Tbh, Witch Hunter Captain to me feels like a better ranged class than Bounty Hunter for anything that isn't specifically chugging down a concentration potion and deleting a monster/boss.
So with just tagging adding up with (range) headshot/critical hit, Witch Hunter Captain is a better ranged class against Elite, Special & Boss ... huh. At least i still enjoy shooting horde with Bounty Hunter more, but i got more reason to play WHC more often now!
i know this video is a month old but id like to point out its not only rapier and greatsword that work well with WHC. flail SHINES on this career with flense, due to its heavies having massive cleave you can apply a DoT to many enemies in a single swing, and since said heavy is completely horizontal, if you crit on a swing into a storm vermin patrol, you can easily wipe out 5 or 6 in one swing. its lights are also something to mention as theyre all strikes going in a downward motion, making getting headshots very easy on them. the push attack is also very good due to it being horizontal like the heavies and having high cleave. use flail on WHC, believe me, shit is strong as hell
I always felt like Witchhunter is very underrated. Just default setup (ofc with according power level) Witchhunter feels super powerful right of the gate. My favourite always will be Merc and Hunts tho, love me Markus.
handmaiden is A maybe B but she only struggles vs bosses only in cata for damage but is the safest class vs all bosses. Once you understand shield and spear being op. Push attack-heavy attack stagger locks a group of 11 chaos warriors easily soloing them as long as you get to rotate around them if you try standing your ground all classes will fail. its a little slow but aslong as the heavy attack lands on headshot you are going to notice them all dying at once after a good 20 secs beat down.
Not even mentioning that FK has so much stagger he can literally stunlock berserkers with light 1 and also give increased damage against staggerd enemies wich basically allows your team to do something close to 50% damage( depending on talents) to anything you stagger. You did him dirty. Nvm you actually bumped him up to his rightfull place on A tier later on.
Bulwark is a bad Talent, as is Mainstay. Bulwark doesn't last long enough and damage boost is too small, both should be increased by 50% like in the Tourney mod and then perhaps it'll be okay. Enhanced Power is his only viable Stagger Talent in the normal game for either healping reach ranged breakpoints easier or even Stagger breakpoints for cirtain builds.
I've been sleeping on Pyromancer and while I do agree she needs a rework, I've been enjoying playing her a lot on Cata. The huge crit makes the normal sword really viable and fun, and the bolt staff breakpoints are pretty good, though I am aware the flaming flail is the better choice (I'm just bored of it) With swift slaying and that amount of crit it's actually pretty great lol. Maybe not enough to kick her up a whole tier, but still.
I've been playing nothing but pyromancer for days and every melee except fire sword is amazing with pyromancer on catacylsm if you haven't already tried. Yes, even the crowbill. Altough i prefer running coruscation with crit refund instead of bolt just for that lucky 10 pools of fire without venting.
@@TheHerrDoktorr Not really, Fire Sword is only good at Stagger control and is best on Battle Wizard especially if using Famished Flames to boost DoT damage, you are only limiting your damage potential on Pyro/Unchained using Fire Sword. Sword or Flail are best on Pyro, Flail best on Unchained.
Considering you dabbled in voice lines extraction, do you have any idea if Hand of the Shadow Crown from TWW2 has any diplomacy/campaign lines? I remember modding Alith Anar's god awful voice and replacing it with Hand's one but I'm pretty sure I've only found battle voice lines.
Honestly i would put warrior priest s and zealot a. Warrior priest is very stromg and unkillable and supports fantasticly. He is awsome in solo and group play easily.
Informative video. I like how you explain your choices for the different difficulties as well. For that however I’d recommend breaking up the video into chapters, in the future, because 36 minutes is pretty lengthy to sit through for a tier list video imo. Some may end up skipping forward not realizing how you’re doing the tier list explanation.
just try to play with players who are used to playing on the highest difficulties and they will all say that grailknight is one of the best or the best character, this is obvious to anyone,this dude is dumb 🤣
@@airmandawn2638 Yeah, and that doesn't change that Grail Knight didn't get bumped up to at minimum A tier during the shifting towards the middle of the video. Keeping GK at C for the main list and only bumping him up to A for Cata is just disrespectful to GK in general.
To me, BH miserable survivability and bad melee performance makes him B tier. You can cheese him up to A/S with the griffon foot pistol and the right talent and trait, but that could be done for most careers. Solid B, because he's usualy the first guy to die in a team.
Zealot in normal gameplay is not S tier, sure he's S tier in Weaves, but not normal game mode, WHC far outshines him with his kit. Everytime i play him, I'm always saying I could be doing more if I was WHC. Plus you can't play him if there are bots cus they'll heal you, if there is a Waystalker you better hope they aren't using team heal talent and it's risky playing with a grail knight. So personally I'd place Zealot in low A or high B tier.
Watched the vid. GK in C tier made me laugh so hard I had to skip the rest. Saw then that you put zealot in S tier. Idk if we are playing the same game man. Funny vid though.
but still pretty sure no matter whos tier list it is, Handmaiden is ALWAYS S+tier. can clutch any situation and shes so much more than a shield spamming cc bot. i cant think of a single weapon in elfs arsenal that when equipped to HM doesnt work. even that god awful elven axe feels good
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Yup I always noticed that new players sleep on Witchhunt.
They never understand just how good his class is.
Tbh, Witch Hunter Captain to me feels like a better ranged class than Bounty Hunter for anything that isn't specifically chugging down a concentration potion and deleting a monster/boss.
straight facts. the 20% damage buff on tagged enemies let's you and your team hit excellent break points.
So with just tagging adding up with (range) headshot/critical hit, Witch Hunter Captain is a better ranged class against Elite, Special & Boss ... huh.
At least i still enjoy shooting horde with Bounty Hunter more, but i got more reason to play WHC more often now!
I fucking die every time you say grail man or foot man. That's hillarious.
i know this video is a month old but id like to point out its not only rapier and greatsword that work well with WHC. flail SHINES on this career with flense, due to its heavies having massive cleave you can apply a DoT to many enemies in a single swing, and since said heavy is completely horizontal, if you crit on a swing into a storm vermin patrol, you can easily wipe out 5 or 6 in one swing. its lights are also something to mention as theyre all strikes going in a downward motion, making getting headshots very easy on them. the push attack is also very good due to it being horizontal like the heavies and having high cleave. use flail on WHC, believe me, shit is strong as hell
I always felt like Witchhunter is very underrated. Just default setup (ofc with according power level) Witchhunter feels super powerful right of the gate. My favourite always will be Merc and Hunts tho, love me Markus.
handmaiden is A maybe B but she only struggles vs bosses only in cata for damage but is the safest class vs all bosses. Once you understand shield and spear being op. Push attack-heavy attack stagger locks a group of 11 chaos warriors easily soloing them as long as you get to rotate around them if you try standing your ground all classes will fail. its a little slow but aslong as the heavy attack lands on headshot you are going to notice them all dying at once after a good 20 secs beat down.
Props for Vinesauce Joel - and for a perfect way to kill some time!
Every class bardin has is S tier lol. Dwarves in warhammer are op as fuk
took me a week to work this out, can’t stop using the little man now
Good to see you back
Not even mentioning that FK has so much stagger he can literally stunlock berserkers with light 1 and also give increased damage against staggerd enemies wich basically allows your team to do something close to 50% damage( depending on talents) to anything you stagger. You did him dirty.
Nvm you actually bumped him up to his rightfull place on A tier later on.
Bulwark is a bad Talent, as is Mainstay. Bulwark doesn't last long enough and damage boost is too small, both should be increased by 50% like in the Tourney mod and then perhaps it'll be okay. Enhanced Power is his only viable Stagger Talent in the normal game for either healping reach ranged breakpoints easier or even Stagger breakpoints for cirtain builds.
Idk if you’ll ever make more vidoes but the music and layout was super enjoyable to watch
I've been sleeping on Pyromancer and while I do agree she needs a rework, I've been enjoying playing her a lot on Cata. The huge crit makes the normal sword really viable and fun, and the bolt staff breakpoints are pretty good, though I am aware the flaming flail is the better choice (I'm just bored of it) With swift slaying and that amount of crit it's actually pretty great lol. Maybe not enough to kick her up a whole tier, but still.
I've been playing nothing but pyromancer for days and every melee except fire sword is amazing with pyromancer on catacylsm if you haven't already tried. Yes, even the crowbill. Altough i prefer running coruscation with crit refund instead of bolt just for that lucky 10 pools of fire without venting.
@@TheHerrDoktorr Not really, Fire Sword is only good at Stagger control and is best on Battle Wizard especially if using Famished Flames to boost DoT damage, you are only limiting your damage potential on Pyro/Unchained using Fire Sword. Sword or Flail are best on Pyro, Flail best on Unchained.
@@prich0382Yea thats what i said though? I said every melee is best except fire sword on pyro.
i've been moisturized, in my lane, playing bounty hunter in legend and cata with repeater pistol and rapier. it doesnt stop being enjoyable for me
in my opinion, grail knight passive carries him above a c, its just rly strong, especially when running 3 of them
what a soothing choice of music choices.
7 months ago....
I need my dose of memes!
Hope you're doing well!!
Good DK64 music choice, always a treat to hear it
Considering you dabbled in voice lines extraction, do you have any idea if Hand of the Shadow Crown from TWW2 has any diplomacy/campaign lines? I remember modding Alith Anar's god awful voice and replacing it with Hand's one but I'm pretty sure I've only found battle voice lines.
No diplomacy lines as it's a hero unit.
As for the campaign lines, It's probably somewhere in there. It's just extremely hard to find. good luck
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Honestly i would put warrior priest s and zealot a. Warrior priest is very stromg and unkillable and supports fantasticly. He is awsome in solo and group play easily.
finally, validation
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Informative video. I like how you explain your choices for the different difficulties as well. For that however I’d recommend breaking up the video into chapters, in the future, because 36 minutes is pretty lengthy to sit through for a tier list video imo. Some may end up skipping forward not realizing how you’re doing the tier list explanation.
done, thanks for the tip
9:22 good ol poggers bridge
grailknight in c tier ? below slayer ? just no :)
Grailknight has almost Shade Dps while being tanky as fuck.
Yeah no I was confused aswell GK to me at least is not only fun but really good
Did you watch the video?
just try to play with players who are used to playing on the highest difficulties and they will all say that grailknight is one of the best or the best character, this is obvious to anyone,this dude is dumb 🤣
@@airmandawn2638 Yeah, and that doesn't change that Grail Knight didn't get bumped up to at minimum A tier during the shifting towards the middle of the video. Keeping GK at C for the main list and only bumping him up to A for Cata is just disrespectful to GK in general.
@@Forestxavier20 Eh, sure if you feel that hard about him.
im ready to puke with so much camera movement
Worst Foot Knight take I've ever seen
ironbreaker is S tier , he is the Easy mode in cata
Is this teirlist still true
There are perks for unchained that reduce cooldown like abandon
well done
To me, BH miserable survivability and bad melee performance makes him B tier.
You can cheese him up to A/S with the griffon foot pistol and the right talent and trait, but that could be done for most careers.
Solid B, because he's usualy the first guy to die in a team.
You're also forgetting the fact that he's a complete boss melter
They watched this list and buffed tf out of engi and nerfed the rest lmao
Zealot in normal gameplay is not S tier, sure he's S tier in Weaves, but not normal game mode, WHC far outshines him with his kit. Everytime i play him, I'm always saying I could be doing more if I was WHC. Plus you can't play him if there are bots cus they'll heal you, if there is a Waystalker you better hope they aren't using team heal talent and it's risky playing with a grail knight. So personally I'd place Zealot in low A or high B tier.
why is this video not 5 minutes long
good question, i should make shorter video's.
@@DivididedbyInfinite Hi, what is the name at the beguning ? Great video
Watched the vid. GK in C tier made me laugh so hard I had to skip the rest. Saw then that you put zealot in S tier. Idk if we are playing the same game man. Funny vid though.
handmaiden is broken s+ ironbreaker is useless f
Shade < Shadyman 😂🎉
Handmaiden has 125 base hp?
ye
learned something new. i thought elf had 100 base hp across the board. turns out SoT also has 125
but still pretty sure no matter whos tier list it is, Handmaiden is ALWAYS S+tier. can clutch any situation and shes so much more than a shield spamming cc bot. i cant think of a single weapon in elfs arsenal that when equipped to HM doesnt work. even that god awful elven axe feels good
your wrong on grailknight:)
I disagree
Way to make the game look like total sh-it. lol