BattleTech Lore & History - First Succession War: Eternal Dishonour (MechWarrior Lore)

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  • Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
  • #battletech #lore #mechwarrior BattleTech Lore & History is a series by Sven van der Plank that covers the history of the #innersphere and Periphery within the #battletech universe. Presented as a #documentary from the year 3025, the videos cover in detail major events such as the Age of War, founding of the #starleague, #reunificationwar, the Golden Age, #starleague Civil War and the four #successionwar.
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    Sourcebooks Referenced:
    House Davion: Federated Suns (1623)
    House Kurita: Draconis Combine (1620)
    House Liao: Capellan Confederation (1624)
    House Marik: Free Worlds League (1622)
    House Steiner: Lyran Commonwealth (1621)
    The Periphery (1629)
    The Star League (1630)
    ComStar (1655)
    Handbook: House Davion (35024)
    Handbook: House Kurita (35205)
    Handbook: House Liao (35204)
    Handbook: House Marik (35019)
    Handbook: House Steiner (35001)
    Handbook: Major Periphery (35203)
    Era Report: 2750 (35222)
    Historical: Reunification War (35231)
    Historical: Liberation of Terra Vol.I (35232)
    Historical: Liberation of Terra Vol.II (35233)
    Historical: Operation Klondike (35230)
    Historical: First Succession War (35235)
    Historical: Second Succession War (35236)
    Field Manual: SLDF (35251)
    Field Report 2765: AFFS (35FR010)
    Field Report 2765: CCAF (35FR008)
    Field Report 2765: DCMS (35FR009)
    Field Report 2765: FWLM (35FR011)
    Field Report 2765: LCAF (35FR012)
    Field Report 2765: Periphery (35FR013)
    Jihad Hot Spots: Terra (35205)
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    0:00 A New Archon
    1:39 Marik Unstoppable
    2:50 Tightening Their Fist
    4:02 The Dragon Reawakens
    5:08 Operation HAIFISCHFLOSSENSUPPE
    6:50 Capellan Turning Point
    8:39 Raiding Frenzy
    10:00 Davion Shame
    10:59 False Start
    13:25 Prefect of Tikonov
    14:56 An Unexpected Death
    16:11 A Fateful Decision
    17:58 One Shot to Change the War
    19:35 The Kentares Massacre
    26:19 Outro
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Комментарии • 215

  • @SvenVanDerPlank
    @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +62

    Hey everyone. Next week's video is going to be releasing on Sunday (at the usual timeslot) because I'll be busy getting drunk Saturday night. Hopefully y'all can still make it.

    • @floriangallus7760
      @floriangallus7760 9 месяцев назад +6

      That is an honorable reason

    • @jefferynelson
      @jefferynelson 9 месяцев назад +2

      it's Saturday afternoon & I raise this beer to your well being

    • @Rellana1
      @Rellana1 9 месяцев назад +3

      Just a question,but do we know what's going on with the Clans at this time,while the Succession Wars are raging?

    • @floriangallus7760
      @floriangallus7760 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@Rellana1 Bitchfight slapfest and 'muh honor'

    • @gregdomenico1891
      @gregdomenico1891 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@Rellana1The Clan's don't exsist yet. The Old SLDF is still colonizing the Kerensky Cluster. That all changes here real soon, in 2800.

  • @aelreth-
    @aelreth- 9 месяцев назад +110

    "It was an AFFS Sniper that managed to kill nearly 52 million civilians with a single bullet" -Kurita

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +47

      Any sane reasonable individual will surely reach the same conclusion.

    • @samanthamccormick1436
      @samanthamccormick1436 9 месяцев назад +35

      If you disagree the ISF will happily discuss it with you. At length.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +39

      Just a friendly chat between friends.

    • @cygryl
      @cygryl 9 месяцев назад +7

      If Davion didn't want that level of bloodshed they shouldn't have fired that shot.

    • @afitz34
      @afitz34 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@samanthamccormick1436 The length of a katana.

  • @arwing20
    @arwing20 9 месяцев назад +51

    Its safe to say Kentares was heavily inspired by the real life atrocity of the Nanjing Massacre. Appropriate since the Combine are based on Imperial Japan.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +13

      I hadn't thought about the connection before but it's a fairly obvious parallel in hindsight. I actually don't know much about the real life event, beyond some of the details from the first few days. Dan Carlin had a superb series on Imperial Japan that discussed at length the ruthlessness with which they treated the Chinese in that era, but I think a lot of the discussion around Nanjing regarded it's modern day controversy and less so the actual slaughter. But then that was like a 30-hour podcast so I'm probably forgetting a lot.

    • @m4r00123
      @m4r00123 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@SvenVanDerPlank and after all thay they still dare blabbering about honor left and right where there is none

    • @cooljim1376
      @cooljim1376 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@m4r00123
      The Japanese honor system was largely for royals, but even then it was convenient at best. Japanese history is full of atrocities on their own people, so it is no surprise that during the second World War that that same brutality would continue.

    • @Dracobyte
      @Dracobyte 3 месяца назад

      Wow!

  • @richter6699
    @richter6699 9 месяцев назад +54

    I didnt think I would ever find an IP to rival 40k, but here we are!
    I just discovered Battletech through Mechwarrior 5, so this channel and Black Pants Legion have been amazing :)

    • @reecedignan8365
      @reecedignan8365 9 месяцев назад +5

      Welcome to the community mate, pull up your favourite mech, crack open a beer and sit back and enjoy the warcrimes.
      But overall glad to have you here and hope you stick around and enjoy.

    • @vp21ct
      @vp21ct 9 месяцев назад +14

      In 40k, there are supernatural and alien forces to make the world suck.
      In battletech, it's ALL on old fashioned human cruelty and greed.

    • @richter6699
      @richter6699 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@reecedignan8365 Cheers brother, appreciate it!

    • @richter6699
      @richter6699 9 месяцев назад +6

      ​@vp21ct Hell yeah. So far my impression is that it's a lot more technical as opposed to 40ks high fantasy approach. Really cool stuff

    • @jfangm
      @jfangm 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@vp21ct
      In 40k, it sucks, has sucked, and will always suck, if not suck MORE. In BT, it SOMETIMES sucks less.

  • @mkang8782
    @mkang8782 9 месяцев назад +21

    I never realized just how close to winning Kurita had come. Makes me wonder if this was the impetus for Davion focusing so much on training its troops from this point forward.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +14

      There's definitely an aspect of "never again" about the way the AFFS transformed into the premier power in the Inner Sphere, at least until it happens again later on in the timeline.

    • @robertbyerlay5040
      @robertbyerlay5040 9 месяцев назад +5

      I see that now too. The drive to New avalon was deep. Thus ilclan Era hijinks come to life. But didn't the Davion Civil War pre star league damage a lot of worlds in the crucial March? Was castle Brian strategy also copied my great houses? Thus better home defenses close to capitals.

  • @michaelman957
    @michaelman957 9 месяцев назад +13

    Ironically, the Massacre of Kentares probably saved the Fed Suns, as it showed them they had to win no matter the cost. With one order, Jinjiro lost them the war.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +6

      It galvanised the Federated Suns when they were facing an imminent defeat, but it also shocked the Kuritans into immobility. They lost all cohesion at the front, and they were a long way from home.

    • @RobtheStampede
      @RobtheStampede 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@SvenVanDerPlank Also the local ComStar precentor deciding to publicize it showed Blake and Toyama another way they could pull everyone's strings for the next few centuries.

  • @ZontarDow
    @ZontarDow 9 месяцев назад +8

    The fact that the massacre used only conventional weapons, and the ability of people to see it happening, is something people probably only now realise the psychological effect of when compared to the vague notion of a number that's beyond human comprehension. This weekend being a perfect example of this in the real world, though multiple conflicts over the past decade have managed to see similar effect due to the existence of social media which all had a more emotional impact on people then things within living memory of larger scale, such as the Congo civil war.

    • @ssjjshawn
      @ssjjshawn 2 месяца назад

      In a few months, with guns and swords Jinjiro matches Stalin and Mao's kill count and they did that over decades with Famines

  • @reecedignan8365
    @reecedignan8365 9 месяцев назад +14

    As a true son of House Davion, all that can be said is “Remember Kentares”. Tho to any loyal davion, we all know what Kentares truly means, and that big nice red blob is about to be driven in hard and the kuritan casualty numbers are going to sky rocket massively.
    But keep up the good work mate, can’t wait for you to have this series over so I can watch it through as 1 big blob but also stream it with my friends.
    And hopefully with the rising star of the Battletech universe, hopefully a few up and coming RUclipsrs and vtubers might be pointed in the direction of yours and Tex’s vids and we can see a new era of Battletech reactions to rival 40k ones.
    And while 40k one’s can have their “dramatic moments” just the human nature and feel of Battletech just leaves something completely different feeling in your heart after you watch these - especially when they are excellently voice acted too.

  • @aelreth-
    @aelreth- 9 месяцев назад +11

    Minor note, the talon Sgt that was dispatched to give the Coordinator that news. I hope he prevented that cowardly aide from having a second, or took up that duty and was derelict in beheading him. Kudos to the coordinator for being merciful to that enlisted man.

    • @Runningfromtheredqueen
      @Runningfromtheredqueen 9 месяцев назад +1

      IIRC it was the latter. Jinjiro personally took on the role of second and made a botched job by decapitating Sorai fully instead of leaving enough skin to keep his head attached to the body. Whether the botching was on purpose or not is known only to Jinjiro himself.

    • @foresttapper1106
      @foresttapper1106 9 месяцев назад +1

      52 million FedSun souls disagree with Jinjiro having any Kudos

  • @douggallagher8809
    @douggallagher8809 9 месяцев назад +37

    Love that you added episode numbers to them. Helps keep the order for rewatching and/or searching for specific info within. But would it be possible, when talking about planets on the strategic map, that you do a highlight of the names? So when you are talking about Tikonov, for instance, we don't have to scan the entire map section? A highlighted target(s) can help draw the viewer into where the OPFOR is going and movement of the regiment banners, from where the came, illustrates scope of the campaign, as it were. It is a minor thing, but with the map so huge, it could help in seeing the scope or movements of each house/unit

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +14

      Thank you for the suggestion, it's a very good one. I will look at making that change.
      I do use crosshairs regularly in the videos but it's usually to point out a planet when I don't know the specific unit involved in the attack (and thus, no regimental icon moving).
      I think what's happening is that I've spent so many hundreds of hours looking at these maps on my end that I've developed a horrifying ability to point to where these places are without even having to look. So when I say, "they went to Tikonov," that takes me about 0.1 seconds to locate. However, my mistake is forgetting that nobody but the super nerds like me have that knowledge.

    • @ericfeatherstone776
      @ericfeatherstone776 9 месяцев назад

      It's not horrifying, it's simple familiarity.
      England isn't terribly large, but as an American I'd be hard pressed to be able to point out where London is located. Yet I can point out the locations of several major cities in the US, a far larger geographic region.
      It's simple familiarity with the subject matter. Nothing horrific about it at all.

  • @usauk3605
    @usauk3605 9 месяцев назад +12

    You will have my interest to the end of this series and beyond. Your videos are always so entertaining, and feel like a real life documentary of these events. Keep up the great work, and, as a Fed Suns fan, “Remember Kentares!”

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you, I'm glad to have your support.

    • @m4r00123
      @m4r00123 8 месяцев назад +2

      It's the Kuritans that must remember Kentares anytime they mention anything about honor

    • @usauk3605
      @usauk3605 8 месяцев назад +1

      Agreed, and if they don’t, I am sure the AFFS will be happy to help them remember.

  • @Ironclockwork
    @Ironclockwork 9 месяцев назад +4

    I feel a proper TV series covering the history of the Battletech universe with the greatest of respect towards the lore would be absolutely amazing... but I would also be left crying/enraged/depressed after every episode.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +3

      I suspect any TV show that got made would leave BT fans crying/enraged/depressed, but probably not because of respect to the lore, but lore inaccuracy 😂

    • @Ironclockwork
      @Ironclockwork 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@SvenVanDerPlank Considering the current track record of media industry and how often it plays fast and loose with any creative source materials... I must reluctantly agree with your assessment.

    • @jmullner76
      @jmullner76 9 месяцев назад +2

      We always have the propaganda cartoon.

  • @NewsOfTheInnerSphere
    @NewsOfTheInnerSphere 8 месяцев назад +4

    Ironic that the events of Kentares IV had the opposite effect that House Kurita wanted. Instead of further demoralizing House Davion, it spurred them on to kick House Kurita back to (almost) pre-war borders. It also serves as an interesting formation of a future Merc unit; the Ever Free. One of the Kuritian officers who refused orders wasn't outright executed, but sent to a convict regiment where he met his wife and the two of them would then defect to House Davion.

  • @tx31
    @tx31 9 месяцев назад +5

    Man... And I though how the combine screw one of their own over when learning about the marauder 2 and the wolf's dragoons history was bad enough of an dishonorable display.
    Not going to be surprised if the fed sun guys starts to just start raining nukes and moving on in the next episode for the blood letting carried out.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +4

      The Kuritans have one more year of gaining territory before word of the massacre on Kentares spreads through the ranks like a virus and brings the campaign to a crashing halt. The shot that kills Minoru is a turning point in the history between the two realms.

  • @corinthianimperialstudios704
    @corinthianimperialstudios704 9 месяцев назад +3

    "You absolute psychopaths" bro stop calling me out
    I just wanted to see how you would handle the event and you handled it very impactfully

  • @ArawnNox
    @ArawnNox 9 месяцев назад +4

    That ending shook me. Well done.
    Also, happy to see a shout out to the Fighting Urukhai. I got a giggle when I stumbled across their Sarna article.

  • @jmill1334
    @jmill1334 9 месяцев назад +2

    These videos dont have enough likes man. They're so friggin good. I dont think most people realize how good and how deep the mechwarrior lore is.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад

      I'm continually surprised myself to learn just how deep the rabbit hole goes. Kind of madness that a relatively obscure sci-fi universe has more written about it than pretty much any more popular modern series. Only the juggernauts like Star Trek and Star Wars have a wider range of sources.

    • @jmill1334
      @jmill1334 9 месяцев назад

      @SvenVanDerPlank well thank you for deepening all of our knowledge, you deserve 10x the views and likes on each of your videos!

  • @BladePHF
    @BladePHF 9 месяцев назад +17

    Noticed you doing color swap when territories change hands - I really like this! I think if I remember right very early on you said in a comment it was probably not worth doing but I feel it works really well and I'm glad to see you changed your mind!

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +6

      I've been doing that throughout this entire series. It was always my intention to do so, that's why I made my own maps so I could more easily reflect the changes on screen.

    • @BladePHF
      @BladePHF 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@SvenVanDerPlank Ahh OK, I think maybe in the very first few episodes on BattleTech history map swaps didn't happen? Maybe I'm misremember but that's what I meant, comment included. Great series anyway!

  • @joelaugustin6407
    @joelaugustin6407 9 месяцев назад +2

    I had no idea. I already knew I didn't root for any of the successor states, but I hadn't been given a reason to hate a specific one as much as Kurita deserves. Its a symptom of this being a realistic setting, there are no good guys, but there are certainly worse guys.

  • @Beargeek616
    @Beargeek616 9 месяцев назад +1

    I have played Battletech since it's original creation, but this fictional story, just hits me in the feels for some reason.

  • @shawnarmitage7955
    @shawnarmitage7955 9 месяцев назад +2

    God, guns, and Battletech. Absolutely love your approach to the lore. Makes me with they would put thin down in novels.

  • @jessamynpratt5068
    @jessamynpratt5068 9 месяцев назад +3

    In the face of such nightmares, I often try to look to the helpers. I wonder if any of the tragically small number of Kuritans who defied Jinjiro managed to save some precious few lives.

    • @Celphied13
      @Celphied13 9 месяцев назад +1

      One example is from the Legacy (Anthology), specifically the short story titled "Swords of Light and Darkness" in which a Kuritan Tai-i struggles with his ideals of honor and duty as he hides a local Kentaran girl from his superiors. It isn't clear whether he was successful, but it highlights the inner conflict that was brought up with the file-and-rank Kuritans.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +4

      I may be combining two different short stories, but I think there was another story set during the Chain gang missions on the run-up to the 2ndSW (confusingly written before the Legacy anthology) that continues his story. He's haunted by the ghost of a girl he killed (or allowed to be killed) on Kentares.

  • @spectre111
    @spectre111 9 месяцев назад +4

    I think Kentares IV sticks out in the First Succession War because those others at least were not trying to kill civilians, it was just an unintended side-effect. Steiner may have nuked an entire planet but at least their goal was to deny Kurita the factories on the surface. When Jinjiro ordered the civilian population exterminated all he was doing was venting his own frustration and even undermined his own war effort.

    • @monkeybusiness673
      @monkeybusiness673 6 месяцев назад

      Well, I'd say that's a very charitable view of the general Succession War mindset. As our humble narrator pointed out several times up to this point, it was a very common attitude to grab what you can, and blow up everything else to deny your opponents any edge. I'd say that glassing entire civilisations can hardly be considered an "unintended side-effect". It's simply easier to push a button and annihilate a planet than to mobilize ground forces for a lengthy and costly campaign. It's business, nothing more.

    • @spectre111
      @spectre111 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@monkeybusiness673 Except you can't say 'It's business, nothing more' about Kentares IV. How was it supposed to benefit the Draconis offensive? It hurt the offensive, even ignoring moral because troops and supplies have to be diverted from the front lines to carry it out.

    • @monkeybusiness673
      @monkeybusiness673 6 месяцев назад

      @@spectre111 Well, yes. Which is precisely why it sticks out so much. Everybody else could point at the DC and say "That was really messed up, mate!", all the while ignoring their own atrocities which they willingly and without second thought accepted as "That's just how it works!"
      My point was that (in your example) Steiner denying Kurita the factories was the goal and nuking civilians in the process was just shrugged off, which imho is not really any better than Kentares IV.

    • @spectre111
      @spectre111 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@monkeybusiness673 I won't argue which is better or worse because it would be too marginal anyway.
      I think that is why Kentares IV stands out in BT despite other incidents. Unlike the others there is just no defense you could offer for it.

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 5 месяцев назад

      At least glassing major population centers from orbit was a fast demise. Waiting for maniacs with swords and small arms is far more drawn out suffering.

  • @oldmandeath
    @oldmandeath 9 месяцев назад +2

    Great job as always! I think it is good you point out why it was such a changer in the war. The fact it was so personal in a war that was usually less personal.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад

      It's a weird situation where the nature of the massacre coupled with the fact it was a turning point in the war means it has far more longevity in the public consciousness than the Exterminatus of several planets with populations in the billions.

  • @rudah90
    @rudah90 9 месяцев назад +2

    God.. finally only 5 hour remaining.. waiting is hard at least we had PLENNNNTY OF HISTORY OF BATTLETECH in queue. right sven?

  • @kodiak_qp614
    @kodiak_qp614 9 месяцев назад +2

    I been a BT fan all the way back when the cartoon 1st came out. I am really happy to see how it all begins. Reading it without a map kinda does not show the whole picture. Your videos do an excellent job of showing it.
    Keep up the good job.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад

      Thank you, I will. I'd definitely does help you picture events more clearly when you see them unfold on a map. It also lets me see who was referencing a map when they wrote their sourcebooks, and who wasn't, lol.

    • @kodiak_qp614
      @kodiak_qp614 8 месяцев назад

      @@SvenVanDerPlank there lore that makes no sense on the map or just wrong locations?

  • @thomasrose4523
    @thomasrose4523 9 месяцев назад +2

    A great day made even better with another BattleTech lore video! I finally got my PS5 after 2 years of life getting in the way, so watching this while it's setting up is a major win. Hope you're doing well today!

  • @georgezwick3717
    @georgezwick3717 9 месяцев назад +2

    Damn. I had head of the massacre and knew Kurita was involved but DAMN.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад

      Their proudest moment. Goddamn Kuritans.

  • @rudah90
    @rudah90 9 месяцев назад +3

    I watched this vid series many time. very good for using time in business trip. like typical netflix documenary.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад

      Thank you, I'm glad you've been enjoying them. Hopefully they're a welcome distraction from work.

  • @Deridus
    @Deridus 9 месяцев назад +3

    More deep lore! I need MORE!

  • @charlesballiet7074
    @charlesballiet7074 9 месяцев назад +2

    14:09 the fighting Urukhai with the white hand is pretty on the nose lol

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +1

      That unit and insignia originates in a 1988 sourcebook. Obviously LotR was a very widely known series of books, especially among the kind of nerd who plays tabletop games, but I don't think it stood out nearly as much back then as it does now in the 21st century.

  • @thomasc.3832
    @thomasc.3832 9 месяцев назад

    Another great video! Thanks for such an in-depth look

  • @tomecat
    @tomecat 9 месяцев назад

    Well done. Always good to get home and unwind to some good lore. Good stuff as always.

  • @clarkreamer4560
    @clarkreamer4560 9 месяцев назад +1

    I can't believe I missed the premier.
    This is such a powerful episode. Incredible work.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +1

      No worries, thanks for the support, and for the title to the video.

    • @clarkreamer4560
      @clarkreamer4560 9 месяцев назад

      @@SvenVanDerPlank You continue to do the most unique work. It really feels like historical documentary except it is from future that never happened.

  • @RenBR
    @RenBR 9 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome video, please keep up the good work :D

  • @Archangelm127
    @Archangelm127 9 месяцев назад +1

    I don't actually know this era of the story, so this is particularly interesting to hear. If there's any justice, Jinjiro will be assassinated by his own military for honor's sake. Knowing Battletech, I'm expecting Jinjiro to live to a ripe old age and die peacefully in his sleep.😕

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +2

      Well not to spoil anything, but it sounds like you know BattleTech history pretty well, lol 😢

  • @AGS363
    @AGS363 9 месяцев назад +1

    I hope you all now see that the course of action we took over Galedon was deserved and righteous, quiaff?
    - Clan Snow Raven

  • @jefferynelson
    @jefferynelson 9 месяцев назад

    thanks to content creator for the work you put into the channel, your audience appreciates you sir

  • @Nerd_Rage255
    @Nerd_Rage255 9 месяцев назад

    Great work. Really love it.

  • @bruh-wy2ih
    @bruh-wy2ih 8 месяцев назад

    More fantastic stuff!!!

  • @ebla83
    @ebla83 9 месяцев назад

    Very well done Sven.

  • @dashiellgillingham4579
    @dashiellgillingham4579 9 месяцев назад

    Always good to have a Saturday show

  • @greysonjones5429
    @greysonjones5429 9 месяцев назад

    Another amazing video... Gosh dang does Kurita go over the edge.

  • @EricDKaufman
    @EricDKaufman 9 месяцев назад +1

    Grind through this... because it will be WELL worth it when you get to Tukkayid in 300 years

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +1

      Can't tell if you're making a joke about how long it's taking me to get through the timeline, lol. One day I'll reach the Clan Invasion.

  • @matthewneuendorf5763
    @matthewneuendorf5763 9 месяцев назад +4

    It's interesting how different dispassionate slaughter and personalized massacres are from an instinctive moral perspective. It's horrible to wipe cities or planets off the map, but such is war. You can write it off as lamentable collateral damage. It's unforgivable to industrialize the slaughter of civilians with the actual goal being the utter annihilation of an entire population, one victim at a time. It's why the firebombing of Dresden and the nuclear destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki are so much less offensive than the death camps of Germany. It's why the mass slaughter of tens or even hundreds of millions under communism doesn't get the same visceral reaction as the targeted murders of the Holocaust, the Greek/Armenian Genocides, and other ethnic cleansings and genocidal campaigns even though the absolute number of victims pales in comparison. There's something especially heinous in the deliberate and personal killing of innocents as a goal in and of itself rather than as an incidental by-product of a socio-economic policy or strategy of war.

    • @blackspade1
      @blackspade1 9 месяцев назад

      Apparently the industrial slaughter of Native Americans hardly makes a blip, as the perps still market and think of themselves as the good guys....

  • @MrFleem
    @MrFleem 9 месяцев назад +4

    "Davion squeezes the Kuritan bulge."

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +3

      Just for the record, the sourcebook said that. Repeatedly. It wasn't me who chose that phrasing.

  • @verysilentmouse
    @verysilentmouse 9 месяцев назад +3

    Love your work

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you, glad to hear it.

    • @verysilentmouse
      @verysilentmouse 9 месяцев назад +1

      I was crying through the kentares narration

  • @theodoremccarthy4438
    @theodoremccarthy4438 9 месяцев назад

    Great stuff

  • @DzinkyDzink
    @DzinkyDzink 9 месяцев назад +2

    So by your account the Capellan Confederation is a faction that not became a primary victim of unprovoked agression on par with the Hegemony but also commited the least amount of war crimes.

    • @ssjjshawn
      @ssjjshawn 9 месяцев назад +3

      Welcome to the history of Battletech.
      Suprisingly House Liao is actually the least aggressive Great House, and the least likely to betray their employees with occasional exceptions. The Exceptions become infamous.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +2

      The Capellans had their fair share of warcrimes. None that I can think of reached the multi-million mark though, so perhaps less so than the others. But they definitely deployed WMDs against both Davion and Marik (don't know about Kurita and there's no known attacks on Steiner) and threatened several Terran Hegemony worlds with Exterminatus unless they swore fealty.

    • @DzinkyDzink
      @DzinkyDzink 9 месяцев назад

      @@SvenVanDerPlank So they only used WMD against adversaries and not civilian populations? In a defensive stance I might add.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад

      No, not really. In fact the largest task force the Capellans would assemble during the war was part of the infamous "Devlin Solution" and existed explicitly for exterminating Marik cities.
      Their campaign against the Davions was decidedly more reserved, but that was largely because of one guy, who will be one of the focus points in the next episode. But the Chesterton Liberation Battalion had already set off a tactical nuke on Demeter back in 2760, so they're not really any better than anyone else.

    • @DzinkyDzink
      @DzinkyDzink 9 месяцев назад

      @@SvenVanDerPlank wrong answer, comrade. I think you should spend some time in a rehabilitation camp to help you come to your semses.

  • @takumicrary4396
    @takumicrary4396 9 месяцев назад

    Loving the vids

  • @stephenrickman4300
    @stephenrickman4300 9 месяцев назад +1

    I have put my money where my mouth is. I am a patron for you. Keep up the great work. Remember kentares!

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you very much for supporting me on Patreon. I hope you continue to enjoy the videos as I put them out.

  • @ShagShaggio
    @ShagShaggio 9 месяцев назад

    Cheers!

  • @hemidas
    @hemidas 9 месяцев назад +1

    14:10 Well, someone is a LOTR fan.

  • @Fanatic808
    @Fanatic808 9 месяцев назад +2

    Remember folks nothing happened on Kentares IV

  • @AsdrubalBarka
    @AsdrubalBarka 9 месяцев назад +2

    I guess kuritans don't like to talk about Kentares.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +2

      Why, what happened on Kentares? Nothing I've heard of.

  • @jmullner76
    @jmullner76 9 месяцев назад +3

    There don't seem to be any "good" guys around, but the Kuritans are certainly on the bad spectrum.

  • @samanthamccormick1436
    @samanthamccormick1436 9 месяцев назад +2

    Remember Kentares!

  • @Gopher286
    @Gopher286 9 месяцев назад

    The moment we’ve all been waiting for…

  • @Veretax
    @Veretax 9 месяцев назад

    it might be useful in the descriptions to list the time frames these cover.

  • @sebastiang.5032
    @sebastiang.5032 8 месяцев назад

    Wow, that was dark.

  • @robertbyerlay5040
    @robertbyerlay5040 9 месяцев назад

    I wonder if any one thought to offer the sniper to the kuritans.
    No further mention of that person.

  • @fredlandry6170
    @fredlandry6170 9 месяцев назад +4

    The great tragedy is about to happen on Kentares.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +4

      One of the greatest japes of our time.

    • @lorefox201
      @lorefox201 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@SvenVanDerPlank not quite a bit of trolling, nor a smidge of trolling
      a CERTAIN AMOUNT of trolling

  • @kierdalemodels
    @kierdalemodels 4 месяца назад

    This is excellent stuff. There is a fantastic picture of a Von Rohrs/Hebi at 17:17, may I ask the source? It’s one of my favourite mechs.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  4 месяца назад +1

      It's from the Kurita Handbook. I didn't recognise the 'Mech so I thought it was a much later design.

    • @kierdalemodels
      @kierdalemodels 4 месяца назад

      ⁠@@SvenVanDerPlankThe Kurita Handbook? Thanks for the info👍

  • @wandilismus8726
    @wandilismus8726 9 месяцев назад

    Remember Kentares!!

  • @fcjjvfikvfhibvdyij8513
    @fcjjvfikvfhibvdyij8513 9 месяцев назад

    When you gonna play desert global storm I love how you play the game ❤

  • @oriffel
    @oriffel 9 месяцев назад

    brutal

  • @ryank5424
    @ryank5424 9 месяцев назад +1

    Goddamn do they need a version of the hague or something.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +1

      Well there was this thing called the Ares Conventions but it was hella inconvenient.

  • @chrisduwe4130
    @chrisduwe4130 9 месяцев назад +1

    In what book is it written that a Sargent in the Davion military assassinated Minoru Kurita? I have read the original house Kurita book multiple times and never came across that information?

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +2

      It's in the original Davion Housebook from 1988. Think it might also have been in the First Succession War sourcebook.

    • @chrisduwe4130
      @chrisduwe4130 9 месяцев назад

      @SvenVanDerPlank I don't have the Davion hand book but I do have the first succession war book. I will go over it

  • @Dracobyte
    @Dracobyte 3 месяца назад

    And the War Crimes continue!

  • @Kingofdragons117
    @Kingofdragons117 9 месяцев назад +1

    I wonder if you will be going over what happened on Sendai after Kentares.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад

      Yes, the next episode covers (among other things) the response to the Kentares Massacre, including the Eridani Light Horse's decision to depart the Combine.

    • @TheR00k
      @TheR00k 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@SvenVanDerPlankWhy would they sign up with the Dragon in the first place eludes me. All they wanted was to protect the Rasalhague people since the SLDF left them to die in the Succession Wars.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад

      They never did. The 3rdRCT was based on the Combine since before the Star League Civil War. After the High Council sent everyone home at the conclusion of the conflict, they returned to their base on Trondheim. The DC allowed them to remain on the condition that they help repel any "pirate" activity in the region. They continually rejected offers by the DC to hire on as mercenaries.

    • @TheR00k
      @TheR00k 9 месяцев назад

      @@SvenVanDerPlank I thought the whole Sendai situation started when ELH broke the employment contract due to the Kentares massacre, and the planetary governor took their families hostage to make them stay.
      And this kicked off a lot of mercs leaving Kurita since now they knew Kurita would kill every last one of them rather than have them potentially work for their rivals.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад

      Not quite. I'll talk about it in the next video. The governor did take their families hostage but there was no contract. Just a case of "if I can't have you, no one can."

  • @walkwithoutrhythm9858
    @walkwithoutrhythm9858 7 месяцев назад

    Stuff like the Kentares Massacre is why I never miss a chance to shit on the Combine. I prefer even the Capellans to the Combine, and i utterly hate the Capellans.

  • @Cheetahmk2
    @Cheetahmk2 9 месяцев назад

    Remember Kentares

  • @nicm894
    @nicm894 9 месяцев назад +2

    I prefer Battletech universe to WH40k it much more grounded but stil grim! Kerensky was wrong to leave

    • @robgraham5320
      @robgraham5320 9 месяцев назад +1

      He should have taken the throne himself, as the last Regent of the Star League, he was probably the most suitable candidate for position, and likely the one least contestable.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +1

      "Least contestable" - contested by literally every single other House Lord, and probably the periphery ones too, not to mention all the people in the Hegemony who blamed him for bringing war to their worlds. The Star League was doomed. It was either fight and die to build something new amongst the ruins of the Hegemony, or skedaddle out to the deep unknown.

  • @lexmats6709
    @lexmats6709 9 месяцев назад

    This makes it really hard to play through the Dragons Gambit expansion of MW5.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +2

      Well, different times and all that. Not many modern-day states are too proud of what they were up to in the 18th century.

  • @lorefox201
    @lorefox201 9 месяцев назад +1

    ...the oNe thing that i know for real
    THERE WILL BE BLOOD
    SHED
    THE MAN IN THE MIRROR NODS HIS HEAD

  • @moistjohn
    @moistjohn 9 месяцев назад

    How one FWL leader and his addiction to steroids expanded his territory by dozens of systems

  • @alexwatts1064
    @alexwatts1064 9 месяцев назад +1

    fighting Urukhai
    When did House Davion abandon reason for madness?

    • @afitz34
      @afitz34 9 месяцев назад

      That question could be pretty much aimed at everyone at this point in the lore. lol

    • @robgraham5320
      @robgraham5320 9 месяцев назад +1

      When the writers felt it needed to be done. (Caleb Davion, 3099-3144)

  • @jotarofatso5743
    @jotarofatso5743 9 месяцев назад +6

    Kentares was a self-defence situation.

  • @nono2645
    @nono2645 9 месяцев назад +1

    I've said it before and i'll keep saying it the dragon is the poison in the heart of the inner sphere

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +1

      Typical fedrat. The Dragon is your salvation. Bow before it.

    • @nono2645
      @nono2645 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@SvenVanDerPlank I am a lyran loyalist and Patriot good ser

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +1

      Urgh! Elsies are even worse. Steiner bootlicker and money-grubber.

  • @jfangm
    @jfangm 7 месяцев назад

    There are no good guys in Battletech, only guys who are less worse.

  • @Hasteaguy
    @Hasteaguy 9 месяцев назад

    REMEMBER KENTARES!

  • @Makaan
    @Makaan 9 месяцев назад +2

    I think the Kentares Massacre is a bit like that Stalin commentary: "a single death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic”
    It certainly was a good propaganda/morale boost for Davion.
    Millions died on Kentares executed yea, it is horrible... but billions died on the rest of the Inner Sphere by the hands of the other militaries and their mass destruction toys.
    Personally I find the second option a much more horrendous way to end things.
    Pretty much like the disasters in our real world.

    • @robgraham5320
      @robgraham5320 9 месяцев назад +1

      Dying in the cold black of a failing terraformed world, or nuclear winter brought to a more habitable one. I can picture a lone survivor, before succumbing to death's embrace staring up at stars and screaming; "God damn them all! God damn them all to Hell!"

  • @ThatSlowTypingGuy
    @ThatSlowTypingGuy 9 месяцев назад

    8:39 I've gotta know, what mech is this? There's not too many around with a center torso autocannon. Or as distinctive a head.

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад

      It's a Hermes (they are Hermeses? lol)
      www.sarna.net/wiki/Hermes_II

    • @ThatSlowTypingGuy
      @ThatSlowTypingGuy 9 месяцев назад

      @@SvenVanDerPlank Thanks!

  • @SulliMike23
    @SulliMike23 9 месяцев назад

    REMEMBER KENTARES!!!!!

  • @captainteutonica5474
    @captainteutonica5474 9 месяцев назад +1

    "Should have shot him in the other head." - Sargeant Latha Pischel

    • @TheR00k
      @TheR00k 9 месяцев назад +2

      He offed himself after finding out what happened on Kentares btw

    • @captainteutonica5474
      @captainteutonica5474 9 месяцев назад

      @@TheR00k ouch

    • @captainteutonica5474
      @captainteutonica5474 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@TheR00kfamous last words I guess.

    • @TheR00k
      @TheR00k 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@captainteutonica5474 funny how I first found out about this universe's funny mechs and I'm now discussing the ramifications of a fictional sniper that inadvertently caused a 400 mil genocide

    • @captainteutonica5474
      @captainteutonica5474 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheR00k I absolutely feel you.

  • @KillerOrca
    @KillerOrca 9 месяцев назад +2

    Speed, distance, technological advancements and reversals...
    Humanity stays the same. Its oldest curses permenant; war, greed, racism.

  • @billrich9722
    @billrich9722 9 месяцев назад

    Pretty fucking grim

  • @marsar1775
    @marsar1775 9 месяцев назад +2

    i shouldnt watch these while drinking
    "squeezed kuritas bulge"

    • @SvenVanDerPlank
      @SvenVanDerPlank  9 месяцев назад +1

      You found the idea strangely alluring?

    • @marsar1775
      @marsar1775 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@SvenVanDerPlank and incredibly amusing. a welcome break from the horrors of the war so far

  • @DaytonaRoadster
    @DaytonaRoadster 9 месяцев назад

    "...they had it coming"..