For clarification, I would NOT recommend washing the shirts that go out to your customers. Not only would it add a lot of time, but it would grow tiresome & expensive as your business grows. Also take into consideration that some people have certain skin reactions to detergents and such and you don't want to risk that. I only recommend doing a wash test to ensure quality on a test print before you go into production.
@@heinerradau Yep! There's nothing wrong with wearing it before washing. The shirts only have a slight starch feeling from the pretreatment which may be uncomfortable to some but goes away after the first wash.
@@LovesBranding ok but it’s not like it gives you skin irritations or anything because of chemicals when you’re wearing it before the first wash and sweating
I haven't heard of any issues like this. The pretreatment is pretty much just a glue or fixing agent. It would likely only cause irritation to people with extremely sensitive skin.
Thanks for the tip. I ran some white shirts today on the f2100 at my shop and them suckered faded right after washing. I didn't double stike the color or have and of my striking setti g turned on. I'm definitely trying your setting tomorrow. 🤪
I've seen people use heavy pressure, but I personally prefer light to medium pressure. The goal is to get the ink to the cure temperature and evaporate all the moisture. Pressure helps ensure the heat transfers into the garment but high pressure isn't necessary in my opinion. Play around with it and see what works best for you
It can definitely get clogged, after every use, I fill the sink with water and spray it through to clear the lines. Definitely wouldn't recommend leaving pretreat in it overnight
@@fl305 It does have overspray unfortunately. I have to clean around the heat press or else it dries and leaves the area sticky. But in my opinion, its easier to control since you're manually spraying, you can control how much comes out and where it covers
I prefer Firebird which is already diluted so you don't need to add more water. Other brands such as the Epson pretreat or Creek requires dilution. When I use those, I dilute to what is recommended based on the spec sheet. You may want to test different ratios as well to see what works best for you.
@@LovesBranding Thank you for the response. I use an Epson F2100 printer, Malfini 200 g/m² shirts, and Firebird VIVID pretreatment at a dilution ratio of 1:1. The results are good and look very nice, but I haven't tested the results thoroughly after washing. I want and need only a professional result. So, is your recommendation not to dilute the pretreatment at all??? Firebird VIVID in my country costs 120€ for 5L (approximately 132 USD for 1.32 gallons when converted). The resulting shirt will become even more expensive.
@@firmamotostyleplanets.r.o.3496 I don't dilute it but also the pretreat here in the US is only $50USD per 1 gallon. I would definitely test with and without diluting. The FBX-VIVID is made to not be diluted, but I'm sure you can dilute a little bit and get very similar results
I use both the Garment Creator software which comes with the F2100 from Epson as well as Kothari Print Pro from AllAmericanPrintSupply. 90% of the time I use Kothari Print Pro but Garment Creator is more than sufficient for most jobs!
R u really washing all ur Tshirts before you deliver to ur customer? 😮 this takes so long, and do you machine dry them or hang dry? it’s probably to get out the pretreat from the garment using DTG? That’s what I loved about DTF cuz washing wasn’t necessary..
I realize I should have mentioned this better in the video; I only was washing these as a test to show how well the prints hold up. I do not wash the shirts before delivery and I wouldn't recommend it because people may have allergies to different detergents and in the US, I don't believe you can sell the shirts as "new" if they have been washed. I usually let the customer know to wash before wear if the pretreat is noticeable.
Thanks for pointing this out, I'll leave a pinned comment to clear it up. When I watch it back, it does seem like I am washing everything before sending them to my customer. I typically only do the wash test on a sample before production if I feel like it is necessary.
For me, it gives a brighter and better image. I've done a lot of testing on white and this is what works best for me. Typically no pretreat on white results with some slight fade on the first wash. I've found that this helps lock in the color. There is still some fade but its very very slight.
For clarification, I would NOT recommend washing the shirts that go out to your customers. Not only would it add a lot of time, but it would grow tiresome & expensive as your business grows. Also take into consideration that some people have certain skin reactions to detergents and such and you don't want to risk that.
I only recommend doing a wash test to ensure quality on a test print before you go into production.
Makes sense. Would you personally wear the freshly printed t-Shirt without prior washing?
@@heinerradau Yep! There's nothing wrong with wearing it before washing. The shirts only have a slight starch feeling from the pretreatment which may be uncomfortable to some but goes away after the first wash.
@@LovesBranding ok but it’s not like it gives you skin irritations or anything because of chemicals when you’re wearing it before the first wash and sweating
I haven't heard of any issues like this. The pretreatment is pretty much just a glue or fixing agent. It would likely only cause irritation to people with extremely sensitive skin.
Thanks for the tip. I ran some white shirts today on the f2100 at my shop and them suckered faded right after washing. I didn't double stike the color or have and of my striking setti g turned on. I'm definitely trying your setting tomorrow. 🤪
Best of luck! White shirts can be "easier" than black shirts but are a bit tricky to first figure out because they can fade more
hello, how many grams or ml of pre-treatment do you use on the t-shirts? And how hard do you dry the pattern in the heat press, medium or high?
hi, if you drying a print with heatpress, use medium or heavy pressure setting? or light?
I've seen people use heavy pressure, but I personally prefer light to medium pressure. The goal is to get the ink to the cure temperature and evaporate all the moisture. Pressure helps ensure the heat transfers into the garment but high pressure isn't necessary in my opinion. Play around with it and see what works best for you
I never thought of using a spritz spray for pretreatment, does the line gets clog?
It can definitely get clogged, after every use, I fill the sink with water and spray it through to clear the lines. Definitely wouldn't recommend leaving pretreat in it overnight
@@LovesBranding it seems like the spritz spray has a better even spray than the spray gun 🤔? And also not overspray
@@fl305 It does have overspray unfortunately. I have to clean around the heat press or else it dries and leaves the area sticky. But in my opinion, its easier to control since you're manually spraying, you can control how much comes out and where it covers
Hello. In what proportion do you dilute penetration, or do you use it undiluted?
I prefer Firebird which is already diluted so you don't need to add more water. Other brands such as the Epson pretreat or Creek requires dilution. When I use those, I dilute to what is recommended based on the spec sheet. You may want to test different ratios as well to see what works best for you.
@@LovesBranding
Thank you for the response. I use an Epson F2100 printer, Malfini 200 g/m² shirts, and Firebird VIVID pretreatment at a dilution ratio of 1:1. The results are good and look very nice, but I haven't tested the results thoroughly after washing. I want and need only a professional result. So, is your recommendation not to dilute the pretreatment at all??? Firebird VIVID in my country costs 120€ for 5L (approximately 132 USD for 1.32 gallons when converted). The resulting shirt will become even more expensive.
@@firmamotostyleplanets.r.o.3496 I don't dilute it but also the pretreat here in the US is only $50USD per 1 gallon. I would definitely test with and without diluting. The FBX-VIVID is made to not be diluted, but I'm sure you can dilute a little bit and get very similar results
Nice
Thanks
Do you use a rip program.??
I use both the Garment Creator software which comes with the F2100 from Epson as well as Kothari Print Pro from AllAmericanPrintSupply. 90% of the time I use Kothari Print Pro but Garment Creator is more than sufficient for most jobs!
R u really washing all ur Tshirts before you deliver to ur customer? 😮 this takes so long, and do you machine dry them or hang dry? it’s probably to get out the pretreat from the garment using DTG? That’s what I loved about DTF cuz washing wasn’t necessary..
I realize I should have mentioned this better in the video; I only was washing these as a test to show how well the prints hold up. I do not wash the shirts before delivery and I wouldn't recommend it because people may have allergies to different detergents and in the US, I don't believe you can sell the shirts as "new" if they have been washed.
I usually let the customer know to wash before wear if the pretreat is noticeable.
Thanks for pointing this out, I'll leave a pinned comment to clear it up. When I watch it back, it does seem like I am washing everything before sending them to my customer. I typically only do the wash test on a sample before production if I feel like it is necessary.
Why are you pretreating white shirts?
For me, it gives a brighter and better image. I've done a lot of testing on white and this is what works best for me. Typically no pretreat on white results with some slight fade on the first wash. I've found that this helps lock in the color. There is still some fade but its very very slight.