Ukraine House Davos 2022 - Day 1 - Keynote: What is at Stake in Ukraine and Why You Should Care
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2022
- Speaker: Timothy Snyder, Richard C. Levin Professor of History, Yale University; Permanent Fellow, Institute for Human Sciences, Vienna
Moderator:
Victor Pinchuk, Ukrainian Businessman and Philanthropist
I am German. And I am angry. We still have to talk to other Germans who say: Ukraine can't win, Ukraine's interests are not our interests, what if we freeze in the Winter, Ukraine is so corrupt, and how can you be sure that most Ukrainians really want to fight to defend their country? I am trying to use some of prof Snyder's arguments to counter. I am NOT a historian. I have very little idea. But it strikes me that history can be turned this way or that way to give arguments to any side. So in the end I will have make up my own mind. Don't we all wish, that we did not have to deal with this shitshow, most of all Ukrainians. But simply. In this war I can only be with Ukraine.
What does "being with Ukraine" actually mean? According to RD Precht (referring to Max Weber's concept of Gesinnungsethik), the phase of war in which we are now is no longer about intentions. It's all about victory or defeat. A Ukrainian victory would mean pushing the Russian army back behind the front lines before february 24th (before 2014 for some...); the victory of the Russians would mean that they go on taking more Ukrainian territory bit by bit...
@@Namuchat looks like it, doesn't it. I would like to see it this way. I would be committed to send all the weapons I had. Everything I can give. And I would want to keep money ready for a rebuilding of this country that Europe has not seen before. Was I anti Russian before? I never hated Russia. I did not like Putin at all though, over the last 10 years that guy just showed signs that made you think wtf. And recently I was treated to what national channels say about Europe and Germany at 8 pm prime viewing times! They made us out to be: sick, deprived, unnatural, spineless, greedy and do on ....which is of course in part is what we are...but the examples they use and how they sell stories is...absurd. the west never did that....show me the most anti Putin / Russia channel in Europe and we can compare Europe's Dorset with russian mainstream! I think Russia should not win. Ukraine is by no means perfect. But to hey are not the aggressor. Russia is.
@@thesilkpainter This thread is not about Russia/ Ukraine. In the meantime, pick some self respect!
@@Namuchat which is what I have done. And you?
@@Namuchat and I re read your post before....aaaaaaall abut..oh...Russia and Ukraine. Yea I’ve read Precht...and listened to his exchanges with Lanz and others. I wish he would let people finish.
I can't find words to discribe my admiration for Professor Snyder. I am extremely thankful for his existence!
As am I ,he's honest and factual
What a powerful and wise speech! 💙💛 As a Ukrainian I am impressed
Youre not ukranian. Ukranians would never lay under the west.
It should be mandatory for EVERYONE to see this. Truly
As if it were required Propaganda?
God bless you Timothy Snyder
🙏💙💛
His content is revolutionary yet extraordinarily coherent, and the way he crafts his talk is genius.
I have so much respect for Professor Snyder. His words are important & his wisdom should be heard by all.
Superb historical and current analysis from Professor Timothy Snyder re Ukraine's moment in European history and the implications for the rest of the world
He is Pro Western interventionist. 🍌
@@worththewatch1517 Google describes Prof Snyder as, 'one of the world's leading experts on the history of Europe and one of the most distinguished intellectuals in the English-speaking world. He has made major contributions in European historiography, especially with his studies of the Holocaust, the Second World War, and totalitarian regimes.' He speaks five languages: English, Ukrainian, French, Polish, and German. Suggest read his book, Bloodlands. The present interventionist in the area is on account of Vladimir Putin
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World leading = US/Western aligned propagandist
@@worththewatch1517 Got to smile! If only that were true..
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> He is Pro Western interventionist.
Thankfully, he is not a non-interventionist.
Nobody, just nobody, does it like Prof Snyder.
Incomparable.
He's a bleeding heart. I've appreciated visting Russia this year. I've visited Ukraine too. I appreciate them both. This is not a conflict for the USA to be arming. Let Russia and Ukraine sort it out without the extra devastation the USA brings.
Thank you for emphasizing on the value of Democracy, " fighting for democracy is well worth it ", history elaborates the difficulty of maintaining democracy although it is in it's strenths that we also believe that we can defend it's ideal. Thank you for this lecture Professor Timothy Snyder.
I believe Timoty Snyder and Serhiy Plokhiy are true heroes for Ukrainians. It's not easy to speak louder than rotten russian propaganda from the other side of the ocean!
I'm extremely grateful for this!
Thank you Professor Snyder for your job and your books.
The US should be held accountable for what is happening in Ukraine.. Russian intetests and issues must be respected! The aggressions come/came from the West via Ukraine..
Timothy is so knowledgeable about the subject.
#StandWithUkraine 😊
What an exquisitely beautiful lecture. It moved me deeply.
He is teaching a great, eyeopening lecture to all Europeans and the world. Ukraine must win this war with the help of the free word and we should build a wider European house embracing this land and its people.
NATO:!! ADMIT UKRAINE NOW!! Despite Ukraine defending an aggression, at war, despite article 5. Look at it this way: the moment article 5 kicks in, Russia will have to go home. It is unable to fight a larger war.
The war ends with negotiations over reparations & the colossal rebuilding of Ukraine. 339 cultural sites bombed-museums libraries universities monasteries churches; 4000 schools, hospitals everywhere. Ukrainians’ homes.
Russia needs to pay cash to every Ukrainian citizen whose house or apartment was bombed, should be forced to pay cash to every family that has lost a Hero. Forced to pay the 500 families whose children have been killed or wounded. A trust fund for every single kidnapped child after all are returned.
Putin must be arrested, w his merry gang of crazy talkers & killers: peskov medvedev Lavrov Gerasimov Prigozhin, shoigu. All war crimes by every Russian soldier must be prosecuted by the world.
If the above all sounds pie in the sky, it is the only way this must end. It is one year later, after this brilliant talk, many many thousands of young, innocent, talented soldiers and Ukrainians who were just going about their lives who have now no lives to live. This is a travesty. If NATO is anything it must solve the daily atrocities being perpetrated upon an innocent population and a democratic government, despite Putin’s fantasy wish fulfillment!
As Professor Snyder reminds us, President Zelenskyy won with 72 % of the vote!!
Oppressors cannot be allowed to win. Period.
Please give me another hopeful example where mankind doesn’t exploit a handy energy resource for the sake of a higher value system😢
The US administration has the full responsiblity für the Ukraine crisis..
I am 72 years old and listening to Tim Snyder and others (like Anne Applebaum) has changed my mind about much of recent history. And not only Ukraine's history but right here in the USA. By that I mean how much propaganda emanating from first the Soviet Union to now Putin's Russian federation has affected our politics(especially the Left) over the years.
Same in Germany .
The influence aims at the racist-nationalist-fascist right at least as much. The Putin-Trump-connection is extremely disturbing, and T. Snyder has repeatedly pointed to these facts.
Great reasoning. Powerful advocacy. Always. Thx, Prof. Snyder.
I want to know more about the activity of the Orthodox churches in Eastern Europe, and Russia. Did t they speak out to support Ukraine. And if they didn’t, why not?
The Russian Orthodox Church stands firmly on the side of aggression, violence and genocide.
I am quite late, but .... 1. in Soviet times, most of the priests were KGB agents (my family and several other acquaintances of ours have a common history, which in 1970-80 they tried to baptize their children, but were later interrogated by the KGB on this matter) --} 2. A large number of Russian priests remained in the "system" after the collapse of the USSR ---} 3. The state (Russia) actively reprimanded I use the church as an instrument of propaganda among my own population, as well as among the population of the occupied territories (including priests who consecrate military equipment of the Russian Federation). + the same thing happens on unoccupied territories and in other countries where the Moscow Orthodox Church has power
Scary how much history repeats itself! 😐
No, it doesn't.
Very interesting historic context
So simple, yet so powerful and uplifting
Snyder is a legend.
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Great video ! And we humans wait and watch, the Stand by and watch. People who are capable of bringing peace and love not only in Ukraine. But to this so called global world. We are all spiders interconnected with gaps for allowing to breathe our individuality Pray peace and love rains in all the waring zones and people with power heart and minds filled with wisdom to bring peace. Thank you, love you all.
With Ukraine...
Russia has always ached under various tyrannies.
Ukraine is one country that struggles to be a democratic republic. It is an inspiration for everyone who values freedom and human agency.
No matter how deep its roots may be in the institutions of any nation, democracy is NEVER guaranteed. And democracy is never valued by all people - even in nations that pridefully proclaim themselves to be “freedom loving” democracies. Democracy is alway attacked and resisted, and not only by oligarchs.
One important thrust of Snider’s work is to re-emphasize the links between empire and tyranny. One way the two are entwined is how “empire” confuses (perverts) our sense of patriotism when you grow up in an imperial center (France, England, Russia, China, the US etc)
If democracy fails in the US (as it may well) our “investments” in empire will be one of the causes.
How is it that Mearsheimer’s utter nonsense gets upwards of a million views, yet Timothy Snyder’s thoughtful lectures only tens of thousands?
Why is Snider not as popular as Mearsheimer? Because Snider is nothing more than an enthusiastic supporter of western propaganda!
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Beautifully succinct take on the history of Ukraine and the larger region. Although I much prefer Mearsheimers take on the reality of the current geopolitical situtation.
Also the closing remarks towards global warming and empire seemed silly to me. On a per capita basis its the west not the Russians who pollute to scale. It's the west who redefined empire in the 20th century and lead to the geopolitical situtation of stagnation and private equity domination we currently have before us.
It’s also the West who produce “to scale” and originate almost all of modern medicine, science, technology that enriched the entire world.
The consequences of „hydrocarbon oligarchs“ for earth history can hardly be underestimated. As German minister of finance C. Lindner rightly put it: „renewable energies are energies of freedom“.
32:30 Freudean slip Lol.. what is the first Russia? Ukraine? Dirtbag.
It would be wonderful to have President Zelensky and you share a stage together! Hopefully it will happen as soon as this dreadful war ends. Glory to Ukraine!
patience. The pressure of time should be on Russia; not Ukraine.
Slava Ukraine.
Thank you, Dr. Synder. Please bring this message to right wing outlets in the USA, if possible.
Ukraine was never democracy from the beginning of it’s creation 1918 thru it’s independence until today. There where “elected” 6 presidents each one came to power as millionaires and left billionaires, Zelensky is not exception. They sold national companies, all fertile earth, all weapons arsenal; fighter jets, ships, tanks and vehicles to all war zones from 1991 till today; Yugoslavia, African and Asian conflicts. 15 millions Ukrainian citizens fled country because they where jobless poor and not protected . Ukraine has reputation as one of most corrupted country in the world. All what Ukraine won it was Eurovision song contest as sympathy because of the war. Nothing positive in Ukraine. Ukraine is not country and it has cesse to existe just like Yugoslavia or Czechoslovakia other ways we could all die just for love of Ukraine does it worth all these deaths?
As wee seen this, Austrians just don;t care about anything you gonna say:(
We know that
Tim used to be a scientist, but he wanted some glory, and he became a propaganda pusher and a couch warrior.
The talk on olive trees made me remember the Palestinians. Please think of them in this. Fighting for their freedom from colonialism for 70+ years. 🇺🇦🇵🇸
No comparison. Palestinians have been offered a state many times. But they want everything.
Russiia supports Palestine & Iran. Palestine leader (Abbas) is KGB. don't be fooled by KGB.
Palestinian leader Abbas is KGB as reported by Reuters news. "was KGB" yeah. right.
YT robot posting comments to deliberately censor replies
Look , YT , if someone has problems with certain folks being identified as sand rats then YT had better start having problems with everybody else identifying anyone as either supremacist , racists , any manner of *phobes , or any number of terms identifying one group or other , , ,
Selective censoring is censoring specifically selectively , , ,
Why did Ukraine not honour the Minsk Accords? To respect the Russian-speaking people in the Donbas, and other minorities? What was the reason for the LPR and DPR resisting the U.S. supported Maidan coup? Were they afraid to be left in the hands of the Ukranian Nationalists? You cannot deny the atrocities committed by the Neo-Nazi Ukranian Nationalists against the Russian-speaking people in Ukraine since the collapse of the U.S.S.R.
Please do some research about the cruelty of Ukrain which collaborated with the Nazis during the last war. Just before the recent Ukrainian war with Russia, there were parades of Ukrainian Nazis in the Streets of Kiev..How come that such evil is never recognized or prevented by the Ukrainian Authotities?
speak english mr business man
It’s my opinion on the Fact and twisted of the democratic orders.
If’s it’s the Security of the Russia 🇷🇺 sovereignty, why’d not the government to defend? If’s the Ukraine is going to be the Colonial of the democratic manipulation?
How’s the democratic confronting freedom togetherness with Russia? How’s your homeland security living, especially with the Pandora leadership building for the democratic leadership and aggression freedom to have no trace of the Russia 🇷🇺 invading the Democratic government but the manipulation of humanity made for the peace ending of the Nato expansion in the extremists organization of the World disorder . Will you accept the war’s confronting freedom at your homeland borders😊, as well as the China is in the challenge for the USA dictatorship did today’s .
Why’d the socialism’s you make the propaganda of stirring fear 😰 to make War’s overseas?
Please do not forget that the poor Ukrainian killed as many as 33,000 jews, man women and children in the most cruel of way during the Olocaust in Babi Yar in the capital of Kiev.
If it's from Davos, it must be a lie.
I have little respect for Snyder and his scuwered" historical" narratives.
I’m sure you’re a fan of Mearsheimer, then.
Oh , then do you have respect for Stalin's treatment of Ukraine as he destroyed them ?
@@gregjames2684 no.
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, then explain "no"
Snyder has more to say about what has happened historically than many others who don't/won't say anything about Stalin's decimation of Ukraine , , ,
Of his view of that history , what more or different can you add to his summary of events ?
@@gregjames2684 I do think Snyder wrote good books , Blood lands, black earth ect and presented his subject well. And i wouldn't say he falsifies history. We can all agree that what happened with Stalins collectivisation program in Ukraine was a criminal disaster. I would however suggest that in this talk he does falsify history in the sense that he presents a good guy ,bad guy version of History which leaves out a lot of important infomation. I would also say that i think he presents. a distorted view of UKraines history.I am not a historian ,so maybe i am not qualified to have opinians, but i do.
Another loud and well paid voice for our owner class. Let’s rewrite history. Imperialism rocks!
Well, maybe Ukraine should surrender while it still exists?
I guarantee that Ukraine will exist no matter the outcome of the war, and most likely will be rebuilt and will prosper. The sure way for it to be destroyed is to surrender. Why don't you volunteer into gulag to follow your own advice