The History of Chinese Porcelain

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  • Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
  • The history of Chinese porcelain, a story of innovation, trade, war, and forgery. We will explore the origins of porcelain in the 10th century, the explosion in trade between Europe and China of porcelain from the 17th century, and how European manufacturers began imitating Chinese porcelain from the late 18th century. To bring the story to life we will analyse in detail an antique collection of Chinese, British and Dutch porcelain, as well as a plethora of antique maps, paintings and photographs.
    00:00 Intro
    2:42 The manufacture of porcelain in China
    8:26 Western nations begin importing Chinese porcelain
    12:58 Dutch monopoly on the porcelain trade
    17:31 Germany begins producing Chinese imitation porcelain
    19:02 The British capture the market and copy Chinese porcelain
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Комментарии • 126

  • @dragonseye6403
    @dragonseye6403 3 года назад +24

    I love the materials you used, really brings the story to life!

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  3 года назад +2

      Your feedback is much appreciated!

  • @EsChineseClass
    @EsChineseClass 3 года назад +24

    Your video is really amazing. I can feel you really love Chinese culture. Thank you for sharing these stories!

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  3 года назад +6

      Thank you, I do have a strong interest in Chinese history and culture, and do my best to share it with others.

  • @199786415
    @199786415 День назад

    Really glad that I bumped into this video! Such an informative video with clear and logical historical timeline and explanation.

  • @yanyaporcelaininchina88
    @yanyaporcelaininchina88 2 года назад +6

    Blue and white porcelain is an eternal classic, and Chinese porcelain has also directly set off the trend of European aristocrats drinking tea. In the 17th century, during the reign of Emperor Kangxi of the Qing Dynasty in China, a missionary brought the secrets of porcelain making back to Europe, and since then European porcelain craftsmanship has undergone tremendous improvement.

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  2 года назад +3

      This is a pretty good summary of the introduction of porcelain from China into Europe. I tried to cover this development in detail in the documentary - do you think that I did the story justice?

  • @blueboxjuggler
    @blueboxjuggler 3 года назад +9

    Great channel, very glad I came across this video, super thorough and interesting, please keep uploading!

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  3 года назад +1

      Thank you for the support! I have plenty of interesting videos planned, so stay tuned!

  • @marinaprati7152
    @marinaprati7152 Год назад +4

    This is such a great video for those of us who love chinese porcelain. thank you

  • @TheScreamingFrog916
    @TheScreamingFrog916 Год назад +3

    I really enjoy this series of videos.

  • @numuves
    @numuves 3 года назад +9

    Awesome vid

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for the positive feedback, and welcome to my Channel!

  • @carloscecilio7725
    @carloscecilio7725 Год назад +2

    Thank you for your excellent presentation and gorgeous illustrations. Hartelijk dank !

  • @Gammaray7
    @Gammaray7 Год назад +4

    I just came across this video, and I really enjoy it. It’s very interesting and informational. Keep up the good work!

  • @journeysintohistoryandnatu7350
    @journeysintohistoryandnatu7350 3 года назад +8

    Great introduction to porcelain!

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  3 года назад +1

      I'm glad that you liked it!

  • @BygoneChina
    @BygoneChina  3 года назад +13

    Thanks for watching! Please remember to like and subscribe, and let me know what you liked and didn't in the comments!

  • @lorenstiteler305
    @lorenstiteler305 Год назад +4

    Wonderfully well done

  • @johnralphdedios9481
    @johnralphdedios9481 Год назад +3

    Great delivery of ideas! I learned a lot!

  • @jessienielsen8605
    @jessienielsen8605 4 месяца назад +1

    Fantastic presentation. I learned so much.

  • @juliaf6762
    @juliaf6762 Год назад +6

    Very nice documentary. It was fascinating and well explained. What are your sources, and what books/bibliography would you recommend? thx!

  • @samknowles833
    @samknowles833 3 года назад +12

    Next you should do a video on the history of tea

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for your feedback, I definitely plan on doing a video on that topic in the future!

  • @elenafernandez3247
    @elenafernandez3247 3 года назад +5

    Great video, thank you for sharing! 👏

  • @Tiberiotertio
    @Tiberiotertio Год назад +4

    Have seen your video now, very nicely made and informative! I have the pleasure of having two pieces that are from around the Kraak-ware times. Both pieces recovered from ship wrecks and three pieces of Delft copies.

  • @mariiie.B
    @mariiie.B 3 года назад +6

    I love this video very much !!!

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  3 года назад +1

      I am so glad that you enjoyed it, I hope that you also found it educational.

  • @elainelee2491
    @elainelee2491 Год назад +2

    Thanks for making this video, it's very informative.

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  Год назад +2

      You're welcome! I'm happy that it helped you learn more about the topic!

  • @mariatrotter6889
    @mariatrotter6889 11 месяцев назад +1

    Well done. Extremely infomative...love it.

  • @knoore
    @knoore 4 месяца назад +1

    This is beautiful! Love this!

  • @rabbitazteca23
    @rabbitazteca23 Год назад +1

    I just love your documentaries!

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  Год назад

      Thank you, I am really happy that you enjoy them!

  • @robertschlesinger1342
    @robertschlesinger1342 Год назад +3

    Very interesting, informative and worthwhile video.

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  Год назад

      Thanks Robert, glad you enjoyed it!

  • @gwen5316
    @gwen5316 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks! This was very useful! ❤

  • @jenhgorman7506
    @jenhgorman7506 Год назад +2

    This is much better than my college Chinese art history class. Keep up the great work. So interesting to see the cultural influences between the east and west.

  • @ingerchesterbrowne7713
    @ingerchesterbrowne7713 2 месяца назад +1

    Very interesting

  • @hornomat6099
    @hornomat6099 3 года назад +4

    many thanks

  • @marianelamunoz1670
    @marianelamunoz1670 3 года назад +5

    Felicitaciones por su relato.Extraordinaria narración.

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  3 года назад +1

      Muchas gracias, su apoyo es muy apreciado. Espero que también disfrutes de mis otros videos.

  • @davidjenson7773
    @davidjenson7773 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for this podcast you are so informed.

  • @danielsu4308
    @danielsu4308 2 года назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @InfernoXV
    @InfernoXV 2 года назад +18

    that’s a very odd pronunciation of the word ‘porcelain’…

  • @echao1798
    @echao1798 3 года назад +5

    Good video with informative & clear script. However, the speech is somewhat soporific & slow. Normal speech with subtitles could be a better alternative.

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  3 года назад

      Thanks for your feedback, I will make sure to correct the speech in my future videos.

  • @graemewatson2296
    @graemewatson2296 Год назад +3

    Thank you. I credit my interest in Chinese culture to my grandmother's Willow Pattern plates. I lived in Peking in '79 - '90, then Hong Kong and now in Taiwan where the real Chinese culture is being maintained. As a Linguistics grad with Chinese as my main foreign language, I just have to ask where you got the pronunciation of 清朝 as Ting Dynasty? Also I see a few others have mentioned your pronunciation of porcelain! My ears are in pain from hearing your particular sounding of the word.... about 2,500 times. A pity that it is the key word in your whole monologue. Anyway, I am genuinely interested to find out your language background. Be great if you could read this and reply.

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  Год назад +1

      Hi Graeme, Thanks for sharing your story. It must have been fascinating living in mainland China between 1979 and 1990 - it's changed so much since then. Did you collect any photographs during your time there?
      Regarding 清朝, it obviously should be pronounced "Qing Chao", although my pronunciation is slightly off so it sounds closer to "Ting Chao". The "Qi" enunciation is especially challenging for non-native speakers, and I hadn't spoken Mandarin for a while when I made the video, so it was not very accurate. The "Porcelain" used in the video is just my pronunciation.
      By the way, my slow (relatively) clear pronunciation throughout my videos is intended to make the content easier for non-native speakers to understand. A lot of RUclipsrs speak very fast, which can be difficult for those unfamiliar with the language to discern the words. Having learnt a foreign language myself, I can appreciate that rapid dialogue can be hard for listeners to catch. Therefore, I try to make the content as accessible as possible by delivering in an artificially slow style. I am considering changing this soon though (and just speak standard pace), as I have received considerable negative feedback on this aspect. What do you think?

  • @ytlinso
    @ytlinso 3 года назад +6

    Why do you say porcele-an?

  • @heartSLB
    @heartSLB Год назад +6

    Fantastic video, I learned a lot. Interesting to see how sadly the British made porcelain common. Nowadays people don’t give it value anymore to what was once apparently a luxury

    • @indus7841
      @indus7841 Год назад

      How is it sad that something that was once a luxury exclusive to the ultrarich (ultra ultra rich) is now something that can be enjoyed by everyone?

  • @carpy1252
    @carpy1252 2 года назад +3

    I don't even think that Chinese Willow could be attributed to the British dude after seeing the similarities.

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  2 года назад +1

      I think most people would agree with you, considering that they are basically the same plate.

  • @evanpenn1
    @evanpenn1 Год назад +2

    I am pretty sure "porcelain" has three syllables 😄

  • @grandmabente123
    @grandmabente123 Год назад +2

    Absolutely wonderful. Thank you. I have used your video to illustrate ''What China was so ahead''... on my channel Grandma Bente's New Adventures...

  • @robigalia
    @robigalia 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great video! However, your dating of that Spode cup and saucer is off by 100 years. Spode went out of business in 1833, and was acquired by Copeland. The McKinley Tariff Act in the USA required the name of the country, hence the adoption of "England." Your cup and saucer were made after 1890. The mark on the bottom of your cup was used from 1906 and later.

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  8 месяцев назад

      Fascinating! Thank you so much for highlighting this, you have provided some much needed additional clarity around the origins of this porcelain set.

  • @makaluma3672
    @makaluma3672 Год назад +2

    Just want to add, a Jesuit missionary studied porcelain manufacture in China in secret and sent it to Europe by sea.

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  Год назад +1

      Very true, and then other European porcelain designers copied his work in turn!

  • @robert-skibelo
    @robert-skibelo 7 месяцев назад

    Quite good content, though short on technical detail about the chemical composition of porcelain and the techniques for working it. The constant music droning in the background was a bad idea. It adds nothing and is just an annoying distraction (at least for people who have an ear for music).

  • @russellseitz
    @russellseitz 2 года назад +2

    What about the weathered feldspar?
    Chemical illiteracy disqualifes the speaker.

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  2 года назад +2

      Thanks for leaving a comment, it's always great to receive some constructive criticism.
      This video focused primarily on the history of porcelain production, specifically the development of porcelain in China, the trade of porcelain between the east and west, and how European producers imitated Chinese designs. I decided to provide only a simplified overview of the porcelain manufacture process in order to give viewers a basic understanding of the core elements in it's creation, and to highlight the production challenges faced in the different regions of the world. If I were to make a more in-depth documentary focusing on the manufacturing process in more detail, I would make sure to include the role of Feldspar in the manufacture of porcelain.
      Aside from this issue, did you enjoy the rest of the documentary?

  • @greggmaflin6019
    @greggmaflin6019 3 года назад +5

    Its great except for the way you say Porcelain as Porcelian ? Which is very odd

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  3 года назад

      Hi Gregg, thanks for the comment. You are not alone in thinking the pronunciation of Porcelain is a little different (someone else also mentioned this), but it's just how I pronounce the word - hopefully it doesn't detract from your enjoyment of the video!

    • @SHERMA.
      @SHERMA. 2 года назад +7

      he is pronouncing it wrong
      its as simple as that

  • @MrManny075
    @MrManny075 2 года назад +1

    From a BBC docomentary on youtube TREASUREAS OF CHINESE PORCELAIN PART 1 TO 4

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  2 года назад

      Did that BBC documentary direct you to my video on Porcelain? You must have a strong interest in Chinese porcelain if you watched both. What is your favourite style of Chinese porcelain?

  • @Hannari-xt6nr
    @Hannari-xt6nr 15 дней назад +1

    You are half Asian with blue eyes ! Boy are you lucky !

  • @bananarepublic7204
    @bananarepublic7204 3 года назад +4

    Do you own all that porcelain?

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  3 года назад +4

      The British and Dutch porcelain has been in the family for several generations, and the Chinese Porcelain I recently bought at an auction.

  • @mindorientalceramicarts1827
    @mindorientalceramicarts1827 2 года назад +2

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  • @slevinchannel7589
    @slevinchannel7589 8 месяцев назад +1

    I like Isekai and Time-Travel so i wonder
    oddly-specific this: Whats the best production-method for porcellan
    that is do-able if you get transported with modern knowledge into ancient Time??

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  8 месяцев назад

      Very interesting question, although I don't think that I am qualified to answer this question - I report what occurred in the past, but don't have an in-depth understanding of the porcelain production process.

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 8 месяцев назад

      @@BygoneChina Anyhting helps.
      Everyhting that could be summarized under "Knowledge ancient people WISHED they knew" or "Knowledge YOU would wish you have if you suddenly time-travelled!"

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 8 месяцев назад

      @@BygoneChina Well?

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 7 месяцев назад

      @@BygoneChina Aaaandddd?

  • @mikewilliams4438
    @mikewilliams4438 Год назад

    Very interesting, although it seems I've been pronouncing porcelain the wrong way.

  • @andremaltais2291
    @andremaltais2291 Год назад +3

    It was great except for the way you say Porcelain as Porcelian, sorry, but it was too distracting, I could only get halfway through the video. My misophonia got the best of me.

  • @user-dt9tk3zr8q
    @user-dt9tk3zr8q Год назад +1

    the background music is very noisy

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  Год назад

      Thanks for the feedback, others have also felt the same way.

  • @suesmith9665
    @suesmith9665 7 месяцев назад

    I feel the pain....

  • @tlee3838
    @tlee3838 2 года назад +1

    As the world turns.

  • @frikandelkroket9335
    @frikandelkroket9335 Год назад

    The Dutch helped the Manchus against the Ming! Now I am really pissed.

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  Год назад +1

      A standalone video focusing just on this episode in Chinese history would be very interesting actually.

  • @gostaknochenhauer3978
    @gostaknochenhauer3978 Год назад +1

    I wanted to see this video, but the horrible, loud, and unneccessary music overlay makes it impossible

    • @samsun01
      @samsun01 Год назад

      like your Mom, son?

  • @stephenholmes5362
    @stephenholmes5362 Год назад

    Great video & I love how you pronounce “porcelain”. What is your backround?

  • @derekpennington8371
    @derekpennington8371 Год назад +2

    it is pronounced Por ce lain

  • @schiatzeschiatze5002
    @schiatzeschiatze5002 11 месяцев назад +2

    I am so enchanted by your channel. What beautiful historical content. Keep it up!

  • @sawahtb
    @sawahtb Год назад +1

    Drugs always sell, even tho they kill.

  • @theacefacejames
    @theacefacejames 2 года назад +4

    Why are you pronouncing Porcelain like you do?!?

  • @ReefingDude
    @ReefingDude 2 года назад +1

    sounds like a bias china boy

    • @BygoneChina
      @BygoneChina  2 года назад +5

      I try to remain as objective and unbiased as possible, although sometimes my passion for a particular topic might make me appear partial.

    • @ReefingDude
      @ReefingDude 2 года назад +2

      @@BygoneChina I honestly enjoyed the video and I did learn a lot from it. thank you for the video

    • @tlee3838
      @tlee3838 2 года назад

      Can't admit you guys copy from us. Haha!

  • @YotamGuttman
    @YotamGuttman Месяц назад

    ok lets talk about how you pronounce PORCELAIN a minute?

  • @totoys1573
    @totoys1573 25 дней назад

    the time when Chinese products are the ones being copied😂😂

  • @beseggg
    @beseggg 2 года назад +3

    oh my god the way you pronounce porcelain is atrocious 😭😭😭😭😭

  • @leallan69
    @leallan69 6 месяцев назад

    History demonstrates that European imitation began much earlier than in other regions.

  • @jonmartindeiii962
    @jonmartindeiii962 Год назад +2

    Times when British were the copycats

  • @oranje2974
    @oranje2974 Год назад

    talk normal

  • @triconcert
    @triconcert 2 года назад +5

    I thought I would look at the video for education. While it is informative, I was wondering why you began with English porcelain to show it was a copy of the Chinese and render your conclusion in psuedo-scientific comparisons. Your pace ... with ... all.... its...unnatural ...breaks....was .... a ...bit.....nauseating. Your extra syllable in pronouncing porcelain was quite odd and uncomfortable. Consider fixing these strange elements and re-posting. I am trying to be charitable here and hope my words are not too harsh. Thanks for the effort all the same.

  • @umnuaysaehau875
    @umnuaysaehau875 Год назад +1

    Porcelain is pronounced ˈpɔːr.səl.ɪn, not porcelian. Qing is pronounced ching, not king. Otherwise, a great documentary.