Great Video John. Thank you! I suggest you put the zip tie where your for guard rubs. After the circlip is removed, the zip tie will become the contact point. Otherwise, it will be susceptible to a tear from the fork guard rubbing on the sealsavers. Thatd be my only reccomendation. Otherwise, looks great!!
Thank you for the advice. I really appreciate it. I was looking at that, and then decided to give a few miles to see if it really rubbed or just sort of rubbed. LOL.
@@JohnTYoung Theres a pretty good chance they will rub. We recommend that the circlip is removed and the zip tie goes in place of it. All that circlip is for is for the fork guard to rub on. So, the zip tie will replace that and there should be no issues!
I've used such neoprene savers on my trials motorcycles and my mountain bikes, and they keep a lot of dirt out of the internals and oil of the forks. I had a good comparison between mountain bikes with and without them, as my son didn't use them, not cool enough! :-), and the difference is very obvious as his oil was very dirty and mine much less.
Water with a inevitable build up of dirt/sand creates a grinding paste which causes way more damage then a blown seal. Fork seals a cheap and easy to replace. Fork leg re-chroming will cost way more.
The material we use will dry quickly and does not soak up water causing rust on the chrome. in the 20 years we have been in business, there has been 0 complaints of rust. Great question though, hope that helps.
Good video. Do you have any plans to do a valve check/possible reshim upload any time soon? Pretty sure it would be the first one on RUclips specifically for our 450L. It would probably get tons of views. I enjoy your channel. Thank you.
I think it's the same as on the 450R as they share the same engine: ruclips.net/video/6l3xtLtddrQ/видео.html As said in the video, always refer to the manual of your own bike for the correct specs.
do you remove them everytime you wash/clean the bike? Imagine a small stone or something getting stuck in there when you wash the bike.....great way to ruin the coating. I used these maby 10 years ago (similar brand). The velcro gave up after a times removing them. Never used after that. TODAY I DO THE FEELER GUAGE TRICK on both the seals and the dust seal. I use about 0.15 mm feeler guage for that. Usually fix a leaking seal.
I have been using the shorter version of the SealSavers. I’d be interested to hear how you feel about any possible interference with the fork travel using the long ones.
Loving all this 450L content. You should let us know at the end of each video how long it would take to do each mod with out having to mess with a camera. Keep it up! Very enjoyable to watch. Ps I don’t even own one of these bikes, Yet ;).
Soooooooo much faster. But by videoing I really have little idea how long it takes because I almost always video them. But I'll work on it. Maybe a stop watch.
@@JohnTYoung I was just about to say the exact same thing, not about why you're making videos, because they're great, but about the alignment. It's super important. You gotta make sure that axle isn't binding. You're FAR better at this stuff than I am, which is why I found it odd you left out that important detail. Other than that, I look forward to your upcoming valve check vid. You're doing the lords work sir. :)
I use Seal Savers on all my bikes, but when I installed them on the 450L there was a LOT of friction with the protectors just trying to bounce the forks up and down in the shop. Took them off. I would be interested in how they are working for you after riding a bit. Looks like we need a bit more clearance between fork uppers and the factory guards.
If you put the zip tie in place where the fork guard and sealsavers come into contact, the fork guard will rub on the zip tie and will prevent the sealsavers from tearing.
Super important and total failure on my part - align your forks and axle before riding away into the sunset. Lyndon Poskit has a great tire change video. Go to 26:10 to see how to align your forks and front axle. - ruclips.net/video/r7mBa7-5OIg/видео.html 26:10
If you have a good plan to keep up on the maintenance and aren't afraid of dirt bike ergonomics then yes. Fat seat, fat tank, and a Honda dealer (or access to an oil change) every 600 to 1000 miles and you're golden. Is it ideal, probably not, but never let that stop you.
@@JohnTYoung I figured you did. I just thought it might be a good reminder for someone. It always helps me when people add details like that cuz I learn the little stuff. You're getting popular cuz people like your humble approach, I'm guessing. Just keep doing what you're doing!
Yes they do. Because the guards extend below the flare of the forks where the seal sits it's very hard to keep it away from rubbing the seal. I haven't figured how how to fix that yet.
@@JohnTYoung Two questions: How much off-road use do you get out of the seal savers before their destroyed? Do you think stand-offs for the fork guard mounts can be made to work?
Those girly leg warmers are known to cause the forks to retain heat which causes the fork oil to boil which in turn causes the forks to explode into bits of shrapnel. Many riders have been hurt or worse. Ok, I lied. Your bike does look cuter though.
Great Video John. Thank you! I suggest you put the zip tie where your for guard rubs. After the circlip is removed, the zip tie will become the contact point. Otherwise, it will be susceptible to a tear from the fork guard rubbing on the sealsavers. Thatd be my only reccomendation. Otherwise, looks great!!
Thank you for the advice. I really appreciate it. I was looking at that, and then decided to give a few miles to see if it really rubbed or just sort of rubbed. LOL.
@@JohnTYoung Theres a pretty good chance they will rub. We recommend that the circlip is removed and the zip tie goes in place of it. All that circlip is for is for the fork guard to rub on. So, the zip tie will replace that and there should be no issues!
The entire time I was thinking, I wish I could see them in action. And there it was. Props.
Thank you!
I've used such neoprene savers on my trials motorcycles and my mountain bikes, and they keep a lot of dirt out of the internals and oil of the forks. I had a good comparison between mountain bikes with and without them, as my son didn't use them, not cool enough! :-), and the difference is very obvious as his oil was very dirty and mine much less.
I wonder if holding water in the neoprene up againt the chromed fork tube will create rust. Keen to see updates when you change a tyre ot break pads.
I was a little worried, and I'll keep checking it, but the from what I've heard rust is not an issue.
Water with a inevitable build up of dirt/sand creates a grinding paste which causes way more damage then a blown seal. Fork seals a cheap and easy to replace. Fork leg re-chroming will cost way more.
The material we use will dry quickly and does not soak up water causing rust on the chrome. in the 20 years we have been in business, there has been 0 complaints of rust. Great question though, hope that helps.
Good video. Do you have any plans to do a valve check/possible reshim upload any time soon? Pretty sure it would be the first one on RUclips specifically for our 450L. It would probably get tons of views. I enjoy your channel. Thank you.
I am going to make one. I just got a snake camera to get some good views of it. Thanks for the suggestion ! Keep them coming.
I think it's the same as on the 450R as they share the same engine: ruclips.net/video/6l3xtLtddrQ/видео.html
As said in the video, always refer to the manual of your own bike for the correct specs.
I use shock sox on all my bikes, they just Velcro on in two minutes. Also if those grip real tight they may well adversely affect the fork movement.
These seemed to slide pretty easily. At least over the sliding side.
Try our Zip-On Style SealSavers.
do you remove them everytime you wash/clean the bike? Imagine a small stone or something getting stuck in there when you wash the bike.....great way to ruin the coating. I used these maby 10 years ago (similar brand). The velcro gave up after a times removing them. Never used after that. TODAY I DO THE FEELER GUAGE TRICK on both the seals and the dust seal. I use about 0.15 mm feeler guage for that. Usually fix a leaking seal.
This set of savers was destroyed, but when I had them I just rolled them back to look under the neoprene. There was never any dirt under it.
i was wondering the same thing. thanks for the question and the reply!
I have been using the shorter version of the SealSavers. I’d be interested to hear how you feel about any possible interference with the fork travel using the long ones.
They seem to squish pretty easily. I'll let you know after I bottom them out a few times. Shouldn't take long.
Loving all this 450L content. You should let us know at the end of each video how long it would take to do each mod with out having to mess with a camera. Keep it up! Very enjoyable to watch. Ps I don’t even own one of these bikes, Yet ;).
Soooooooo much faster. But by videoing I really have little idea how long it takes because I almost always video them. But I'll work on it. Maybe a stop watch.
John T. Young just a rough idea! An educated guess. I’m a mechanic so I’m a tech geek, never to much info! Cheers
Did I miss you aligning the front end? That’s an important step.
You did, and I've been called out on it. I'm really bad at making these videos. I don't know why anyone watches them.
@@JohnTYoung I was just about to say the exact same thing, not about why you're making videos, because they're great, but about the alignment. It's super important. You gotta make sure that axle isn't binding. You're FAR better at this stuff than I am, which is why I found it odd you left out that important detail. Other than that, I look forward to your upcoming valve check vid. You're doing the lords work sir. :)
I use Seal Savers on all my bikes, but when I installed them on the 450L there was a LOT of friction with the protectors just trying to bounce the forks up and down in the shop. Took them off. I would be interested in how they are working for you after riding a bit. Looks like we need a bit more clearance between fork uppers and the factory guards.
No miles on them yet but they seem to bounce just fine.
If you put the zip tie in place where the fork guard and sealsavers come into contact, the fork guard will rub on the zip tie and will prevent the sealsavers from tearing.
I've been wondering about adding a set of those on when I tear my forks apart for different springs. Hopefully they hold up
I hope so too! Thanks for watching
Any issues with them, we will make sure you are taken care of. We stand behind our product.
Super important and total failure on my part - align your forks and axle before riding away into the sunset. Lyndon Poskit has a great tire change video. Go to 26:10 to see how to align your forks and front axle. - ruclips.net/video/r7mBa7-5OIg/видео.html 26:10
I noticed in your later videos, the Seal Savers were not there. What was your reason for removing them?
They kept wearing thru and got to be a pain to replace.
Looks great
Thanks from a Australian
Thanks for watching!
Another great video sir!
I appreciate that
I didn't see you aline the forks before you tightened them down. Hopefully you did though.
I did, and you're right. I should have shown that WAY better. Sorry about that.
Mr. Young do you think the CRF450L is a good choice bike to take on the TransAMTrail?
If you have a good plan to keep up on the maintenance and aren't afraid of dirt bike ergonomics then yes. Fat seat, fat tank, and a Honda dealer (or access to an oil change) every 600 to 1000 miles and you're golden. Is it ideal, probably not, but never let that stop you.
Yet another good video!
Also, get a coat of grease on that axle ;)
I did. I'm just an ass at showing everything. I'm a work in progress! In 10 years I'll have this whole video you tube thing down.
@@JohnTYoung I figured you did.
I just thought it might be a good reminder for someone. It always helps me when people add details like that cuz I learn the little stuff.
You're getting popular cuz people like your humble approach, I'm guessing. Just keep doing what you're doing!
So do the fork guards damage the seal savers through use? What is the fix if there is one? Thank!
Yes they do. Because the guards extend below the flare of the forks where the seal sits it's very hard to keep it away from rubbing the seal. I haven't figured how how to fix that yet.
@@JohnTYoung Two questions: How much off-road use do you get out of the seal savers before their destroyed? Do you think stand-offs for the fork guard mounts can be made to work?
Those girly leg warmers are known to cause the forks to retain heat which causes the fork oil to boil which in turn causes the forks to explode into bits of shrapnel. Many riders have been hurt or worse.
Ok, I lied.
Your bike does look cuter though.
Leg warmers are back baby! Next are Laser Disks and 8Bit videos games.
I’m interested to see how they hold up.
Hi please let me know about this new screen setup.
Bajaworx screen mounted to a Adventure Spec nav tower. I didn't like the AS plastic wind screen. I'll have better pictures soon.
@@JohnTYoung this is what I thought.
What size are these? Trying to order the exact ones.
The long ones? I honestly don't recall. They are the type that don't have velcro though.
Have you tested them before?
I have not, but I have heard great things. So.... Thanks for watching.
John T. Young ❤️👍
Haven’t seen anything new in a while
You're right. Sorry about that. Family issues have me running from one end of the country to the other.
@@JohnTYoung it’s all good take care