the drummer is awesome. he (colm) actually keeps the band together thru their own pushing and pulling of the tempo. i think it sounds really cool. imagine driving a huge locomotive train. that's what he does. and he does it sitting between the roar of two guitar rigs and a bass rig. no, dude, he's awesome.
That's actually true. And, there's also the myth that MBV put a lot of time into each song; they didn't. Shields has said most guitar tracks are first or second take. The reason it took so much time is that they needed inspiration to make new songs. Inspiration doesn't come easy.
apparently they just had huge gaps between recording each part. for example: the drum part could've been recorded in early 1989, the guitar by the end of the year, then the bassline in early 1990, nothing for the rest of that year, and finally the vocals in 1991
@@fabl554 Both Bilinda and Kevin have a Tinnitus and so do I. It's quite debilitating if you're not mentally strong- insomnia, tension headaches, dizziness, sound oversensitivity, visual snow, major depression.. Hearing damage is no joke and you only realize it when you got it. Wear earplugs, I beg you.
@@adiaston Sure, I know but at that time (1991) I wasn't as aware as now and most of all I was 21 yo. In the same period I went to see Jesus & Mary Chain, Dinosaur Jr, Sonic Boom. All gigs that could give you hearing damages. Just think of the JAMC rollercoaster gig in Brixton Academy where that night Blur, Dinosaur Jr, MBV and JAMC played. That was at least 2h30-3h of feedbacks and screaming guitars/amps! It is absolutely no joke and to me the organisers should have provided the earplugs themselves but I repeat: at 21yo you're stupid and you think you can endure anything.
@@fabl554 That's true, nobody really warns about it, especially if you want to experience to the max the music that you're passionate about. Hopefully, you're okay and have none of the hearing damage symptoms like tinnitus : ) (not all people are prone to have it, thankfully)
That was just amazing. I can just imagine the intensity of the volume, rushing through you, meanwhile the seemingly effortless vocal goes stright to your head.
the great thing about the songs from loveless is they make you think about music in such a different light. The fact the vocals just kinda merge in as if its just some other noise equal to the guitars n stuff. so simple yet so effective. Best stuff ever to come out of the 90's
+DamoSuzuki100 You are in fact the one who commenced this argument by being an obnoxious, old, THICk skULLED APE. I mean, you seem to be implying that they are in fact not related to the genre shoegaze, period. I simply do not believe that you understand what the genre 'shoegaze' entails. If you want to talk about logic, situate the definition of shoegaze and the musical composition of the album 'loveless' together and presto they fucking assimilate. Regardless of your extensive wisdom, this band persists to lay under the genre that is, shoegaze, and if you continue to rebuke that fact, well, kill urself my man :)
+DamoSuzuki1 I'm 50 & was *involved in the shoegaze scene (Guy Fixsen?). The first time I remember seeing the word "shoegaze" was in 1991 -> NME or Melody Maker (don't remember) used the term to describe the band "Moose". However, so many bands before (and after) accurately fit the description. To DamoSuzuki1's credit, the term "shoegaze" was coined after MBV recorded "Loveless", their last album of the decade. I consider The Jesus & Mary Chain's "Psychocandy" (1985) to be the be the first shoegaze album, and My Bloody Valentine's "Loveless" to be it's pinnacle.
The most intensely beautiful song I have ever come across. Bilinda has the voice of a Siren - that would definitely make me steer my ship straight into the rocks...
this is truly excellent! i saw them in san francisco in 92 and it was so loud, even plugging the guitars in shook the Warfield. after so many listens of Loveless with all the production & overdubs it's pretty amazing they could do it live and sound so human. thx spaced
In only shallow only Kevin plays guitar in the verses. There are two essential guitar parts in the refrain, which Kevin and Bilinda play live. Kevin's is more prominent and comprises the bulk of the elephant sound you hear. On record and live the song features a feedback sample in the high-end of the refrain riff. Kevin's lead is louder on record, and in the more recent shows the sample and his lead have been about the same volume. At this show, I can't even hear the sample.
Haven't gotten the chance to see them live, but this sounds awesome with the drums louder and heavier in the mix. Kinda like the newer shoegaze bands like Nothing and Whirr.
From all I've read about it, with interviews from Alan Moulder/Kevin/others.. it was pretty clear that the songs were being written over a few years, but it was the recording process that took so long. Kevin and them took all that time trying to get the sounds/mix/tone right for everything. Just because they were recorded first or second take doesn't mean that song writing and 'pre-production' didn't take all that time.. it means Kevin is a good musician. You're right about inspiration though.
as a musician who suffers from OCD myself (which Kevin obviously does) I can totally relate. 99.999% of the recordings I take sound horrible to me, but when I show them to anyone else they tell me it sounds great. Honestly that just makes MBV even more awesome to me
Both Bilinda and Kevin have Tinnitus from noise trauma and so do I. It's quite debilitating if you're not mentally strong- insomnia, tension headaches, dizziness, sound oversensitivity, visual snow, major depression.. Hearing damage is no joke and you only realize it when you got it. Wear earplugs, I beg you.
They played in Dallas last year, and there were these three kids who must've heard they were 'cool.' They kept bobbing up and down synchronously and acting cute, looking around and smiling, wet behind the ears, happy to see history, planning tweets and photographing with phones. But then history came alive and reached out to touch them, the battery of Marshalls firing off a wall of sound that shook the chest and violated the ears. They did not make it through the full 20 minutes. Legit is legit
in my opionin the greatest albums of the 90's are.lovelss,in the aeroplane over the sea,that red hot chili peppers from 91 i forget the name,nevermind,in utero,the bends,crooked rain,slanted and enchanted,ten,superunknown,vuglar display of power,play,odelay,mellow gold,the blue album,pinkerton. Love those albums with all my heart.
Hmm... Well Loveless is definitely in that top for me, with the rest being Souvlaki, Around The Fur, Selected Ambient Works 85-92 along with ...I Care Because You Do, Chaosphere, Dirt as well as the AIC self-titled, Songs of Faith and Devotion, Grace, Music Has The Right To Children, and Ive recently grown quite fond of the debut Korn album as well. I also enjoy some others of the ones youve mentioned, like the Nirvana albums and Superunknown, along with Bad Motorfinger, The Bends with, of course, OK Computer, but those albums have too many songs which I dont care for, so I cant stand behind the entire albums as such.
If you have heard Kevin's collaboration with Patti Smith, the Coral Sea, then you know very well what immense sound he can generate on his own in a live setting, not to mention that all of that was improvised. I really don't care if he uses samples of his own playing in addition to his and Bilinda's live playing. The samples are the icing on an already rich cake. Using them is the difference between being a four-person and five-person band; if Kevin didn't want to add someone else, that's fine.
@Spr4ynPr4y Spiderland, Queens of the Stone Age, In Utero, Today's Active Lifestyles, Ten, Superunknown....I could go on for days. The 90's is easily the most amazing period in music history.
I liken it to the way I write music now; I sequence everything in the comp as much as possible to edit/arrange the songs.. then when I have it perfect-to my standards-I record the parts. Kevin just did that without the comp, which is actually much more difficult & time consuming. I don't mean to burst your bubble or anything. but I don't see how they could be spending years in the studio just lounging around for inspiration. It was songwriting, and designing the sound that was in his head.
Well, there is always more than one guitar, the second one being Bilinda's. The exceptions are to here knows when and one of the songs from the third album, new you. I know for a fact that Kevin is producing 90% of the sound in to here knows when himself because at one of the shows, before the song even started, he strummed once or twice and there was that giant moaning whale sound that drives the whole thing.
yes, thanks to the poster. need had the priviledge to see them live, either. my friend said they were the loudest band he ever saw. awesome video comment: they look great, but their sound needs some work....uh ha...
I've been to two of them, one in 2008 and one in 2009. The bulk of the sound was always the band playing live. The songs containing synth or feedback samples were the same as those on record, and as on record, those parts were only supplementary elements in their respective songs. I honestly felt mbv were as good or better than the records on every song. I've been to a lot of shows and seen my share of shoegaze bands, and the Santa Monica mbv gig is my favorite ever.
yeah I just don't have that album yet,but I know all about it Imma get it ASAP, I just need the money$ I have a LOT of stuff to buy; stuff by Built to Spill, Guided by Voices, Pavement, Animal Collective, Modest Mouse, Broken Social Scene, Yo La Tengo, Godspeed You Black Emperor, Ride, Olivia Tremor control, Dinosaur Jr, and a lot more :p
Dear Spaced81: I'm pissed. I opened up this video, and I heard the pretty outro from my favorite MBV song, What You Want. And I CAN'T FIND IT ON YOUR VIDEO LIST AND I'M ABOUT TO CRY RIGHT NOW. :(((((
Yeah, I wish Belinda played the guitar more because that would have compensated for all the layering that Kevin did on the LP. He just played this and she sang which to me didn't sound that strong. The album has such a layered sound that you really noticed it live. Still a great Seattle gig for me though. Glad they're back and hopefully head to Seattle.
the drummer is awesome. he (colm) actually keeps the band together thru their own pushing and pulling of the tempo. i think it sounds really cool. imagine driving a huge locomotive train. that's what he does. and he does it sitting between the roar of two guitar rigs and a bass rig. no, dude, he's awesome.
Cool way to put it
by far the most badass Colm appreciation post ever
Wow your comment is now 16 years old. Still holds true.
That's actually true. And, there's also the myth that MBV put a lot of time into each song; they didn't. Shields has said most guitar tracks are first or second take. The reason it took so much time is that they needed inspiration to make new songs. Inspiration doesn't come easy.
Is there an interview for this? Or some article or something? I’d really like to see what exactly was said
apparently they just had huge gaps between recording each part. for example: the drum part could've been recorded in early 1989, the guitar by the end of the year, then the bassline in early 1990, nothing for the rest of that year, and finally the vocals in 1991
That and because he chose to do Loveless by himself with the exception of vocals. He worked in fits
R.I.P. to all the people who had their face melt off due to this song.
Face was ok but the ears were completely dead. I mean the volume was so high that I had the whistle in my ears for days. (I saw them the day before)
@@fabl554 Both Bilinda and Kevin have a Tinnitus and so do I. It's quite debilitating if you're not mentally strong- insomnia, tension headaches, dizziness, sound oversensitivity, visual snow, major depression.. Hearing damage is no joke and you only realize it when you got it. Wear earplugs, I beg you.
@@adiaston Sure, I know but at that time (1991) I wasn't as aware as now and most of all I was 21 yo. In the same period I went to see Jesus & Mary Chain, Dinosaur Jr, Sonic Boom. All gigs that could give you hearing damages. Just think of the JAMC rollercoaster gig in Brixton Academy where that night Blur, Dinosaur Jr, MBV and JAMC played. That was at least 2h30-3h of feedbacks and screaming guitars/amps! It is absolutely no joke and to me the organisers should have provided the earplugs themselves but I repeat: at 21yo you're stupid and you think you can endure anything.
@@fabl554 That's true, nobody really warns about it, especially if you want to experience to the max the music that you're passionate about. Hopefully, you're okay and have none of the hearing damage symptoms like tinnitus : ) (not all people are prone to have it, thankfully)
i want my face to be blown off
I love how in all these hard to hear bootlegs, you can pick out the melodies and intricate details.
Bilinda's voice sounds just lovely here
That was just amazing. I can just imagine the intensity of the volume, rushing through you, meanwhile the seemingly effortless vocal goes stright to your head.
I wonder how well you have to know a song to be able to play it in the dark, absolutely rockin
1- Loveless
2- Loveless
3- Loveless
4- Loveless
5- Loveless
I don't think I've ever wanted to be in a video so badly in my life.
the great thing about the songs from loveless is they make you think about music in such a different light. The fact the vocals just kinda merge in as if its just some other noise equal to the guitars n stuff. so simple yet so effective. Best stuff ever to come out of the 90's
I love shoegaze more than I love women.
DamoSuzuki100 true but it is very open for shoegaze fans
+DamoSuzuki100 You are in fact the one who commenced this argument by being an obnoxious, old, THICk skULLED APE. I mean, you seem to be implying that they are in fact not related to the genre shoegaze, period. I simply do not believe that you understand what the genre 'shoegaze' entails. If you want to talk about logic, situate the definition of shoegaze and the musical composition of the album 'loveless' together and presto they fucking assimilate. Regardless of your extensive wisdom, this band persists to lay under the genre that is, shoegaze, and if you continue to rebuke that fact, well, kill urself my man :)
***** lmao i just felt like lashing out is all
+DamoSuzuki1
I'm 50 & was *involved in the shoegaze scene (Guy Fixsen?). The first time I remember seeing the word "shoegaze" was in 1991 -> NME or Melody Maker (don't remember) used the term to describe the band "Moose". However, so many bands before (and after) accurately fit the description.
To DamoSuzuki1's credit, the term "shoegaze" was coined after MBV recorded "Loveless", their last album of the decade.
I consider The Jesus & Mary Chain's "Psychocandy" (1985) to be the be the first shoegaze album, and My Bloody Valentine's "Loveless" to be it's pinnacle.
+What The Fuck?! so easy, lol
In my opinion, the best albums of the 90s are Siamese Dream, Loveless, and OK Computer
True. Maybe slouvaki too?
Grace (Jeff Buckley).
Slint? NIN? Red House Painters? Slowdive?
@@DouglasP_ This comment section is flooding with patricians and I love it
lmao what are you talking about, smashing pumpkins and radiohead both are garbage
I love how Kevin Shields' guitar work makes this song seem so off-kilter and nearly out of control... I would have loved to have seen this live!
the rhythm guitar in the verses just BLASTS you in the face in this recording, i've never heard anything like it
I saw this last night, it was incredible. The only re united band who has come back sounding just as good as they did before they split up.
The most intensely beautiful song I have ever come across. Bilinda has the voice of a Siren - that would definitely make me steer my ship straight into the rocks...
There's something so sensual about this song, especially live
Damn, Bilinda used to be a lot more powerful in the old days. You can actually hear her guitar quite prominently in the verses.
best albums of 1991: loveless, spiderland, nevermind, just for a day.
xArturo999 don’t forget Laughing Stock
@@isaiahromero9861 Yeah! how could I forget about that one
xArturo999 gish
Blood sugar sex magik, badmotorfinger
Siamese dream
this is truly excellent! i saw them in san francisco in 92 and it was so loud, even plugging the guitars in shook the Warfield.
after so many listens of Loveless with all the production & overdubs it's pretty amazing they could do it live and sound so human. thx spaced
Fans went in happy and fans left happy, albeit with ruptured eardrums ^_^
This is their best song
Are those the fading notes of "What You Want" at the beginning of this? If so, God I wish you had a video of that too.
First time seeing them performing live and GODDAMNNN
they are the loudest concert i have ever seen
I've heard the same from a friend who saw them with, I think, NIN. One of the only bands it makes sense, but also HELLA NEED EAR PROTECTION
I would add Godflesh
I saw them right before Dinosaur Jr, without earplugs. My hearing was fucked for days
1- Loveless
2- OK Computer
3-The Division Bell
4-Siamese Dream
5-Ten
1 Masterpiece
2 Overrated
3 ...
4 Very good
5 Very good
@@DouglasP_ OKC is overrated for a reason though , it's a good album
@@DouglasP_ no way OKC is overrated
@@jandcstopmotion7774 the whole Radiohead music is overrated
@@DouglasP_ In what way?
In only shallow only Kevin plays guitar in the verses. There are two essential guitar parts in the refrain, which Kevin and Bilinda play live. Kevin's is more prominent and comprises the bulk of the elephant sound you hear. On record and live the song features a feedback sample in the high-end of the refrain riff. Kevin's lead is louder on record, and in the more recent shows the sample and his lead have been about the same volume. At this show, I can't even hear the sample.
I can't love this live version enough
Haven't gotten the chance to see them live, but this sounds awesome with the drums louder and heavier in the mix. Kinda like the newer shoegaze bands like Nothing and Whirr.
sounds fantastic love bilinda’s voice floating through
stratosphere, loveless, just for a day. i love 90's
From all I've read about it, with interviews from Alan Moulder/Kevin/others.. it was pretty clear that the songs were being written over a few years, but it was the recording process that took so long. Kevin and them took all that time trying to get the sounds/mix/tone right for everything. Just because they were recorded first or second take doesn't mean that song writing and 'pre-production' didn't take all that time.. it means Kevin is a good musician. You're right about inspiration though.
as a musician who suffers from OCD myself (which Kevin obviously does) I can totally relate. 99.999% of the recordings I take sound horrible to me, but when I show them to anyone else they tell me it sounds great. Honestly that just makes MBV even more awesome to me
@@MorgansTrainClips hes probably manic depressive AKA bipolar, he's described manic episodes in interviews
Best heard without earplugs
Both Bilinda and Kevin have Tinnitus from noise trauma and so do I. It's quite debilitating if you're not mentally strong- insomnia, tension headaches, dizziness, sound oversensitivity, visual snow, major depression.. Hearing damage is no joke and you only realize it when you got it. Wear earplugs, I beg you.
nice pfp!
@@adiaston totally respect this got hearing damage from working in clubs scared me into wearing hearing protection properly
NO. Fuck hearing damage.
They played in Dallas last year, and there were these three kids who must've heard they were 'cool.' They kept bobbing up and down synchronously and acting cute, looking around and smiling, wet behind the ears, happy to see history, planning tweets and photographing with phones. But then history came alive and reached out to touch them, the battery of Marshalls firing off a wall of sound that shook the chest and violated the ears. They did not make it through the full 20 minutes.
Legit is legit
shut up
Probably my favorite version of this song.
One of my favorite songs ever since around 2005. Super bittersweet every time I hear it.
This why I like about shoegaze it can be noisy and calm at the same time like the vocal it's very calm
No wonder they are one of the loudest bands ever
I wish I was at this show. I’m very late into MBV but I’ve been listening to loveless nonstop the last few days and I’ve just been obsessed.
my brother introduced me to them recently, and i'm embarressed that i had never heard of them before...
If it's any consolation, that was 12 years ago and now you've got cred fo' days.
this is beautiful, OMG OMG !
Id faint if I saw them live
Ya it's insanely loud
The crowd at this show goes insane
@ponedonkey
I'm glad someone agrees! Siamese Dream was the album that got me into good music, and in my opinion, it's completely underrated.
I'm sure this was incredibly loud.
in my opionin the greatest albums of the 90's are.lovelss,in the aeroplane over the sea,that red hot chili peppers from 91 i forget the name,nevermind,in utero,the bends,crooked rain,slanted and enchanted,ten,superunknown,vuglar display of power,play,odelay,mellow gold,the blue album,pinkerton.
Love those albums with all my heart.
Hmm... Well Loveless is definitely in that top for me, with the rest being Souvlaki, Around The Fur, Selected Ambient Works 85-92 along with ...I Care Because You Do, Chaosphere, Dirt as well as the AIC self-titled, Songs of Faith and Devotion, Grace, Music Has The Right To Children, and Ive recently grown quite fond of the debut Korn album as well.
I also enjoy some others of the ones youve mentioned, like the Nirvana albums and Superunknown, along with Bad Motorfinger, The Bends with, of course, OK Computer, but those albums have too many songs which I dont care for, so I cant stand behind the entire albums as such.
I love this
this is great. the best clip of this live i've found so far. good one :)
Man.... 126dB of powerful noise.
dude holy shit. i have tix for the reunion here in chicago! 10 years i've been waiting!
i wonder how many kids lost hearing at this show!
the 'synth' sound is anna kimby...
fuckin beautiful music
If you have heard Kevin's collaboration with Patti Smith, the Coral Sea, then you know very well what immense sound he can generate on his own in a live setting, not to mention that all of that was improvised. I really don't care if he uses samples of his own playing in addition to his and Bilinda's live playing. The samples are the icing on an already rich cake. Using them is the difference between being a four-person and five-person band; if Kevin didn't want to add someone else, that's fine.
agree with the first two ,siamese dream ,loveless and live through this (Hole)
@Spr4ynPr4y Spiderland, Queens of the Stone Age, In Utero, Today's Active Lifestyles, Ten, Superunknown....I could go on for days. The 90's is easily the most amazing period in music history.
i can't find the words....a dream!!!!!
I was there at The T&C!
nice quality lad
This is Shoegaze guys. C'mon!
Shoegazi
Agreed. I'm just gonna say that 'Loveless' is a more important album than OK Computer.
Why?
Ahhh! Only Shallow in F# tuning
best albums of the 90s in my opinion: Ok Computer, Loveless, F#A#∞, Spiderland
It is a shame they took the original of this down but this is a great live recording of the song.
man i was born in a great year.
I liken it to the way I write music now; I sequence everything in the comp as much as possible to edit/arrange the songs.. then when I have it perfect-to my standards-I record the parts. Kevin just did that without the comp, which is actually much more difficult & time consuming.
I don't mean to burst your bubble or anything. but I don't see how they could be spending years in the studio just lounging around for inspiration. It was songwriting, and designing the sound that was in his head.
Well, there is always more than one guitar, the second one being Bilinda's. The exceptions are to here knows when and one of the songs from the third album, new you. I know for a fact that Kevin is producing 90% of the sound in to here knows when himself because at one of the shows, before the song even started, he strummed once or twice and there was that giant moaning whale sound that drives the whole thing.
sounds incredible ❤️
Thanks to the drummies who keep it in time 😎
yes, thanks to the poster. need had the priviledge to see them live, either. my friend said they were the loudest band he ever saw. awesome
video comment: they look great, but their sound needs some work....uh ha...
@YTDominik i dont think any amount of screaming can overpower MBV's volume. seriously.....they handed out earplugs for this concert .
I prefer gish to mellon collie, but mellon collie is great.
Also, in the aeroplane over the sea is genius.
arghh im going on the 29th cant wait either!
Why has the studio version of Only Shallow been removed from RUclips?
#1-Nevermind #2-Loveless #3-The Bends #4-Odelay #5-Grace
Oh my Sunday Bloody Valentine!
you are correct
the pixies made my bloody valentine possible, though i like mbv more. give it up for the pixies
Ay ay ay por favor.
I've been to two of them, one in 2008 and one in 2009. The bulk of the sound was always the band playing live. The songs containing synth or feedback samples were the same as those on record, and as on record, those parts were only supplementary elements in their respective songs. I honestly felt mbv were as good or better than the records on every song. I've been to a lot of shows and seen my share of shoegaze bands, and the Santa Monica mbv gig is my favorite ever.
@Spr4ynPr4y I agree with the first two, imho, Siamese Dream, Loveless and Blind Melon are the best ones of the 90s...
FUCKINGINCREDIBLE
You obviously didn't see Portishead at coachella! Can't wait to see MBV in October.
😩 this comment makes me sad. RIP when-Coachella-was-good.
yeah I just don't have that album yet,but I know all about it
Imma get it ASAP, I just need the money$
I have a LOT of stuff to buy; stuff by Built to Spill, Guided by Voices, Pavement, Animal Collective, Modest Mouse, Broken Social Scene, Yo La Tengo, Godspeed You Black Emperor, Ride, Olivia Tremor control, Dinosaur Jr, and a lot more :p
i love my blood valentine!!!!!!
Dear Spaced81: I'm pissed. I opened up this video, and I heard the pretty outro from my favorite MBV song, What You Want. And I CAN'T FIND IT ON YOUR VIDEO LIST AND I'M ABOUT TO CRY RIGHT NOW. :(((((
They're back together.
Well spotted
@Spr4ynPr4y nevermind, slanted and enchanted, achtung baby, pinkerton also all deserve to be with them
she was genial.
Whirlpool by Chapterhouse was also great
Never mind, Ten and Loveless
3:45 😴🔥
Shoegaze or not this band know how to play together
Yeah, you're probably right... that's pretty much all I have to say :P
September in SF.
Yeah, I wish Belinda played the guitar more because that would have compensated for all the layering that Kevin did on the LP. He just played this and she sang which to me didn't sound that strong. The album has such a layered sound that you really noticed it live. Still a great Seattle gig for me though. Glad they're back and hopefully head to Seattle.
Their live show begs to differ.
Holy fuck.
@Spr4ynPr4y
Also The Soft Bulletin And Laughing Stock.
@Spr4ynPr4y ok computer doesn't belong in the same sentence of the other two.