Could be, I just feel like it's a bit early, no? Malice is not even out in the TCG just yet as far as I understand, how likely is it we get Malice in MD before the TCG really?
Pendulum player here ✋🏾 Shifter is such a busted card because, it sends cards meant for the gy to banishment, HOWEVER pendulum cards routinely go to the extra deck when they leave the field, EXCEPT under shifter which sends them to banishment and I absolutely hate that interaction. So shifter and dimensional barrier are literally singular cards that completely shut down a pendulum players turn, it’s atrocious.
I was indeed confused when this situation came up when i wa splaying VS and shiftered a pend player, i was like oh shit their cards are just gonna go to the extra deck. Then like you said they got banished instead. Needless to say that was an insta win
Most of my other decks (outside of Kash and a couple others) are link based decks mostly so I fully understand that Shifter resolving against some of these decks is basically an insta-lose HOWEVER looking back on it - it's also pretty rare that I play against many shifter decks outside of some of the events etc so my thinking is - yes on paper is can win the game turn 1 for a shifter player, but realistically Kash/Exosister/Floo etc are not even close to as common as most of the "non shifter" decks. It might just be Tenpai who aren't as affected by shifter that has thrust it into the limelight lately for a "popular deck" that runs shifter 😅
I think as long as Tenpai's pack is in the shop, they aren't going to touch the deck in any meaningful way. They might when the next pack comes out. I'm pretty sure the cards made unlimited were done so to clean up the banlist of power crept cards. With shifter, Snow, and Gamma being limited, I bet Tenpai will become more appealing to people who haven't pulled from the pack yet and help boost gem sales, to stay meta relevant. I have to wonder if Prosperity's ban is because of stun decks since they aim to prevent Special Summoning, which means their extra deck is a free plus 1 for them. And of course Shifter becomes worse for stun as well. I know that's a big complaint from players too.
I definitely agree with the Tenpai thing, it's just getting a pretty long grace period for how strong the deck is xD I do remember a time where I considered Trickstar's (as a fun play on my TriixstaR thing) and looked up a decklist, and one of the comments was like "if only our field spell wasn't limited" so I'm sure the Trickstar players are happy! Prosperity ban hurts so many decks though which is why it's kinda sad, but it is a generally good card for either banishing ED mons, scouting for Ash etc so I guess we will have to see how the rest develops.. it just felt like Prosperity helped to play through what otherwise could be bricks (Bricktira being one of them lol)
I'm not gonna lie, I don't care much for the opinion that DShifter is necessary. DShifter has changed yugioh in such a negative way since its launch that it as well as links and pendulums made so many people I know quit the game. To me, it's criminal that that card and Maxx C (/maxx c-type cards) have been let loose for as long as they have. Every single time I see Maxx c, Dimension Shifter, Barrier Statue, Skill Drain, Rivalry of Warlords, Legendary Karyuushin (From the Umi deck), There can only be one, etc resolve in master duel it genuinely makes me want to quit and sometimes I just close the game on the spot. People I know quit because of links, but I came back because of links. Links is a simple enough feature that I wish it would have been links instead of Synchros that came first, it would be way more fleshed out. Tenpai in my opinion is just the icing on the cake. I used to get so upset whenever I saw a Tenpai card that I scooped immediately, but honestly for me Yubel is more annoying. Whenever I see Tenpai I always use it as an opportunity to see if my deck can withstand a never-ending battle phase. I am genuinely worried that Ryzeal that is coming out is going to be worse than Tenpai in terms of obsoleting too many old decks. I am hearing people tell me that it's common for Ryzeal end boards to have on average 8 destroy pops per turn. For factory line cards that is devastating and I hope I am wrong about it.
D-Shifter is a somewhat evil card, but as stated in the video, I enjoy the decks that can abuse it since this meta is pretty bad. If the meta wasn't "toss all this to the grave, 17 effects occur" or "watch me link climb to 6+ unaffected/omni negate link monsters using hand/field/GY" it would probably be a lot less prevalent as a strategy - the entire meta in my experience is "im gonna go first, and I have tailored my deck to make it so my opponent cant play on their turn/I can negate 12 times before I need to worry + I have maxx c and ash and imperm ready" - which also explains Tenpais popularity imo I agree with you on basically "stun" cards + maxx c (obviously I don't quite agree with d-shifter but thats just me) - but again I can't hate the players, I have to choose to hate Konami for the choices they make.. They nerf SOME stun cards every so often but there are so many that it ends up being pretty void for the most part.. For me its pendulum, as cool as the mechanic seems, I just cant wrap my head around it xD luckily its not that popular that I ever face that many pendulum decks xD Tenpai I'm sure will get a nerf at some point, it's also exceedingly boring to play (though it does quite heavily rely on the normal summon in my experience, but I have only played with it a handful of times) I haven't seen or heard anything about Ryzeal, but at least for now its only in the OCG so it will likely be some time until we get in Master Duel - I'm expecting Fiendsmith to be "the thing" if I had to expect a "meta changing archetype" to come out in February 😅
@@TriixstarHD well to start, Ryzeal is a rank 4 xyz toolbox that special summons a lot per turn like Salamangreat, and can also negate effects even through chain blocks with its field spell. it has a rank-4 XYZ that has a varying number of materials that (not once per turn) can detach to pop cards on the field indiscriminately. I always had this suggestion, but yugioh master duel should have a real duel mode where both players have 120-200 seconds to setup their board (where you cant affect your opponent during this period) before a coin flips and the first person to go is chosen. It would eliminate the need to prevent first turn attacks (which already doesnt make sense) and would open the door to more lenient normal summoning rules being implemented, which would fix a lot of old decks' problems as well.
Shifter is an extremely unhealthy card for the game. Regardless how you slice it. There are bad decks that lose to it. They dint get a 2 lingering floodgate crutch. The cards terrible for the game
What are your thoughts on this ban list? Let me know! 👇
Glad Konami are finally hitting cards that should've been banned years ago.
Just a hunch here. I believe the shifter hit was done as a preventative measure for the eventual release of Malice.
Could be, I just feel like it's a bit early, no? Malice is not even out in the TCG just yet as far as I understand, how likely is it we get Malice in MD before the TCG really?
Pendulum player here ✋🏾 Shifter is such a busted card because, it sends cards meant for the gy to banishment, HOWEVER pendulum cards routinely go to the extra deck when they leave the field, EXCEPT under shifter which sends them to banishment and I absolutely hate that interaction. So shifter and dimensional barrier are literally singular cards that completely shut down a pendulum players turn, it’s atrocious.
I was indeed confused when this situation came up when i wa splaying VS and shiftered a pend player, i was like oh shit their cards are just gonna go to the extra deck. Then like you said they got banished instead. Needless to say that was an insta win
Most of my other decks (outside of Kash and a couple others) are link based decks mostly so I fully understand that Shifter resolving against some of these decks is basically an insta-lose HOWEVER looking back on it - it's also pretty rare that I play against many shifter decks outside of some of the events etc so my thinking is - yes on paper is can win the game turn 1 for a shifter player, but realistically Kash/Exosister/Floo etc are not even close to as common as most of the "non shifter" decks. It might just be Tenpai who aren't as affected by shifter that has thrust it into the limelight lately for a "popular deck" that runs shifter 😅
Definitely "tenpai" hits. Shifter is also just another card that is super cringe in a best of 1 formar
I think as long as Tenpai's pack is in the shop, they aren't going to touch the deck in any meaningful way. They might when the next pack comes out.
I'm pretty sure the cards made unlimited were done so to clean up the banlist of power crept cards. With shifter, Snow, and Gamma being limited, I bet Tenpai will become more appealing to people who haven't pulled from the pack yet and help boost gem sales, to stay meta relevant.
I have to wonder if Prosperity's ban is because of stun decks since they aim to prevent Special Summoning, which means their extra deck is a free plus 1 for them. And of course Shifter becomes worse for stun as well. I know that's a big complaint from players too.
I definitely agree with the Tenpai thing, it's just getting a pretty long grace period for how strong the deck is xD
I do remember a time where I considered Trickstar's (as a fun play on my TriixstaR thing) and looked up a decklist, and one of the comments was like "if only our field spell wasn't limited" so I'm sure the Trickstar players are happy!
Prosperity ban hurts so many decks though which is why it's kinda sad, but it is a generally good card for either banishing ED mons, scouting for Ash etc so I guess we will have to see how the rest develops.. it just felt like Prosperity helped to play through what otherwise could be bricks (Bricktira being one of them lol)
shifter is a broken card & should be banned. this is a good thing.
I'm not gonna lie, I don't care much for the opinion that DShifter is necessary. DShifter has changed yugioh in such a negative way since its launch that it as well as links and pendulums made so many people I know quit the game.
To me, it's criminal that that card and Maxx C (/maxx c-type cards) have been let loose for as long as they have. Every single time I see Maxx c, Dimension Shifter, Barrier Statue, Skill Drain, Rivalry of Warlords, Legendary Karyuushin (From the Umi deck), There can only be one, etc resolve in master duel it genuinely makes me want to quit and sometimes I just close the game on the spot.
People I know quit because of links, but I came back because of links. Links is a simple enough feature that I wish it would have been links instead of Synchros that came first, it would be way more fleshed out.
Tenpai in my opinion is just the icing on the cake. I used to get so upset whenever I saw a Tenpai card that I scooped immediately, but honestly for me Yubel is more annoying. Whenever I see Tenpai I always use it as an opportunity to see if my deck can withstand a never-ending battle phase.
I am genuinely worried that Ryzeal that is coming out is going to be worse than Tenpai in terms of obsoleting too many old decks. I am hearing people tell me that it's common for Ryzeal end boards to have on average 8 destroy pops per turn. For factory line cards that is devastating and I hope I am wrong about it.
D-Shifter is a somewhat evil card, but as stated in the video, I enjoy the decks that can abuse it since this meta is pretty bad. If the meta wasn't "toss all this to the grave, 17 effects occur" or "watch me link climb to 6+ unaffected/omni negate link monsters using hand/field/GY" it would probably be a lot less prevalent as a strategy - the entire meta in my experience is "im gonna go first, and I have tailored my deck to make it so my opponent cant play on their turn/I can negate 12 times before I need to worry + I have maxx c and ash and imperm ready" - which also explains Tenpais popularity imo
I agree with you on basically "stun" cards + maxx c (obviously I don't quite agree with d-shifter but thats just me) - but again I can't hate the players, I have to choose to hate Konami for the choices they make.. They nerf SOME stun cards every so often but there are so many that it ends up being pretty void for the most part..
For me its pendulum, as cool as the mechanic seems, I just cant wrap my head around it xD luckily its not that popular that I ever face that many pendulum decks xD
Tenpai I'm sure will get a nerf at some point, it's also exceedingly boring to play (though it does quite heavily rely on the normal summon in my experience, but I have only played with it a handful of times)
I haven't seen or heard anything about Ryzeal, but at least for now its only in the OCG so it will likely be some time until we get in Master Duel - I'm expecting Fiendsmith to be "the thing" if I had to expect a "meta changing archetype" to come out in February 😅
@@TriixstarHD well to start, Ryzeal is a rank 4 xyz toolbox that special summons a lot per turn like Salamangreat, and can also negate effects even through chain blocks with its field spell.
it has a rank-4 XYZ that has a varying number of materials that (not once per turn) can detach to pop cards on the field indiscriminately.
I always had this suggestion, but yugioh master duel should have a real duel mode where both players have 120-200 seconds to setup their board (where you cant affect your opponent during this period) before a coin flips and the first person to go is chosen.
It would eliminate the need to prevent first turn attacks (which already doesnt make sense) and would open the door to more lenient normal summoning rules being implemented, which would fix a lot of old decks' problems as well.
Shifter is an extremely unhealthy card for the game. Regardless how you slice it. There are bad decks that lose to it. They dint get a 2 lingering floodgate crutch. The cards terrible for the game