So many factorials!!!

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  • Опубликовано: 10 янв 2025

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  • @jacemandt
    @jacemandt 4 года назад +22

    What's so amazing about these videos is how these results at first look (to me) well beyond the ability of a mid-level college math major (that was me in college, but I never studied stuff like this), yet they frequently use just basic first-year calculus, applied creatively.

  • @blackpenredpen
    @blackpenredpen 4 года назад +98

    What?!!! This series has the sum in a closed form?!

    • @djvalentedochp
      @djvalentedochp 4 года назад +1

      man where are your videos?

    • @VaradMahashabde
      @VaradMahashabde 4 года назад

      Hello!

    • @HeyKevinYT
      @HeyKevinYT 4 года назад +2

      DJ VALENTE DO CHP If you check his instagram you’ll see he got a surgery recently (appendicitis I think), so he needs time

    • @djvalentedochp
      @djvalentedochp 4 года назад +1

      @@HeyKevinYT thanks for the information 👍

    • @ffggddss
      @ffggddss 4 года назад +1

      Get well soon, bprp!!
      Fred

  • @anastasissfyrides2919
    @anastasissfyrides2919 4 года назад +51

    13:32

  • @Manuel-pd9kf
    @Manuel-pd9kf 4 года назад +30

    This video is gonna get alot of views, I can feel it

  • @williamchurcher9645
    @williamchurcher9645 4 года назад +16

    Just an integration tip I thought I would share: when changing variables, you can multiply the integrand by the modulus of the derivative and make the bounds of the integral ordered, ie the smaller bound on the bottom. The reason for this: when doing change of basis in multivariable calculus, we use the modulus of the Jacobian. If you just use the one dimensional version, you get what I just described. I personally find it easier to work with, but it's up to you.

    • @OH-pc5jx
      @OH-pc5jx 4 года назад +1

      Yes - unless the derivative is zero within the range, in which case you’re ✨ trouble ✨

    • @OH-pc5jx
      @OH-pc5jx 4 года назад

      Usually a sign of a bad substation tho so I don’t think it comes up too often

    • @williamchurcher9645
      @williamchurcher9645 4 года назад +1

      @@OH-pc5jx yes well change of basis theorem doesnt hold if the derivative is zero anywhere. I suppose you may be able to split the domain of the integral before substitution, but it may get messy ;)

    • @OH-pc5jx
      @OH-pc5jx 4 года назад

      William Churcher yeah in 1D you can get around it with a bit of thought but in nD I think I’d just use a different substitution

  • @holyshit922
    @holyshit922 27 дней назад +1

    If we want to do this in other direction
    1/sqrt(1-x^2) - by binomial expansion
    integrate to get arc sin(x)
    Use Cauchy product to get series for arcsin(x)/sqrt(1-x^2)
    but we would have to deal with double sum

  • @pikupal8996
    @pikupal8996 4 года назад +22

    Sir can you do a series of lesbegue integration and measure theory , functional analysis?

    • @shanmugasundaram9688
      @shanmugasundaram9688 4 года назад

      A nice convergence of summation of proper fractions.The definite integration of sine power function is mysteriously connected to the summation.Very interesting.

  • @timurpryadilin8830
    @timurpryadilin8830 4 года назад +3

    Very claasic video my Michael. Excellent!

  • @filipchris245
    @filipchris245 4 года назад +9

    15:05 Nice clothing change!

  • @goodplacetostop2973
    @goodplacetostop2973 4 года назад +37

    28:41

  • @tobiasgorgen7592
    @tobiasgorgen7592 4 года назад +42

    Michael, you have a typo in your thumbnail.
    the factorial in the thumbnail is inside the brackets

    • @sauravthegreat8533
      @sauravthegreat8533 4 года назад +5

      I saw that at first and then thought “infinity, how is this video so long”

    • @ffggddss
      @ffggddss 4 года назад

      There are two factorial signs in the expression in the thumbnail; one inside parentheses, the other outside. Both are correct.
      The summand is just 1/C(2n,n).
      Fred

    • @sauravthegreat8533
      @sauravthegreat8533 4 года назад +4

      ffggddss no He changed the thumbnail, previously it was (2n!) which is completely different from (2n)!

    • @ffggddss
      @ffggddss 4 года назад

      @@sauravthegreat8533 I see... Well that *does* make a difference.
      Fred

  • @QmcometdudeShardMaster
    @QmcometdudeShardMaster 4 года назад +1

    As always, a wonderful video. Thank you for the great math content!

  • @vh73sy
    @vh73sy 4 года назад +2

    The result can be expressed as
    ²F¹[1,1;0.5;(1/2²)]
    F is the generalized hypergeometric function
    wolfram notation
    Hypergeometricpfq[{1,1},{0.5},0.25]

    • @jimskea224
      @jimskea224 4 года назад +1

      But ²F¹ is the usual "original" (Gauss's) hypergeometric function. It's only really "generalised" if the indices are different from 2 and 1. So much so that the indices 2 and 1 are usually omitted in this case and one simply write F(1,1; 1/2;1/4)

  • @shanmugasundaram9688
    @shanmugasundaram9688 4 года назад

    A nice convergence of summation of proper fractions plus one.The definite integration of sine power function is mysteriously connected to the summation.Very interesting.

  • @kushsinghal1998
    @kushsinghal1998 4 года назад +9

    Hey I can't wait for the video on the dominated convergence theorem. I'm struggling with it quite a bit

  • @OH-pc5jx
    @OH-pc5jx 4 года назад +1

    Very nice! Wouldn’t know where to start without the hints ngl

  • @duncankoepke7499
    @duncankoepke7499 4 года назад +1

    I would love a video about the dominating convergence theorem

  • @gnomeba12
    @gnomeba12 4 года назад +1

    Would love to see some videos on some of the more sensitive convergence tests like Gauss's test

  • @fmakofmako
    @fmakofmako 4 года назад +1

    Yes please to the video on dominated convergeance theorem.

  • @VerSalieri
    @VerSalieri 4 года назад

    You are starting to remind me of Sami Hamiyyee.... my favorite professor.. Thank you.

  • @bsuperbrain
    @bsuperbrain 4 года назад +2

    Beautiful. How did you find these three lemmas?

  • @matthias7790
    @matthias7790 4 года назад +1

    27:56 was that a burp?

  • @alejandrojimenez108
    @alejandrojimenez108 4 года назад +3

    How did you get this? Like seriously it seems so arbitrary but boom everything works and fits in perfectly

  • @ТимофейБакшеев-ь8р
    @ТимофейБакшеев-ь8р 4 года назад

    Oh my God! It’s awesome! Good job

  • @iridium8562
    @iridium8562 4 года назад +3

    19:02 but by writing 1-x^2 as sqrt(1-x^2)^2 you are assuming that x =< 1, right..?

  • @birdboat5647
    @birdboat5647 4 года назад +2

    a lot of prep pays off

  • @fartoxedm5638
    @fartoxedm5638 3 года назад +2

    I think you would better mentioned that formula of infinite sum which you used is only worth for convergent sums
    of course it is arcsin so x is between -1 and 1
    however it was not really obvious

  • @sergiokorochinsky49
    @sergiokorochinsky49 3 года назад

    The general case is:
    Sum[(n!)^p/(q n)!,{n,0,Infinity}]=pF(q-1)[1,1,...,1;1/q,2/q,...,(q-1)/q;q^q]
    where pFq is the Hypergeometric function.
    The particular sum in the video is 2F1[1,1;1/2;1/4]

  • @jonathangrey6354
    @jonathangrey6354 4 года назад

    Please a video on the dominated convergence theorem!

  • @steve2817
    @steve2817 4 года назад +10

    Factory-al.

  • @mxminecraft9410
    @mxminecraft9410 11 месяцев назад

    What's the second tool called
    And iis there any other way of proving it ?

  • @willianmarconbicaio6125
    @willianmarconbicaio6125 4 года назад +1

    Amazing!!
    Shouldn't the result be pi/9/3^0.5 + 4/3 though? I can't figure where the 2 in the numerator comes from

  • @yossefswelam265
    @yossefswelam265 4 года назад

    15:02 magic

  • @aswinibanerjee6261
    @aswinibanerjee6261 4 года назад +9

    Write the fraction as a beta function then change the order of sum and beta integral.
    Then do the sum first (which will be an easy geometric series)
    Then do the integral

    • @geometrydashmega238
      @geometrydashmega238 4 года назад

      Thank you for your comment. I thought about gamma functions at first when seeing the problem but I had forgotten about beta. I tried it as you said and indeed, a bit long to compute but very easy approach

    • @pacojacomemaura2129
      @pacojacomemaura2129 3 года назад

      Very great idea! Using Beta function properties, I obtain that the general term of the series is B(n,n)*n/2. One has to be careful, because Beta funcion isn't defined in B(0,0), and is necessary to pull apart the first term, 1, from the rest of the series.
      Then, using the Beta funcion definition and Lebesgue's dominated convergence theorem, I exchange the integral symbol for the sumation symbol. Now, the series inside the integral is the derivative of a geometric series (the term is (n+1)(t(1-t))^n, from n=0 to infinity).
      This series is equal to 1/(1-t(1-t))^2 when t \in (0,1). So the initial series is equal now to 1+1/2 \int_0^1 1/(1-t(1-t))^2dt. This integral isn't funny at all, but can be done and gives the same result obtained by professor Penn.

  • @peytonglass745
    @peytonglass745 4 года назад +1

    please do a proof of the dominated convergence theorem!!!

    • @pikupal8996
      @pikupal8996 4 года назад +2

      He have also used the differentiation theorem of power series.He should also do a video of that.

  • @noway2831
    @noway2831 4 года назад

    How would one approach the sum of (2k choose k) * (-4)^(-k) from k=0 to infinity? I got to the sum from the integral of e^(-x) erf(sqrt(x)) dx from x=0 to infinity. That integral has a surprisingly simple closed form, and I imagine its evaluation is quite elegant. The sum I have verified is correct, and I obtained it through the taylor series for e^x and some gamma function identities.

  • @mrmathcambodia2451
    @mrmathcambodia2451 3 года назад

    So good solution, I like this video .

  • @RickyKwokMath
    @RickyKwokMath 4 года назад +3

    Funny, usually when factorials appear in infinite series, e usually shows up. This time it's pi.

    • @sergiokorochinsky49
      @sergiokorochinsky49 3 года назад +1

      Try the numerator without the square...
      Sum[(n!)/(2 n)!,{n,0,Infinity}]

  • @mrflibble5717
    @mrflibble5717 4 года назад

    Excellent! Michael would you do a presentation on the Dominated Convergence Theorem, also what do you recommend as a good reference for detail on it?
    rgds, Rod

  • @FrankDelVecchio
    @FrankDelVecchio 2 года назад

    Can you evaluate the integral log(x)/(1-x^2) from 0 to 1 by means of a contour?

  • @nontth5355
    @nontth5355 4 года назад

    Do a video about catalan number please

  • @ramanakv3272
    @ramanakv3272 4 года назад

    First definit integral can be easily derived by walleys method than induction

  • @hjdbr1094
    @hjdbr1094 4 года назад +1

    Could you prove that (2n)!!/(2n-1)!!~sqrt(πn) please?

  • @xuwei0126
    @xuwei0126 4 года назад

    Hello, I want ti know how did you find those tools? Because if I have to solve this problem from nothing how can I find those tools?

  • @gardenmenuuu
    @gardenmenuuu 4 года назад +2

    Sir its great

  • @VaradMahashabde
    @VaradMahashabde 4 года назад +1

    Did anyone else notice when he changed shirts after the second tool?

  • @urumomaos2478
    @urumomaos2478 2 года назад +1

    Me: doing the exercise
    Michael: and thats a good place to stop
    Me: okay michael senpai :3 i will stop 4 u uwu

  • @goblin5003
    @goblin5003 2 года назад

    Suggestion: evaluate the same sum but instead of (2n!) in the denominator, put (2n+1)!

  • @soundsleep4119
    @soundsleep4119 Год назад

    Enough Sound explanation....but may I get the same series by the help of fourier series? May I get a periodic function which may help me?...eagerly waiting for your reply.... From India ♥️

  • @rontiemens2553
    @rontiemens2553 4 года назад

    In your title you forgot the rejoinder, "... so little time!!!". Seriously, you put out great content.

  • @coycatrett2303
    @coycatrett2303 4 года назад +1

    Dat burp doe

  • @ffggddss
    @ffggddss 4 года назад

    Remarkable result! Remarkable that you can even get a result! Especially seeing what it takes to get it!! Might I ask how you came across this result?
    2π/(9√3) + 4/3 = 1.736399858718715077909795168364923...
    Finally, kudos for your teaching style. It is really exemplary!
    Fred

  • @General12th
    @General12th 2 года назад

    15:06 Everything changed when the red-shirt nation attacked.

  • @mohamedelkhmissi3504
    @mohamedelkhmissi3504 4 года назад

    15:05

  • @fredericmonrasividiella7394
    @fredericmonrasividiella7394 4 года назад

    for me it is interesting to listen to the whole demonstration one day and then (one day, two days later) go back to listening to it 1.5 times faster. complete understanding. thank you Mr. Penn!

  • @nicholashernandez4367
    @nicholashernandez4367 3 года назад

    Hello, I have a question. What is (319!)! ?

  • @pappaflammyboi5799
    @pappaflammyboi5799 3 года назад

    @Michael Penn Your answer is wrong, it's:
    pi/(6×sqrt(3)) + 4/3

  • @maxblack493
    @maxblack493 3 года назад +2

    This remind me the beta function.

  • @vh73sy
    @vh73sy 4 года назад +1

    In general
    Sum( (n!)^b / (b n)! ), n=0 to inf
    for b>=2
    can be expressed as the generalized hypergeometric function p F q
    b F b-1 [1, ... (b times) ... ,1 ; 1/b, 2/b, ... , (b-1)/b ; 1/(b^b)]

  • @ramanakv3272
    @ramanakv3272 4 года назад

    The teacher has to tell where term
    Wise differentiation ,integration is applicable

  • @ethanbeachy6593
    @ethanbeachy6593 4 года назад

    His answer and the way I did it numerically in Matlab gives a consistent result. I wouldn't have gotten it analytically though... This is really good!

  • @Jack_Callcott_AU
    @Jack_Callcott_AU 2 года назад

    Isn't math(s) amazing. One never knows what will turn up in series. Here we have pi again!

  • @riadsouissi
    @riadsouissi 4 года назад +3

    Nice problem.
    Did it differently though (after looking at the video, there are some similarities)
    - defined sum y(x) but adding x^(2n-1) to the sequence and starting at n=1 (so our final sum = y(1)+1).
    - after some manipulation and derivation, I get a differential equation y'(4-x^2)-3xy=2 with y(0)=0
    - Using integration factor, I get in the end y(x) = 2(4-x^2)^(-3/2) * integral(sqrt(4-t^2)dt, t=0..x). Which can be integrated with simple substitution t=sin(u).
    - End result y(x) = 1/(4-x^2)^(3/2) * (4*arcsin(x/2)+x(4-x^2)^(1/2).
    Substituting x=1, I get same result.

    • @Notthatkindofdr
      @Notthatkindofdr 4 года назад

      That's close to how I did it too, though your equation was slightly simpler than mine.

    • @diegohcsantos
      @diegohcsantos 2 года назад

      Amazing! Could you explain how did you found this ODE? Also, why add x^(2n-1) instead of x^n?

  • @stedis7259
    @stedis7259 3 года назад +1

    Hello Michael! Where is this problem from? Was it from a math competition?

  • @CarlosFloresP
    @CarlosFloresP Год назад

    13:33 burp xd

  • @vh73sy
    @vh73sy 4 года назад +2

    the way it's written on the post cover (2n!) is wrong, it leads to divergence. The right notation is (2n)! as it appears on the board in the video. 2 x n! is not (2n)!

  • @gvomet1
    @gvomet1 4 года назад

    It seems so strange to obtain a sum as the result ....

  • @jotaro6390
    @jotaro6390 4 года назад

    Nice

  • @Walczyk
    @Walczyk 4 года назад

    this one is cute, reminds me of quantum mechanics prroblems

  • @khiemngo1098
    @khiemngo1098 8 месяцев назад

    Nice problem and thanks for sharing this video! By the way, there's a minor mistake in that the derivative of arcsin(x) should be 1/sqrt(1 - x^2).

  • @tobiasgorgen7592
    @tobiasgorgen7592 4 года назад +1

    Even though the answer is a closed form. The fact that is a sum leaves me... Unfulfilled

    • @schweinmachtbree1013
      @schweinmachtbree1013 4 года назад +2

      you're welcome to take a common denominator lol, unless you would also be unfulfilled by the resulting sum in the numerator xD

    • @tobiasgorgen7592
      @tobiasgorgen7592 4 года назад

      @@angelmendez-rivera351 it definitely is, don't get me wrong. By the way Michael prefaced the video I expected the sum to be straight up pi or maybe pi ^ k or something. Having a closed form be it convoluted as it may be is always amazing starting with such weird sums

  • @PriyaGupta-sr1iy
    @PriyaGupta-sr1iy 4 года назад

    7th comment

  • @parameshwarhazra2725
    @parameshwarhazra2725 4 года назад +2

    13:33 Michael penn remain silent for 2sec straight giving respect to Chadwick Boseman

    • @parameshwarhazra2725
      @parameshwarhazra2725 4 года назад

      @Adam Romanov are you Russian

    • @IoT_
      @IoT_ 4 года назад

      @@parameshwarhazra2725 по-моему, нет.

    • @parameshwarhazra2725
      @parameshwarhazra2725 4 года назад

      @@IoT_ what did you say please tell me in English

    • @IoT_
      @IoT_ 4 года назад

      @@parameshwarhazra2725 I said, in my opinion he's not а Russian, but allegedly he knows it a bit.

    • @parameshwarhazra2725
      @parameshwarhazra2725 4 года назад

      @@IoT_ oh okay