If Kwesi can get better at drafting he will be a top GM. He has hit on FAs, UDFAs, etc which is a good sign. KOC was the right hire as well, he is a top 5 coach in the NFL and idc what anyone says.
@@t.j.richardson8446 yeah buddy let’s throw racism into the mix not the fact that his first draft was a huge bust and he looked like a clown when he traded down 20 spots for a bum safety that couldn’t even sniff the field
@Valkyrie-p7y GTFOHWTBS! Get over the 1st draft. Name a GM that hasn't had a bad draft. Rick drafted a TON of bums. But was the GM for what felt like 20. yrs. Ppl like you were calling for the firing of Kwesi his first sean. His first draft was like, 900+ days ago! Get da fugg over it.
I actually do remember some comments saying once Darnold started he wouldn’t never be taken out, implying he would be the Vikings QB for the foreseeable future.
I think the Pack still belong ahead of us, unless and until we seal the deal against them in two weeks. There is something about our first win against them, early in the year, with a hobbled Love, that just doesn't sit right. Let's see how Love handles US Bank, and we handle Watson and Doubs on the outside. I think their Oline is skilled enough (and ours deficient), and Jacobs will open up some passing lanes. La Fleur is O'Connell's equal in coaching, and our game is just not clean enough. Just an observation.
I think there's a lot more than luck here. The Wilfs are great owners, and they've built up a great organization from the Red McCombs era, that makes people want to take the job. This is not the Jets/Browns/Giants/Panthers/etc. KOC basically wanted to come here... and really nowhere else
Ummm... kwesi brought the brown to the MN Browns. Name 1 starter that they have drafted besides from "let's get paid" who wont get a 2nd contract with mn...
The Panthers almost beat the Eagles on the road if not for a dropped TD pass at the end of the game with less than a minute left. The Commanders are tough, they could easily beat the Eagles.
Dysfunction in the franchise for eagles? They won a superbowl in recent memory. They are just having coaching issues. But they are still winning haha. I want the vikings to be better than eagles, but i don't see it.
I listened to a podcast or something called chgo last night after the game. They were talking about how they know Ben Johnson would fail there. I mean, you still gotta try right? You can’t keep hiring and firing idiots.
He spent a chunk of 2025 draft capital to land Dallas Turner and McCarthy. Luckily, they get Blackmon and NaJee Thompson and Taki Taimani back, along with McCarthy.
@@RedTideRTS The 2024 Draft is mostly potential at this point. And it turns out that the Reichard pick could have been used for another position of need and they would have been fine with Parker Romo. Khyree Jackson isn't Kwesi's fault but it's another pick that won't help get to a Super Bowl.
I totally agree. I think his 3rd draft may have been a turning point, but we’ll see in a few years no doubt. But he’s been navigating and building the team incredibly well outside of that.
@ Always bad when you get a draft that gives you absolutely nothing. Plenty of new GMs have come in and still did something with there first draft without their scouts
In regards to the game versus the Bears last night, (2nd meet up in 2024) And i also want to say i didn't go back and look this up first but, that was the 1st time O'Connell had Darnold throw over 40 times in a regular 4 quarters right? Think he was testing the waters for the playoffs and more dynamic creativity going forward?
How about we actually win something before you tell me how great everyone is. This year's most likely scenario is the Vikings finish as the 5th seed and promptly lose on the road in LA or Tampa Bay. This may be a bit pessimistic, but 51 years of Vikings fandom will do this to you.
@@19eightyforeisnow Nah I gave up on that old. “Well at least I get to see one more game this year” scenario a long time ago. As a hard-core Viking fan for about 40 years, it’s Super Bowl or bust for me.
These guys haven't even proved that they can be competitive in the playoffs, and you want to handcuff this organization to them for another four years? We haven't beat a team with a winning record (Green Bay 9/29) in almost three months! The Wilf's said we would compete for championships with these guys, we can't even compete in a wild card game! C'mon man!
He needs some help; e.g. a frontline OC who can either help with play calling, or strategy & game managing. The weight of the responsibilities he has taken on will eventually catch up to him, once the honeymoon of the first contract is over.
they are NOT brilliant!!! They should have seen and/or at least found out that zimmer had the maturity level of a 5 yr old aka a BAD Attitude problem. Which i/we have found out is the REASON it took him so long to land a head coaches job. It was known league wide! Zimmer did not do a bad job overall, at the end yes. All the years the wilfs followed the giants and wanted to emmulate them, yet learned NOTHING!! Upon entering the league the wilfs did NOT know and understand exactly what they were getting into. Heck, maybe they still do not? I wouldn't know unless I heard them discuss certain issues that are the MOST OBVIOUS about the nfl. IFFF at this point they still do not have a clue of the Number 1 problem with the nfl (when it comes to running a team, as an owner), then we ALL should pray that koc and kwesi are the real deal. KOC, looks good thus far, but he Still has a lot to prove about running a business. That first year mistake of NOT firing Ed by at least the 12th game was a big mistake. How big we shall Never know because we obviously will never know what would have happened had he replaced him before the playoffs. Oh well. BUT, that is what concerns me about KOC, his ability to Recognize and take control of a situation IMMEDIATELY by making WHAT EVER ADJUSTMENT(S) IS REQUIRED!! ALONG with Checking his Ego/Pride at the door! As previously stated (a couple years ago) the number 1 killer in the world that kills more people on a daily basis both Figuratively and Literally more then ANY singular disease - is EGO/PRIDE! One HUGE issue that could be our downfall is KOC's EGO to want to be this Mad Bomber design guy! Throw, throw, throw, bombs away! We all know that Yes, defense wins championships, BUT, a really Good - Great running game can Help your team almost/just as much. Simply because it keeps your defense FRESH!!!! So when the 4th quarter rolls around in a tight game, Your Starting defensive guys can go FULL throttle to shut top teams down. Oh, and the vikings defense is going to be put into positions to have to do that - they FAILED against the lions on that LAST drive:(:( Kwesi, well, hmmm? He is doing better, but he is going to have to prove himself more so. As we all pretty much know that he BLEW the ENTIRE 22 draft:(:( I think it was the 22 draft? With limited picks next year and PROBLEMS on BOTH the Defensive/Offensive Interior lines, plus the secondary Kwesi is simply going to have to HIT it BIG to Prove himself!!! UDFA's have been good, aahhh draft not so:( Good Luck for ALL OF US and Our Blood Pressures, lol, seriously! Take Care Guys!
The coach is soft the GM don't know what he's doing you guys got no good pics next year in 3 years both will be fired and will be rinse and repeat like we've been for 60 plus years
If Kwesi can get better at drafting he will be a top GM. He has hit on FAs, UDFAs, etc which is a good sign. KOC was the right hire as well, he is a top 5 coach in the NFL and idc what anyone says.
Get Rick Spielman as a consultant
Being really good at FA and UDFA signings and mediocre at drafting is still 2/3 better than Rick speilman ever was.
Extensions now!
I love you guys 💜
It's crazy how ppl still hold Kwesi's first draft over his head & we're 12-2 with all the ppl he signed.
It's more to why ppl dont like Kwesi🤔🤔🤔
You wanna know why? He's a black dude. When he got hired a ton of people called him a DEI hire or an affirmative action hire.
How many of those picks from the first draft are starting? How many are even still with the team?
@@t.j.richardson8446 yeah buddy let’s throw racism into the mix not the fact that his first draft was a huge bust and he looked like a clown when he traded down 20 spots for a bum safety that couldn’t even sniff the field
3 drafts have produced 2 starters and Ed Ingram. He has signed some good free agents, but we are the 5th oldest team in the league.
@Valkyrie-p7y
GTFOHWTBS! Get over the 1st draft. Name a GM that hasn't had a bad draft. Rick drafted a TON of bums. But was the GM for what felt like 20. yrs. Ppl like you were calling for the firing of Kwesi his first sean. His first draft was like, 900+ days ago! Get da fugg over it.
Looking good so far 🤞🍀!!
From these comments in here you would think the Vikings were barely scraping by to put together a .500 season.
I actually do remember some comments saying once Darnold started he wouldn’t never be taken out, implying he would be the Vikings QB for the foreseeable future.
2025 free agent needs:
C, OG, S, CB
2025 draft needs:
DT, RB, LB
The Lions are not decimated. The meaning of decimate is literally to reduce by 10%...it's actually much worse than that for them.
That's the historical definition, not the accepted definition of today.
Vikings 2025 Draft needs: C , RB , LB , G ,CB
S too if Metellus leaves
"Draft needs"... how bout just get 1 pick right. Just 1 lmfao
IMO an overlooked aspect of the Kwesi/KOC hirings is the VIkings weren't going to allow themselves to get rushed into either decision
I think the Pack still belong ahead of us, unless and until we seal the deal against them in two weeks. There is something about our first win against them, early in the year, with a hobbled Love, that just doesn't sit right. Let's see how Love handles US Bank, and we handle Watson and Doubs on the outside. I think their Oline is skilled enough (and ours deficient), and Jacobs will open up some passing lanes. La Fleur is O'Connell's equal in coaching, and our game is just not clean enough. Just an observation.
Agree, the Pack are playing really well now. 1. Buffalo 2. Eagles 3. Lions 4. Chiefs 5. Packers 6. Vikings. Don't be fooled by records.
Ah, no. They do not belong above the Vikings. They have no chance to win the division. The Vikings could still be the #1 seed.
I think there's a lot more than luck here. The Wilfs are great owners, and they've built up a great organization from the Red McCombs era, that makes people want to take the job. This is not the Jets/Browns/Giants/Panthers/etc. KOC basically wanted to come here... and really nowhere else
Ummm... kwesi brought the brown to the MN Browns. Name 1 starter that they have drafted besides from "let's get paid" who wont get a 2nd contract with mn...
When Judd says you have no people skills….WOW!
Did judd not mentions the bucs?
You get what the leadership makes. Luck does not exist
We got blessed with them 😁
The Panthers almost beat the Eagles on the road if not for a dropped TD pass at the end of the game with less than a minute left. The Commanders are tough, they could easily beat the Eagles.
I think poles wanted to get rid of cousins and go full reset
Dysfunction in the franchise for eagles? They won a superbowl in recent memory. They are just having coaching issues. But they are still winning haha. I want the vikings to be better than eagles, but i don't see it.
I listened to a podcast or something called chgo last night after the game. They were talking about how they know Ben Johnson would fail there. I mean, you still gotta try right? You can’t keep hiring and firing idiots.
The Bills are #1 with that defense? D'okay.
Dodged a bullett with poles
We can’t claim KOC as better than Childress or Zimmer until he makes it to the NFCC.
Not with drafting. Kwesi has not done well with that part, but the other parts he has been good.
He spent a chunk of 2025 draft capital to land Dallas Turner and McCarthy.
Luckily, they get Blackmon and NaJee Thompson and Taki Taimani back, along with McCarthy.
BS
He had one draft that always gets attention. And it’s not a valid data point anymore.
@@RedTideRTS The 2024 Draft is mostly potential at this point.
And it turns out that the Reichard pick could have been used for another position of need and they would have been fine with Parker Romo.
Khyree Jackson isn't Kwesi's fault but it's another pick that won't help get to a Super Bowl.
I totally agree. I think his 3rd draft may have been a turning point, but we’ll see in a few years no doubt.
But he’s been navigating and building the team incredibly well outside of that.
@ Always bad when you get a draft that gives you absolutely nothing. Plenty of new GMs have come in and still did something with there first draft without their scouts
We can beat Philly. I know we can beat any NfC team actually. Whether they do or not…we will see
I mean 4 weeks ago I was hearing how this could be kwesi last year koc play calling is trash lol
The Eagles are easily the best team in the NFL right now. Even though I can’t stand them.
The complaints about play-calling are appropriate.
It's bad in several ways.
Trick plays that reduce or eliminate the chance of points.
In regards to the game versus the Bears last night, (2nd meet up in 2024)
And i also want to say i didn't go back and look this up first but, that was the 1st time O'Connell had Darnold throw over 40 times in a regular 4 quarters right? Think he was testing the waters for the playoffs and more dynamic creativity going forward?
Defense wins championships. Just think about how the vikes have lost in the playoffs.
Bills can't be #1, their defense is horrible.
How about we actually win something before you tell me how great everyone is. This year's most likely scenario is the Vikings finish as the 5th seed and promptly lose on the road in LA or Tampa Bay. This may be a bit pessimistic, but 51 years of Vikings fandom will do this to you.
You’re not measuring them properly against their expectations at the start of the year
@@champagnetravi My expectations at the beginning of every year is a Super Bowl win. They have yet to ever meet my expectations.
@@26point2madnessif your expectation starting this year was a Super Bowl win, you’re truly delusional. Just enjoy the games man
@@19eightyforeisnow Nah I gave up on that old. “Well at least I get to see one more game this year” scenario a long time ago. As a hard-core Viking fan for about 40 years, it’s Super Bowl or bust for me.
Can the Vikings beat the Eagles?
The Rams have been climbing out of the point-differential hole.
Digging gets you deeper.
Kwesi needs to hire top scouts as he clearly cant identify talent
Given the fact that JJ McCarthy is a bust this season what do we do with Slingin’ Sammy D next season ?
These guys haven't even proved that they can be competitive in the playoffs, and you want to handcuff this organization to them for another four years? We haven't beat a team with a winning record (Green Bay 9/29) in almost three months! The Wilf's said we would compete for championships with these guys, we can't even compete in a wild card game! C'mon man!
I expect O'Connell to be like Bud.
Lots of postseasons, zero SB championships.
Nice guys don't finish last, or first.
Bud was outcoached in the last game of every season.
And then he happily went hunting.
come on buddy...you need to say new stuff so people don't catch on so easily
@@OliverPantsoff I want you to share your opinions about the topic, but you care more about me.
He needs some help; e.g. a frontline OC who can either help with play calling, or strategy & game managing. The weight of the responsibilities he has taken on will eventually catch up to him, once the honeymoon of the first contract is over.
@@leonardshevlin7260 no...i think you are a clown and you continue to prove me right
WE WANT RANDY
WE WANT RANDY
WE WANT RANDY
they are NOT brilliant!!! They should have seen and/or at least found out that zimmer had the maturity level of a 5 yr old aka a BAD Attitude problem. Which i/we have found out is the REASON it took him so long to land a head coaches job. It was known league wide!
Zimmer did not do a bad job overall, at the end yes.
All the years the wilfs followed the giants and wanted to emmulate them, yet learned NOTHING!!
Upon entering the league the wilfs did NOT know and understand exactly what they were getting into. Heck, maybe they still do not? I wouldn't know unless I heard them discuss certain issues that are the MOST OBVIOUS about the nfl. IFFF at this point they still do not have a clue of the Number 1 problem with the nfl (when it comes to running a team, as an owner), then we ALL should pray that koc and kwesi are the real deal.
KOC, looks good thus far, but he Still has a lot to prove about running a business. That first year mistake of NOT firing Ed by at least the 12th game was a big mistake. How big we shall Never know because we obviously will never know what would have happened had he replaced him before the playoffs.
Oh well. BUT, that is what concerns me about KOC, his ability to Recognize and take control of a situation IMMEDIATELY by making WHAT EVER ADJUSTMENT(S) IS REQUIRED!! ALONG with Checking his Ego/Pride at the door! As previously stated (a couple years ago) the number 1 killer in the world that kills more people on a daily basis both Figuratively and Literally more then ANY singular disease - is EGO/PRIDE!
One HUGE issue that could be our downfall is KOC's EGO to want to be this Mad Bomber design guy! Throw, throw, throw, bombs away! We all know that Yes, defense wins championships, BUT, a really Good - Great running game can Help your team almost/just as much. Simply because it keeps your defense FRESH!!!! So when the 4th quarter rolls around in a tight game, Your Starting defensive guys can go FULL throttle to shut top teams down. Oh, and the vikings defense is going to be put into positions to have to do that - they FAILED against the lions on that LAST drive:(:(
Kwesi, well, hmmm? He is doing better, but he is going to have to prove himself more so. As we all pretty much know that he BLEW the ENTIRE 22 draft:(:( I think it was the 22 draft?
With limited picks next year and PROBLEMS on BOTH the Defensive/Offensive Interior lines, plus the secondary Kwesi is simply going to have to HIT it BIG to Prove himself!!! UDFA's have been good, aahhh draft not so:(
Good Luck for ALL OF US and Our Blood Pressures, lol, seriously!
Take Care Guys!
Ya havent done anything lmfao
The coach is soft the GM don't know what he's doing you guys got no good pics next year in 3 years both will be fired and will be rinse and repeat like we've been for 60 plus years
Get out of here troll