Aztec Perspective on the Conquest of Mexico // 16th cent. Florentine Codex // Primary Source
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Here we have extracts from the Florentine Codex, a fascinating but controversial text compiled by Bernadino de Sahagun in collaboration with his Nahuatl students.
Broken Spears by Miguel Leon-Portilla
Copyright © 1962, 1990 by Miguel Leon-Portilla
Expanded and Updated Edition © 1992 by Miguel Leon-Portilla
Reprinted with permission from Beacon Press, Boston
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When people talk about the Spanish conquering the Aztecs they are missing the fact that all the tribes in the region united behind the Spanish, who were only there in small numbers, to bring them down. They hated the Aztecs for several reasons, not the least being continuously raided for human sacrifices.
Human sacrifices and as a food source.
They also leave out that the conversion to Catholicism wasn’t all that smooth either
I don't see how that changes anything considering the spanish turned their backs on the same tribes that helped them dismantle the aztec empire.
@@FirstLast-cw8ko What are you talking about, who told you that? were you there? The Spaniards never turned their back to the Indians that helped them. They had to deal with ailments as well, and struggled with survival.
@@FM-eg7bs Stupid take, as if genocide was of any collective benefit to the indigenous people in the America's. "Privileges" you mean the privilege to stay alive but still be a slave? That's a privilege to you?? 🤣🤣
Why isn't this a movie? Instead we get Fast and Furious 10.
Tyrone B No good guys vs bad guys.
There are no protagonists. Everyone's a villain.
hehehehe its a bittwersweet idea that movie makers are too bitch for history.
Either that movie would become an "imperialism shill" or the same old noble savage bs.
There are pretty good historically faithful movies you can watch about this. Unfortunately I forgot their names but you can google to find out.
"Are you the king?"
"Yes, I am"
"Ladies and gentlemen, we got him!"
"are you the king?"
"why... how could you tell?
What gave it away?"
How were they able to translate at this point?
@@blurglide Dona Marina the translator
@@blurglide The malinche.
Long story short: She was from nahuatl origin. She was, in her youth, given as a slave/servant to a mayan tribe. At the same time a spaniard shipwrecked in the coast of yucatan, assimilated, and learned mayan
Cortes, years later, found this girl and this guy. The spaniard would translate spanish to mayan, and la malinche would translate mayan to nahuatl.
@@blurglide It was literally luck, contrary to popular belief, the spaniard did not conquer mexico in a day or two. They struggled, a lot, and they were at brink of failure and death very often. It was a very fortunate stream of events that lead to the history we know today
We live in the cursed timeline
Cortes: We have come as friends, and you have nothing to fear.
Narrator: They had not come as friends, and the Aztec had much to fear.
The lowly tribes that the Aztec's conducted flow wars with and forced tribute from: Oh yes give them something to fear!
The war- like cannibals who sacrificed countless had much to fear, who knew they were conquered as soon as they seen the Spanish.
“The Gang Commits Genocide”
*theme music starts playing*
The guy sweeping up the place says,( but not too loudly),who gives a fuck ? Let em kill each other, the bastards, but be quick and neat about it, please, I've got enough work as it is.
@@jamesesparza6893 European diseases: Give you something to fear? Sure thing boss!
"We have come as friends, and you have nothing to fear."
The fat conductor laughed "You are wrong!"
*Always Sunny theme plays
"The Aztecs have everything to fear"
Then Cortez saw them sacraficing children...
@@yondermountainjamfan9410 and Cortez was not an anthropologist.
@@yondermountainjamfan9410 and decided to murder all men, women and children in response
It happens every time a city in under siege. It happened at Alesia, it happened at Caffa, Leningrad and Sarajevo.
The conquest of Mexico is like mythology come to life. One of the most fantastic, unbelievable stories ever told and yet all a part of the historical record.
"So uh...cool city you have here amig- HOLY SWEET BABY JESUS!" -Spaniard
"Awww thanks bud." - Aztec priest with beating heart in hand
"Jose, get the cannons."
lol, true. as much as liberals try to make the aztecs seem like noble peaceful people peacefully living their lives, you just can't get over the stone carvings of human sacrifices, lol.
@@itsMe_TheHerpes What stone carvings are you talking about? I want proof, location and all. Or perhaps you mean the drawings done by docile, obedient Aztecs who drew these human sacrifices into paper for European propaganda excuse for colonization and "Christian converts" for the Spanish throne? Or for these defeated Aztecs fear of being burned alive on a stake for "blasphemy" or killed by their guns along with family?
Lmao the Spanish conquistadors were trash murdering thugs with the morality lesser than that of even Pablo Escobar lmaoooo. They were not there to bring "salvation" trust me ahha
@@recieve.believe3344 well, i am sorry, but if you don't know about the stone carvings where they represented in detail how sacrifices were made, then... why am i even talking to you ? you lack basic historical knowledge, lol. you are nothing but a demented individual screaming your own version of things. like antifa does in their protests.
@@Yawarrior of course their purpose was not to bring salvation, duh ! congratulations, you won the special olympics. now run along and let sane adults talk, ok ?
I just read a book about the conquistadors. One funny twist of fate for the Spanish. One of the ships with cortezes gold, as it approached Spain, was attacked by a French military ship and the gold was taken back to France instead.
Big Bad John 365 That was just one ship, we had many filled with gold
@@IslenoGutierrez and many of them fell to English, French and Dutch pirates as well as storms.
Thanks to that it makes for a fun day metal detecting on the east coast of Florida today!
@@jordanhicks5131 Yes, but not enough. Spain was heavily enriched from all the gold that we acquired. France, England and Netherlands could only dream of that much gold.
@@IslenoGutierrez and now Spain is poor and France, England and Netherlands are the rich ones 😂😂
@@ViralsexY2K98 Spain is not poor
"There is nothing to fear."
Yeah, right.
Yup nothing to fear no conquering at all just a friends and no war none of that at all nope
You have nothing left to fear, for you have nothing left at all and are already dead
When anyone tel you that you should not fear, that's when you fear
@themailman43 You don't know anything about their GOD/gods . Niether can you see the lies told to defame the character of a great people. Everything out your mouth is from mental programming. A.K.A. fake history books.
Reminds me of my government during covid19 haha fuck
I am perfectly aware that everyone here understands this is a primary account made by pro-aztec parties. However, I feel obliged to point out that the "fiesta" where the spaniards felt a "sudden urge to kill" may have possibly been triggered by the fact that the aztecs were sacrificing human bodies and flesh to their statue as silently pointed out in 8:57 and when disgusted spanish forces tried to stop it and take the statue down, violence erupted. Otherwise, that was an amazing video with a world/class voicing narrator.
the sacrifices probably were still alive, read up on aztec rituals and sacrifices, those bodies were probably screaming whilst having their beating hearts ripped out.
To aztecs, sacrifices would be bog standard if the gods were there. To them, it's like if Jesus came back and got angry that people did communion.
"When in Rome..."
Do not forget the Spanish kneeled to a bloodied God and have statues gruesomely detailed of it's crucified son. Ever saw it from that perspective?
@@korosuke1788 have you ever heard of the holy trinity, jesus is god and god is jesus.
So technically it's god being crucified up there.
Not really a believer though.
There's a huge difference between the god of a religion being sacrificed for the rest of the world and sacrificing children to appease your god, that my friend is quite the opposite of Christianity's skydaddy.
Damn dude you're pretty desperate to justify the erasure of an entire people but oh no their heckin human sacrificerinos
Aztecs: Nooo, you can't just conquer people, that's our thing!
Cortez: Haha gun goes boom boom
Montezuma thought they were gods
Oooo boi this one got me
Mr. Rich B.O.B I suppose one isn't really very popular if he or she conquered all peripheral tribes, used their citizens as human sacrifice and lorded over everyone as living gods. No wonder Cortez had such an easy tim taking out the Aztecs. Had the Aztecs been more kind to those they had conquered, then I'm pretty optimistic in stating that Cortez would have surely been defeated. Then again, had the Aztecs not been so naive or superstitious and attacked Cortez immediately, then Mexico could have been theirs; not to mention the fact that they could have then reversed engineered the weapons Cortez's men would leave behind after the battle.
@@fastcars393 reverse engineering requires knowledge of engineering and scientific method. While the aztecs were good engineers in the beginning, which is one of the reasons for their local prominence, their science and engineering had deteriorated a great amount by the time Europeans arrived. The Aztecs had become deeply superstitious by that time, their scientists and alchemists had been replaced by sorcerers and magicians. In all fairness they would've thought of the canon and the gunpouder as some sort of supernatural material and their magicians would have danced around it in an effort to create more of it themselves.
@@fastcars393 here is some Monday morning quarterbacking that comes quite a few Mondays after the fact.
Gee, ya thunk?
"mushrooms that spread confusion" aka shrooms
Your quote it wrong, it was about shrooms but about the confusion of a bad trip
According to Dr. Timothy Leary, the Aztec elite reserved those morsels for themselves, making it illegal for the common person. One can't have a serf conversing with the deity for him or herself, they might go off in their own direction in "confusion" with a: "Screw you Chiefs and your feather hats. I've got my own feather hat now!"
If Leary's reading is correct about the Aztecs, can one also see a de facto correlation in a few modern societies where ~shroom~ prohibitions exist, but, the rich are not likely to be stopped or arrested should they wish to partake the flesh of the gods? Not to digress overmuch, but, sometimes it seems that the superstructure of our social order is not actually so much different from that of antiquity.
You must be a brain surgeon Maluki.
Nothing gets passed you
@@oliversmith9200 Indeed! Nothing new under the sun.
In the Spanish account, it's the Aztecs who succeed in killing Moctezuma from far away even though he was held by the Spanish. It's interesting that that detail is left unmentioned, but undisputed in the Aztec account here. But one thing the accounts definitely agree on is the Spanish lust for gold!
The Spanish account was designed to minimize the unauthorized genocide on Cortez's part.
Text says the Spanish killed him
@@philo3838 You weren't listening closely enough. The text here just says what the Spanish did with the body.
As far as we can tell, Moctezuma was stoned to death by his own people.
@@jasonclayton4470 If they intended genocide, they did a pretty poor job at it, since the people they supposedly intended to exterminate survived and even thrived subsequently!
@CyberPunker00 Maybe you want to take the terminological issue up with the content creator, since this video is titled "Aztec Perspective".
I've been a sttudent of this clash of civilizations since I was in college in the early 1970s and this is an excellent presentation. It does leave out the fact that Cortez had to fight off the Spanish who were sent from Hispaniola to shut down Cortez. Cortex defeated their leader and the soldiers joined Cortez. Prescott wrote the original book on ths history and it was used by the US soldiers during their invasion of Mexico City in the 1840s to find their way to the capital.
Yeah, there is a lot more internal politics than people generally know. Brilliant campaigns I think, Cortez and Pizzaro.
*Cortés.
@@arkaitzetxeandia7542 My keyboard won't alllow that charactter because it's in English. Maybe there is a special keyboard combination that I'm not aware of.
@@DANVIIL, I'm not just saying it because of the accent, the word also ends in "s". The ending "-ez" in Spanish surnames means "son of". "Fernández" means "son of Fernando"; "González" means "Son of Gonzalo", "Rodríguez" means "son of Rodrigo", "Martínez" means "son of Martín" ... but "cortés" means, literally, "courteous" or "polite". It has nothing to do with the endings in "-ez" nor does it mean the same thing. "Cortez" in Spanish means absolutely nothing.
@@arkaitzetxeandia7542 knock it off
My life’s mission is to create a 100% historically accurate cinematographic/theatrical version of the first hand account of the conquest of Mexico. Idk why it has never been done. Such an amazing story encapsulating the full range of human emotions from fear to pain to ecstasy treachery, blind faith, tradition vs evolution, honor vs instinct and survival. Wow just remember if you see an amazing film about the conquest of Mexico in the next 10 years you will go back into the internet archive and see that it started here with a simple desire of a man named Hugo to see this amazing take truthfully told with amazing detail to do justice to both people
Good luck in trying to not get canceled
Please, refer to true historians, and not to Anglo Saxons, who with a few exceptions, they are not accurate and do not know the history of our countries. I suggest to refer to good mexican historians like Jose Villalpando, Zunzunegui, and many others that are true scholars in the subject. I learned that many Anglo Saxon historic interpretations of the Spanish Conquest, are bias, twisted, inaccurate and in many instances plain fake. Do not fall for false history, especially if you want to make movies 100 % historic. Good luck from a Colombian living in California. Also, you can research Alfonso Borrego, a descendant from the Chief Geronimo, who lives in Texas, and has become a historian by dedicating his live to research and study the Spanish history and cultural legacy of the Southwest American states, that were part of New Spain, then Mexico, until they became part of the United States.
do it
Progress update?
that would be a great movie if it were made in the 90s or early 2000s but now a days the woke supremacists will have you #cancelled before you even get to shooting
What makes this whole thing even more interesting is that the Aztec-Spanish War was simply a centuries-long inter-tribal conflict that the Spanish got roped into because of their greed and desire for conquest. On the other hand, the Mayan Conquest was more like a slow pattern of skirmishes that slowly assimilated them into the fold, so much so that many modern-day Mayans still live the way they used to (kinda).
Nahuas, Mixtecs and Zapotecs do too to an extent.
I wasn’t expecting the UFO sighting towards the end.
Sounds like a ball lightning
Spoopy
Those just seemed like fireworks, maybe the spanish had them from trade with china? I am not sure about the timeframe of this though, but that's what it seemed like to me.
@Da'Rellus Jarvis Marquavius No you cant. Only people who know nothing about historical art would claim something so absurd.
CALCULUS WALULU then YOU obviously know NOTHING. History goes back further than what our so called ‘historians’ care to lie to us about. Everything they know is out of books created by biased institutions, funded by organisations or religious factions that have their own agendas. Rinse and repeated over time and crucifying anyone who challenges what their storyline is. Look at ancient cultures and their creation stories and you will see a completely different story. Look at the real evidence not what the ‘bought and paid for’ so called experts say.
One brutal tribe beaten by another. The story of the centuries.
Until we decide to stop.
Miki Cerise Yeah that’s not happening. We as human beings love conflict and violence
Truest statement on this video
Pizarro used a similar trick against the Inca Emperor Atahualpa, kidnapping him and using him to take control of the state. To his credit, Atahualpa understood the Spaniards were not Gods, but merely human raiders but he fatally underestimated them. He invited the Spaniards (who were less than 200) to meet him at Cajamarca with his personal guard/entourage of 8000 men (who were mostly unarmed). Atahualpa couldn't imagine how dangerous the Spaniards were, but the Spaniards laid an ambush and massacred Atahualpa's panicked men with cannons, cavalry and swords.
For the record, there’s no proof that Montezuma actually thought they were gods. In fact, there’s much to the contrary in Cortes’ letters to Charles V.
@@Eevcee It's likely that Montezuma, at least INITIALLY thought that the Spaniards were gods. In nearly ALL transcriptions we have of Montezuma's "welcome" speech, he greets Cortes as if he were Quetzalcoatl returned from the sea.
@@wilb6657 no it was not “likely”, that was just there way of welcoming people
The Spanish where true heroes for defeating these savages
@@kenwaltson7113 exactly !!
"I give you my word as a Spaniard."
"Sorry, I've known too many Spaniards."
....Throw me the rope.
isn't there any way you will trust me?
@@justin_5631 nothing comes to mind!
Once again you have outdone yourself on this channel. Listening to the first contact and now this back to back is something that begs to be made into a screenplay. Thank you for this channel, it is a gift to anyone with any level of interest in history.
I can almost see a stern face saying "we are friends " but not smiling at all ..
Would you simle at someone that spill human blood over your food because in their culture that's a cool move? Damn! If the Spaniards thought the Aztecs were barbarians cannibals human sacrificers, then all the guesses were confirmed!
@@pablogarcia1047 they showed their cards way too quick
Cortes then turned to Motecusuma, and said to him, by means of our interpretress, Doña Marina: "Your majesty is, indeed, a great monarch, and you merit to be still greater! It has been a real delight to us to view all your cities. I have now one favour to beg of you, that you would allow us to see your gods and teules."
To which Motecusuma answered, that he must first consult his chief papas, to whom he then addressed a few words. Upon this, we were led into a kind of small tower, with one room, in which we saw two basements resembling altars, decked with coverings of extreme beauty. On each of these basements stood a gigantic, fat-looking figure, of which the one on the right hand represented the god of war Huitzilopochtli. This idol had a very broad face, with distorted and furious-looking eyes, and was covered all over with jewels, gold, and pearls, which were stuck to it by means of a species of paste, which, in this country, is prepared from a certain root. Large serpents, likewise, covered with gold and precious stones, wound round the body of this monster, which held in one hand a bow, and in the other a bunch of arrows. Another small idol which stood by its side, representing its page, carried this monster's short spear, and its golden shield studded with precious stones. Around Huitzilopochtli's neck were figures representing human faces and hearts made of gold and silver, and decorated with blue stones. In front of him stood several perfuming pans with copal, the incense of the country; also the hearts of three Indians, who had that day been slaughtered, were now consuming before him as a burnt-offering. Every wall of this chapel and the whole floor had become almost black with human blood, and the stench was abominable.
On the left hand stood another figure of the same size as Huitzilopochtli. Its face was very much like that of a bear, its shining eyes were made of tetzcat, the looking-glass of the country. This idol, like its brother Huitzilopochtli, was completely covered with precious stones, and was called Tetzcatlipuca. This was the god of hell, and the souls of the dead Mexicans stood under him.[62] A circle of figures wound round its body, resembling diminutive devils with serpents' tails. The walls and floor around this idol were also besmeared with blood, and the stench was worse than in a Spanish slaughter-house. Five human hearts had that day been sacrificed to him. On the very top[Pg 240] of this temple stood another chapel, the woodwork of which was uncommonly well finished, and richly carved. In this chapel there was also another idol, half man and half lizard, completely covered with precious stones; half of this figure was hidden from view. We were told that the hidden half was covered with the seeds of every plant of this earth, for this was the god of the seeds and fruits: I have, however, forgotten its name, but note that here also everything was besmeared with blood, and the stench so offensive that we could not have staid there much longer. In this place was kept a drum of enormous dimensions, the tone of which, when struck, was so deep and melancholy that it has very justly been denominated the drum of hell. The drum-skin was made out of that of an enormous serpent; its sound could be heard at a distance of more than eight miles. This platform was altogether covered with a variety of hellish objects,-large and small trumpets, huge slaughtering knives, and burnt hearts of Indians who had been sacrificed: everything clotted with coagulated blood, cursed to the sight, and creating horror in the mind. Besides all this, the stench was everywhere so abominable that we scarcely knew how soon to get away from this spot of horrors. Our commander here said, smilingly, to Motecusuma: "I cannot imagine that such a powerful and wise monarch as you are, should not have yourself discovered by this time that these idols are not divinities, but evil spirits, called devils. In order that you may be convinced of this, and that your papas may satisfy themselves of this truth, allow me to erect a cross on the summit of this temple; and, in the chapel, where stand your Huitzilopochtli and Tetzcatlipuca, give us a small space that I may place there the image of the holy Virgin; then you will see what terror will seize these idols by which you have been so long deluded."[63]
Motecusuma knew what the image of the Virgin Mary was, yet he was very much displeased with Cortes' offer, and replied, in presence of two papas, whose anger was not less conspicuous, "Malinche, could I have conjectured that you would have used such reviling language as you have just done, I would certainly not have shown you my gods. In our eyes these are good divinities: they preserve our lives, give us nourishment, water, and good harvests, healthy and growing weather, and victory whenever we pray to them for it. Therefore we offer up our prayers to them, and make them sacrifices. I earnestly beg of you not to say another word to insult the profound veneration in which we hold these gods."
As soon as Cortes heard these words and perceived the great excitement under which they were pronounced, he said nothing in return,[Pg 241] but merely remarked to the monarch with a cheerful smile: "It is time for us both to depart hence." To which Motecusuma answered, that he would not detain him any longer, but he himself was now obliged to stay some time to atone to his gods by prayer and sacrifice for having committed gratlatlacol, by allowing us to ascend the great temple, and thereby occasioning the affronts which we had offered them.
Which book is this from, friend?
“When the Spaniards left Tecnochitlan, the Aztecs thought they had departed for good and would never return.”
Aztec mistake number 2…..
Only the population of city, the goverment and the tlatohuanis were hunting spaniards till the fall of the city
@@masterofzombie I’d love to read more about that any book suggestions?
Thank u Tlaxcalans
Mistake #1 was trying to serve cortez a human child as food. If only the aztecs knew about the crusades. When old european rulers see something against their faith they go all out.
@@TheIrishRushin against their faith? I know right? Whats not to like about human sacrifice, cannibalism, polygamy. As far as humanity is concerned the Spaniards did us all a favour by ending that corrupt and perverted culture.
As a historian, although I appreciate primary sources, sometimes you ask "Who is the author, and did he really witness all those events first hand?" In this narration are certain instances where the author most likely never witnessed in person. It could be hearsay, it could be he asked those involved, it could be that some parts are just outright fabrications.
Yeah this sounds reconstructed and conveniently omitting the horrors of Aztec rule, sacrifices, and the insane number of native people who fought for cortez because they hated the Aztecs
@@renaissance17I hate to break it to both of you but primary sources and secondary are just as easily to be fabricated or inaccurate. Humans even present in a conflicts kind can conflate and alter reality especially with time and stress of the situation.
Read the memoirs of Bernal Diaz del Castillo (el Galan) for the personal history of a participant in the Conquest.
hi, where does it come from the name El Galan ? I haven't heard about that name, regards
Will do
La verdadera hitoria de la conquista -the true history of conquisition
Wikipedia is always correct LOl
I really love what you do, I've watched many of your videos and every time I'm fascinated. Keep up the good work.
I've always had a passion for history. I always wondered how ancient people viewed their world. This presentation does a good job of painting a picture in my mind.
the video was very intriguing. Using historical records, the creator of the video beautifully narrated the conquest of the Spaniards from the perspective of a native. It is refreshing to hear the story from the perspective of those being attacked. It helped paint a picture and I felt that I was actually there
From the Aztec perspective
The reign of the Aztecs came to an end. All the surrounding tribes were relieved, although they had no idea how the Spaniards would rule them as well. The Aztecs were cruel and heartless rulers of the region. That's why it was relatively easy for Cortes to recruit the native tribes. Some like to dismiss the suffering the Aztecs inflicted on its neighbors. They raided , enslaved, killed or sacrificed their enemies. It was the strong preying on the weak. Cortes changed the world, for better or worse.
Artista Primus, finally someone tells things like they were, thank you. This video is awfully faulty and a very twisted interpretation. The worse is that so many people do not know or have studied history, listen to this, and believe it all.
This is like fake news…
@@angelagonimavalero7700 Ah, a fellow realist and intellectual. The story is told the way it is to paint the Spaniards as vile imperialists. The Aztecs and Mayans are portrayed as a noble, advanced society that was victimized by white Europeans. The truth is in the middle. The Aztecs had their chance and ruled for many years. An extended period of drought was responsible for their decline as much as the Spaniards.
Try to remember that the tribes tried wiping out the Spanish first.
You know you're in for a treat when a documentary on ancient cultures is narrated by a man with an awesome accent
It's interesting how they interacted with each other even though they spoke two unrelated languages.
Your question have a good answer. Cortes at that time already have two translators . La malinche who speak nauhatl( aztec language) and mayan too., and Geronimo de Aguilar who spoke Mayan and Spanish . So when Aztecs spooke , la malinche translate to Geronimo in Mayan who then translate to Cortes in spanish. And otherways. In the time La malinche learnt spanish and no more nedeed Geronimos services. This two were very important in the conquer of the aztec empire. They have interesting histories how Cortes got their services. By the way The Aztecs in that time had the name of mexicans until this time
@@juantristan1957 I get that they had translators, but what I wanted to know specifically, is how does one learn a language completely different and unrelated to their native language? How did Geronimo de Aguilar learn the Mayan language?
Geronimo de Aguilar had a very interesting history. He and another 18 spanish were castaway, 8 years before cortes rescue him, So When cortes disembarc in yucatan, the mayans told cortes that people like him ( by gestures ) are living in a mayan tribe. And from the 18 people castaways only two survived at that time. One was Gernonimo de Aguilar and the other ( im sorry i dont remember rigth niw the name) . But only geronimo de aguilar follow cortes because the other spanish have already wife and sons and was a chief of his mayan tribe, and even died after figthing cortes. So the short answer is: Gernonimo de Aguilar spoke Mayan because he lived with Mayan people 8 years.
By the way the other castaway name was Gonzalo Guerrero, and both ( Aguilar and Guerrero ) were living in Cozumel not Yucatan Im sorry. And la Malinche was original from a nahuatl speaking tribe and because his father who was a chief of the tribe did not paid the taxes to the mexicans, the father was arrested and killed and his sons and daughters were sold as slaves to some mayans. So la malinche was a slave when the mayan masters give her to cortes after they loss the battle and have been living with the mayan people .
And another interesting thing , do you believe that after 8 years living with the mayans Geronimo de Aguilar almost forgot the spanish language? , and by the way he do not had mayan wife because he was a catholic priest and read the bible because he rescue that book at the time when the boat sunk
The escape scene was like the 16th century version of black hawk down
One short walk on a very long pier... THIS SUMMER. HERNAN CORTEZ.
This was a really interesting video.
History is funny.
"The other guy" is always the villain.
How disturbingly naive of you.
timkbir chico
How is that naive? It’s a basic human psychology system that one views themselves as the ‘good guy’
It’s extremely rare someone will go ‘you know what? I’m gonna be the villain here’
Everyone views themselves as righteous from their standpoint a lot of the time. Sometimes people will fight for selfish and greedy reasons and will be aware of that fact, but they’ll usually spin it so they appear ‘better’ than their enemy in their own mind. Generally speaking people view themselves as ‘good’
Moctezuma: We had an Empire that was built on institutionalized war, massive human sacrifice and cannibalism. We also were great in architecture and making ceremonial clothing from human skin... Did I mention the architecture?
And you Evil doers destroyed all this with the help of the tribes and nations we subjugated and ruled over!
Cortez: Bruh, you serious?
@@timkbirchico8542 Warmongering nation of cannibals and human sacrificers that dominated the other tribes and demanded blood and gold tributes loses to some Spaniards with boom boom sticks who rallied up all the opposing tribes and stole all the bloodmoney.
Those poor cannibals amirite
In this case, I don't think they needed such as excuse. In fact, the excuses come after the encounter, not before. That said, throughout history, leaders have believed their rule the will of heaven, so divine and a kind of manifest destiny. Therefore, anything standing in the way, obviously counters the "will of god." And that's how statesmen live with conquest.
Moctezuma: Welcome! Have some gifts!
Cortes: Don't be afraid. We are friends.
Moctezuma: Uh, sure...
Cortes over cannon fire in the distance: There. Is. Nothing. To. Fear.
Malinche knows Mayan, aztec and other mazoamercan languages but at that time she only translated aztec to Mayan to another Spaniard who survived a wrecked ship and who lived among the Mayan for years this Spaniard did the translation to Spanish , it took Malinche a few years to learn Spanish. Facts..
Yep the Mayan may have used malinche as a prostitute because a Spanish ship landed in Yucatan peninsula in which the Mayans killed all except for 2 Spaniards one was Gonzalo Guerrero and he became a war chieftain and when Cortez landed the Mayan chief as offering gave them prostitutes which was dona malinche
The destruction of the books, jewelry, religious artifacts, the entire city, the history for the greed of a yellow metal twists my heart into knots every time I hear and read this story.
Unfortunately the Aztecs had no written language I’m sure if they had books there would have been an effort by the Spaniards tk destroy then but some documents/artefacts might have slipped through
@@onlyhereforddebob8978 yes, and no. Though they did not have a strict alphabet as we do, the mayan and Aztec had extensive and complex pictographs. Which for all intense and purposes is writing. Chinese language alphabet is based off pictographs. The Egyptian alphabet were pictographs. You go back to the Greek, and Persian roots of our own alphabet you'll get pictographs. So the mayans most certainly had a system of images that are standardized and convey meaning if not specific sounds. Sounds like writing to me. Oh... and they had countless books. So many! And as you say, they were often sought out and destroyed by the Spaniards as many of the books were centered around their gods and religious practices. So naturally Jesuit priests were eager to have them destroyed. A few have survived, look em up.
So... I think you might be mixing up the Aztec, and the greater mayan people with the Inca of South America. The Inca did not have writing, some religious iconography, but nothing that could be construed as a written language. All they had to keep records was a curious method of tying knots in a length of string and attaching different ribbons to signify certain events, or happenings, or numbers. Yeah... the Inca, not the same as Aztec.
Pagans owned, the Aztecs religion was disgusting and vile. Good riddance.
@@curtisowen3233 Aztecs didn't have an alphabet because these symbols didn't represent sounds or words, (unlike in Chinese). Mayans on the other hand did have the only pre-columbian Native American alphabet.
Wrong, you got it wrong, Anglo Saxon version, ignorance of the real history is obvious.
I love your videos my friend.You have hands down the absolute best narrative voice i have ever heard.
The detailed evocative narration is honestly imo what sets it apart from the other voices of the past videos.
He deserves some kind of prize like a Grammy for narration or something like that.
"Ugh I hate rain."
"It's more of a drizzle, or a heavy dew."
That is what happens when you bring flowers to a sword fight.
I mean, the Aztecs did have something called Flower Wars
That's rich. You must not know much about the Aztecs.
😂😂
It doesn't help when only one side knows they're fighting
@@victor75208 How true.
Great video. Can't wait for more in the future.
Nice. You have a great voice. However, I feel you missed an important chapter that I believe was important for context of how Cortés adapted to the situations.
As far as I remember, the Massacre of the Great Temple wasn't part of the plan. Cortés was not present in the city at that time. Once he came back, he tried to use Moctezuma to quell the population, but some say a rock or something from the multitude hit him on the head, killing him. With him death, he knew the deal was up, and that's when they had to make their escape.
Arturo Cevallos Soto .Its the Aztec version and their story.”As far as I remember”....just does not cut it.
@@oscarsusan3834 I corrected my comment. It's the Massacre of the Great Temple. Cortés had left the city to deal with another Spaniard expedition that had come from Cuba to arrest him.
I thought the same but assumed the source that’s being read from didn’t include it, not it was skipped.
@CyberPunker00 The massacre at the Temple was organized by Pedro de Alvarado as a premptive attack. Because he had learned from some locals that the Aztecs were planning to kill the Spaniards and drive them out of the city. He didn't just flip out.
Alvarado's excuse seems like an after-the-fact justification to slaughter left and right. The description of the festival shows that may Aztec warriors were present. When you see the elite of the enemy's army, unarmed and in mirthful song and dance, when better to cut the head off the snake than right there and then?
Montezuma was a real "nice guys finish last" kinda guy.
Nice edit at 1:14 That fade in from Cortes to a skull is some serious foreshadowing
What an awesome channel. The narrator is awesome, I'm glad I found it.
Lesson learned, never invite a Spaniard to dinner.
Aztecs didn’t invite guests for dinner, they ATE them for dinner
@@anxeletemccolin699 well you are not wrong
Ha Ha Ha It is strange it never gives an account of peace-loving Aztecs massacring nearby tribes which regarded the Spaniard as their Liberator
The Aztec used to sacrifice children
Moctezuma descendants are Spanish citizens and are part of the Spanish nobility
Are you... the ‘king’?
-Yes, my lord
[Laughs] Ready the tortillas!
Tortillas were not a spanish food. So it would be "fire the tomatos"
115DELDE They were an Aztec food - that had been prepared for/fed to the Spanish previously.
@@thebrocialist8300 tortilla is a Spanish word and food, it means small round cake or bread, but it’s often used to refer to a thick round cake-like Spanish egg omelet with potatoes and onions in it. Mexican tortillas are an Aztec food that the Aztecs called tlaxcalli, not tortilla. The Spanish named the Aztec tlaxcalli as tortilla because of its small round shape reminiscent of the small round cakes known to medieval Spaniards and in Mexican Spanish it is now called tortilla instead of tlaxcalli. Tortilla derives from the word torta which means round cake or round bread. The illa on the end of tortilla is a diminutive show small size.
Fun fact, in the book “discovery and conquest of Mexico” by Bernal Diaz Del Castillo, there’s a mention of being served tortillas wrapped in cloth. Same as they do it now.
Perfect timing. Just so happens that I usually watch these around this time if day.
I subbed, thanks for sharing these documentaries.
Love the way you tell storys.
no one going to mention the ufo that turns up randomly 2 minutes from the end?
Yeah that was weird.
hard to give it much thought when these people talk so much absolute nonsense. i'd assume it was just some firework or flare thing the spanish shot.
@@tomtaylor5623 to be fair there are accounts like this from across the world, maybe there is just less atmospheric phenomenon happening today for whatever reason.
@Timothy Dexter ah, well played.
'It circled the wall nearest the lake and then hovered there for a while'
Is that something flares and fireworks do?
I want to hear the horses perspective...
nay.
Mr. "Ed"-Gardo has no comment...
"new grass"
"new smells"
"Owch"
"More new grass"
I'm so glad I found this channel
That was wonderful, muchas gracias.
F-u
25:30 how did the spaniards capture horses? south america didnt have any at the time. by capture does it mean re-obtain their horses?
most probably yes...
@acammtt True, it should have been said "North-America" or "Americas" as you said.
Spain brought their own horses, so yeah, this is confusing.
@@turkoositerapsidi or just America, which is the correct name for the whole New World.
@@rogeriopenna9014 True, but the yankees think it means just them, and they are also the ones that say others have to speak England to do good business. They did not want to learn an auxiliary language, because they are too lazy.
Fantastic video. I’ve recently been researching more about the fall of the Aztecs and the Florentine Codex after I listened to The Fall of Civilization Podcast’s episode on the subject. Maybe you two creators could collaborate on something?
@Estie I love the ‘The Fall of Civilization’ RUclips channel. I watched the one about the Aztecs yesterday. So good!
Thanks for a great time. ♥️
“This is Aztec gold... one of 882 identical pieces they delivered in a stone chest to Cortez himself. Blood money paid to stem the slaughter he wreaked upon them with his armies. But the greed of Cortez was insatiable. So the heathen gods placed upon the gold... a terrible curse. Any mortal that removes but a single piece from that stone chest shall be punished... for eternity.”
- Captain Hector Barbossa
They were all that way. Every army worth anything were fearless and ruthless. Otherwise, they would not exist. They were trained to tenets that go back to the Roman Legions. You conquer and then pillage. It was done by every army up til modern times. You had to do this out of survival as standing armies need a lot of provisions and the only way to keep from starving is looting the cities and towns and stripping it of its value. No morality tales just reality. Conquistadors were some of the best and did what they were trained foras an army. Nothing more
There is a fantastic book on this called 'conquistadors' by Michael Wood. definitely recommend it.
This Channel is for very refined individuals with a taste for the finest content in life, it’s the little things that they never teach in school that are the most fascinating facts about the episodes of our human history.
As a Mexican this is where our nation started we are the descendants of the feather fancy Aztec Emperor and the Gleaming Metal Spanish Conquistadors.
Doesn't it feel weird foreigners are more defensive about your own native history than you? Lol
@@hugojaime9565 I was referring precisely to those kinds of people lol
@@markeedeep Since you are making me do your Woke College Professors work I expect a reply.
You’re comment is extremely ignorant and offensive.
Mexican Culture in all aspects is a Mix of Spanish and Indigenous Culture everything from our Spicy foods with European ingredients like Cheese like enchiladas to our Music with drums , wooden flutes and Spanish guitars like the Mariachi to our language and belief systems like Santeria which is a Mix of Catholicism and Old Indigenous with also African voodoo practices is a Mix.
Aztecs were Slavers and Brutal ones that’s why over 30 thousand Tlaxcaltecas , Azcapotzalcas, etc joined Cortez against the Aztecs.
The Spanish were the saviors of these people their suffering under Aztecs rule was insane didn’t you hear we used to sacrifice people? What you think they sacrificed their own kind? Nope whole military campaigns were launched to have sacrifice cattle.
The Spanish were not like your British ancestors they actually did good things not just exterminate and plunder, the first Hospitals the First Universities to which all had access were made by Spain, Your dollar sign 💲 is derived from the Spanish Real which was the first international currency. We were subjects yes but wealthy ones and protected from other Super Powers like Britain and the US , Did you know that our so called “Independence leaders” in Latin America were Freemasons working for the British Crown to take out the Spanish and divide and destabilize Latin America? Like Bolivar? They didn’t teach you that?
Never before and never after was Latin America so rich peaceful and prosperous that when we were 1 empire but you and your Racist American and British Freemasons couldn’t stand it so you destroyed us from within and look now you have the Balls to tell me you Thieve Descendant Saxon is my Defender?
You are one ignorant sob 😭
And don’t delete my comment own your ignorance.
@@hugojaime9565 bro, you didn't realise all along I am precisely *criticising* the wokers! 🤣
But I really enjoyed reading your whole comment, and I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprised that I have in fact read about elite open pitched battles in the founding parliament of modern day Mexico 😃 it was from a book I bought like 22 years ago now (no joke lol)
I'm also fairly well versed in modern American history, both northern and southern. I am aware of the fact that Argentina, for example, was at the beginning of the 20th century the world's richest country. Not at all unbelievable either, although you do have to admit the anglophones ultimately did a better job at securing hegemony over the Americas as a whole, rather than you the neo-castilian majority peoples there. I'm not English either, by the way 🙂
@@markeedeep I Don’t even know anymore these Wokies are everywhere.
About the modern congress in Mexico it’s all been the PRI for the most part it all derived from the revolution another Freemason sparked movement that only made things worse.
And yes the Anglophones were better at securing hegemony in the Americas through indirect warfare, infiltration, ideological subversion etc I’ll give them that , I guess that’s why Freemasonry is prohibited in China along with all secret societies I believe they are just protecting themselves.
Terrible what happened to Argentina yes the Marxist virus will kill any society and throw it into the social/ political, economic doom
What theyre not telling you is the spaniards were assisted by numerous tribes who were eager to stop the Aztec. Also montezuma was handed over to the spanish. There was a group that wanted to Sacrifice the Spaniards. The High Priest converted to Christianity, many lesser priests likewise followed suit. Then chaos ensued.
There were about 6,000 Tlaxcalan warriors allied to the Spaniards. Still the Spanish/Tlaxcalan army was outnumbered 4 to 1
So you were right in destroying milions of native people?
Thank you for educating me.
I love how there are parts in this video that are like quotes from the Aztecs
It gives a perspective I didn’t expect
Mexica
Brilliant narrative and narration! 28:09 is most interesting: a possible description of a _vimana_ or UFO: "blazing like a great bonfire in the sky, it *wheeled in enormous spirals* like a whirlwind and gave off a shower of sparks and red hot coals (...) *made loud noises* rumbling and hissing *like a metal tube* placed over a fire. It circled the wall near the lakeshore and then *hovered* for a while"
Might be a lightning ball?
Maybe Spaniards brought a powder rocket.
Good call. I don't understand how no one put that together. Sounds a lot like Ezekiels wheel, to be honest.
@@Arcgateway Rockets don't hover.
Top notch channeling, hats off
It’s exactly the opposite, misinformation, this video is very ifi.
I found the narration came across with tremendous emotional impact!
Heart rending in a way!
My guess is that the Spanish were totally freaked out and paranoid about the human sacrifice and cannibalism. It would have been very easy for the Aztecs to get the upper hand. But the fear of cannibalism is probably one reason they wanted to destroy their civilization as much as possible.
Another big reason was the gold!
Thank you
"Heart rending?"
@@josephb.4640
The Aztecs & Incas got themselves horribly entrenched in ritualized cannibalism and this is extremely disturbing. But those people were not stupid. And they seemed to have not known any better. Who can say? Who can judge especially since this took place many hundreds of years ago.
@@dandavatsdasa8345 - Sorry, I should've made my comment clearer. I was joking about your choice of words, "heart-rending," in reference to the Aztecs sacrifice of ripping out people's hearts.
Yes, the Aztecs were very intelligent, but also very engulfed in one of the most dangerous superstitions in human history.
@Joseph B.
Yes, of course research has turned up a number of horrific and disturbing features to their traditions.
Who can really understand?
Some Aztecs were great warriors, some were servants, and some were peasants.
There was one tradition where someone was declared a manifestation of one Aztec god. This person would wander about the area getting indulged in so many ways. Eventually this individual would be sacrificed and his body cannibalized. But it seems that it was just their way of life.
Generally people may have just considered what kind of food makes them feel strong. But in modern times there are scientific findings regarding nutrition.
Their Cannibalism tradition must be traced back thousands of years. Conceivably there were times over the past 20000 years when tribes sold their own people as slaves and possibly sold them to Maneaters.
It is said that once the Aztecs started fighting back they gave the "Conquistadors" a terrible time on the battlefield.
But the Conquistadors had more concerns than just the horrors of Cannibalism.
Taking human life and human rights cheaply has probably been a concern throughout the history of humanity. The Aztecs developed in a unique way.
While the Aztecs were very intelligent about some things - their language was odd and certain other particulars were odd.
Written languages developing around the Mediterranean area was in part unique compared to the whole world. However, it is argued that Sanskrit was one of the oldest written languages.
Written languages probably contributed to the development of seafaring and warfare technology. The Aztecs were terribly lacking in this regard.
Seemed like they were particularly aiming for the gold
Cortez: There is nothing to fear.
Montezuma: you liek gold, fren?
Cortez: Hold up
The Aztecs were in reality the Mexicas and they were one of the most cruel and tyrannical civilizations in the history of humanity. They were hated by their neighbors and at the end what brought their downfall was not Cortes but a coalition of tribes that used the Spanish as a small but effective military unit. The Tlaxcaltecas were the true conquerors of Tenochtitlan
Yah and plus they were guaranteed government positions as well by the Spanisrds
Genocid apologiest
No ,you just deystroyed millions of native people
@@user-tj7nb9fu9t don’t put labels, be a bit more intelligent and study history
@@julio5prado and when you say 'be more intelligent ' it means don't call it what it is (western genocide)
magellan tv!? :O MAAAAN THANKS I NEEDED SOMETHING LIKE THAT!
Absolutely incredible!
My Latin America history class led me here, thanks for such a narration and video. 👏👏
Please, do not follow this inaccurate description. If you want history of the Latin American countries and in particular the history of Mexico, go to a mexican historian, like Villalpando, Zunzunegui, and some other scholars. The Anglo Saxon versions of our history is incredibly inaccurate, with exception of true American scholars that have really researched and studied Spanish and Latin American history. This video is not good.
I think it’s good
First of all, Bravo to the creator of this video. Such great story telling I was intrigued every moment. I felt as though I could really feel the spirit of the Aztec civilization and their desperation to protect their home from these strangers. Second, I can't comprehend the audacity of the Spaniards to raid everything they had. The equivalent of them taking the Aztec gold and burning everything else that they thought was "useless" is the same as someone coming into our home and taking all of our money while burning all of our belongings. I can only imagine how terrible it must have been watching these strangers set fire to precious religious artifacts and valuable sentimental objects.
You are creating a Hollywood movie. The Aztecs were destroying all their neighbors with thousand of human sacrifices from the best of their youth and were disappearing the other tribes and nations around them. When Cortes arrived, all these Nations joined him to fight the Aztecs, who were so hated and feared. So do not think that everything was that rosie.
Audacity!? That was what they were trained for. You have to put your self in their time period and disregard all your modern morality and its trappings. Conquer and pillage was what every army did. If they didn't they would be defeated easily themselves. The Conquistadors were fearless and could be ruthless but actually far less evil then other armies in history. Read a book and you'll learn something about historical events and the mindset they had.
It's only the equivalent if you kidnapped your neighbor's wives and daughters and sacrificed them to your god, then someone came and burnt the house were you sacrificed your victims. That's more of an equivalent.
It's always fascinating to know how life was going many centuries ago. Good informative video.
Technically this is not from the Aztecs POV. This was written by a Spaniard after much of the native writings had been burnt down.
that spanish man interviewed many mexica survivors and add their stories to the codex
@Abraham Girt Lol
This is a compilation called the Florentine Codex. A friar called Bernardino de Sahagún alongside Native Nahuatl students compiled this narrations in both Spanish and Nahuatl (or probably a romance version of Nahuatl)
No written language. Try again.
@@RDJ2 are you saying the Aztecs didn't have a written language? Lol, they had many famous poets & playwrights. Not to mention spies who would pass notes to Moctezuma. Smh 😒
People have to stop judging past events by todays standards, it makes no sense to do so. Every culture has a violent and oppressive past with beliefs you would not share aloud these days. Just appreciate history, and tbh often the violent parts the the interesting bits because we are fascinated with that stuff. Everywhere was invaded, enslaved, conquered etc at some point, and ripped off via trade. Nowadays we mainly just have the trade one
Your reading is captivating. "voices" are not needed (my opinion) as that would detract from authenticity. Thank you!!!!
thx for ur content😊😊😊
Dang, what an account. I think it would give me pause when that guy came out in his sacred bird armor stuff. This would make a good ancient epic type movie. Merry Christmas out there everybody.😊✝️🎄
One note: the x in the language of the Aztecs was pronounced as "sh" it should've been pronounced Meshico instead of Mexico.
Ok let me try
Mex-shitho-le
I think the “le” is silent
How was 'x' in their language?
So Oaxaca ought to be pronounced as Oa•sha•ca?😂🤣Actually that sounds as pronounced by Argentinians!
@@Philly_Jump_Over_The_Fence I think he got confused, in old spanish the x was pronounced as sh, so when the aztecs called their tribe "Meshicas" the spanish scribes wrote "Mexicas" however the pronunciation of the x changed in the late 16th century so it started to be pronounced as an h (Which is the reason for the pronunciation of Texas and Mexico in spanish), and finally it changed again to represent a ks sound during the 1700's.
There was no Mexico back then LMAO
Can't really bring myself to give this a thumbs up, but damn that was as insightful as it was depressing. Subscribed
Go cry in the corner
What’s so depressing, cannibals getting killed ?!
You forget the ,Spanish Inquisition, so many innocents tortured ,murdered because of ignorance and religious fanaticism all done in the name of Christ and god
Plus all the
“Convert to Christianity or die”
That happened all over the world ,
this is amazing
This is absolutely engaging.
In rooting for the Aztecs! Can't wait to see how it ends!
You already know how it ends
@@turbovirgin_ yes I do, that is the joke....
We have returned !
Well, us Mexicans are 240 million strong. The largest Spanish speaking ethnic group in the world and it is anticipated that we will be the largest “minority” in the US with the power of deciding the Elections there by 2030. Not to mention Canada where we are also growing in numbers fast. You tell me how we are doing.
Just because y’all breed like rabbit don’t mean y’all are doing well. If Mexico is doing so well then why y’all leaving Mexico. Mexico is a corrupt shot hole.
“Finders Keepers losers weepers lol”
- Every Spanish Conquistador
Great vid
Anyone else wanna see the ankle braclets with little gold bells? They sound cute af
The bells came from the idea of the Spaniards that introduced small hawk bells from falconry to the Caribbean Indians at initial European contact and this spread over time.
Lissssssten you got nothiiiin to worry about. We're "friends"
Who would win?
An empire of a thousand savage warriors vs a couple of greedy Bois in can suits
Ignorants. Read before post. The spaniards were 1200 but allies were 20,000 ( tlaxcaltecs, enemies of the aztecs) and more than 5,000 otomies. And the aztecs use to get prisioners, for the sacrificies, they were more brave if they got more prisioners, even the arms were no to kill and the spaniards had arms to kill. So nothing it s too simple . Read the history please
@ShalakumX Simba I think he meant to mispel that for effect, and yeah "savage" is subjective, he's entitled to have an opinion.
@ShalakumX Simba Ok boi
Amazing account!
Very good
Folks - No matter how black you paint the Spanish presence in the New World, remember this : they gave as well as they took - of their blood, of their culture, their language, their laws, their social institutions like schools and hospitals - and so much more. Almost immediately, the Spaniards evangelized and inter-married with the natives making them part of the Hispanic family. All of this took time, tears, and treasure, being a social process. In black contrast, the natives of North America were never welcomed in Anglo settlements, or benefited from English institutions - not even Christianity. They were made a military problem and virtually exterminated. Out of over 900 Indian Nations that existed here when the Anglos arrived, only a few survived - now mostly in reservations out west.
Alonso Quijano Without we spaniards, there would be no new world and no mestizos there in Latín América or their cultures or cuisines to celebrate because it all bears our mark
@@IslenoGutierrez I agree and without the American cultures Spain wouldn't have the resources to become the most powerful country of the world during the XVI century and even a big part of the XVII. There was good in an infinite number of things Spaniards did in America but the human cost was high. Not referring here only to the conquest wars but things like the Mita system, the encomiendas, the castas regime, the expropriation of native lands, the heavy taxation and forced public works. I'll leave it like that.
In a world of cruelty, the cruel were cruel towards the cruel, helped by those wronged by local cruel ones only to become cruel themselves. Of course, as cruelty makes no difference among humans, those who besides cruelty had some advantage (technology, plagues, whatever) ended up writing the final pages of the history where cruelty becomes a just endeavor.
the craziest part about this to me is the similarity to the 8 omens prior to conquest like all the emperors possessions that wasn’t found valuable being burtnt and the cannons of the europeans remind me of omen 1 & 4 with the flaming plume in the sky
Yeah
How many Christians sacrificed in coliseum , no Jesus or god came for save them
Thanks for your interpretation.. (Next please)
Listening to this breaks my heart. It's a very weird feeling. I look upon the conquistadors with great anger, but if it wasn't for them then I wouldn't exist, being Mestizo myself
You shouldn't really feel anything if you think about it, that's almost as if the spaniards complaint about how brutal the conquest of Iberia by the Romans was, it's an old thing, some good and bad things came out of it, but we should look forward instead of complaining about the actions of people who lived centuries ago.
conquistadors did the right thing. brought them civilization.
Don't forget that the Aztecs murdered, cannibalized and raped their neighbours. They weren't innocent.
@@dismas8884 wrong.
themailman43
>Get enslaved and have your heart ripped out by your neighbor
or
>get enslaved and die in a mine or from smallpox from stranger from overseas
Sure, much better
Cortez: "We have NOT come as friends. You should be afraid."
Worst interpreter ever: "We have come as friends. You have nothing to fear."
When someone says to you "You have nothing to fear" out of the blue, you definitely have something to fear.
This really should be a movie