The capacitive rubber domes are subject to failure due to the ingress of debris under normal operation, ingressed debris can short the capacitive connection causing erratic performance, after 3 years of continuous usage I cleaned mine and broke the coaxial cable connecting the board, the coaxial cable is marked up 100x relative to the domestic market, these failures have culminated in numerous complaints of quality control issues on forums dedicated to keyboards such as this. the number one reason for capacitive keyboards is N-key rollover which isn't as important these days, glad to see an offering from them that involves modern switching technology that doesn't require dismantling the keyboard
Why mechanical switches? I don't understand. the electro capacitive topre switches are one of the reason HHKB was loved, and one of the reason why I loved them.
Dear HHKB There have been users who repeatedly experienced situations where the keyboard would 'freeze' temporarily. Playing around with the Studio (firmware B0.06), here are a couple things I've noticed: There are four distinctive categories of action - trackpoint, keypress alphas, keypress mods, and gestures. Trackpoint (including the mouse buttons) works with both keypresses and gestures. The trackpoint should basically always work. Keypresses are 6KRO + mods, same as Pro HHKBs. Keypress alpha and Gestures do not work simultaneously. Different gestures do not work simultaneously. If you're actively typing (such that there a minimal delay between each keypress), gestures will not activate. If you're using gestures, it will lock out the alphas and other gestures, but you can still use mods. What does this mean? It is possible that the "freezing" people are experiencing are the lockouts between gestures and alpha keypresses. This would make it more of a "design flaw", as oppose to a defect. I have found that a couple of times, if I'm lazing about, I might be resting my hands on the edges of the HHKB, it triggers the lockout. It's rare, but it does happen for me. Also, when I use the Studio with my wristrest, or if I'm typing seriously with my hands hovering, it has never happened. In fact, I've dailyed the Studio for over 6 weeks without issues, but I recently took away my wristrest which altered my typing style. This is when I noticed this issue. As another note, I only use my Studio wired. I'm sure there are a lot more complex scenerios - for example, it's easy to imagine that if you're using wireless, an interruption in the signal during these lockout periods might cause the OS or firmware to behave unpredictably. Anyways, if you're experiencing random freezing, take a moment to consider the position of your hand at that moment. You might be lightly touching / resting on the keyboard and activating a gesture and locking out the alphas. Maybe this is the issue you're experiencing, as opposed something being defective. Not super sure what the solution would be honestly. I personally think the sensitivity and delay is a bit on the low and slow side. Touch-based input is always a bit...touchy.
Their first product since the Ricoh takeover.... and now its not electrocapacitive, they have somehow missed or ignored one of the reasons why people buy HHKB... shame.
Pretty dissapointed in the lack of topre.... But at least with the hotswap I can swap out to good switches if I dont like these. I like the trackpoint feature, could be really useful.. But without the topre it better be less expensive than the lowest cost of the current line
They lost the plot a long time ago. It took them a decade to realize that bluetooth and wireless was standard, and they still don't have programmable keys on their other boards.
This is such a bad product, they dont even know their target audience at all. Topre and quality was the main selling point of the HHKB. Many users, like myself would have liked to see 2u supported keys and the slider stems changed to cherry mx for keycap compatability. Its just an effort to cut costs using mechanical switches, hotswap pcbs are poor quality. Way to let a a new PM ruin a product which has be right for so many years.
Got one, it is quite nice, they really got the feel of those linear switches right for Topre users. I always loved trackpoints, so having that with mechanical mouse buttons is great too, too bad you cannot seem to use the tackpoint as a button too though, I miss the ThinkPad one still.. I disabled bottom gesture pads as they activate from the palm interaction too easily, but side ones are useful-ish. I also got the blank key caps, and those feel very nice too. I think I am going to sell my HHKB Hybrid, I barely use it after getting this bad boy.
Correction, the trackpoint can be set to act as a button from the HHKB Keymap Tool, so all good on that front. Two remaining issues with it: 1. How to wake it up without togglign the flimsy power switch after it turns of from idling, and 2. how to make it switch to USB automatically when it is off from idling and cable gets connected (like Pro 2 Hybrid does).
Japanese companies occasionally create groundbreaking products, but they also sometimes come up with baffling ones. This is clearly the latter. They added the black version of the ThinkPad's TrackPoint to avoid moving your hand to use the mouse, but then why would you need to move your hand away from the keys to touch the gesture area on the side of the keyboard?
I have no idea who they think they are selling this to. I have 3 topre keyboards - HHKB Hybrid Pro S, Realforce R2 PFU, Leopold FC660C… I went through many a wobbly scratchy “mechanical switch” before I experienced topre heaven. Good Lord what a disaster.
If now HHKB could make a keyboard where all the keys from the left of the Q staggered column and the right side of the P staggered column would be two staggered columns between the T and Y staggered columns, in combination with a 4-split space bar, and separate keys for the ? and /, as well as for the : and ; and also for + and =. That would be ideal.
I hope they'll be updating the firmware and software on the existing Hybrid board to support all the additional features the Studio has (i.e. 3 function layers).
So so so disappointed😢....can get any keyboards with mx switches with the same layout nowadays. Topre version is the only form of apology I can accept.
Jesus, that voice-over... the worst choice possible. That whole ad is horrible. Clicking on this I thought "yeah, maybe I'll buy one". Now there's no way I'll ever buy any of your products
I think is great! I'm guessing they are using hot swappable switches to increase the number of posible customers, which is good, but also I hope they'll make a topre version of it
@@candyslug7360 I do, if I get a Quality Product in return. ;) May be worth mentioning that I have three HHKB Pro 2's (two regular, one Type-S), three HHKB Hybrid Type S (one at home, one for work and one for the road) and with I'll probably get two Studios. Too bad the Studio's manufactured in China, though.
No Topre keyswitches makes this a no go for me. I'll stick with my HHKB Pro Hybrid Type-S.
@@alexc2348 Thanks. Yeah, I've never used a Cherry MX board that compared to Topre at all, IMO. I know a lot of people like them though.
@@alexc2348 BTW, looks like it's $329...
same here
The capacitive rubber domes are subject to failure due to the ingress of debris under normal operation, ingressed debris can short the capacitive connection causing erratic performance, after 3 years of continuous usage I cleaned mine and broke the coaxial cable connecting the board, the coaxial cable is marked up 100x relative to the domestic market, these failures have culminated in numerous complaints of quality control issues on forums dedicated to keyboards such as this. the number one reason for capacitive keyboards is N-key rollover which isn't as important these days, glad to see an offering from them that involves modern switching technology that doesn't require dismantling the keyboard
@@PaynePthat is complete user error lol. i have an HHKB from 2008 that works perfectly and i know people who have hhkbs from even earlier
Why mechanical switches? I don't understand. the electro capacitive topre switches are one of the reason HHKB was loved, and one of the reason why I loved them.
They’re the best feeling mechanical switches I’ve used
Dear HHKB
There have been users who repeatedly experienced situations where the keyboard would 'freeze' temporarily.
Playing around with the Studio (firmware B0.06), here are a couple things I've noticed:
There are four distinctive categories of action - trackpoint, keypress alphas, keypress mods, and gestures.
Trackpoint (including the mouse buttons) works with both keypresses and gestures. The trackpoint should basically always work.
Keypresses are 6KRO + mods, same as Pro HHKBs.
Keypress alpha and Gestures do not work simultaneously.
Different gestures do not work simultaneously.
If you're actively typing (such that there a minimal delay between each keypress), gestures will not activate.
If you're using gestures, it will lock out the alphas and other gestures, but you can still use mods.
What does this mean? It is possible that the "freezing" people are experiencing are the lockouts between gestures and alpha keypresses. This would make it more of a "design flaw", as oppose to a defect.
I have found that a couple of times, if I'm lazing about, I might be resting my hands on the edges of the HHKB, it triggers the lockout. It's rare, but it does happen for me.
Also, when I use the Studio with my wristrest, or if I'm typing seriously with my hands hovering, it has never happened. In fact, I've dailyed the Studio for over 6 weeks without issues, but I recently took away my wristrest which altered my typing style. This is when I noticed this issue. As another note, I only use my Studio wired.
I'm sure there are a lot more complex scenerios - for example, it's easy to imagine that if you're using wireless, an interruption in the signal during these lockout periods might cause the OS or firmware to behave unpredictably.
Anyways, if you're experiencing random freezing, take a moment to consider the position of your hand at that moment. You might be lightly touching / resting on the keyboard and activating a gesture and locking out the alphas. Maybe this is the issue you're experiencing, as opposed something being defective.
Not super sure what the solution would be honestly. I personally think the sensitivity and delay is a bit on the low and slow side. Touch-based input is always a bit...touchy.
wtfffff why didnt they make this topre????? what were they thinking?
I thought the only reason people buy a hhkb is because of preference of topre switches
When you don't know who your target audience is
Their first product since the Ricoh takeover.... and now its not electrocapacitive, they have somehow missed or ignored one of the reasons why people buy HHKB... shame.
Pretty dissapointed in the lack of topre.... But at least with the hotswap I can swap out to good switches if I dont like these. I like the trackpoint feature, could be really useful..
But without the topre it better be less expensive than the lowest cost of the current line
Its not
This is so off brand. Why did they remove topre?
They lost the plot a long time ago. It took them a decade to realize that bluetooth and wireless was standard, and they still don't have programmable keys on their other boards.
This is such a bad product, they dont even know their target audience at all. Topre and quality was the main selling point of the HHKB. Many users, like myself would have liked to see 2u supported keys and the slider stems changed to cherry mx for keycap compatability. Its just an effort to cut costs using mechanical switches, hotswap pcbs are poor quality. Way to let a a new PM ruin a product which has be right for so many years.
Exactly. They're charging $300 for a 60% mechanical keyboard. That's crazy.
This is sacrilege.
Looks like complete trash. I might by another of the older version in case they stop making them.
I will be doing the same, ill stock up on some pro2's
Why no Topre? Leave the gimmicks to the amateurs.
Got one, it is quite nice, they really got the feel of those linear switches right for Topre users. I always loved trackpoints, so having that with mechanical mouse buttons is great too, too bad you cannot seem to use the tackpoint as a button too though, I miss the ThinkPad one still.. I disabled bottom gesture pads as they activate from the palm interaction too easily, but side ones are useful-ish. I also got the blank key caps, and those feel very nice too. I think I am going to sell my HHKB Hybrid, I barely use it after getting this bad boy.
Correction, the trackpoint can be set to act as a button from the HHKB Keymap Tool, so all good on that front. Two remaining issues with it: 1. How to wake it up without togglign the flimsy power switch after it turns of from idling, and 2. how to make it switch to USB automatically when it is off from idling and cable gets connected (like Pro 2 Hybrid does).
Japanese companies occasionally create groundbreaking products, but they also sometimes come up with baffling ones. This is clearly the latter. They added the black version of the ThinkPad's TrackPoint to avoid moving your hand to use the mouse, but then why would you need to move your hand away from the keys to touch the gesture area on the side of the keyboard?
good point. should have put 1 or 2 physical scroll wheels on the front side just below the mouse buttons. your thumbs are there anyway. it's perfect
I have no idea who they think they are selling this to. I have 3 topre keyboards - HHKB Hybrid Pro S, Realforce R2 PFU, Leopold FC660C… I went through many a wobbly scratchy “mechanical switch” before I experienced topre heaven.
Good Lord what a disaster.
I’m guessing this is targeting Japanese market
Lucious Ford
just make a hhkb with a cnc machined aluminum chassis please, that's all we need. no i'm not buying a grail.
If now HHKB could make a keyboard where all the keys from the left of the Q staggered column and the right side of the P staggered column would be two staggered columns between the T and Y staggered columns, in combination with a 4-split space bar, and separate keys for the ? and /, as well as for the : and ; and also for + and =. That would be ideal.
Something in far…
Folk from Tex keyboards with Yoda and Shinobi: “is it joke?”
😂😂😂
I hope they'll be updating the firmware and software on the existing Hybrid board to support all the additional features the Studio has (i.e. 3 function layers).
So so so disappointed😢....can get any keyboards with mx switches with the same layout nowadays. Topre version is the only form of apology I can accept.
Is it possible to configure home row modifications for this?
If you want to extract more money from your fans, please try
- ortho HHKB
- split HHKB
- aluminum HHKB
in any case made in Japan with Topre switches.
wtf is this. i forgot bringing mouse and was looking for the way to use mouse mode in hkkb and this popped up wtfff i need this
The dot makes it real tough to change key cap sets. Really the only reason to go away from Topre. Couldve just done MX Stems
As creative as using ketchup on spaghetti.
can you change this to other layout like dvorak and colemak?
Jesus, that voice-over... the worst choice possible. That whole ad is horrible.
Clicking on this I thought "yeah, maybe I'll buy one". Now there's no way I'll ever buy any of your products
it sounds like the old 90s info videos they show you in school
wish i could see the dislikes
I think is great! I'm guessing they are using hot swappable switches to increase the number of posible customers, which is good, but also I hope they'll make a topre version of it
still not play/pause option to remap, really sad
If you are on mac, you can program it on Raycast or Alfred or Keyboard Mastro :relaxed:
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where topre
Parker Prairie
Looks nice but no support for Linux ....so.. a big no for me.
Russel Inlet
😅 have always though the right function key was 5 miles away from my pinky.
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Cole Port
this is cringe
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This looks amazing. Love it.
HHKB was excellent with, but never limited to, Topre Switches.
This will be a Day 1 Purchase due to the Trackpoint. Luke Smith should take notice!
Finally a sensible comment.
if u like burning money
Its cheaper to buy an old thinkpad if you want that feature...
@@candyslug7360 I do, if I get a Quality Product in return. ;) May be worth mentioning that I have three HHKB Pro 2's (two regular, one Type-S), three HHKB Hybrid Type S (one at home, one for work and one for the road) and with I'll probably get two Studios. Too bad the Studio's manufactured in China, though.
@@stevie4347 Yes, but I'm singularily a macOS guy for work, so HHKB Studio it is.
Bo Shore
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saikyo keyboard desu!
Correction: _saikou_ ki-bo-do desu
ty@@FindecanorNotGmail
white version pls
why is this 300 bucks man
Wow this is amazing , but where is backlight though?
If you can type without looking, there is no need for lighting or even legends.
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