Lots of people going to be upset with this video, these were just our findings. Also the cat might be out of the bag when it comes to the secret. at the time no one had published pictures of the secret in this video, happy internet searching ;)
Upshmett shmuppshett, I bought HDO's and rapidfire like a week before these got announced, for around the same price... Is what it is, and the experience the HDO's have given me has been some of the most fulfilling, epic times so... Again, that's the way the cookie crumbled. If I had my money again I'd probably go DJI but then again, now i'm starting to race and fly with others it's important to have analogue, and to be able to tune into others feeds, so I'd get these over the HDO's. As always thanks for the time and efforts put into the review, worthy of crew thinking about diving into the mix, for sure. Cheers mate, shred on!
Don't feel too bad, plenty of people have light leak and fitment issues with the HDO2. Im using RF and HDO's as well, and will be for a good long time. They're not gonna be outclassed by cheaper alternatives for a bit still in my opinion.
I love my Fatshark HDO2’s! The clarity and adjustable circular lenses are game changers imo!!! I fly long-range so I’m still all for analog and not even remotely considering the DJI digital HD FPV.
I recently bought the fatshark HDO2s with rapidfire and am delighted with the fit and value for money. Reason, because it's the best analogue goggle combo on the market today. With a Newbeedrone comfort foam it makes a massive difference in fit and comfort. Happy flying.
Stew, I'm a long follower of your channel and a Patreon too and again, I'm a bit disapointed by your biased approach of FS products versus others ... you often/always did it, just because of their price. FS are pricy, they always did and we know it but that's one of the few company that gave and still give us top of the notch goggles. That's expensive ok, if you can't afford it you have plenty solutions now but if you can, you'll have a very good product with a good after sale service. Honestly , watch your video again and look at the face of your fellows, look at the smiles on their faces, they say a lot. cheers Stew
I get that the fitment wasn’t right for you and some people’s eyelashes rub, but for $10 you can put the thicker NBD foam on and potentially address both issues. Both Botgrinder and Bardwell did that and it took care of it. I agree - for the price, better foam and a more substantial head strap should come included, but it would be helpful to see if your biggest complaints about the product would be remedied if you spent a measly extra $20-30 to address them. Regardless - appreciate your honesty. Cheers!
I love my 03o’s, I used to have hdo’s which weren’t the best. I fly mainly with dji digital but every time I go back to the 03o’s (analog) I’m blown away by how close they are to even the digital in the quality, and the reception is great, not too far off rapid fire and the picture doesn’t scroll like it does with the rapid fire, which l hate! Buy the 03o’s
I ended up sending mine back after the 3rd manufacturer defect so I picked up a dji with a dockking but I will say skyzones customer service was top notch!!
Couple of things to note: HDO2 are now shipping with 2 thicknesses of foam to stop eyelashes hitting lenses plus if you need eye sight correction the diopter adjustment is amazing. If neither supplied foams stop eyelash issue there is thicker foams out there. Only issue for me is dvr being worse than my eachines ev100 add on dvr and it doesn't chop recordings into small chunks. So if you crash you have to watch back over lots of mins to find crash section. Also the screens are 4:3 resolution, they will do 16:9 but it leaves black bars top and bottom!
Good summary. Lack of diopter support in the HDO2's was a killer for me which is why I went 03O's despite being a hard-core racer. +4/+6 prescription with astigmatism, the inbuild adjustment is not enough. I will be adding a rapidfire to the 03O's for race days. 03O's DVR will record AV-IN so it will record the rapidfire when added (checked this before getting the skyzones). Also DVR in HDO2's is poor (even when it does work).
you did indeed, i have attitude v3, amazing goggle. same thing but you have dvr in the goggles and its red lol. I have a dvr hooked up to it, so its basically the same. Its an amazing goggle, had it for like 4 years now
I got my DJI Goggles setup, there is no comparison. It almost makes you emotional as your dream of what you thought FPV would be, becomes. I cant wait to throw some hours on them this weekend. I am buying a second pair as well for viewing and joint flying.
Agreed still waiting on the analog rapid fire and parts to come it to try that part out but very hard for me to figure out what I wanted head set wise . But I'm glad I went with the DJI system little bit more money but wow
Got dji fpv goggles and i have no interest in going back to analog ever. My only issue with them is not being able to turn the fan off but ill take em apart and hook up a switch to the fan sometime when im bored
Right after I upgraded from EV800D to HDO (which was a huge jump in quality, very noticeable) the DJI goggles came out. I sold my HDOs and all my analog quads and bought the DJI setup and a 6in Armattan Badger plus a Transtec Beetle with the DJI air unit. The DJI system is so, so much better than analog, it's insane.
DJI goggles are $529 US (not $630 as mentioned in the video) if bought outside the packages. That includes four antennas and a built-in module. It is a much better value for money than HDO2 + rapid fire, not to mention all the advantages of digital HD video.
Stu you rock thanks for keeping things real and opinionated. I bought a second pare of Aomway commander v1s because of you. What can I say I love them and almost prefer them to my hdo's. So much cheaper, lighter and comfier.
I got my hdo's the day the hdo2 were announced. Oh well, i like them alot. I have prescription diopters and the newbeedrone foam. The dvr isnt the best but it gets the job done. Im sticking with them especially after coming from 80 dollar box goggles.
OMG, my new HD02's kick my Dom V3's arse!!! Holy cow!!! Big, bright panels, the fit is awesome (once I removed the pad "shims"), etc. So glad I upgraded. Connected to my PC, via HDMI, and sim'ed for quite a while. THAT'S when I understood how to dial in the optics to my eyes. Holy cow ... AGAIN!!! Like staring at another flat-panel monitor. BTW, I'm 54 now and use +1.75 reading glasses. Since these go to +2.00, they're exactly what I needed. I'm ready for a Shark Byte system now!! Collecting aluminum cans as we speak. 😂.
Don't forget to take diope lens -2, -4, -6. Thoses lens solves factory made issues of bad lens. For me, putting -4 lens solved many issues with my fatshark. Even if i was able to see clear inside, the edge was fogged without -4 lens.
I'm thankful to have reviewers like you that can compare goggles and give us as much information as you can before we make a purchase. What really had my attention was that top-secret transmitter. Not sure if the hex code at the end was correct or not but I keep getting "Enter some text here to be converted to hexadecimal" and it made me laugh. I really hope this is the Radiomaster TX16s but I'll just have to wait and see...
@@ItsBlunty d'oh...had to watch a second time to catch it..was working on a quad while watching and he must have said it at a moment of extreme brain matter usage...
Based just on the adjustable focus getting rid of blurry edges and the fact that I don't have to use my custom inserts. My hdo2s are hands down my favorite goggle. And the fitment and eyelashes thing was fixed with newbeedrone foam. Which yea is aftermarket but its 10 bucks :/
i like the fatshark / apple comparison, if you already have fatsharks you will already have the receiver and antenna parts and you can sell the rest on, i tried a set of HD2's and HDO's and for the money it wasn't worth the upgrade from my Dom V2's which really suit my eyes, these HDO 2's with the individual focus without diopters could be a game changer though for me. they should also re visit the strap, something like a gopro strap with a 3rd band over the top of the head would be great so you don't need so much tension on the side 2, but these goggles with an immersion. RC powerplay could be a winner.
All future proofed here with the DJI FPV Googles....though, did just try the FatSharks earlier today and they'll get the job done too....thanks for the review Stew!
Just a heads up for those worried about the thin face pad. I use my thick aftermarket pad from my HD3s and it gets your face far enough away from the goggles that they are comfortable. Stu try a thicker face pad and let us know if it works for you:) Sounds like you said new radio but you can't talk about it. Now that we know it's a radio can you tell us who's radio :)
still using my eachine ev200d, ive had them since they came out, running archilles plus, and the screens are perfect size and reaally high res. Deffo good buy 👍👍
@@nighthawkz5284 is there any overheating issues or any other issues bcuz I want a pair but reading reviews saying dont believe RUclips reviewers...I'm turn between these and the HDO
I use the strongest diopters for my (very) old Fatshark Dom' V2's. Do the HDO's have the ability to focus without diopters? (same question for the DJI)
Coming from the Eachine EV800d I went to the HDO2. While I must say I am not an avid racer, I am still glad I got them. Was it a big purchase? Oh absolutely!! But so far I am enjoying them compared to the Eachine.
If you have good vision - read no glasses, old age, different dioptry/barrel.. on each eye.. then yep i can agree with most you said, too expensive, lenses touching eyelashes .. but .. there is one big but here, if you need focusing capability of these glasses, then there is almost no competition, only eachines as i know of - and they aren't really in same quality bracket.. so for me when i got hdo2's it was like i could finally see, now i can see that most of my cameras are out of focus, for me the money was really well spent and i just love them. Will try to get thicker foams when they show up, since old ones from my hd3's are not really compatible (bigger nose cut on hdo2s i guess) and hopefully that will also alleviate eyelash issues but i can live with that. What i would really like to see is 3d mode on hdmi input (yep i've connected them to pc, and they are usable even to work with ... ;) and better DVR. Since hdmi input is there and it works (didn't test lag yet, but mouse and window movements were ok, no ghosting or such - and i usually use 144Hz monitor) i would say these are also HD friendly when that becomes more popular. Considering that with DJI you're carrying box goggles with extra added weight of analog receiver i guess hdo2s with some future HD external module and hdmi cable link might be even lighter and smaller than current dji config for both analog and hd. Of course dji is here and now, we're still waiting for small hd receivers ;)
My buddy has a pair of these and honestly can't stand them. He has super sensitive eyes and can notice something that most people don't. To reveal this to us normal eyed humans. Record close up footage of the screens of the HDO2's taken with a sportcam, record in NTSC and have the fpv feed in PAL. The differing framerates enable you to see just how badly it deinterlaced the incoming analouge FPV feed is. The image will continually jump up/down by a single (analogue) pixel. Something you won't see on LCD baced goggles. So basically if you're a gamer and/or can notice the difference in high frame rate monitors....these may not be for you.
A hundred dollar difference is not that much for such an important part of FPV IMO when you look at the time line length of use and other costs involved flying FPV over time.... you probably won't lose or crash you googles and better visibility can save an expensive model from a power line or small branch. For models under 250 grams and even above that the analog FPV system is here to stay quite a while longer and the FS HDO2 is King with it's larger FOV and added adjustments over the original HDO IF your eyes can handle a larger FOV than 30-35 degrees. Everyone's eyes are different so try before you buy if you can rather than listen to what works for someone else. And remember it's hard to beat Fat Sharks customer service should you need it. I'm only a fanboy for whatever works best for me and Fat Shark has my respect from earning it time and again. I've lost more money in parts collecting dust due to poor QC over the years than what I spent on my goggles that's for sure.
@@logo8009 i switched the to soft foam and the light leaks are gone and with all the new updates there is only lag way beyond where i was flying my analog setup.
Those radiomaster tx16’s radios are basically the same as the jumpert16 pro, made by one of the guys from jumper who decided to go his own way. Virtually the same, except that the new ones have outside charging capability, otherwise identical, and they Amy even be cheaper.
I am currently looking for my first set of goggles and have watched a large number of reviews. They all lead me to the same conclusion. Are the FatShark Hdo2's a good goggle? Yes. Do they cost too much? Yes!!! $500 for a non-functioning set of goggles that need a new receiver, new antennas to even function. Then they need a new strap, and new foam to make them fit properly, for seemingly most people. So, you are now up to somewhere around $700. SkyZone O3O = $400 and they function and fit. The point is, this is unreasonable to expect from any customer base. Though they will look nice laying next to your new $1200 Apple phone!🤣🤣🤣
If sky zones were 300 I'd agree but 100$ difference isn't really worth it to justify considering byte frost HD for fat shark an in worse case a VTX burning out in a set of sky zone goggles, IDK 500 vs 400 so I can have open soure hardware support an state side product replacement yea I'm going FATSHARK baby!
My kiss v2 25A 4 in 1 build everything works including the camera, vtx, osd, and receiver but none of the motors spin. I also dont get any beeps when I plug in the battery but I do get lights from everything and I connected to the kiss gui and flashed to the newest esc and fc firmware. Any suggestions or answers please help.
Just thinking about FPV for fixed wing flying. That would be so COOL! But I’m so freakin LOST. Thinking of the HDO2, but trying to figure out what I need, how it all goes together.... 🤦🏻♂️ Thinking about getting an Eflite Convergence, and maybe even rig up one of my Hornets. Would like airspeed data. How does THAT fit in the equation??
I fly with a simple 7" Eachine FPV monitor, which sits on a really simple metal bracket that I have mounted on the back of my Taranis X7. I would love to get a goggle, but partly I am very much a beginner and partly I fly very little due to familiy duties. So dishing out 600+ USD is not really an option. The Skyzone would probably be the golden holy grail for me, even the Attitude V5 would be probably just perfect. I cannot test them, so I don't know whether they fit my huge face. So I continue watching reviews and wait...
Dom v3's have served me well for the last 4 years, with a true-d 3.9, No long term issues, comfy, no light leak, 16:9. Have no wanting to change to anything newer, or even digital. Yes I have tried dji, I very much dislike the camera on the dji air unit. Yeah it looks ok, but its no gopro. Thats does it right there. No one has come out with a different camera for the air unit. It would be nice if you could choose between different camera's. The camera is what gets to me, also the size of the googles. When I have them on I can see light leak city, and it litteraly feels I'm putting on a bike helmet.
lol..true story (hope my brother ain't reading this)..When we were kids one of the aunt's commented on how long and pretty my brothers eyelashes were.She really shouldn't have used the word "pretty" as he took scissors to them the next day.Really wasn't noticeable until they grew back...much longer...lol..
Hi Stew Great video and review of the Fatshark Googles and the DJI Google system. I haven't been in the FPV World very long and when I started 2 years ago I couldn't purchase fatshark Googles and so I started with a set of Eachine EV800d and then I won a pair of Aomways commander V1 and I have been flying with them since. My only complaint is that the IPD could go out two more clicks, now I have been saving up for a new set of goggles and I have been looking at the SKYZONE 030 and now that I have only one complaint is that the skyzone can't take a outer module or maybe we can ? And on the DJI system I can't afford to spend the money on a new set of goggles and then purchase a module. But the DJI system you are looking at $150 dollars in each of the quads just for a camera and VTX. So I'm staying with the Skyzone. Thanks again for the information.
I like the new focus options and ipd adjustment but the hdo2s give me a headache. My eyes are always straining with the fov even when I set it to 16:9 with 4:3 camera. I also find them uncomfortable and how about a fan that doesn't turn off?
Ok DAMN !!! I bought HDO's, and now they suck !!! I gotta agree with your total assessment .Even though I bought HDO's last season, if I had to do it again, I would buy Skyzones. The receivers were a pain, I have no use for Rapidfire ( I'm not a crazy long range, video nut, or racer, or rich ).OLED is the thing, and when I bought mine , they were the only ones. Resale is not worth the return, so I'll just stick with what I got , and be happy.. I do have to say my set have worked flawlessly, for over a year, with less than gentle treatment. Fatshark is just way behind the curve.
100 bucks isnt alot more for fatsharks compared to Skyzones. You dont HAVE to get rapidfire, cheap Achilles is also an option. And dont forget there's practically no customer support for skyzone. All that for 100 bucks less. edit: i have the ev200d so i'm not defending a fatshark purchase :)
Change the source. You may be in HDMI or something. I had that too. I dont remember which button. Try pressing some of the joysticks (not move, press), and then press some buttons :D
Comfort is really very personal. For my face it is even more comfortable than Skyzones 03O. No lash contact. In same time DJI Goggles have terrible fit :( And this fact stops from buying them. Dream of some DJI compatible ground station with HDMI output :)
I'm still rocking the aomway commander v1s. Albeit hooked up to a groundstation running a tbs fusion. I am debating on upgrading to the DJI and the groundstation for digital HD.
Super secret ayyyye?!? Obviously a transmitter...... and the only one coming out soon is the TBS Tango 2. Look forward to seeing it and its small form factor over the original
Fatshark... Probably one of the last brands id buy. It's like Apple, overpriced gear that met high standards years ago, but not anymore... with plenty of things arguably equivalent available cheaper.
The HDO2 would be worth it if they cost the same as the Fatshark Scout does right now. And the Fatshark Scout should cost as much as the Fatshark Recon V3. The Recon V3 should cost roughly 15 to 20 bucks more than the makerfire goggles.
I fly HD3's with a laforge internal install that's as old as the fatsharks along with an original LHCP pepperbox directly mounted on the goggles, if it works don't fix it unless you have the money to waste 💸 🥃 cheers 🍻
Man, Now i don't know what to do!! I wanted to get these HDO2 but like you said it's quite expensive. I also want to use the TBS Fusion module which I have already.. Tell me what to do Stu!
I totally agree with that the foam is, they both are absolutely crap. I sticked my uruav grey foam on from hd3s and thats lot better. Them moon shaped foams by lens are useless. I have removed them and had no issues with light or whatever apart from they dont wiggle around my eye lashes anymore so take it as a positive side of it xd
please start blurring "super secret stuff" rather than a huge box, that along with the bad DVR which had to be mixed vin post and could not make it past 50% into the video
As someone thinking about getting into the hobby, never tried analog or digital, and not bothered by the price of DJI FPV, the video signal of analog looks horrible and turns me off from the hobby. I need HD video to be interested in the sport. DJI FPV is it for me. Am I wrong?
To be fair, the analog setups look a lot better in person than they do on RUclips. That being said, I had analog setups for a couple years and while they were a blast, I've sold it all off and gone fully to the DJI setup. It looks way better.
Never had problems from my analog setups. I'm even using the cheapest parts out there with Eachine TX805 VTX. Never experienced any bad reception. But maybe because I fly mainly on fields with couple of trees. Never on concretes.
I don't see the point of a power button. You still have to plug the battery in and a power button is another point of failure. Pushing a power button is an extra step.
If someone who have or try both sky03O and HDO2 can tell me if the HDO2 have better quality image than the skyzone sky03O. The sky03O have a sharp and clean image ( not like the blurry HDO1 that i have). HDO1 was a waste of money , i regret my buying(very happy with the sky03O). Does it worth the upgrade from sky03O to HDO2?
How much do the screens fill your vision with the 03O's? Is it like sitting at the back of a cinema or do they appear closer? Really wanting a pair. Dont know whether to get them or hang tight..
@@kudzy11 I think is back of a cinema. But it's enough. I can say you that you will be happy with this goggle. The image is amazing for analog. Perhaps the HDO2 is good. But i don't know. Think that you see a image that was processing by the goggles. This is the reason why the sky03O is good. There's no reason for me to buy a goggles if the image is blurry like the crap of HDO1. Look to every review of the HDO1. People will tell you how great is HDO1. But don't thrust the fanboys try by yourself the goggle you want to buy if you can. For the receiver look my channel. There's many good reviews on SKY03O.
The foam inside the hdo2 lens touches my eyelashes and makes my eyes teary. I'll stick with goggles with diopters. If Skyzone came with a module bay slot then there is no point buying this. The choice would be Orqas and 03o
I felt the same way about my skyzone 03 and my buddies hdo until I tried the Dji system. Honestly there’s no comparison in picture. Dji absolutely crushes the analog picture. Ended up switching to Dji but still kept my skyzones for my tiny whoops
Lots of people going to be upset with this video, these were just our findings. Also the cat might be out of the bag when it comes to the secret. at the time no one had published pictures of the secret in this video, happy internet searching ;)
dancing tango for the second time?
I couldn't be happier with my HDO2's. I can finally focus the screen to match my eyesight and what a difference it has made.
Did you somehow solve the eyelash issue?
Me to man, no issues with mine as well. Not even the eye lash stuff.
Guess our faces are just different hahaha
Newbee drone foams fixed mine. Luv em.
@@lionfreak_music -2 or -4 lens should solve your issue.
Love mine, true D-X holding it down! Not a big deal to switch from legacy mode. Can’t wait for the Byte Frost module.
Upshmett shmuppshett, I bought HDO's and rapidfire like a week before these got announced, for around the same price... Is what it is, and the experience the HDO's have given me has been some of the most fulfilling, epic times so... Again, that's the way the cookie crumbled. If I had my money again I'd probably go DJI but then again, now i'm starting to race and fly with others it's important to have analogue, and to be able to tune into others feeds, so I'd get these over the HDO's. As always thanks for the time and efforts put into the review, worthy of crew thinking about diving into the mix, for sure. Cheers mate, shred on!
Don't feel too bad, plenty of people have light leak and fitment issues with the HDO2. Im using RF and HDO's as well, and will be for a good long time. They're not gonna be outclassed by cheaper alternatives for a bit still in my opinion.
Mark my words: wait 9 months and you will be able to buy a digital receiver for your HDO.
Well? Digital receiver?
I bought third party foam and third party 2" (5cm) wide strap for my HDOs. Big difference. Much more comfortable. I'm happy with them.
I love my Fatshark HDO2’s! The clarity and adjustable circular lenses are game changers imo!!! I fly long-range so I’m still all for analog and not even remotely considering the DJI digital HD FPV.
I got free hdo2s and sent them back, I did not like them.
:O what?! no giveaway?
Respect man, respect.
You could curl your lashes brother?
@@kirbyfpv1969 i should try
@@BOTGRINDER haha that's my plan when they arrive !! That t-shirt should be with you soon !
Love my skyzones. Bought them because of this channel. Can not complain at all!
same sky02x
Same...awesome
@@TriMeX1987 same here.
Me too
03O here 💪💪💪
I recently bought the fatshark HDO2s with rapidfire and am delighted with the fit and value for money. Reason, because it's the best analogue goggle combo on the market today. With a Newbeedrone comfort foam it makes a massive difference in fit and comfort. Happy flying.
Stew, I'm a long follower of your channel and a Patreon too and again, I'm a bit disapointed by your biased approach of FS products versus others ... you often/always did it, just because of their price. FS are pricy, they always did and we know it but that's one of the few company that gave and still give us top of the notch goggles. That's expensive ok, if you can't afford it you have plenty solutions now but if you can, you'll have a very good product with a good after sale service. Honestly , watch your video again and look at the face of your fellows, look at the smiles on their faces, they say a lot. cheers Stew
I get that the fitment wasn’t right for you and some people’s eyelashes rub, but for $10 you can put the thicker NBD foam on and potentially address both issues. Both Botgrinder and Bardwell did that and it took care of it. I agree - for the price, better foam and a more substantial head strap should come included, but it would be helpful to see if your biggest complaints about the product would be remedied if you spent a measly extra $20-30 to address them. Regardless - appreciate your honesty. Cheers!
I love my 03o’s, I used to have hdo’s which weren’t the best. I fly mainly with dji digital but every time I go back to the 03o’s (analog) I’m blown away by how close they are to even the digital in the quality, and the reception is great, not too far off rapid fire and the picture doesn’t scroll like it does with the rapid fire, which l hate! Buy the 03o’s
Ordered my 03O’s last week...
Why pay more for analog right?
I ended up sending mine back after the 3rd manufacturer defect so I picked up a dji with a dockking but I will say skyzones customer service was top notch!!
@@GreenEyesFromGondor what defects did you encounter if I may ask?
Couple of things to note: HDO2 are now shipping with 2 thicknesses of foam to stop eyelashes hitting lenses plus if you need eye sight correction the diopter adjustment is amazing. If neither supplied foams stop eyelash issue there is thicker foams out there. Only issue for me is dvr being worse than my eachines ev100 add on dvr and it doesn't chop recordings into small chunks. So if you crash you have to watch back over lots of mins to find crash section. Also the screens are 4:3 resolution, they will do 16:9 but it leaves black bars top and bottom!
Good summary. Lack of diopter support in the HDO2's was a killer for me which is why I went 03O's despite being a hard-core racer. +4/+6 prescription with astigmatism, the inbuild adjustment is not enough.
I will be adding a rapidfire to the 03O's for race days. 03O's DVR will record AV-IN so it will record the rapidfire when added (checked this before getting the skyzones).
Also DVR in HDO2's is poor (even when it does work).
One click of the input button.... 4:3..... or 16:9...... you can have what you need.
Eyelash issue fixed with Newbeedrone Comfort Foam. Done.
I just bought a used pair of attitude v4's from a friend, cant wait until they get here. Hope i made the right choice.
you did indeed, i have attitude v3, amazing goggle. same thing but you have dvr in the goggles and its red lol. I have a dvr hooked up to it, so its basically the same. Its an amazing goggle, had it for like 4 years now
and i tried the hdo's, they are better, but honestly im not spending another 500 dollars for just a little better quality
I got my DJI Goggles setup, there is no comparison. It almost makes you emotional as your dream of what you thought FPV would be, becomes. I cant wait to throw some hours on them this weekend. I am buying a second pair as well for viewing and joint flying.
Agreed still waiting on the analog rapid fire and parts to come it to try that part out but very hard for me to figure out what I wanted head set wise . But I'm glad I went with the DJI system little bit more money but wow
Same dji is the best
Same here. Made the switch from sky zone 03 and it’s a night and day difference where you literally go “holy shit” multiple times
Got dji fpv goggles and i have no interest in going back to analog ever. My only issue with them is not being able to turn the fan off but ill take em apart and hook up a switch to the fan sometime when im bored
Right after I upgraded from EV800D to HDO (which was a huge jump in quality, very noticeable) the DJI goggles came out. I sold my HDOs and all my analog quads and bought the DJI setup and a 6in Armattan Badger plus a Transtec Beetle with the DJI air unit. The DJI system is so, so much better than analog, it's insane.
DJI goggles are $529 US (not $630 as mentioned in the video) if bought outside the packages. That includes four antennas and a built-in module. It is a much better value for money than HDO2 + rapid fire, not to mention all the advantages of digital HD video.
digital < analogue
Stu you rock thanks for keeping things real and opinionated. I bought a second pare of Aomway commander v1s because of you. What can I say I love them and almost prefer them to my hdo's. So much cheaper, lighter and comfier.
I got my hdo's the day the hdo2 were announced. Oh well, i like them alot. I have prescription diopters and the newbeedrone foam. The dvr isnt the best but it gets the job done. Im sticking with them especially after coming from 80 dollar box goggles.
OMG, my new HD02's kick my Dom V3's arse!!! Holy cow!!! Big, bright panels, the fit is awesome (once I removed the pad "shims"), etc. So glad I upgraded. Connected to my PC, via HDMI, and sim'ed for quite a while. THAT'S when I understood how to dial in the optics to my eyes. Holy cow ... AGAIN!!! Like staring at another flat-panel monitor. BTW, I'm 54 now and use +1.75 reading glasses. Since these go to +2.00, they're exactly what I needed. I'm ready for a Shark Byte system now!! Collecting aluminum cans as we speak. 😂.
Don't forget to take diope lens -2, -4, -6. Thoses lens solves factory made issues of bad lens. For me, putting -4 lens solved many issues with my fatshark. Even if i was able to see clear inside, the edge was fogged without -4 lens.
I'm thankful to have reviewers like you that can compare goggles and give us as much information as you can before we make a purchase. What really had my attention was that top-secret transmitter. Not sure if the hex code at the end was correct or not but I keep getting "Enter some text here to be converted to hexadecimal" and it made me laugh. I really hope this is the Radiomaster TX16s but I'll just have to wait and see...
You're not the first reviewer that had eyelash contact.Botgrinder just about had a fit with his
@@ItsBlunty d'oh...had to watch a second time to catch it..was working on a quad while watching and he must have said it at a moment of extreme brain matter usage...
Based just on the adjustable focus getting rid of blurry edges and the fact that I don't have to use my custom inserts. My hdo2s are hands down my favorite goggle. And the fitment and eyelashes thing was fixed with newbeedrone foam. Which yea is aftermarket but its 10 bucks :/
UAV futures giving right information. I laughed so hard xD
I still think the HD02 are the coolest! I wish they were cheaper.
i like the fatshark / apple comparison, if you already have fatsharks you will already have the receiver and antenna parts and you can sell the rest on, i tried a set of HD2's and HDO's and for the money it wasn't worth the upgrade from my Dom V2's which really suit my eyes, these HDO 2's with the individual focus without diopters could be a game changer though for me. they should also re visit the strap, something like a gopro strap with a 3rd band over the top of the head would be great so you don't need so much tension on the side 2, but these goggles with an immersion. RC powerplay could be a winner.
Those skyzones are so comfy.
All future proofed here with the DJI FPV Googles....though, did just try the FatSharks earlier today and they'll get the job done too....thanks for the review Stew!
RGMG nothing in the hobby is future proof. That just means your good for maybe months to a year before the next hype train comes along.
@@apsfpv2217 True..I'm good for about 4 weeks. :)
Just a heads up for those worried about the thin face pad. I use my thick aftermarket pad from my HD3s and it gets your face far enough away from the goggles that they are comfortable. Stu try a thicker face pad and let us know if it works for you:) Sounds like you said new radio but you can't talk about it. Now that we know it's a radio can you tell us who's radio :)
still using my eachine ev200d, ive had them since they came out, running archilles plus, and the screens are perfect size and reaally high res. Deffo good buy 👍👍
I love my hdo2s 🤷🏼♂️ lol no regrets buying them what so ever 😁👌🏼 I’m super new to the hobby but yeah stoked with them 🙂
Did you solve the eyelash problem?
LionFR3AK my eyelashes don’t touch them? So it hasn’t been a problem for me 👍🏼
@@nighthawkz5284 is there any overheating issues or any other issues bcuz I want a pair but reading reviews saying dont believe RUclips reviewers...I'm turn between these and the HDO
I use the strongest diopters for my (very) old Fatshark Dom' V2's. Do the HDO's have the ability to focus without diopters? (same question for the DJI)
Can't imagine dropping that much coin on analog with DJI out there. If there was a digital module in the works from DJI...maybe then.
Coming from the Eachine EV800d I went to the HDO2. While I must say I am not an avid racer, I am still glad I got them. Was it a big purchase? Oh absolutely!! But so far I am enjoying them compared to the Eachine.
If you have good vision - read no glasses, old age, different dioptry/barrel.. on each eye.. then yep i can agree with most you said, too expensive, lenses touching eyelashes .. but .. there is one big but here, if you need focusing capability of these glasses, then there is almost no competition, only eachines as i know of - and they aren't really in same quality bracket.. so for me when i got hdo2's it was like i could finally see, now i can see that most of my cameras are out of focus, for me the money was really well spent and i just love them. Will try to get thicker foams when they show up, since old ones from my hd3's are not really compatible (bigger nose cut on hdo2s i guess) and hopefully that will also alleviate eyelash issues but i can live with that. What i would really like to see is 3d mode on hdmi input (yep i've connected them to pc, and they are usable even to work with ... ;) and better DVR. Since hdmi input is there and it works (didn't test lag yet, but mouse and window movements were ok, no ghosting or such - and i usually use 144Hz monitor) i would say these are also HD friendly when that becomes more popular. Considering that with DJI you're carrying box goggles with extra added weight of analog receiver i guess hdo2s with some future HD external module and hdmi cable link might be even lighter and smaller than current dji config for both analog and hd. Of course dji is here and now, we're still waiting for small hd receivers ;)
i brought the hdo2 and loving it
My buddy has a pair of these and honestly can't stand them. He has super sensitive eyes and can notice something that most people don't.
To reveal this to us normal eyed humans. Record close up footage of the screens of the HDO2's taken with a sportcam, record in NTSC and have the fpv feed in PAL. The differing framerates enable you to see just how badly it deinterlaced the incoming analouge FPV feed is. The image will continually jump up/down by a single (analogue) pixel. Something you won't see on LCD baced goggles.
So basically if you're a gamer and/or can notice the difference in high frame rate monitors....these may not be for you.
THANK YOU! I have hdo2 s sine a week an I can’t find ANYBODY saying anything about this
A hundred dollar difference is not that much for such an important part of FPV IMO when you look at the time line length of use and other costs involved flying FPV over time.... you probably won't lose or crash you googles and better visibility can save an expensive model from a power line or small branch. For models under 250 grams and even above that the analog FPV system is here to stay quite a while longer and the FS HDO2 is King with it's larger FOV and added adjustments over the original HDO IF your eyes can handle a larger FOV than 30-35 degrees.
Everyone's eyes are different so try before you buy if you can rather than listen to what works for someone else. And remember it's hard to beat Fat Sharks customer service should you need it. I'm only a fanboy for whatever works best for me and Fat Shark has my respect from earning it time and again. I've lost more money in parts collecting dust due to poor QC over the years than what I spent on my goggles that's for sure.
Love the dji HD i could never go back to analog!!!!
Yes, but they bleed way to much light and they are way to big for me. I'm glade you like them. Also the lag with a killer.
@@logo8009 i switched the to soft foam and the light leaks are gone and with all the new updates there is only lag way beyond where i was flying my analog setup.
I'll stick with my hdo
Those radiomaster tx16’s radios are basically the same as the jumpert16 pro, made by one of the guys from jumper who decided to go his own way. Virtually the same, except that the new ones have outside charging capability, otherwise identical, and they Amy even be cheaper.
I am currently looking for my first set of goggles and have watched a large number of reviews. They all lead me to the same conclusion. Are the FatShark Hdo2's a good goggle? Yes. Do they cost too much? Yes!!! $500 for a non-functioning set of goggles that need a new receiver, new antennas to even function. Then they need a new strap, and new foam to make them fit properly, for seemingly most people. So, you are now up to somewhere around $700. SkyZone O3O = $400 and they function and fit. The point is, this is unreasonable to expect from any customer base. Though they will look nice laying next to your new $1200 Apple phone!🤣🤣🤣
If sky zones were 300 I'd agree but 100$ difference isn't really worth it to justify considering byte frost HD for fat shark an in worse case a VTX burning out in a set of sky zone goggles, IDK 500 vs 400 so I can have open soure hardware support an state side product replacement yea I'm going FATSHARK baby!
My kiss v2 25A 4 in 1 build everything works including the camera, vtx, osd, and receiver but none of the motors spin. I also dont get any beeps when I plug in the battery but I do get lights from everything and I connected to the kiss gui and flashed to the newest esc and fc firmware. Any suggestions or answers please help.
Just thinking about FPV for fixed wing flying. That would be so COOL! But I’m so freakin LOST. Thinking of the HDO2, but trying to figure out what I need, how it all goes together.... 🤦🏻♂️ Thinking about getting an Eflite Convergence, and maybe even rig up one of my Hornets. Would like airspeed data. How does THAT fit in the equation??
The most expensive analog goggle are the orqas.
@Sutro SHOTS FIRED!
I fly with a simple 7" Eachine FPV monitor, which sits on a really simple metal bracket that I have mounted on the back of my Taranis X7. I would love to get a goggle, but partly I am very much a beginner and partly I fly very little due to familiy duties. So dishing out 600+ USD is not really an option.
The Skyzone would probably be the golden holy grail for me, even the Attitude V5 would be probably just perfect.
I cannot test them, so I don't know whether they fit my huge face.
So I continue watching reviews and wait...
See if there's a pilot group in your area. It's a great way to try out some other gear, and ask questions about the hobby
@@michael7370 thank you for the tip!
Dom v3's have served me well for the last 4 years, with a true-d 3.9, No long term issues, comfy, no light leak, 16:9. Have no wanting to change to anything newer, or even digital. Yes I have tried dji, I very much dislike the camera on the dji air unit. Yeah it looks ok, but its no gopro. Thats does it right there. No one has come out with a different camera for the air unit. It would be nice if you could choose between different camera's. The camera is what gets to me, also the size of the googles. When I have them on I can see light leak city, and it litteraly feels I'm putting on a bike helmet.
I keep my HDO
You don’t have an odd shaped face. The only way I could get them to fit was with New Bee Drone comfort foam trimmed down.
Just cut your eyelashes, I never use mine anyway :)
LMAO!! i love it
it works!
Or wax them 🤪
lol..true story (hope my brother ain't reading this)..When we were kids one of the aunt's commented on how long and pretty my brothers eyelashes were.She really shouldn't have used the word "pretty" as he took scissors to them the next day.Really wasn't noticeable until they grew back...much longer...lol..
@@steve_beatty i was thinking they should get themselves mens eyelashes too or atleast cut out the mascara.
Hi Stew Great video and review of the Fatshark Googles and the DJI Google system. I haven't been in the FPV World very long and when I started 2 years ago I couldn't purchase fatshark Googles and so I started with a set of Eachine EV800d and then I won a pair of Aomways commander V1 and I have been flying with them since. My only complaint is that the IPD could go out two more clicks, now I have been saving up for a new set of goggles and I have been looking at the SKYZONE 030 and now that I have only one complaint is that the skyzone can't take a outer module or maybe we can ? And on the DJI system I can't afford to spend the money on a new set of goggles and then purchase a module. But the DJI system you are looking at $150 dollars in each of the quads just for a camera and VTX. So I'm staying with the Skyzone. Thanks again for the information.
I like the new focus options and ipd adjustment but the hdo2s give me a headache. My eyes are always straining with the fov even when I set it to 16:9 with 4:3 camera. I also find them uncomfortable and how about a fan that doesn't turn off?
Ok DAMN !!! I bought HDO's, and now they suck !!! I gotta agree with your total assessment .Even though I bought HDO's last season, if I had to do it again, I would buy Skyzones. The receivers were a pain, I have no use for Rapidfire ( I'm not a crazy long range, video nut, or racer, or rich ).OLED is the thing, and when I bought mine , they were the only ones. Resale is not worth the return, so I'll just stick with what I got , and be happy.. I do have to say my set have worked flawlessly, for over a year, with less than gentle treatment. Fatshark is just way behind the curve.
With 40 million out of work and food lines in all states wonder how many these are selling?
Will just keep my HD3 Cores with the old True-D’s.
I fly sky zone 02x and I have been loving them!!!
What's the weight of the dgi or ummm "frost"? Non analog device
I love my HDO2s they're the best goggles out there.
Nice Tango 2 there ;)
100 bucks isnt alot more for fatsharks compared to Skyzones.
You dont HAVE to get rapidfire, cheap Achilles is also an option.
And dont forget there's practically no customer support for skyzone.
All that for 100 bucks less.
edit: i have the ev200d so i'm not defending a fatshark purchase :)
We have the same shape head. I fly crossfire, what goggles would you recommend? I'll follow your advice and order whatever you say.
Hi, I got my new HDO2 today and they have blue screens , not image, noise, etc. Any idea?
Change the source. You may be in HDMI or something. I had that too. I dont remember which button. Try pressing some of the joysticks (not move, press), and then press some buttons :D
Comfort is really very personal. For my face it is even more comfortable than Skyzones 03O. No lash contact. In same time DJI Goggles have terrible fit :( And this fact stops from buying them. Dream of some DJI compatible ground station with HDMI output :)
I'm still rocking the aomway commander v1s. Albeit hooked up to a groundstation running a tbs fusion. I am debating on upgrading to the DJI and the groundstation for digital HD.
I made a video with my impressions of the Orcas. I'm not impressed with them. I like my HDO2s MUCH better -After I changed the foam.
Which foam did you switch to?
Did it fix the eyelash problem?
These fit me horribly too, painfully even. Orqa are hands down the best fit, screens, and FAR superior DVR.
Super secret ayyyye?!? Obviously a transmitter...... and the only one coming out soon is the TBS Tango 2. Look forward to seeing it and its small form factor over the original
Fatshark... Probably one of the last brands id buy. It's like Apple, overpriced gear that met high standards years ago, but not anymore... with plenty of things arguably equivalent available cheaper.
Hays Stew do you don't do race flying anymore?
Next why don't do a speed test for the best drones you have in your opinion
Im always think about that fatshark is so expensive. Im using hd3 and hesitating switch to hdo2 but it is better to buy next version of fatshark 🔥
@Drones and Truth ! Thank you!
The HDO2 would be worth it if they cost the same as the Fatshark Scout does right now. And the Fatshark Scout should cost as much as the Fatshark Recon V3. The Recon V3 should cost roughly 15 to 20 bucks more than the makerfire goggles.
Ive gone from my phone screen, to aomways commanders and now i have the Orqa.. 😎 I hat the attitude v4 for a day.. And i took them back..
The Orqa's seem to be on infinity preorder and have not seen any for sale in the US...They're pretty pricey...
Good stuff coming for the HDO2s... :D also try the OWLRX if you still have it.. really weird DVR issue.. like something is loose
I fly HD3's with a laforge internal install that's as old as the fatsharks along with an original LHCP pepperbox directly mounted on the goggles, if it works don't fix it unless you have the money to waste 💸
🥃 cheers 🍻
Epileptic DVR ! What the flute ? please don't, it's dangerous...
Could you please review the sky03o module adapter? Nothing on RUclips as far as I can see.
It's the one he used in the Skyzone rapid fire video last week
Man, Now i don't know what to do!! I wanted to get these HDO2 but like you said it's quite expensive. I also want to use the TBS Fusion module which I have already.. Tell me what to do Stu!
Skyzone SKY03O, and get the optional module attachment. Better than HDO and better than HDO2 in many ways, except for the screens and optics.
Why wouldn't you be able to use the fusion module?
As additional i fo i would say the face plate is a lot Smaller than on previous fatsharks have u realised that?
At helination these are not 500. At helination you can buy hdo2 for same price as HDO.
I totally agree with that the foam is, they both are absolutely crap. I sticked my uruav grey foam on from hd3s and thats lot better. Them moon shaped foams by lens are useless. I have removed them and had no issues with light or whatever apart from they dont wiggle around my eye lashes anymore so take it as a positive side of it xd
please start blurring "super secret stuff" rather than a huge box, that along with the bad DVR which had to be mixed vin post and could not make it past 50% into the video
that dvr could potentially cause a seizure. wtf fatshark lol. ive been looking into skyzone and im impressed, and friends don't keep secrets bro..
The DVR in my old hd3s is great, definitely something wrong with this one...
As someone thinking about getting into the hobby, never tried analog or digital, and not bothered by the price of DJI FPV, the video signal of analog looks horrible and turns me off from the hobby. I need HD video to be interested in the sport. DJI FPV is it for me. Am I wrong?
To be fair, the analog setups look a lot better in person than they do on RUclips. That being said, I had analog setups for a couple years and while they were a blast, I've sold it all off and gone fully to the DJI setup. It looks way better.
Never had problems from my analog setups. I'm even using the cheapest parts out there with Eachine TX805 VTX. Never experienced any bad reception. But maybe because I fly mainly on fields with couple of trees. Never on concretes.
I don't see the point of a power button. You still have to plug the battery in and a power button is another point of failure. Pushing a power button is an extra step.
Hay STEW ! Next time try AUTO SCANNING !!!!!!!!!!
Hey Stew,
I live across the ditch in nz and I'm looking for some goggles in the 100-230ish range, what do you recommend?
P.S. 55th like boys
ev300
just a bit more
screen is really good, though
skyzone sky02c
ANALog is dead. Get the DJI goggles and do the Bytefrost mod that will inevitably come.
Bytefrost mod?
yeah, but it won't be long before someone releases a DJI module for any goggles that have a module bay. no need for the big dji goggles at that point.
Really, got here before horde?!?
G'daaaayyyyyy!
first first. wooo
HDO2 were a huge waste of money...they were stolen out of my car before I even used them once.
so.... there is new RC transmitter coming
If someone who have or try both sky03O and HDO2 can tell me if the HDO2 have better quality image than the skyzone sky03O. The sky03O have a sharp and clean image ( not like the blurry HDO1 that i have). HDO1 was a waste of money , i regret my buying(very happy with the sky03O). Does it worth the upgrade from sky03O to HDO2?
How much do the screens fill your vision with the 03O's? Is it like sitting at the back of a cinema or do they appear closer? Really wanting a pair. Dont know whether to get them or hang tight..
@@kudzy11 I think is back of a cinema. But it's enough. I can say you that you will be happy with this goggle. The image is amazing for analog. Perhaps the HDO2 is good. But i don't know. Think that you see a image that was processing by the goggles. This is the reason why the sky03O is good. There's no reason for me to buy a goggles if the image is blurry like the crap of HDO1. Look to every review of the HDO1. People will tell you how great is HDO1. But don't thrust the fanboys try by yourself the goggle you want to buy if you can. For the receiver look my channel. There's many good reviews on SKY03O.
have to stick with dji best of both worlds now that there is a 10 dollar module for analog
Skyzoneo3o or hdo2 ..???
you forgot to say they dont work. mine are going back
At this point I don't feel like the original HDOs are worth buying at all.. I have attitude v5 and It feels similar but is just way cheaper
The foam inside the hdo2 lens touches my eyelashes and makes my eyes teary. I'll stick with goggles with diopters. If Skyzone came with a module bay slot then there is no point buying this. The choice would be Orqas and 03o
I felt the same way about my skyzone 03 and my buddies hdo until I tried the Dji system. Honestly there’s no comparison in picture. Dji absolutely crushes the analog picture. Ended up switching to Dji but still kept my skyzones for my tiny whoops