah (CF) Orjaester(LW)
… versatile Forrest (RW/LW) in reserve. VERY nice.
The million wingers will have been back in the 3 subs days, how often do we sub both wingers in the 90 these days?
Can you imagine the fear in the air when Jota tires and a rested Maeda laces up on 60 mins?
Forrest is good at SPFL level but he is 100 years old in pro-football forward years.
I agree with Chris on the flares situation. You want to burn good will you burn it on roasting the Royals not smoking lights HH
Can't have Taylor as the only left back for the rest of the season. In allowing Valle to leave did they think we would get Tierney in January?
Valle was recalled by barca as they said he was not getting played.
Scales can play at left back
Everyone blaming arteta for refusing to let him leave on loan, the loan wouldve cost £3m and in summer the cost is £0, could this be the real reason and not arteta?
Another pish poor transfer window , weakened more than strengthened , board upstairs just care about money . Disappointed fan
Me too 😡
Agreed .
We've went from Khun and discussing German caps to his in and out performances of late , now we're possibly taking a massive punt on a young relative unknown project . Strange time
Last night credible? Am I the only person who believes we were within a fraction of a 7 - 3 thumping. We gave away a 4th goal that would be terrible in a Sunday pub league. You're talking of maturity seems somewhat adrift after having to see such a difference in quality between us and them. Unfortunately I believe the next two games in Europe will demonstrate exactly how statistics come well after "lies and damned lies". I'm a supporter but let's not kid ourselves, we've boxed ourselves in at left back, centre forward and in central defence, when Carter-Vickers is injured. Next season!!! we've got to get through this one with a team that is stuttering at the moment.
Good chat guys. Cant help thinking that we are a threadbare squad at the minute.
Meada on the wall bro 😎 👏👏👏 🇵🇹🏄🏼♂️
Imagine starting Jota and Kuhn and then bringing on Maeda and Orjasaeter when teams are starting to get tired. So It makes sense to have 4 quality wingers.
We need another striker in pronto
What’s Chris doing on?? Is there a Glasgow Derby on Saturday😂
Going with the timescale of players, here, maeda would be wanting to leave in the summer, but im thinking kuhn will have offers, so a replacement for either or both must be found
Id say most people would push back on this but Rodgers has had a couple of digs at Kuhn regarding tracking back, pressing etc. and overall in the CL run outwith the Leipzig match (the one after which Rodgers said he could've done more) how effective was he in the run of matches -certainly the last 4 he's been relatively ineffective and at Ibrox -i've a sneaky feeling if the Norwegian winger comes in Kuhn could be sold especially if a 20 to 25 million bid made
Well we need a decent left back in pronto to cover or compete with Taylor. Will probably have to be a loan deal but a bit late in the day to achieve that. I just hope Celtic had a good contingency plan in place to cover their backs in case Tierney couldn't come this window. It's all looking a bit messy.
Saw this happening but never say never with Celtic hopefully get the man united guy
If Yang or Palma are not good enough to be backups, then 7m is the price you are going to have to pay for backups
We have more than 4 wingers just now, they just aren’t good enough. Replacing Yang and Palma with Jota and this other lad makes sense. So many games, injuries and suspensions. JF can get some minutes as well when required.
Surely we need 4 top quality wingers. Look at us ATM relying on Yang and a fit forrest when theres injuries.
I would say it makes total sense to have four really good wingers, as James Forrest will not play much next year. Also Palma and Yang wont be there, so at the moment we have 6 wingers only three contributing
What’s not to like about having four quality wingers? Our game plan revolves around them so we need strength. Look what happens when we turn to Yang and Palma!
It’s a bit small minded to worry about keeping them “happy”. Top clubs will have two good players for each position and the game time Yang has got shows there’ll be opportunities…
Anyway, even if we are planning ahead in case we lose Kuhn or Maeda….isn’t that exactly the argument people are making for getting Kvistgaarden in now…?🤷🏻♂️
Good chat 🍀⚽️✅
What about Engels pass for the second goal 😂different gravyyyyy
We are going intae the motherwell game very light, anything happens tae Taylor or idah we're horsed, we should've had replacements in straight away
Scales can play LB and meada cand play up front if that happens
@@Henk67-j9m so wit if some happens to ccv or trusty, we are short
@jeanpaul2nd465 true in that scenario we have a problem, let's hope it doesn't. HH
Johnston overlapping at times leaves acres of space behind, if KT comes back and does the same🙈 we need midfielders who cover backwards as their forte.
Why dìd brendan sub scales with à playeŕ from thè development squad when rockÿ was on the bench.
He doesnt play development players in league games?
I thought we played well last night, (i wont mention our left side of defence and how big mobile midfields seem to run over ours ) so happy for idah and watching it back 2nd time (dont shout at me) i thought trusty was good. The kt and playoff draw has kinda deflated me , but hope we get munich kompany aint the most tactic savy seems to rely on having better players , treble is still on
Its meada and hatate they both want too leave now unfortunately
If we struggle to get a striker in we might have to look towards the SPFL to get one..won't be UCL quality obviously but would fill the gap domestically till the end of the season..would we take Shankland? Murray or Dalby?
I've no grumbles about the results in the group run bar one -Zagreb -theoretcals based on draws and fixtures are well and good before and in hindsight but surely it has to be about where you are when each fixture comes around and what happens on the pitch not the name of the team you're playing or whether home or away -Zagreb were poor on the night as the match unfolded and were there for the taking we responded in a pedestrian, cautious manner -2pts dropped for me and I think by hook or by crook we were always very likely to beat Young Boys -we'd 8pts in.the bank going to Zagreb and should've been going into the Young Boys match on 11pts and could've finished on 14pts -not knit picking or over expectancy -the whole 'what would you have taken prior' thought process is made redundant with every match as it passes -Zagreb was a golden opportunity as it transpired on the pitch for 3pts and yes they finished on 11pts but the night they played us they were poor and we should be beating Young Boys at Celtic Park whether a tight scoreline or not
Summer 2021 deadline day: Celtic sign CCV, Jota and GG. 2 business days is along time in football ;) HH
Plenty big ballers out there to fill the left back position on loan. Artetas a hurting hun
We had one in Valle - a Bhoy with massive potential, but our clueless manager thinks a want-away dud like Greg Taylor is somehow a better Footballer than a future Barca star! 😂😂😂 It’s that bonkers, you have to laugh!
“I commend the board for the financial outlay they’ve put forth so far”
Why? We’ve taken in more than we’ve spent so far.
Scales, Taylor, yang . 3 reasons why we need to seriously spend big money
Do Arsenal really need KT ? doesn't make sense that they're releasing him then... Smells of "Spiteful Spaniard" Arteta cant believe Tierney wants to leave his beloved Arsenal to come back to Celtic... but he KNOWS we have a massively better Fanbase & the pull of our Club is greater than their Premiership.. he cant handle it & "toys out the pram" springs to mind...
Unless he’s completely resigned to losing his back-up LB in Zinchenko in this window, then it makes absolutely no sense to hold on to your third-choice LB who you evidently don’t rate good enough to fulfil the inverted role.
KT playing LCB for Scotland has definitely helped evolve his game in the central channel, but he has largely struggled acting as a pivot alongside Partey or Rice at 6. Arteta would often have to change the left dynamics entirely if KT was the only option at LB, as he was unsuitable for that inverting function. Changing his role to hugging the line and overlapping meant that Martinelli being shifted inside to the half-space, given much more freedom to attack the new found space generated by the false nine’s dropping off. The result being, Arsenal's attacking dynamics improved, only for the not so bright ex Jaffa to resort back to playing inverted Zinchenko et al. It’s a combination of things, but it’s also personal for whatever untold reasoning.
Working in London regularly, I know the Arsenal fans love Arteta and the only real gripe they have with him is not playing KT more - a guy they genuinely adore and at one stage thought he was going to be a future Captain. Celtic supporters honestly wouldn’t believe just how much they love KT and are desperate to keep him. He is their modern day Nigel Winterburn.
@leannecampbell4551 Geez Leeanne you trumped my Comment a 100 fold... i thought i was reading Martin O'Neills breakdown of Arsenal.. 😆... brilliant tactical knowledge & insight & yes Arsenal fans will see what they're missing soon enough... HH Ghirl 💚🤍
@PAT67-CELT 😂 Merely my subjective perspective, but I’ll take being compared to the legendary Sir Martin’s analysis any day of the week! 😂 Cheers! 💚
Jota might be playing as 10 if new winger being targeted . Jota value could go very big again in that 10
I think Khun is off, because of how he STARTED the season. He’s been okay since then. Not AS brilliant. But I think he’ll go in summer.
How well the teams matured ? They were 2 down within 5 minutes, great display for both goals but Villa could’ve had six or seven, that’s the reality.
The reality is Villa has a squad worth 100s of millions, Celtic punching well above, missing 3 key players as well, to come back from 2 down shows the mentality has changed.
penrice fae hearts
Kenny,palma,yang,nawrocki all out
Lb winger cf cb in
Still think we are worfully powder puff in midfield as well .Engels has been disappointingly poor ever since his arrival, despite all the denials and special pleading, and Hatate weak. Bernardo is bang average and McCowan simply not good enough for the CL.
A think miada and hatate will be gone in the summer, and bringing two wingers that can play left or right in this window is a great plan, but a think brendan is over looking a strong defencive midfielder we look week in games like last night, mcgregor doesn't perform at his best in the holding roll .
Defo think hatate will go in the summer, he hasn't looked happy for a while now in my eyes.
We got 10 million for Kyogo, it should be a no brainer to spend at least that and more on a talented young replacement?
Jota needs to play some sort of game time 30 mins end of the game
Yeah, seen you on TV... If a picture paints 1000 words. LOL!
You know I wouldn’t be surprised if BR plans to play YANG as a 9.. He loves the guy, scores nothing, sets up nothing, runs nowhere.. why not 😂
Yang the man with one goal in 50 or so games. Yep, he's what we need leading the line.
Mind the time Rodgers advised us when he signed him 19 months ago, he had all the potential to go to the very top of the game! 😂😂😂 Another dud signing - one of the 9 since July 2023! Utter shambles!
@@leannecampbell4551£9m+ in fees & wages squandered on the patently slow trio of Nawrocki, Lagerbielke & Phillips when we were crying out for a Starfelt replacement with a turn of pace. It’s negligent & a total sh1tsh0w.
Now our championship league future is limited, the board will surely not invest for further income from Champions league!
So will the board invest because of the revitalized threat from Rangers…?
Once a hun, always a hun.. thanks for nothing Arteta, you knew he wasn't for sale weeks or months ago.
Kuhn wants into German squad
Hardly a surprise rather see him here just now but it's three million to invest elsewhere.
Celtic players especially in midfield needs to gym up build there muscles so lightwait
Brilliant... 😂😂😂
Yeah, we all suffered during those cheating days bk in the 90s when we were always looking up the way... Hj
You looked raging on the tv last night mate
We were 2-0 down at 6 minutes 😂
Yes it was brutal, I had the fear after the first five minutes that it could end up being 10 @@CelticFansTV
--> Chris, thanks for bringing up James Forrest. I'm rooting hard for him to get a goal when he returns. His streak of 16 seasons with a goal can't end this season, surely.
--> I'd put the need for a LB ahead of the need for a striker. Maeda is a better understudy for Idah than Scales is for Taylor.
Well if Celtic are bidding for another winger that can only mean one thing Maeda and Idah will be the central strikers, Kenny 3rd choice. Edit, cos some people cant figure it out, I dont see Celtic paying for another striker if we are going in for another winger. Shame about Tierney and as for Malacia, I support Celtic and Man Utd, not been to convinced from what I have seen from Malacia, he starts tonight for Utd. He's also not long back from being injured which required knee surgery. So again fitness levels and match sharpness could be a problem and I would still see Taylor being first choice left back. Surely there has to be better choices out there. Same old Celtic board if you ask me. Still think we lack a pacey attacking midfielder and a tall, strong defensive midfielder.
Malacia just got booked 8mins in for a stupid tackle 🤦♂️
He's not what we need, imo, even if on loan.
Sorry but the Board don't scout for players. Brendan has been promised the money within an agreed budget to improve the squad so it's now on the recruitment dept and Brendan.
Think it means Maeda has told them he is leaving in summer.
@Gezobel Did I say the board scout for players? No! Dont put words into my mouth, pal. You are trying to tell me the board will allow Rodgers to bid £10m+ for Kvistgaarden? I doubt it.
@Rasputin I dont think hes happy that Kyogo was sold and I dont expect Celtic to bid £10m plus for Kvistgaarden so thats why I think Maeda and Idah will be the central strikers.
You looked like you were going to Run Away!!!!!
Herree BUD…… It’s nae a bank machine!!
Look
Aston Villa stepped up second half
Don’t understand subs Roger’s playing young boys
--- arteta
Of course orjaester bid gets rejected Celtic just simply aren't allowed to sign players, toxic atmosphere and 2-0 loss to dundee midweek, the gap is closing 😡😡