I think somebody made an au of Gannon and basically raising link as his kid and trying to be a dad to him instead of the usual "they meet up and fight; good versus evil" kind of thing
sounds like an isekai anime. the main character is the demon king or something, and the person summoned to kill them is just a kid who has no idea what is going on.
"Professionals have standards." The prophet sent an orphan, and now the dark lord has a successor to eventually take his place. Heartwarming Lawful evil.
He knew what he had to do at that point, a free apprentice with a possibly high magic potential young so can be turned it kinda just backfires and would back fire most scenarios.
@@Justabloke. Thats the smart play. This is why the orphans should have a vendetta with the villain for one reason or another vs..... just sending a random orphan with no ill-will toward the villain besides. " A prophet told me to kill you."
“I baked these myself” Ok, that was just the icing on the cake. This “dark lord” seems to actually have a lot of implied complexity, not to mention an implied long backstory with “the prophet”, whomever she is, so to the original creator of this comic, I would buy the hell out of a full length graphic novel focusing on how the dark lord ended up in this position in the first place (and then maybe a semi-slice of life style series focusing on him raising the kid and maybe softening into a hero of sorts just due to being a dad to the kid).
Do both. Have the Dark Lord stuck explaining what's going on to 'the hero', with the context required for it to make sense forcing the Dark Lord to explain it piece by piece. Naturally, they're both very busy and quite reluctant, so you have the framing story of the Hero with all that slice of life stuff. The narrative within the narrative being the Prophet and the Dark Lord.
Let the finale be a timeskip to where the kids like 18 now and then he finds out the dark lord was really trying to take over the land because the prophet was really the true evil She had everyone hypnotized into thinking she was good and when she saw a threat to her empire she immediately sent them to be killed she also hypnotized the dark lord into being evil but it turns out since leaving the village he has been able to counter the speel just enough to save everyone she's hypnotized Anyways the final battle is for the fate of the land both armies against each other to where it just turns to a final battle between her and the kid She's defeated but she tries hypnotizing the kid again The dark lord tries breaking through and we see. The hero overcome the hypnotization like his father did so he decides not to kill her we find out both used the prophet and dark lord used to love each other but something happened idk throw that in somewhere and she's been trying to get rid of him ever since Anyways, the prophet is arrested and peace is restored to the land and the hero finally completes the Prophecy as intended and now knows how to rule the proper way The epilougue is just the dark lord trying to reach out a hand to the prophet from her jail cell. Or smth idk just close it on a wholesome note.
Imagine that the "prophecy" of the kid defeating the villain is just the villain teaching the kid how to fight and the kid beats him during the spar and the villain just tears up like a proud father.
I really think the orphan part really sent him over whatever final edge he was at. "She's not just sending children, she's sending expendable children no one is going to miss! I may be the Dark Lord, but that is ice cold of the bitch."
It's honestly a trope, named explicitly "even evil has standards" and I do enjoy it. They will kill 1000 people, but never, would they harm a child, or the innocent in general in some cases.
“They sent a child?! Are they that desp- no. No. We’re better than this. Release the boy, give him some gold, some food, send him back- wait, I’m writing a note… ‘Train the boy, make him stronger, AND OLDER THAN TEN! Then, we can talk about a fated duel.’ Alright. Off you go, remember, prophets are crazy.”
@@rakmodslyr7459 peygamberler gerçektir, son Peygamber Hazreti Muhammed Salallahu Aleyhi Vesellemdir, kıyamete kadar başka peygamber gelmeyecektir, şu anda ve gelecekte peygamberlik iddiasında olanlara itibar etmeyiniz, kıyamete kadar Kur'an-ı kerim den sorumlu insanoğlu, İslam hak dindir, son Peygamber Hazreti Muhammed Salallahu Aleyhi Vesellemdirin yolundan gidenler kurtuluşa erecektir.
@@asker0173 you do know that I meant prophet as in Oracles from Greece or something similar. I have nothing against Islam as long as it doesn't involve radicals and terrorism.
He's actually offended, not because of pride, but he's genuinely *disgusted* that an orphan must decide the fate of the entire world. He played Ocarina of Time after all.
well at least link decided on his own that he would go on a quest, wasn't alone, and also by the time he was told he was a "chosen one" he was quite a way's in and had the master sword and had a bit of expireance, the deku tree was also destroyed so it's not like he had no reason to be involved but the child in this had none of that.
@@ARandomPolarBear”Well they where in stock so I just took one and told him he was the hero! So what it’s not like you killed him or anything.” •No I mean why in the ever living demon king! Which is me. WOULD YOU SEND A LITERAL KID TO ME!• “Thought it would work.”
@@Kasaku-kirikaya “...” “Turns out it didn’t wor-“ “WHY IN THE ACTUAL FUCK WOULD ANYONE LEGITIMATELY THINK THAT SENDING A *LITERAL CHILD* TO KILL _ME,_ AN ALL-POWERFUL DEMON KING THAT CAN QUITE LITERATELY *OBLITERATE* ENTIRE MOUNTAINS INTO NOTHINGNESS!?!?” “...” “Sheesh... and you call me evil.”
Not gonna lie, I really like the premise of the “villain” being the adoptive dad of the orphan hero, but not in the “I AM TO TURN YOU INTO MY EVIL SUCCESSOR” type way but more in a “oh crap, she genuinely sent a orphan to stop me. Well, might as well take care of him” type way. I really want to see this turned into a whole series
this has been done in quite a few manga. one series for example has basically a clinically depressed heroine and the demon lord essentially becomes her adoptive dad and the demons treat her like a sibling. can't remember the name, been years since I've read it
Villain: You're an orphan? What happened to your parents? Hero: They were killed in a fire and I was helpless to do anything and just watched them die before my eyes Villain: WHY IS SHE ALWAYS SENDING THE TRAUMATIC ONES?!!!!
**contacts double-agent, Hank** Hank. Yes, boss? Kill the prohet. Why? She's sending the traumatized children to fight- **Hangs up** Damnit. **Thirty minutes later** Aight, I'm back. **holds the now severed head of the prohet and shows it to him** ........... (WHY DID I ASK HIM TO KILL HER?) Edit: lol 100 likes
Or rather, now he's probably going to bring the hero to his side by giving him a father figure. And then destroy the valley because they send orphaned children to fight their battles
Quoting a Tumblr post here: "It was cruel of them to make you fight me" "The ancient and powerful villain may have had a calm and gentle face as he spoke, but he was furious, not at the hero, but the gods for continually sending kids and teenagers to fight their battles"
The line "She's sending children now???" Implies that she has sent more people who are either unlucky ordinary citizens, or some poor adventurer looking for a way not to be jobless With this theory I like to think that that's how the villain gets his henchmen. These guys who are no match for the Dark Lord gets taken in as a buddy and eventually they repay the favor by working as his underlings
You have no job, you’re about to lose your house, you’re debating whether to eat or pay rent, and an old witch lady says you can have wealth beyond your wildest dreams, and all you have to do is defeat one man. The Dark Lord. You’re desperate and you know you can’t win but you have to do something. So you approach the castle with a sword in your trembling hands, and he looks upon you and asks… "would you like a job?"
Either the Prophet is legit and getting the dark lord to basically adopt this orphan will save the world- or she isn't and that implies that she is just using her authority to send "heroes" to fight the dark lord. Considering the Dark lord baked cookies for this kid, I am not sure how much of a "Dark Lord" he is. Imagine that the Prophet isn't someone guided by magical foresight, just like this dark lord isn't some inherently evil monster, and they have this dumbledore vs voldemort dynamic but toned down because they aren't that wise/prophetic or evil/destructive respectively.
@@S0n3tasame, got a 9k word partial outline and all the dialogue is simple, bland, and robotic or so melodramatic that even the hamiest actor would think it's too much.
I love how yeah, in children’s media the villain is like “I WILL DESTROY THE YOUNG HERO WHO CAME TO DEFEAT ME” and we don’t bat an eye because the hero being a child is expected, but in media targeted at older audiences it’s like “You’re going to kill A CHILD???? Who does that???? You sick piece of garbage!”
There is a manga like that "depressed hero and the demon chieftain" or something like that. Basically: heroine is send to kill the demon chief (she is 13) and as he does his evil speech, she throws her sword down and begs him to end her. He is so flabbergasted that he doesnt know what to do. he finally decides to take her in and being pretty much her new father figure. Its a fun read
"But sir, if the prophesy is true then the child will eventually slay you." "So? I am not so insecure as to kill children because some fairytale told me to. That would be admitting I can't win against some predetermined fate."
@@icicle_aiAfter a long happy life of course. Being raised by the Dark Lord let the Hero intimately know his wants. Like for the Hero to be happy. And to not wastes away his final days dying on a bed.
@@giogio4222yeah, Greece made that trope as to say that you can't avoid fate. (Also they often went to prophets for decision making, such as when to start a war or something, so of course this came naturally)
Villain: "Okay who is it this time?" Henchman: "Well this old man said he wanted to fight you." *Villain sees old man with a sword and walking cane* Villain: "Well at least it's not a child. So are you like a wizard or monk or something?" Old Man: "I was a warrior back in my day but I'm a little rusty, I also want to die fighting." Villain: "So your not a powerful mastic man and your not the chosen one?" Old Man: "They think a child is the chosen one and they want to send him to fight you. I think they just like killing children. Unlike me who's lived a full life and is ready to die." Villain: "Seriously, what's wrong with the oracle!?" Old Man: "I don't know. Fight me to the death."
The Old Man: “If you won’t fight willingly then I will force you! Raaahhhh!” *crack* “OOOOHHH MY BACK!” *collapses* Villain: “Take this man to a nursing home…”
@@bullmoosevelt4495 meanwhile at the the prophets house, “ if I keep sending all of our villagers In need of help the dark lord will be to occupied helping people to cast his cosmic spell only available today”
I'm half imagining the villain doesn't take the old man seriously, until the geezer takes off his shirt and is revealed to be absolutely fucking ripped.
Little did he know, caring for this child would set him on a path of good. Thus the champion "defeated" the dark lord, just as the prophetess predicted.
This reminds me of a D&D villain from a campaign I ran. The party showed up tired, dirty and angry, and he was horrified that his enemies didn't have time to prepare better for fighting him. Cut to him holding a banquet for them while asking how their adventure to kill him was going and they were all thoroughly confused
This reminds me of that one moau anime where the demon king turn out to be a demon queen with big mommy milkers. She had been waiting for years for him to stop her. They became a couple and they told the world they are both very injured fighting one another.
The Dark Lord of my D&D campaign is like this. He has a strict 'No killing kids' policy. He thinks the 'Child Hero' trope is absolutely messed up and proves the champions of righteousness are just as bad as he is, if not worse. "I accept I'm a monster. But what does that make you people?"
@@WildArmACF Funny story. My party almost teamed up with him until one of them died and they blamed him for it. They were going to help him with his plan once he explained what he was doing and why. Then the Wild Mage called a Void Elemental "A weak little b%$&#" and got unalived... Party went "Dark Lord, YOU use the Void. This is on you." And he shrugged and went "That is an unsurprising conclusion."
9001 IQ play by the prophet, who successfully sent the hero to defeat the Villain by appealing to the last shred of their humanity having them focus on becoming a good parent instead.
I do love the "they're sending children?! Wtf?!" kinda villains. Other than them having standards being hilarious, it does add whole other level on who's REALLY the villain. Seriously just imagine it "They've done this before. Other children have DIED because of them. I was one of those children... Why do you think I fight them, and try to burn away everything they stand for?"
Because of who is kid an orphan? Because of Oracle? No, because of Dark Lord? Hm, okay, Dark Lord still IS the villain after all. Or is orphaning a child and making him starve and sell himself for money are just hilarious evil hijinks, but refusing to kill makes him a hero?
@@feameldo In your classical story, yeah, it is not rare for the vilain to be responsible for the hero to be an orphan... but, given the narrative and all here... I dunno. May have been a kid who ould have still been an orphan with no demon lord around. (like, mother dies in childbirth, father dies from sickness or something and there are no other relatives or shit)
My sides hurt from laughing so hard. I can see this happening. Even the villain has lines they won't cross. I love the disbelief in the guy's voice. I would be the same way if I was in the villain's place.
The villain has the psychology of actual criminals in prison when serial killers and gangsters join up in prison to murder pedophiles in prison for hurting children
Its like those histories when the main character almost kills the villain But the master is 100x stronger than both of them together , he knows the villain is going to destroy the world and he could kill him there but he wants to watch until the villain comes to kill him to become a motivational flashback for the MC
I would watch the utter fucking shit outta of a show based on the "destined" hero being adopted and raised by the main antagonist because he's a literal fucking child, lmaooo
I love the idea that they both just go back and forth with each other. Like, Prophet: "Yes! Your the chosen one, defeat the villain for us hero." *Child arrives at Villians base* Villain: .... Villain: "go back home, kid."
Remember me of a parody, then the hero and villain need each other, so the villain always place the capture hero in a easy to escape from death machine, and the hero always fail to catch the villain then he flee.
“The young hero will sit on the throne once dirtied by the evil lord, claiming it as his own” *Hero gets adopted by the villain and becomes his successor, inheriting the throne*
Add onto that: there's this spot of grime that the Villain could never get the time to scrub out due to being too busy. The Hero, who HAS the time, takes a rag to the grime, cleaning it off.
"Wait a minute, I thought this was supposed to be a happy ending? Wasn't he supposed to bring peace to the land?" "I mean, all the prophecy said was that he'd slay the Dark Lord. And he did kill him. Didn't say what he'd do afterward."
I’ve always wanted a series about teenage heroes fighting against a villain who’s flabbergasted by the idea of having to fight literally children. Just saying “where are your parents?”
Okay, I know this meme is done _to death_ at this point but I think "Where the fuck are your parents? Who are your parents? I'm gonna call child protective services, its time to stop!" is appropriate for this scenario.
You know how in some stories the Hero doesn't want to abandon their lives, but the Villian inadvertently motivates them by trying to kill them to prevent a prophecy. I love the idea of a Villain derailing the prophecy by befriending them, or just not antagonizing them.
Ah yes, the God of War: Ragnarok approach. The prophecy is what will occur if no one changes, not the only outcome. A BBEG going from conquest to "Your king sucks at this, I can do better" becomes a very different fate.
Not a video game example, but there's a lovely inverted example of this in one of the post-show movies from Babylon 5. The short version is that there's an heir to a space monarchy that's prophesied to eventually go on an expansionistic interplanetary murder spree, with the space wizard guy who makes the prophecy insisting that the only way to avert that fate is for the hero to murder him as a teenager. The actual solution is that the hero just outright adopts him because he sees that this goofy kid who gets super excited about finally getting to fly a fighter and expresses confusion that anyone might do anything for any reason other than gaining political power MIGHT not be destined to be an evil murderous despot if he hangs around with decent normal people sometimes.
I love how the villain is more responsible and has better standards than the prophet. Also I’m fairly certain the villain adopted the kid in the last panel.
I think a better ending and one that makes more sense is if the villain cared for the kid personally until he found someone willing to adopt, after which he would go confront the prophet
@littlemoth4956 Disagree The best ending in my opinion would be if the villain enjoyed the Prospect of parenthood so much that he quit his villainous ways in order to focus on raising the child and to be better role model for them.
We're here talking about responsibility and standards when evil is a spectrum. Plenty of dark lords don't care about age and will still kill children, even taking great pride in doing so. Others even outright hate children and they think pediacide as a good thing.
Oh that ending is so wholesome. I just...you thats probably how. Thats probably how the prophet figured the child would become the hero. He would just placate the villain by giving him an orphan child to raise instead of being evil. The way he talks implies he not only knows the prophet personally, somehow, but that they likely do this whole prophecy thing casually, like, the villain probably isn't even all that bad. Just misunderstood.
@@Ijustusethistocommentstuff That's the twist. She knew the kid would not succeed, and knew the villain would not hurt the kid. She was using reverse psychology to make the villain become good, and give the orphan a home in the process.
Ik people are envisioning a version where this is how the villain turns good But tbh, it’s bleak but I really love the version of this trope where the villain who’s a good dad and genuinely cares about his kids and the villain who 100% IS the bastard and monster guilty of all the crimes we thought he’d be are equally one in the same. I guess it cause, as a society we collectively subscribed to the notion that certain parts of us are somehow not us, due to our choice to sometimes deny or reject these parts of ourselves The good parts, the not so good parts, the masks we put on to save face, the intrusive and impulsive thoughts, are disabilities are all in some way derivative of us being the common thread between them all. Those parts of us are All just us, they each play a part in making us who we are in a way that can’t be said if they were just separated. It’s rare, but I always find it super interesting for heroes and villains alike to recognize that the evil side of the person they were fighting and the side that genuinely loves people and has wants and ambitions are equally real It adds a whole new layer of drama and subtext to the baddies they’re fighting vs if it were all just some facade that they can turn off like a switch Imagine someone falling for someone who’s 100% evils completely naturally, only to discover that the aspects that you love them for are some of the same aspects that they’re using to hurt others with That person who you love isn’t just “in there somewhere”, they’re standing right in front of you, and the horror and sorrow that can come when you see it as clear as day. Same vibes when these aspects play a roll into what motivates them to be evil or good.
I guess part of this comes from the fact that aspects of writing villains are a double edge sword I get how making them 100% unabashedly detestable and writhe in it can make us hate them, but it can also lead to us failing to see them as anything tangible a lot of the time. And when I say what I listed in my previous comment, I’m not even talkin’ about giving villains sympathetic or tragic backstories or anything that extreme either I just mean the weird irony of just allowing them to be 100% monsters, but just have other facets of who they are outside of that can make them feel more real. all while being grossly, cartoonishly vile surpringsly I feel like it just stems from the fact that no one is ever 100% one side of themselve under literally every circumstance So giving them morals, ethics, dislikes, hobbies etc that have 0 to do with what they do while evil not only fleshes them out, but it makes them memorable and gives the times when they actually flex how bad they are and some much needed clarity and contrast. It’s terrifying, relatable and surprising cause we know who they are when they’re not that, so it’s scary to see what they become when they are. Sometimes there’s fun in just having these aspects be out in the open rather than just be a facade or Locked away somewhere.
@_jpg Nah, just a switch in motivation can make a huge difference. Someone out for power conducts their campaign VERY differently than someone trying to liberate. And if a BBEG makes that switch, you're going to have a MUCH worse time since now they're justly motivated.
That 'dark overlord' character is basically the Cyberleader from 80's Doctor Who. The voice modulation, the deepness, the mannerisms of the evil speech, even the "EEEXcellent" is the same! Now I'm imagining the young boy Hero as Adric... "The Doctor's sending _children_ now?! Jesus fucking Cyberchrist..."
I don't think the Doctor would really do that, tho. Idk if cybermens and the Master are enemies but that feels like a Master thing. Idk tho never watched the show, just going off of clips. Sorry fpr my lack of knowledge
@HeyYouFromThatGame No problem. Adric was a companion of the 4th and 5th Doctors from the early 80's, only a teenager when the Doctor picked him up. In Adric's final story, 'Earthshock', he, the Doctor, Tegan and Nyssa encounter the Cybermen. Without spoiling it too much, it doesn't end well for poor Adric, though the scene is well known in the fandom anyway, even to those who haven't watched the story.
"melted his heart?" No, the villain has heard the wise man's words and, in cold rationale, is using them against the chosen one. He utilized the same tactic when the oracle had sent brand new "adventurers" against his superior might. They are now the henchman that brought the chosen one before him.
I would love a full story that starts off like this. A child soldier indoctrinated into believing themselves to be 'the champion' of a cause gets taken in by the supposed villain and comes to learn that the life they have always known has been a lie. That or they just because an evil mastermind. Either way.
Or both. BBEG is still evil (AKA conducting scorched earth policy, executing POWs en masse, engaging in slavery, maybe even has a harem) but at least he doesnt absolve himself trying to justify his actions like rest of the world. He just names the things as they are.
I got you, bro. Just gimme a month. (I need a week for the script, A week to draw, A week to edit and, at least a week to find someone to voice act it.)
Book I read has a rando get summoned to a fantasy world to retrieve the holy blade so that the demon lord can be slain. Cue one panicked rando and a very hurried explanation that the holy blade is 20 feet away on the other side of a barrier that nobody from the setting can cross, and once the sword is back across the barrier it will be given to a fully-trained knight to wield and the rando will be sent home.
@Foi só pra curtir And let's not forget the fact that dick grayson's backstory has been changed a bit that he was already being targeted by the Court of owls As a talon. So Bruce pretty much adopting him was a very good decision In the long run Is looking at what it entails to become of a Talon
Have to be honest, when I saw the title I was expecting it to be that the hero was more destructive than the villain, and as the closest thing to authority he was charging the hero for his crimes. "You are hereby charged for mass murder." "Aw come on. It wasn't that bad." "You slaughtered an entire Drow city!" "Yeah. They were evil." "Don't give me that. You can't just go up to an entire civilization and decide their morality for them." "Sure I can. I'm the hero." "Christ. Can I get a new hero? Somebody who isn't eviler than me? You know, the Dark Lord?"
Based on the Thumbnail I thought the Villain wouldn’t accept not being the Hero, thinking what he was doing was right, so it would be like “Why are you doing this?” “_I’m_ the Hero!” “No, I am.”
I like the implication that the villain knows the "oracle" is getting rid of their undesirables by sending them on a "quest" against the BBEG. Also he knows it wasn't him who made the kid an orphan. He remembers his Tuesdays.
Honestly what you just said gave me a nasty while funny Reminder of The Bard's Tale. Referring to the hack and slash during the PS2 era version. A recurring joke in the story that is relevant to your character is You keep coming across a bunch of idiot Village boys declaring themselves the chosen one. Right before they get killed off in the most ridiculous and Too dumb to the live fashion. At a point you run into these dudes you pretty much proclaim you the chosen one. Figuring out why you keep running into these idiots getting killed even come across One town that decided to pretty much arrest all the idiot chosen 1 And put him into a jail cell for their own safety. And the big kicker is turns out the druids who have been attacking you And acting all evil like turns out there actually the good guys. And the so called beautiful maiden that all these chosen ones including you are supposed to rescue turns out she's actually a demon that will destroy the world. And the so called bad guys were too idiotic to stop for a second and tell You're protagonist The Bard What's up instead just going straight to trying to kill you Before they finally f****** tell you right in the finale. I mean want to take the idiot villager boys into account you kind of see why they want straight to try and kill you since they seem too idiotic to even listen to them. But still silly and I had a good laugh especially once the beautiful maiden showed her true form. And the fact that you actually can decide the final boss Is either the leader of the group who's been trying to keep her sealed who's been trying to get rid of you and acting too much like a Villain with his voice. Or help him to deal with her Once and for all. The game was well one of those games where it was self aware your characters constantly fighting with the narrator Who hate you so much that he will literally happily say he loves a good happy ending if you ever get a game over. And your character actually stops to wonder how the h*** a wolf has a freaking battle 🪓 inside of its stomach You know the classic question of every time you kill an enemy in hack and slash games. They dropped stuff that seems impossible for them to paddle their person like it's one thing if it's an enemy Warrior something like that dropping the weapon they were trying to kill you with. But wolves having gold pieces and such on them. That type of game that completely self aware of itself. I think there was a point where you actually go across dangerous terrain over a bridge of all the dead chosen ones.
@@paulman34340with the gold for the wolves they could have eaten em as for the weapons either the wolf has to be fucking huge or some witchcraft is going on
@@yangchenlhamo7537 I just said it's "The Bard's Tale" at the start of the reply? And by that I mean the one that came out in the PS2/XBOX/Gamecube Era!
I love this so freaking much! I love how the villian is just so evil sounding and looking and then sees the hero is a kid and is like, "No, nuh uh. Imma be a father figure."
i can kinda see the kid growing up and becoming a Dark Hero hunting down prophets mages and royal families that are sending 10 yr. old kids to their death.
@@jexxisahuman9073 to be honest i kinda really wanted to write a story using that concept. here's a big bit of the story i reall wanted to work on. the Demon lord adopted a 4 year old kid after the child's town was decimated, and the Demonlord raised him as his own flesh and blood and thought him all that he knew from using magic to being a skilled knight. all was well until a group of "Heroes" summoned by a Royal family under the guide of a "Benevolent" goddess the heroes with the help of the royal family and the goddess's blessing they successfully invaded the demonlord's castle and slayed the Demonlord. but not before the Demonlord manages to make sure his adopted kid is safe from the prying eyes of the royal family and heroes who slayed his only father figure. with the help of his trusted servants. 12 years had passed and the young boy has now grown into fine youngman travelling the world he had seen how the people celebrated his adopted father's death, and how the heroes saved the world, with the aide of the goddess and the royal family who summoned them. but in truth those "heroes" where never deserving of the title at all infact they were worst, than how they portrayed the demonlord, as they were nothing more than just a bunch of egotistical, narcissist's who are willing to commit genocide under the false pretense of justice. and the royal family never really wanted to save the world in the first place. no they wanted to claim the Demonlord's land as his domain was reap with nearly unending resources to fuel their greed and finally the so Called Goddess who summoned those "heroes" whom the youngman calls the" False Deity" as there was nothing divine about the goddess when he first saw her. she was a manipulative,cruel, self absorbed goddess who is willing to demonize anyone who doesn't bow to her whim. which is what the demonlord did.
Plot twist : The villain adopts the boy and raises him. Through that, he is changed and becomes a better person, so the boy effectively "defeated" the villain.
Villains are the heroes of their own story. Seeing a villain who isn't an evil psychopath, nor a sympathetic psychopath is quite an interesting idea. Imagine a villain who isn't really a bad person at all and holds decent morals (such as the dude in this comic) but simply is the villain because they either have goals that aren't really the best for everyone or are at odds with the hero. Could be a very interesting gray vs gray situation rather than the standard black vs white. Might even make you question the legitimacy of the hero as well. Very, very intriguing concept that isn't explored as much.
Kinda am.reminded of Borderland 2. Handsome jack started out in pre seque.as a decent guy and even as crazed villain in 2 thought he was doing the right thing.
It *_can potentially_* undermine the satisfaction of the resolution of the plot, though. If you make the antagonist have a compelling justification, or if the protagonist is too unjust or selfish, the viewer/reader/player can end up siding with the antagonist, which can make many typical plot resolutions really unsatisfying. I personally feel like the concept of morally grey main villains is really _overplayed_ as a trope at this point. I honestly find it refreshing these days when there's an uncomplicated, typical, irredeemably evil villain in a given work of fiction. No grief; no trauma; no ambitions for a better world-- just a ruthless, power-hungry, selfish monster with zero baggage and minimal moral complexity. Now *_that's_* a villain that you want to see fall! Justice being served when it's unambiguously due? That's damn satisfying to see.
This is actually an incredibly smart play by the prophet. She sent an orphan child to defeat the dark lord and bring safety to the valley, which he actually accomplished. The dark lord learned compassion through raising a child of his own and left his evil ways behind to experience the joys of fatherhood. Brilliant.
I won't lie, This comic looks good, imagine if the prophet is actually a knight templar whose a little loony that's deadset on battling the forces of "evil" no matter how many youth die.
I truly want them to do this (properly) in at least just one game, because this concept has a decent amount of potential to go several places. Especially with player input if its a choice based game.
The Evil Lord kept murdering towns, burning fields, and his generally evil acts, but now he had a sidekick that would probably eventually betray him. BUT he would be betrayed by an adult, so the battle would feel a lot more fair in his eyes.
And so the once orphaned champion was taken in by the villain who took a liking to the boy and began to question his evil schemes. It turned out the prophet was right. The champion did bring an end to the villain’s evil ways.
This is how the Dark Lord raised the hero like his own son, teaching hil everything he knows. Ultimately, when the dark lord retired, the Hero replaced him as ruler of the Dark Army, fulfilling the prophecy of him "ending the reign of the Dark Lord"
There's a Manga with basically the same plot, only instead of a 10 year old it's like a 12 year old girl, same general concept though although a lot more bleak at first, girl was told she was destined to become a holy warrior, and when demons started attacking the village the villagers killed her parents as punishment like it was her fault and left her an orphan. Finally completely alone and despondent (like Naruto on the swing stuff) she storms the castle and begs the Big Bad just to get it over with, either she beats him and fulfills her destiny, or she dies and she can finally rest and see her parents in the afterlife. Big Bad acts pretty much just like the comic and instead adopts her as his magical apprentice. Truth be told it's a very cute concept although the chapters are a big of a slog, after the first chapter (basically what I said above) it's just mostly cute stuff of the girl having a good meal, taking a bath for the first time, and the undead and demon servants taking a liking to her.
This deserves to be an anime. The concept feels so obvious yet I don't think this has been done in any popular animated series so it sounds like untapped potential.
I have never related so closely to a villain before in my LIFE! Like, why send a KID to do something?? They're fighting against an ADULT!! If it was a fellow kid sure okay but an ADULT?!?! Bruh
Because the Dark Lord specifically WON'T kill him. An adult hero would be dead right there. This kid basically has plot armor until he grows old enough to be considered an adult. All you have to do is choose a kid who has potential and will never forgive the bad guy for some reason.
"Eh, I'm too lazy to fight him. Now, if I can just find an orphanage, I can send one of those kids to hopefully find some powerful sword and do it for me" is all I can imagine the prophet thinking before they sent him
I imagine the Dark Lord going back to his village personally to find the Prophet and tell her "This is fucked up and you know it! Not even I'm using kids."
@@XX-sp3tt "I am so sorry about this, I try to maintain a proper genocide standard, and in this I have failed. To make up for this failure, I fully intend to ensure you don't make the same mistakes." "What?" "Either I kill you now, or I train you to do better and if sometime in that process you kill me, that's my problem now isn't it?"
The villain being the hero's dad figure is actually a brilliant, evil move. Makes it all the harder for the hero to fight back, especially since he would be the only paternal figure the hero ever had.
I wanna see a continuation of this story so bad; just a villain raising a hero boi like a good dad I imagine he's like "Right, son, it's time I go to work! I'll burn a barn or two to ashes and I'll be back soon! Be good while I'm gone, son!"
This actually sounds like the set up for an interesting story where the dark lord adopts the child, promising to keep them safe until they're old enough to fight. Turns out he's not really that evil and the Oracle who sent the child was hoping to use them to defeat the lord and then control them as regent. They defeat the evil Oracle and becomes the heir to the lord. But that prophecy still lingers, they will kill the dark lord one way or another.
Honestly I am more of a fan that the Oracle wasn't wrong and that the demon lord is truly an evil man though with standards. However the pressure of the Oracle and the citizens pushed the child (either directly or indirectly) to rush their quest. So the child can't really blame the Oracle, though is raised now by the demon lord that it was the Oracles fault. At like 18, child is sent out with demon forces, does some stuff for the bad guys then realizes he actually will need to kill his adopted father, not out of hatred but the realization that the only peace is the death of his adopted father and for the son to take over to lessen the conflict between the humans and races, thus fulfilling the Oracles prophecy
I love when story's build up to an epic fight and then the villains just like A CHILD?! And then they adopt said child from the people who sent him on the missions and what not❤
Plot twist, eventually the boy grows up and the evil man is like "okay, Ima be honest here, I was really evil until I met you, but you gave me what I needed: as on to rear. So strike me down, defeat me, and go be better than I was in my life."
Bigger plot twist: it was his fate to defeat him. No one said anything about killing, not even that it had to be by force. "Kill them with kindness" as they said. The second he started baking those cookies it was already over he just didn't know it yet. The prophet is a genius!
@@KuperSpyronicStudios Well not really. The henchmen weren't a real threat because they had orders to take him alive. So if she knew the villain wouldn't possibly stoop low enough to murder a defenseless kid in cold blood, then she knew the kid would survive. If that was the case this was some expert manipulation by her.
Now this is a promising Fantasy story. Titlebgoes something like: "I'm adopting a orphaned Child Hero the Prophet sent to defeat me" and it's just a adorable father-son story
Okay, the wonderful comic aside, I *seriously* appreciate the voice acting in this. Goes hard, and I appreciate a good reverb to a deep, often helmeted, voice.
I love the idea that the prophet didn't send him out, but rather he snuck out before he was ready. So, it just ends up being a super misunderstanding between the two when they inevitably talk about this
Demon Lord: “Is this how you recruit your child soldiers now?” Prophet: “I don’t make the prophesies, I just foretell them. Besides, he left without my knowledge.” Demon Lord: “Oh, you didn’t see that one coming?!” Prophet: “Well if you’re so much better, why don’t you try raising a child?” Demon Lord: “Fine! … wait.” Prophet: **smug smile**
I swear, if this was a series/anime i would totally watch it. I like the idea of an Evil Lord who finds out that the Hero destined to defeat him is just a child. So he decides to raise the kid with the prospect of killing him once he's an adult... only for both of them to grow a son/father bond.
There is series where dark lord become step father of child hero. He spare hero live, return her to mother home, love in hero mother and confess to her. All story is about dark lord atempt to finalize marriage and be accept as father.
Another comment says a manga like that exists. A response says it's name is "The negative hero and the chief of the demon army". Haven't looked it up tho
"It is your fate to defeat me." Figuratively, apparently it was fate that the dark lord adopted the hero and ended up domesticating himself so he could be a responsible parent.
As someone who is a fledgling science fictionw writer; an avid D&D player and campaign writer, and hopefully one day a published author, this is something I can totally enjoy and relate too. Good villains have Morales and standards; the fact he went out of his way to say "hold up a kid?!" And consider his actions makes him a good villain in my opinion.
"The villain is too busy being a dad to conquor the world" is the type of thing I'd enjoy watching
Dark-Lord-enshmirtz.
Killer Moth from Teen Titans fits pretty nicely too.
There is a manga called "Negative Hero And The Demon Lord Army Leader" if you want to see something like that
I think somebody made an au of Gannon and basically raising link as his kid and trying to be a dad to him instead of the usual "they meet up and fight; good versus evil" kind of thing
sounds like an isekai anime. the main character is the demon king or something, and the person summoned to kill them is just a kid who has no idea what is going on.
"Professionals have standards."
The prophet sent an orphan, and now the dark lord has a successor to eventually take his place. Heartwarming Lawful evil.
He knew what he had to do at that point, a free apprentice with a possibly high magic potential young so can be turned it kinda just backfires and would back fire most scenarios.
@@Justabloke. Thats the smart play. This is why the orphans should have a vendetta with the villain for one reason or another vs..... just sending a random orphan with no ill-will toward the villain besides. " A prophet told me to kill you."
Just gonna leave a comment to see if people will drag the above commenter or not
@A.C.E.A.G Cue corruption within the law.
@A.C.E.A.G oof
“I baked these myself”
Ok, that was just the icing on the cake. This “dark lord” seems to actually have a lot of implied complexity, not to mention an implied long backstory with “the prophet”, whomever she is, so to the original creator of this comic, I would buy the hell out of a full length graphic novel focusing on how the dark lord ended up in this position in the first place (and then maybe a semi-slice of life style series focusing on him raising the kid and maybe softening into a hero of sorts just due to being a dad to the kid).
He seems to have experience. I wonder if the prophet killed his child or if he raises his army himself
THIS. I would buy an entire book series based on this premise.
Do both. Have the Dark Lord stuck explaining what's going on to 'the hero', with the context required for it to make sense forcing the Dark Lord to explain it piece by piece. Naturally, they're both very busy and quite reluctant, so you have the framing story of the Hero with all that slice of life stuff. The narrative within the narrative being the Prophet and the Dark Lord.
I couldn't agree more
Let the finale be a timeskip to where the kids like 18 now and then he finds out the dark lord was really trying to take over the land because the prophet was really the true evil
She had everyone hypnotized into thinking she was good and when she saw a threat to her empire she immediately sent them to be killed she also hypnotized the dark lord into being evil but it turns out since leaving the village he has been able to counter the speel just enough to save everyone she's hypnotized
Anyways the final battle is for the fate of the land both armies against each other to where it just turns to a final battle between her and the kid
She's defeated but she tries hypnotizing the kid again
The dark lord tries breaking through and we see. The hero overcome the hypnotization like his father did so he decides not to kill her we find out both used the prophet and dark lord used to love each other but something happened idk throw that in somewhere and she's been trying to get rid of him ever since
Anyways, the prophet is arrested and peace is restored to the land and the hero finally completes the Prophecy as intended and now knows how to rule the proper way
The epilougue is just the dark lord trying to reach out a hand to the prophet from her jail cell. Or smth idk just close it on a wholesome note.
Imagine that the "prophecy" of the kid defeating the villain is just the villain teaching the kid how to fight and the kid beats him during the spar and the villain just tears up like a proud father.
Oh my god that's adorable
Then the kid inherits the throne and power and proceeds to suplex the Oracle
This I need this
Y E S
Honestly? I'd like that
I really think the orphan part really sent him over whatever final edge he was at.
"She's not just sending children, she's sending expendable children no one is going to miss! I may be the Dark Lord, but that is ice cold of the bitch."
That or she chose a different tactic.
Did you watch DBZA by any chance
@@ketto2034 are you gonna reference doctor gero or doctor briefs
@@LordTyphkinda
When Prophet accidentally causes the Villain to have an alignment shift, thus causing the Wheels of Fate to spiral out of control.
“I’m a villain, not a monster.”
-that guy who said the thing
As a wise person on tumblr once said “Now he’s to busy being a dad to be evil”
This guy is terrific like Bowser!
Isn't that the plot to Despicable Me?
Yup lol
There are wise people on tumblr ⁉️
@@sonicloisthehedgehog yes
-Pukicho
-Science side of tumblr
I'm really digging this whole Thing of villains just saying stuff like "They send a Child???" Over stuff like "Nice, we can kill him easily"
It's honestly a trope, named explicitly "even evil has standards" and I do enjoy it. They will kill 1000 people, but never, would they harm a child, or the innocent in general in some cases.
@@timothyswanson8773 Oh, yeah, Thx I forgot the name
I really love this kind of trope
That's Lawful Evil for ya.
I would have killed him- Oh yeah that’s pretty nice
Professionals have standards
“They sent a child?! Are they that desp- no. No. We’re better than this. Release the boy, give him some gold, some food, send him back- wait, I’m writing a note… ‘Train the boy, make him stronger, AND OLDER THAN TEN! Then, we can talk about a fated duel.’ Alright. Off you go, remember, prophets are crazy.”
“You’re not ready. Return when you understand what it truly means to be a ‘Hero’. Only then will you truly be ready.”
Do not believe prophets for they doom the ones who ask for their "wisdom"
Older than 10? Watch them send him back at 11 or 12 😂
@@rakmodslyr7459 peygamberler gerçektir, son Peygamber Hazreti Muhammed Salallahu Aleyhi Vesellemdir, kıyamete kadar başka peygamber gelmeyecektir, şu anda ve gelecekte peygamberlik iddiasında olanlara itibar etmeyiniz, kıyamete kadar Kur'an-ı kerim den sorumlu insanoğlu, İslam hak dindir, son Peygamber Hazreti Muhammed Salallahu Aleyhi Vesellemdirin yolundan gidenler kurtuluşa erecektir.
@@asker0173 you do know that I meant prophet as in Oracles from Greece or something similar. I have nothing against Islam as long as it doesn't involve radicals and terrorism.
He's actually offended, not because of pride, but he's genuinely *disgusted* that an orphan must decide the fate of the entire world.
He played Ocarina of Time after all.
well at least link decided on his own that he would go on a quest, wasn't alone, and also by the time he was told he was a "chosen one" he was quite a way's in and had the master sword and had a bit of expireance, the deku tree was also destroyed so it's not like he had no reason to be involved
but the child in this had none of that.
What are you talking about weirdo?
@@Beowolf-jy5rc none that you know of.
He's offended because he knows without guidance this child will evolve into a Democrat voter.
Poor link
I wanna see the epilogue to this
"You sent an ORPHAN CHILD to kill me!"
"Well when you say it like that it sounds bad!"
"IT IS BAD!!"
😅😂
"Okay, wise guy! Who would YOU send!?"
"NOT AN ORPHAN CHILD!"
@@ARandomPolarBear”Well they where in stock so I just took one and told him he was the hero! So what it’s not like you killed him or anything.”
•No I mean why in the ever living demon king! Which is me. WOULD YOU SEND A LITERAL KID TO ME!•
“Thought it would work.”
Okay humorous
@@Kasaku-kirikaya
“...”
“Turns out it didn’t wor-“
“WHY IN THE ACTUAL FUCK WOULD ANYONE LEGITIMATELY THINK THAT SENDING A *LITERAL CHILD* TO KILL _ME,_ AN ALL-POWERFUL DEMON KING THAT CAN QUITE LITERATELY *OBLITERATE* ENTIRE MOUNTAINS INTO NOTHINGNESS!?!?”
“...”
“Sheesh... and you call me evil.”
Not gonna lie, I really like the premise of the “villain” being the adoptive dad of the orphan hero, but not in the “I AM TO TURN YOU INTO MY EVIL SUCCESSOR” type way but more in a “oh crap, she genuinely sent a orphan to stop me. Well, might as well take care of him” type way. I really want to see this turned into a whole series
That’s how the hero actually stops the villain, by turning him into a father
There was a Tumblr post on this
this has been done in quite a few manga.
one series for example has basically a clinically depressed heroine and the demon lord essentially becomes her adoptive dad and the demons treat her like a sibling.
can't remember the name, been years since I've read it
Villain: You're an orphan? What happened to your parents?
Hero: They were killed in a fire and I was helpless to do anything and just watched them die before my eyes
Villain: WHY IS SHE ALWAYS SENDING THE TRAUMATIC ONES?!!!!
**contacts double-agent, Hank**
Hank.
Yes, boss?
Kill the prohet.
Why?
She's sending the traumatized children to fight-
**Hangs up**
Damnit.
**Thirty minutes later**
Aight, I'm back. **holds the now severed head of the prohet and shows it to him**
...........
(WHY DID I ASK HIM TO KILL HER?)
Edit: lol 100 likes
Speaks volumes when the villain has actual moral scruples unlike the people sending literally anyone after them!
Okay what do you remember I'm going to hunt them down, given the odds they're linked to your "prophet"!
[as it turned out, the parents died because of arson caused by agents under the high priest]
@@bum116 my guy that madness combat reference was cool good job 👍
And this was how The Evil Lord was defeated...
Not through Death, But through change of heart.
I’m prety sure he even kore helbend on killing everyone. Except now he has a legitimate reason to.😂
**LIFE WILL CHANGE INTESIFIES**
Or rather, now he's probably going to bring the hero to his side by giving him a father figure.
And then destroy the valley because they send orphaned children to fight their battles
@@luxinvictus9018 it's what i would do
And so the prophecy was fulfilled
Quoting a Tumblr post here:
"It was cruel of them to make you fight me"
"The ancient and powerful villain may have had a calm and gentle face as he spoke, but he was furious, not at the hero, but the gods for continually sending kids and teenagers to fight their battles"
Im late but the reason i searched this up was from said post i saw on a youtube short earlier
HE SOUNDS SO PISSED I LOVE IT
The "they sending children now?!" Got me, it's like just doing a spin-the-wheel and managed to get an orphan to do their bidding
My fav line was: "Oh, i'm going to wring her fucking neck for this."
He's just PISSED. No other emotion, just pure anger at the prophet's bullshit.
this video feels so much like a dialogue you'd find occasionally on tumblr
@@SomeGuyWithABlueMask lol love it
@@bojuu i think this was on tumblr but who knows
The line "She's sending children now???" Implies that she has sent more people who are either unlucky ordinary citizens, or some poor adventurer looking for a way not to be jobless
With this theory I like to think that that's how the villain gets his henchmen. These guys who are no match for the Dark Lord gets taken in as a buddy and eventually they repay the favor by working as his underlings
I want to write a fanfic but my writing and planning skills are horrible **cries in ADHD**
Sounds like something to work on@@S0n3ta
You have no job, you’re about to lose your house, you’re debating whether to eat or pay rent, and an old witch lady says you can have wealth beyond your wildest dreams, and all you have to do is defeat one man. The Dark Lord. You’re desperate and you know you can’t win but you have to do something. So you approach the castle with a sword in your trembling hands, and he looks upon you and asks… "would you like a job?"
Either the Prophet is legit and getting the dark lord to basically adopt this orphan will save the world- or she isn't and that implies that she is just using her authority to send "heroes" to fight the dark lord. Considering the Dark lord baked cookies for this kid, I am not sure how much of a "Dark Lord" he is. Imagine that the Prophet isn't someone guided by magical foresight, just like this dark lord isn't some inherently evil monster, and they have this dumbledore vs voldemort dynamic but toned down because they aren't that wise/prophetic or evil/destructive respectively.
@@S0n3tasame, got a 9k word partial outline and all the dialogue is simple, bland, and robotic or so melodramatic that even the hamiest actor would think it's too much.
At the 0:51 I expected him to say "Your army killed them."
Probably not wrong to assume they did
@@syncringe1885the guy doesn’t seem that bad, I don’t think they would of killed them if they weren’t soldiers or something.
@@Incog-0000 This guy doesn't sure. But what about those who are using him as an excuse to do as they please?
I love how yeah, in children’s media the villain is like “I WILL DESTROY THE YOUNG HERO WHO CAME TO DEFEAT ME” and we don’t bat an eye because the hero being a child is expected, but in media targeted at older audiences it’s like “You’re going to kill A CHILD???? Who does that???? You sick piece of garbage!”
As master Skywalker once said: "This is where the fun begins!"
@@kgb4973💀
@@kgb4973"Master Skywalker, there's too many of them! What are we going to do?"
@@narrow3601
*Ignites lightsaber
“You’re going to kill A CHILD???? Who does that????”
The villain does that :3
_"what sick man sends babies to fight me?!"_
*-Heavy Weapons Guy - 2007*
"I'm owning you fatty fat fat fat fat"-spy's son
This is the start of the “villain is hero’s parental figure” trope. I CANNOT WAIT TO SEEE MORE!
There is a manga like that "depressed hero and the demon chieftain" or something like that. Basically: heroine is send to kill the demon chief (she is 13) and as he does his evil speech, she throws her sword down and begs him to end her. He is so flabbergasted that he doesnt know what to do. he finally decides to take her in and being pretty much her new father figure. Its a fun read
@@Psychoangel-d23too bad its a very slow update.
Well you have trasure planet
"But sir, if the prophesy is true then the child will eventually slay you."
"So? I am not so insecure as to kill children because some fairytale told me to. That would be admitting I can't win against some predetermined fate."
Plot twist, the child eventually "slaying" him is the child taking him off life support
@@icicle_aiAfter a long happy life of course. Being raised by the Dark Lord let the Hero intimately know his wants.
Like for the Hero to be happy. And to not wastes away his final days dying on a bed.
@@redacted5824 of course
Funny thing is if he did try to kill the child, it's 100% certain the child would have held it against him and slayed him because of it.
@@giogio4222yeah, Greece made that trope as to say that you can't avoid fate.
(Also they often went to prophets for decision making, such as when to start a war or something, so of course this came naturally)
Villain: "Okay who is it this time?"
Henchman: "Well this old man said he wanted to fight you."
*Villain sees old man with a sword and walking cane*
Villain: "Well at least it's not a child. So are you like a wizard or monk or something?"
Old Man: "I was a warrior back in my day but I'm a little rusty, I also want to die fighting."
Villain: "So your not a powerful mastic man and your not the chosen one?"
Old Man: "They think a child is the chosen one and they want to send him to fight you. I think they just like killing children. Unlike me who's lived a full life and is ready to die."
Villain: "Seriously, what's wrong with the oracle!?"
Old Man: "I don't know. Fight me to the death."
This is really funny
The Villain:
BRO I AM NOT KILLING AN OLD MAN FOR NO REASON I MEAN YOU JUST WANT TOBPROTECT THE KID...
EVEN I HAVE SOME STANDARTS...
The Old Man:
“If you won’t fight willingly then I will force you! Raaahhhh!”
*crack*
“OOOOHHH MY BACK!”
*collapses*
Villain: “Take this man to a nursing home…”
@@bullmoosevelt4495 meanwhile at the the prophets house, “ if I keep sending all of our villagers In need of help the dark lord will be to occupied helping people to cast his cosmic spell only available today”
I'm half imagining the villain doesn't take the old man seriously, until the geezer takes off his shirt and is revealed to be absolutely fucking ripped.
Little did he know, caring for this child would set him on a path of good.
Thus the champion "defeated" the dark lord, just as the prophetess predicted.
That's genius.
Clever.
This reminds me of a D&D villain from a campaign I ran. The party showed up tired, dirty and angry, and he was horrified that his enemies didn't have time to prepare better for fighting him. Cut to him holding a banquet for them while asking how their adventure to kill him was going and they were all thoroughly confused
This reminds me of that one moau anime where the demon king turn out to be a demon queen with big mommy milkers. She had been waiting for years for him to stop her. They became a couple and they told the world they are both very injured fighting one another.
This is what I want to run Curse of Strahd like.
@loganshaw4527 I would like to know the name of the anime because it sounds interesting
That feels a very Doctor Doom thing to do
@@loganshaw4527 Kinda reminds me of MGQ.
The Dark Lord of my D&D campaign is like this. He has a strict 'No killing kids' policy.
He thinks the 'Child Hero' trope is absolutely messed up and proves the champions of righteousness are just as bad as he is, if not worse.
"I accept I'm a monster. But what does that make you people?"
“I am evil but at least I don’t send children to their deaths”
i like this Dark Lord
@@WildArmACF Funny story.
My party almost teamed up with him until one of them died and they blamed him for it.
They were going to help him with his plan once he explained what he was doing and why.
Then the Wild Mage called a Void Elemental "A weak little b%$&#" and got unalived... Party went "Dark Lord, YOU use the Void. This is on you."
And he shrugged and went "That is an unsurprising conclusion."
to face the monsterous we must in turn be even more monsterous
"I am evil but even *I* have lines I won't cross"
9001 IQ play by the prophet, who successfully sent the hero to defeat the Villain by appealing to the last shred of their humanity having them focus on becoming a good parent instead.
Up until the supposed “Champion” join the side of the Villain…
Which at this point, isn’t a bad idea.
Villain: “I swear I’m not stopping. I’m just going to put my plans on pause until this toddler graduates college or something.”
One of my fav tropes tbh
Fr 😂
Then the villain gets emotionally attached to them
Just give him a few years and boom, stable heir to the dark throne.
You unintentionally described Despicable Me
I do love the "they're sending children?! Wtf?!" kinda villains. Other than them having standards being hilarious, it does add whole other level on who's REALLY the villain.
Seriously just imagine it "They've done this before. Other children have DIED because of them. I was one of those children... Why do you think I fight them, and try to burn away everything they stand for?"
NEED THIS
Great idea
I support the birth of this idea with thoughts and prayers.
Because of who is kid an orphan? Because of Oracle? No, because of Dark Lord? Hm, okay, Dark Lord still IS the villain after all. Or is orphaning a child and making him starve and sell himself for money are just hilarious evil hijinks, but refusing to kill makes him a hero?
@@feameldo In your classical story, yeah, it is not rare for the vilain to be responsible for the hero to be an orphan... but, given the narrative and all here... I dunno. May have been a kid who ould have still been an orphan with no demon lord around. (like, mother dies in childbirth, father dies from sickness or something and there are no other relatives or shit)
She's telling vulnerable orphans that they're special to coax them into doing what she wants. She sounds better by the minute
My sides hurt from laughing so hard. I can see this happening. Even the villain has lines they won't cross. I love the disbelief in the guy's voice. I would be the same way if I was in the villain's place.
The villain has the psychology of actual criminals in prison when serial killers and gangsters join up in prison to murder pedophiles in prison for hurting children
He probably caused the death of his parents smh
While this is not included on the Evil Overlord List, I do think it is a more than acceptable way to negate chosen one prophecies at least for a time.
@@demonic_myst4503 Yeah family and children are sacred even in prison.
I would tear you apart because I show mercy to none then.
Unless I like you. But that's if I like you.
The villain does not resent the hero, he resents the mentors for sending children to do their work
Its like those histories when the main character almost kills the villain
But the master is 100x stronger than both of them together , he knows the villain is going to destroy the world and he could kill him there but he wants to watch until the villain comes to kill him to become a motivational flashback for the MC
well thanks to that he is now a father and has an heir of darkness so it's a win win
I would watch the utter fucking shit outta of a show based on the "destined" hero being adopted and raised by the main antagonist because he's a literal fucking child, lmaooo
love the idea the Prophet and the Villain are more like rival coworkers that keep sending middlemen to deal with their shit
I love the idea that they both just go back and forth with each other. Like,
Prophet: "Yes! Your the chosen one, defeat the villain for us hero."
*Child arrives at Villians base*
Villain: ....
Villain: "go back home, kid."
and the kid goes back home and the prophet sends him again snd it goes like that for a while before the child decides to just stop
or until he gets adopted by the villain
Remember me of a parody, then the hero and villain need each other, so the villain always place the capture hero in a easy to escape from death machine, and the hero always fail to catch the villain then he flee.
“The young hero will sit on the throne once dirtied by the evil lord, claiming it as his own”
*Hero gets adopted by the villain and becomes his successor, inheriting the throne*
Add onto that: there's this spot of grime that the Villain could never get the time to scrub out due to being too busy. The Hero, who HAS the time, takes a rag to the grime, cleaning it off.
"Wait a minute, I thought this was supposed to be a happy ending? Wasn't he supposed to bring peace to the land?"
"I mean, all the prophecy said was that he'd slay the Dark Lord. And he did kill him. Didn't say what he'd do afterward."
That sounds like a title to a light novel
"The best way to defeat your enemy, is to make them your friend" - Master Wu probably
Yes
I’ve always wanted a series about teenage heroes fighting against a villain who’s flabbergasted by the idea of having to fight literally children. Just saying “where are your parents?”
To be fair, it's usually the villain trying to murder prophesied heroes in the cradle that kicks it off
Okay, I know this meme is done _to death_ at this point but I think "Where the fuck are your parents? Who are your parents? I'm gonna call child protective services, its time to stop!" is appropriate for this scenario.
@@TheDaxter11 Usually the parents are dead because of the villain.
If it was not for these children and this dog!
Teenage arent literal children tho
You know how in some stories the Hero doesn't want to abandon their lives, but the Villian inadvertently motivates them by trying to kill them to prevent a prophecy. I love the idea of a Villain derailing the prophecy by befriending them, or just not antagonizing them.
Ah yes, the God of War: Ragnarok approach. The prophecy is what will occur if no one changes, not the only outcome. A BBEG going from conquest to "Your king sucks at this, I can do better" becomes a very different fate.
Not a video game example, but there's a lovely inverted example of this in one of the post-show movies from Babylon 5. The short version is that there's an heir to a space monarchy that's prophesied to eventually go on an expansionistic interplanetary murder spree, with the space wizard guy who makes the prophecy insisting that the only way to avert that fate is for the hero to murder him as a teenager.
The actual solution is that the hero just outright adopts him because he sees that this goofy kid who gets super excited about finally getting to fly a fighter and expresses confusion that anyone might do anything for any reason other than gaining political power MIGHT not be destined to be an evil murderous despot if he hangs around with decent normal people sometimes.
If Voldemort wasn't a complete moron.
With a villain like this, you don't need heroes.
I love how the villain is more responsible and has better standards than the prophet. Also I’m fairly certain the villain adopted the kid in the last panel.
I think a better ending and one that makes more sense is if the villain cared for the kid personally until he found someone willing to adopt, after which he would go confront the prophet
Maybe that's why the prophet sent the boy in the first place
@littlemoth4956 Disagree
The best ending in my opinion would be if the villain enjoyed the Prospect of parenthood so much that he quit his villainous ways in order to focus on raising the child and to be better role model for them.
See also Captain Marvell
We're here talking about responsibility and standards when evil is a spectrum. Plenty of dark lords don't care about age and will still kill children, even taking great pride in doing so. Others even outright hate children and they think pediacide as a good thing.
Oh that ending is so wholesome.
I just...you thats probably how. Thats probably how the prophet figured the child would become the hero. He would just placate the villain by giving him an orphan child to raise instead of being evil.
The way he talks implies he not only knows the prophet personally, somehow, but that they likely do this whole prophecy thing casually, like, the villain probably isn't even all that bad. Just misunderstood.
The prophet is his ex.
@@Ijustusethistocommentstuff Who he gets back together with and raises the orphan with as a family.
@@tsubakiofmelancholy6297 You would think someone would get back together with someone who convinced a kid to kill a man?
@@Ijustusethistocommentstuff That's the twist. She knew the kid would not succeed, and knew the villain would not hurt the kid. She was using reverse psychology to make the villain become good, and give the orphan a home in the process.
The kid actually stops the villain by making him have a stronger sense of humanity and empathy
You can really feel the disbelief and downright disgust in that "She's sending children now?!"
what?
What was she sending before? seniors?😅😜
You know you fucked up when even the darklord with a demonic voice say you’ve crossed the line.
Fr only sick people in the head like you would do such madness
"SHE'S SENDING CHILDREN NOW?!"
I don't know why i love this line so much lmao
Professionals have STANDARDS
This is by far one of my favorite under-utilized tropes: villain takes in too-young "hero/champion/chosen one" character
Ik people are envisioning a version where this is how the villain turns good
But tbh, it’s bleak but I really love the version of this trope where the villain who’s a good dad and genuinely cares about his kids and the villain who 100% IS the bastard and monster guilty of all the crimes we thought he’d be are equally one in the same.
I guess it cause, as a society we collectively subscribed to the notion that certain parts of us are somehow not us, due to our choice to sometimes deny or reject these parts of ourselves
The good parts, the not so good parts, the masks we put on to save face, the intrusive and impulsive thoughts, are disabilities are all in some way derivative of us being the common thread between them all.
Those parts of us are All just us, they each play a part in making us who we are in a way that can’t be said if they were just separated.
It’s rare, but I always find it super interesting for heroes and villains alike to recognize that the evil side of the person they were fighting and the side that genuinely loves people and has wants and ambitions are equally real
It adds a whole new layer of drama and subtext to the baddies they’re fighting vs if it were all just some facade that they can turn off like a switch
Imagine someone falling for someone who’s 100% evils completely naturally, only to discover that the aspects that you love them for are some of the same aspects that they’re using to hurt others with
That person who you love isn’t just “in there somewhere”, they’re standing right in front of you, and the horror and sorrow that can come when you see it as clear as day.
Same vibes when these aspects play a roll into what motivates them to be evil or good.
I guess part of this comes from the fact that aspects of writing villains are a double edge sword
I get how making them 100% unabashedly detestable and writhe in it can make us hate them, but it can also lead to us failing to see them as anything tangible a lot of the time.
And when I say what I listed in my previous comment, I’m not even talkin’ about giving villains sympathetic or tragic backstories or anything that extreme either
I just mean the weird irony of just allowing them to be 100% monsters, but just have other facets of who they are outside of that can make them feel more real. all while being grossly, cartoonishly vile surpringsly
I feel like it just stems from the fact that no one is ever 100% one side of themselve under literally every circumstance
So giving them morals, ethics, dislikes, hobbies etc that have 0 to do with what they do while evil not only fleshes them out, but it makes them memorable and gives the times when they actually flex how bad they are and some much needed clarity and contrast.
It’s terrifying, relatable and surprising cause we know who they are when they’re not that, so it’s scary to see what they become when they are.
Sometimes there’s fun in just having these aspects be out in the open rather than just be a facade or Locked away somewhere.
Arcane?
BBEG: “Oh my god those monsters are conscripting child soldiers! I have to overthrow their kingdom for the good of the people!”
And blammo, redemption arc and the dude doesn't even realize it
@@deamonrodriguez7032 More like ""villain" was right the entire time"
@@_jpg With a touch of "but his methods could use work"
@@Meriliremthe Robin Hood idea, good end goal, questionable route to said end goa
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Nah, just a switch in motivation can make a huge difference. Someone out for power conducts their campaign VERY differently than someone trying to liberate. And if a BBEG makes that switch, you're going to have a MUCH worse time since now they're justly motivated.
That 'dark overlord' character is basically the Cyberleader from 80's Doctor Who. The voice modulation, the deepness, the mannerisms of the evil speech, even the "EEEXcellent" is the same! Now I'm imagining the young boy Hero as Adric...
"The Doctor's sending _children_ now?! Jesus fucking Cyberchrist..."
I don't think the Doctor would really do that, tho. Idk if cybermens and the Master are enemies but that feels like a Master thing. Idk tho never watched the show, just going off of clips. Sorry fpr my lack of knowledge
@HeyYouFromThatGame No problem. Adric was a companion of the 4th and 5th Doctors from the early 80's, only a teenager when the Doctor picked him up. In Adric's final story, 'Earthshock', he, the Doctor, Tegan and Nyssa encounter the Cybermen. Without spoiling it too much, it doesn't end well for poor Adric, though the scene is well known in the fandom anyway, even to those who haven't watched the story.
@@Mr_Bunk oh. Poor guy
He melted his heart and as a wise man once said “the best way to defeat an enemy, is to make them your friend.”
Was that a Lego Ninjago reference?🙃
@@Ellionidas5630 yes...
yes it was and i love it
Didnt Abraham Lincoln say something along those lines too?
"melted his heart?" No, the villain has heard the wise man's words and, in cold rationale, is using them against the chosen one. He utilized the same tactic when the oracle had sent brand new "adventurers" against his superior might. They are now the henchman that brought the chosen one before him.
and then they took over the world. The End.
I would love a full story that starts off like this. A child soldier indoctrinated into believing themselves to be 'the champion' of a cause gets taken in by the supposed villain and comes to learn that the life they have always known has been a lie. That or they just because an evil mastermind. Either way.
Or both. BBEG is still evil (AKA conducting scorched earth policy, executing POWs en masse, engaging in slavery, maybe even has a harem) but at least he doesnt absolve himself trying to justify his actions like rest of the world. He just names the things as they are.
I got you, bro. Just gimme a month.
(I need a week for the script, A week to draw, A week to edit and, at least a week to find someone to voice act it.)
Book I read has a rando get summoned to a fantasy world to retrieve the holy blade so that the demon lord can be slain. Cue one panicked rando and a very hurried explanation that the holy blade is 20 feet away on the other side of a barrier that nobody from the setting can cross, and once the sword is back across the barrier it will be given to a fully-trained knight to wield and the rando will be sent home.
George Lucas already did that. It didn't end well for a bit. Specially for the other Orphans.
Hunter from the Owl House
"but sir this child is the chosen one"
"Hell nah not in that skinny form he aint, bring me my FINE CHINA"
“….And so the Champion did indeed vanquish the dark lord. Not by strength of arms. But by opening his heart to fatherly love.”
"Batman, what is that?"
"That's Robin. My sidekick."
"That is a twelve year old in spandex."
Pandaredd reference
"Hello? CPS?"
"Yes? But he's a highly trained martial artist who can fight anyone that stand in his way"
"Jesus Christ Batman, you're using child soldiers now?"
@@gibleyman "I'm not but his grampa was grooming him into one! He or gets in danger in my front or behind so stfu"
@Foi só pra curtir And let's not forget the fact that dick grayson's backstory has been changed a bit that he was already being targeted by the Court of owls As a talon. So Bruce pretty much adopting him was a very good decision In the long run Is looking at what it entails to become of a Talon
“I’m always pleased to see this…long live the merciful dark lord!”
Awesome, I’ll see you next time
Have to be honest, when I saw the title I was expecting it to be that the hero was more destructive than the villain, and as the closest thing to authority he was charging the hero for his crimes.
"You are hereby charged for mass murder."
"Aw come on. It wasn't that bad."
"You slaughtered an entire Drow city!"
"Yeah. They were evil."
"Don't give me that. You can't just go up to an entire civilization and decide their morality for them."
"Sure I can. I'm the hero."
"Christ. Can I get a new hero? Somebody who isn't eviler than me? You know, the Dark Lord?"
o no he got the murder hobo "hero"
I was expecting that as well. It's more creative to have the prophet who sends children out to fight the villain be the true villain.
… they got my Skyrim character oh shit… HOW ARE THEY STILL ALIVE?
Based on the Thumbnail I thought the Villain wouldn’t accept not being the Hero, thinking what he was doing was right, so it would be like
“Why are you doing this?”
“_I’m_ the Hero!”
“No, I am.”
"The Drow's slaves didn't complain."
I like the implication that the villain knows the "oracle" is getting rid of their undesirables by sending them on a "quest" against the BBEG.
Also he knows it wasn't him who made the kid an orphan. He remembers his Tuesdays.
Cultured you are, yes. *Yoda*
Honestly what you just said gave me a nasty while funny Reminder of The Bard's Tale. Referring to the hack and slash during the PS2 era version.
A recurring joke in the story that is relevant to your character is You keep coming across a bunch of idiot Village boys declaring themselves the chosen one. Right before they get killed off in the most ridiculous and Too dumb to the live fashion. At a point you run into these dudes you pretty much proclaim you the chosen one. Figuring out why you keep running into these idiots getting killed even come across One town that decided to pretty much arrest all the idiot chosen 1 And put him into a jail cell for their own safety.
And the big kicker is turns out the druids who have been attacking you And acting all evil like turns out there actually the good guys. And the so called beautiful maiden that all these chosen ones including you are supposed to rescue turns out she's actually a demon that will destroy the world. And the so called bad guys were too idiotic to stop for a second and tell You're protagonist The Bard What's up instead just going straight to trying to kill you Before they finally f****** tell you right in the finale. I mean want to take the idiot villager boys into account you kind of see why they want straight to try and kill you since they seem too idiotic to even listen to them. But still silly and I had a good laugh especially once the beautiful maiden showed her true form. And the fact that you actually can decide the final boss Is either the leader of the group who's been trying to keep her sealed who's been trying to get rid of you and acting too much like a Villain with his voice. Or help him to deal with her Once and for all.
The game was well one of those games where it was self aware your characters constantly fighting with the narrator Who hate you so much that he will literally happily say he loves a good happy ending if you ever get a game over. And your character actually stops to wonder how the h*** a wolf has a freaking battle 🪓 inside of its stomach You know the classic question of every time you kill an enemy in hack and slash games. They dropped stuff that seems impossible for them to paddle their person like it's one thing if it's an enemy Warrior something like that dropping the weapon they were trying to kill you with. But wolves having gold pieces and such on them. That type of game that completely self aware of itself. I think there was a point where you actually go across dangerous terrain over a bridge of all the dead chosen ones.
@@paulman34340with the gold for the wolves they could have eaten em as for the weapons either the wolf has to be fucking huge or some witchcraft is going on
@@paulman34340game name?
@@yangchenlhamo7537 I just said it's "The Bard's Tale" at the start of the reply? And by that I mean the one that came out in the PS2/XBOX/Gamecube Era!
I love this so freaking much! I love how the villian is just so evil sounding and looking and then sees the hero is a kid and is like, "No, nuh uh. Imma be a father figure."
i can kinda see the kid growing up and becoming a Dark Hero hunting down prophets mages and royal families that are sending 10 yr. old kids to their death.
Oh hell yes.
Oh yeah 👍
That is intereseting
@@jexxisahuman9073 to be honest i kinda really wanted to write a story using that concept. here's a big bit of the story i reall wanted to work on.
the Demon lord adopted a 4 year old kid after the child's town was decimated, and the Demonlord raised him as his own flesh and blood and thought him all that he knew from using magic to being a skilled knight. all was well until a group of "Heroes" summoned by a Royal family under the guide of a "Benevolent" goddess the heroes with the help of the royal family and the goddess's blessing they successfully invaded the demonlord's castle and slayed the Demonlord. but not before the Demonlord manages to make sure his adopted kid is safe from the prying eyes of the royal family and heroes who slayed his only father figure. with the help of his trusted servants. 12 years had passed and the young boy has now grown into fine youngman travelling the world he had seen how the people celebrated his adopted father's death, and how the heroes saved the world, with the aide of the goddess and the royal family who summoned them.
but in truth those "heroes" where never deserving of the title at all infact they were worst, than how they portrayed the demonlord, as they were nothing more than just a bunch of egotistical, narcissist's who are willing to commit genocide under the false pretense of justice. and the royal family never really wanted to save the world in the first place. no they wanted to claim the Demonlord's land as his domain was reap with nearly unending resources to fuel their greed and finally the so Called Goddess who summoned those "heroes" whom the youngman calls the" False Deity" as there was nothing divine about the goddess when he first saw her. she was a manipulative,cruel, self absorbed goddess who is willing to demonize anyone who doesn't bow to her whim. which is what the demonlord did.
"i raised that boy, i'm so proud of him"
"Just because you are bad guy,That doesn't mean you are bad guy"
Villain: why are you a child?
Hero: well sir I was born at a very young age.
Plot twist : The villain adopts the boy and raises him. Through that, he is changed and becomes a better person, so the boy effectively "defeated" the villain.
Villains are the heroes of their own story. Seeing a villain who isn't an evil psychopath, nor a sympathetic psychopath is quite an interesting idea. Imagine a villain who isn't really a bad person at all and holds decent morals (such as the dude in this comic) but simply is the villain because they either have goals that aren't really the best for everyone or are at odds with the hero.
Could be a very interesting gray vs gray situation rather than the standard black vs white. Might even make you question the legitimacy of the hero as well. Very, very intriguing concept that isn't explored as much.
Imagine if the prophet was responsible for the villain's role attribution but nobody knows
Kinda am.reminded of Borderland 2. Handsome jack started out in pre seque.as a decent guy and even as crazed villain in 2 thought he was doing the right thing.
It *_can potentially_* undermine the satisfaction of the resolution of the plot, though.
If you make the antagonist have a compelling justification, or if the protagonist is too unjust or selfish, the viewer/reader/player can end up siding with the antagonist, which can make many typical plot resolutions really unsatisfying.
I personally feel like the concept of morally grey main villains is really _overplayed_ as a trope at this point. I honestly find it refreshing these days when there's an uncomplicated, typical, irredeemably evil villain in a given work of fiction.
No grief; no trauma; no ambitions for a better world-- just a ruthless, power-hungry, selfish monster with zero baggage and minimal moral complexity.
Now *_that's_* a villain that you want to see fall! Justice being served when it's unambiguously due? That's damn satisfying to see.
This is actually an incredibly smart play by the prophet. She sent an orphan child to defeat the dark lord and bring safety to the valley, which he actually accomplished. The dark lord learned compassion through raising a child of his own and left his evil ways behind to experience the joys of fatherhood. Brilliant.
I won't lie, This comic looks good, imagine if the prophet is actually a knight templar whose a little loony that's deadset on battling the forces of "evil" no matter how many youth die.
And he's gonna claim that the blood is on the evil forces
Lawful Evil
knight version of tf2 soldier
“I know I have basically conquered the world by now, but I didn’t think they were getting THAT desperate”
I truly want them to do this (properly) in at least just one game, because this concept has a decent amount of potential to go several places. Especially with player input if its a choice based game.
The Evil Lord kept murdering towns, burning fields, and his generally evil acts, but now he had a sidekick that would probably eventually betray him. BUT he would be betrayed by an adult, so the battle would feel a lot more fair in his eyes.
And so the once orphaned champion was taken in by the villain who took a liking to the boy and began to question his evil schemes. It turned out the prophet was right. The champion did bring an end to the villain’s evil ways.
Wouldn’t he just want revenge against the Prophet?
*Years later with the same hero's sword in his chest:* "I really didn't think that through."
"Evil overlord adopts child hero of the profecy and gives them the best life they can" is now in my list of needs
I'm evil, but not that evil.
Evil, not an asshole.
You are bad guy, but that does not mean you are bad guy
@@alex_marr Unlike the Prophet.
"Im evil, not uncivilized"
-random intern
Prophets be sending the most misserable human toddlers in the galaxy to defeat magical demons like they are pokemon 💀
"Go! Toddler! I choose you!"
"I-I'm not gonna fight that! You messed up creature!"
Toddler won!
Gained: 20 EXP, A loving home for the toddler.
This is how the Dark Lord raised the hero like his own son, teaching hil everything he knows. Ultimately, when the dark lord retired, the Hero replaced him as ruler of the Dark Army, fulfilling the prophecy of him "ending the reign of the Dark Lord"
There's a Manga with basically the same plot, only instead of a 10 year old it's like a 12 year old girl, same general concept though although a lot more bleak at first, girl was told she was destined to become a holy warrior, and when demons started attacking the village the villagers killed her parents as punishment like it was her fault and left her an orphan. Finally completely alone and despondent (like Naruto on the swing stuff) she storms the castle and begs the Big Bad just to get it over with, either she beats him and fulfills her destiny, or she dies and she can finally rest and see her parents in the afterlife. Big Bad acts pretty much just like the comic and instead adopts her as his magical apprentice.
Truth be told it's a very cute concept although the chapters are a big of a slog, after the first chapter (basically what I said above) it's just mostly cute stuff of the girl having a good meal, taking a bath for the first time, and the undead and demon servants taking a liking to her.
Do you remember the name of this manga?
Name?
The negative hero and chief of the demon army
@@justindodds3119 Thank you!
Neat. I’ll give it a look over
This deserves to be an anime. The concept feels so obvious yet I don't think this has been done in any popular animated series so it sounds like untapped potential.
"And that was how the champion, abandoned by all but the very thing he seeked to destroy, became the harbringer of death, destruction and demise"
I have never related so closely to a villain before in my LIFE! Like, why send a KID to do something?? They're fighting against an ADULT!! If it was a fellow kid sure okay but an ADULT?!?! Bruh
Can you imagine?
Dark Lord is still a child, so they send a child to go fight him behind the Fortress of Doom after class.
@@selkiara1272 LMAOOOO 🤣
Did someone say kids fighting? WHERE?!?!?!?!
Because the Dark Lord specifically WON'T kill him. An adult hero would be dead right there. This kid basically has plot armor until he grows old enough to be considered an adult. All you have to do is choose a kid who has potential and will never forgive the bad guy for some reason.
"NOT ONLY A KID, BUT AN ORPHAN"
bro this man is a really villain not a monster and this good
"Eh, I'm too lazy to fight him. Now, if I can just find an orphanage, I can send one of those kids to hopefully find some powerful sword and do it for me" is all I can imagine the prophet thinking before they sent him
Now, imagine if she couldn't find one, saw a family passing by and killed the parents herself, telling the hero that the villain did it?
Plot twist :O @@cferracini
Hehe funi nembur go brrt
I like how even the villain thinks getting an orphan to do the work is fucked up.
oh my god it has been a year since I made this comment
I imagine the Dark Lord going back to his village personally to find the Prophet and tell her "This is fucked up and you know it! Not even I'm using kids."
"I was expecting someone with yours reputation to be a little...Older"
-General Grievous
Dark Overlord: Where are your PARENTS?
Boi: Am Orphan
Dark Overlord: *facepalm* of fucking course you are…
"YOU KILLED THEM YOU JERK!"
"Huh? Oh sorry, I guess I have made a lot of orphans."
@@XX-sp3tt "I am so sorry about this, I try to maintain a proper genocide standard, and in this I have failed. To make up for this failure, I fully intend to ensure you don't make the same mistakes."
"What?"
"Either I kill you now, or I train you to do better and if sometime in that process you kill me, that's my problem now isn't it?"
@@XX-sp3tt "i memorise who i kill, you don't have a resemblance to anyone i have, nor sent anyone to kill"
Plottwist: the Child is the real Champion because he was the reason the Dark Lord starting his redemption ark 😂😂😂
The villain being the hero's dad figure is actually a brilliant, evil move.
Makes it all the harder for the hero to fight back, especially since he would be the only paternal figure the hero ever had.
I wanna see a continuation of this story so bad; just a villain raising a hero boi like a good dad
I imagine he's like
"Right, son, it's time I go to work!
I'll burn a barn or two to ashes and I'll be back soon! Be good while I'm gone, son!"
"be bad while i'm gone"
Plot twist: The prophet didn't send the champion to kill the villain, but to warm his heart.
I like the ending were he just straight up adopts the kid and the line “I baked these myself” was just adorable
This actually sounds like the set up for an interesting story where the dark lord adopts the child, promising to keep them safe until they're old enough to fight.
Turns out he's not really that evil and the Oracle who sent the child was hoping to use them to defeat the lord and then control them as regent.
They defeat the evil Oracle and becomes the heir to the lord. But that prophecy still lingers, they will kill the dark lord one way or another.
Honestly I am more of a fan that the Oracle wasn't wrong and that the demon lord is truly an evil man though with standards. However the pressure of the Oracle and the citizens pushed the child (either directly or indirectly) to rush their quest.
So the child can't really blame the Oracle, though is raised now by the demon lord that it was the Oracles fault.
At like 18, child is sent out with demon forces, does some stuff for the bad guys then realizes he actually will need to kill his adopted father, not out of hatred but the realization that the only peace is the death of his adopted father and for the son to take over to lessen the conflict between the humans and races, thus fulfilling the Oracles prophecy
Or the dark lord dies protecting the hero his child
@@henrymcbark7337Someone needs to write this.
Then the child gives him a cookie and the dark lord dies because he had diabettes
I love when story's build up to an epic fight and then the villains just like A CHILD?! And then they adopt said child from the people who sent him on the missions and what not❤
Plot twist, eventually the boy grows up and the evil man is like "okay, Ima be honest here, I was really evil until I met you, but you gave me what I needed: as on to rear. So strike me down, defeat me, and go be better than I was in my life."
Bigger plot twist: it was his fate to defeat him. No one said anything about killing, not even that it had to be by force. "Kill them with kindness" as they said. The second he started baking those cookies it was already over he just didn't know it yet. The prophet is a genius!
@@thespanishinquisition4078 She still sent a kid to die
@@KuperSpyronicStudios Facts
Biggerer plot twist: the hero becomes a respectable adult and finally stops the prophet from sending CHILDREN TO FIGHT INCREDIBLY POWERFUL ENEMIES.
@@KuperSpyronicStudios Well not really. The henchmen weren't a real threat because they had orders to take him alive. So if she knew the villain wouldn't possibly stoop low enough to murder a defenseless kid in cold blood, then she knew the kid would survive. If that was the case this was some expert manipulation by her.
Now this is a promising Fantasy story. Titlebgoes something like: "I'm adopting a orphaned Child Hero the Prophet sent to defeat me" and it's just a adorable father-son story
"Come to the dark side. We got cookies"
Okay, the wonderful comic aside, I *seriously* appreciate the voice acting in this. Goes hard, and I appreciate a good reverb to a deep, often helmeted, voice.
I love the idea that the prophet didn't send him out, but rather he snuck out before he was ready. So, it just ends up being a super misunderstanding between the two when they inevitably talk about this
Demon Lord: “Is this how you recruit your child soldiers now?”
Prophet: “I don’t make the prophesies, I just foretell them. Besides, he left without my knowledge.”
Demon Lord: “Oh, you didn’t see that one coming?!”
Prophet: “Well if you’re so much better, why don’t you try raising a child?”
Demon Lord: “Fine! … wait.”
Prophet: **smug smile**
And there’s our isekai. “I was resurrected as the demon lord but I was too busy raising the hero to take over the world”.
There also two others where the demon lord take care of the hero or heroine, especially with one wanting to unalive themself.
I swear, if this was a series/anime i would totally watch it. I like the idea of an Evil Lord who finds out that the Hero destined to defeat him is just a child. So he decides to raise the kid with the prospect of killing him once he's an adult... only for both of them to grow a son/father bond.
There is series where dark lord become step father of child hero.
He spare hero live, return her to mother home, love in hero mother and confess to her.
All story is about dark lord atempt to finalize marriage and be accept as father.
For some reason I thought about Chirin's Bell, but it is more like a revenge story. The son-father bond is still present though
@@liszarezo3658 what's the series's name?
@@immanuii "I, the Demon Lord, got married to the female hero's mother".
Another comment says a manga like that exists. A response says it's name is "The negative hero and the chief of the demon army". Haven't looked it up tho
"It is your fate to defeat me." Figuratively, apparently it was fate that the dark lord adopted the hero and ended up domesticating himself so he could be a responsible parent.
I interpret it another way😅
"now he not only defeated the champion but he adopted him and now he is the prince of darkness"
0:21 oh well uh, this is the wrong time
As someone who is a fledgling science fictionw writer; an avid D&D player and campaign writer, and hopefully one day a published author, this is something I can totally enjoy and relate too. Good villains have Morales and standards; the fact he went out of his way to say "hold up a kid?!" And consider his actions makes him a good villain in my opinion.