John Deere R4045 Sprays Corn at an Angle????
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- In this video we spend time out in the field with a 346 hp John Deere R4045 spraying rows of corn 120ft at a time. We will climb up in the cab of the big sprayer to see the operators perspective as the machine runs 17 mph across the field.
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I'm convinced that Matt is having tons of fun - running all of that big equipment!!
He enjoys it. 👍
In Argentina, if an operator treads on that amount of corn, he is fired immediately. Hahaha!!
Almost every farm in this region runs this way. Spraying corn is going to see some plants run over.
@@bigtractorpower Yes, here sometimes it can also be observed in some fields. Just kidding. But in my family farm we planted corn with 52.5 cm (almost 22 inches) of row spacing and we sprayed following the furrow with tires 380/90 46. It is not easy, but it is a better job. Sorry for my English, I'm using Google Translator
P.S. I am fascinated by your videos.
Hi there. Do this job in angle it is very commum in my home country. In Brazil we seed corn and soybeans using 17 inches in between the rows, so it is almost impossible to keep the sprayers on track. Angle spraying is the best option. Before the gps system we used to tie a couple of tractors togeter to leave the mark where the sprayer should pass using a steel cable wide as the sprayer boom.
That is interesting. 17 inch rows are much different than the United States. How wide are the planters you use? Most corn here is 30 inches. 20 inch corn is the second most common. 38 inch corn planted in cotton areas. Soybeans is common for soybeans.
bigtractorpower when you go to South Brazil we have not so flat areas in the states of Parana, Rio Grande do Sul or Sao Paulo. In these states planters are quite small and they have no more than 12, 14 or 16 rows. But when you go uo North, where we call “cerrado” we have flat areas and the farms are very large. Farmers must have big farm because the costs are almost twice as much as south. Poor soil and yields lower than south. Is very commom to see 24,000 acres farm, 50,000 and even bigger. Let me know an e-mail address or any other media where I can reach you and I’ll send to you some links to youtube videos where you can see what I am talking about.
By the time the corn is ready to harvest it will hard to see where the sprayer went across the fields
You are 100% right.
Excellent video. It's a good strategy. At that stage of development you'd largely see the 16 or 18" tracks fill in, without damaging an entire row or two every pass. It's solid thinking.
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Love the John Deere equipment running Thank you Jason awesome videos
Thank you for watching.
Nice seeing Matt again out in the field. Great video BTP!
Not-a-Farmer-Here: So good of you to explain the "why at an angle". Learning another trick of the trade.
We just got a new R4630 with exactapply and a carbon fiber boom. It’s pretty cool watching it run at night with the lights on each spray tip.
boomerang379 no such thing as an R4630
Thanks for the video! Nice machine!!!
Thank you for watching.
Thanks for the video garnetts have some really nice people working for them and the machines are sweet!
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Great vid! Pretty Corn growing! Nothing runs like a Deere(they say)
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So they have the largest sprayer from JD, but not the guidance
No it's the way the field is planted
If you listen you can hear his 2630 beeping in the background, he’s got guidance. The reason for going at an angle is because it’s easier than trying to keep it lined up between the rows.
He’s probably running SF1 for guidance, not RTK. He has autotrac, but does not have row sense or row vision which works very well in a taller corn crop.
All makes good cents! I lived in western Kentucky and I would see this. I would scratch my head and say “what’s up with that”. Now I know. Thanks.
That’s neat that you are from WKY. Thank you for watching.
Great video and explanation. Your videos are the best on RUclips. You’re the RUclips king.
Thank you. I appreciate you watching.
Agreed awsome videos BTP
That is nuts going at an angle but I understand the reasons for it
Kandi Klover we follow the rows and we don’t have the fancy equipment to do it. Just drive by hand and go a little slower
What equipment? It's called a steering wheel..... been doing it for years. I run a older 4930 Deere and steer it for 20,000 acres every year and only run over crop when turning around. This is just lazy
They have higher accuracy gps that can use the planter gps line and drive between the rows. We don’t even have auto steer on our sprayer. We have a 2006 model 4410 case.If you watch what your doing you can drive between the rows and not run over corn it’s not that hard
Yes I now I never ran a machine with GPS on it.just drove in the rows and steered mtself
here in brasil spray on an angle is very common
Thank you for watching and sharing.
Another great video, Thank you.
Thank you for watching.
Spraying at an angle makes a lot of sense especially if fields are smaller and oddly shaped ,it is done here lots too,I think unless you have over 30 inch wide rows when its wet and the sprayer sinks in a bit the roots of the rows on the tire tracks are affected cause they grow out not just straight down..But if i remember from you videos last year they ran with the rows? Mabey i am not remembering right.
This farm has always run at an angle in corn. It seems to work well for them
Most farm’s and co ops in this are run at an angle.
I find it unconvincing that they can afford such an expensive sprayer and not be able to purchase the higher accuracy GPS subscription. It's simply easier and faster to do it this way, than to watch out and follow the rows. And when you combine all the corn that has been run over across multiple rows, that would be the same as if they ran across one whole row in the straight. So that explanation also does not hold value . Cool vid anyhow, BTP!
milance17 I think they have four of these machines.
Well that's fine that you don't buy it, but it doesn't change reality. You don't have all of the information, you don't know all of the variables involved that affect these decisions, it's easy to arm chair QB someone else's work when it isn't your check book attached to it. There are compromises in everything in life.
We are in Wisconsin and it has a lot of hills and contours. A lot of small fields and they can follow the rows just fine whether its planted with a 4 row or a 48 row. wide rows or narrow rows. Slow down a little bit. They'd be kicked off for life around here. Only time we go across the rows is when its too steep they will go straight across no angle.
I´m impressed by the speed the sprayer runs over the field. Here in Germany it´s more common to go from 3.7 to 7.5 mph
They can cover allot of ground in a hurry.
Very impressive to see how they make calculations to decide knock the plants down, awesome
It works out well. By harvest time you won’t even notice the spray tracks.
Great video, very informative
Thank you for watching.
That is just absolutely insane the amount of acres that sprayer does in one year but at the beginning of the video when I was watching it I thought man those bones are going to just hit the ground today and they were just quiet side to side like some kid riding down downhill with their arms out it’s incredible how much those things just flex around in the field
They do flex allot. They ride better than the old deign on the 4920-4940 which flop around allot. You do have to watch the terrain because they can hit and bend if the land rolls too much between the width.
You should check Stara imperador sprayer.
It has an amazing boom stabilization at bad lands.
It's uses pendulum mechanism..
I will look it up. Sounds interesting.
Everyone needs to understand that RTK (
22 mph is moving right along.
@@bigtractorpower I actually ran over less corn going faster for whatever reason. But our fields are mostly square so that helps
I prefer to run with the rows...but as small as that corn is you won’t hurt it going at an angle
Gettin pretty close there!!!
Camera zoom. 😁
At least they got crop in the ground we don't have very much then ground here in Michigan yet of anyting
I hope sunshine and dry weather find you soon.
Wow 132' optional boom that's awesome
It is a Carbon Fiber boom. I hope to find one out in the field some time.
@@bigtractorpower Well the corn prices should go up next yr because its almost June and not 1 acre of seed in the ground. Popcorn co shut us off on 5-20 they picked up their seed today . Needs lots of prayers for the farmers who cant farm yet .
Well that’s amazing that the R4060 is not available in the US yet... we have them in Australia already, had ours for 4month
It was just announced here.
Just watched their announcement video, seems the only difference between them and what we already have is the command drive. Find it abit odd that Deere wouldn’t sell them in the US yet
Holy cow! That thing is hauling ass.
It can cover some ground.
Great video
Thank you for watching.
that boom goes up and down more than the 737 max hahaha
They do flex allot. The older design boom on the 4920 to the 4940 bounced a whole lot more. The R series sprayers is a major improvement.
@@bigtractorpower I'm really interested to see the new carbon fiber setup, that's gotta be a pretty damn trick piece!
What would be the reason for the sink holes? Bad drain tiles? The How Farms Work channel in Wisconsin has problems with sink holes because of underground zinc mines. I would not think that there are old subterranean mines in Western Kentucky.
This region has lime stone which easily erodes from water. There is a great series of caves across the region. One of the worlds largest caves Manmouth cave is in Western Kentucky. The sink holes have nothing to do with drainage in the field. They are deep under the ground and can surface over night from the size of a wood chuck hole to a depression that leaves a pond sized bowl shape in the field. Corvette sports cars are built in WKY in Bowling Green. On February 12, 2014 a sink hole opened up under the National Corvette museum swallowing up eight Corvettes into the sinkhole including the 1992 “1 Millionth” Corvette and 2009 ZR1 “Blue Devil” .
Which sprayer you'd recomend as the most versatile sprayer for 8-10 thousand acre farm. Is it available any options to lift John Deere's clearence up to 5'9" - 6' high or it is more logically to byu Hagie sprayer? Several advantages of both of them
P.S. Thank you for video
The R4045 is very nice. A Haigie or Miller is going to offer the best year round option to go from short to very tall crops. This farm runs a Haigie to apply fungicide to their corn after it tassels.
That steering wheel holder in the cab should not be spraying! You can absolutely follow those rows without running any over. He’s just taking the easy way out and using GPS
I've said for 2 years let's go at a 45 degree angle. I like it 😊
It works well. They get out there and get the field covered and move on to the next. It’s seems when you are working not to hit corn you tend to run over more.
how many acres does this sprayer spray per hour?
If everything goes right they can spray 11,000 acres in three days with three R4045s.
I've seen more & more sprayers doing it at an angle. They figure running down a few plants per row is much better than running down 2 whole rows across 1/2 mile plus long field... especially when some farmers are going to 22" rows!
I think it works well. It allows the job to get done fast and crop what it needs.
Realy cool
Thank you for watching.
I'm surprised they don't get auto steer on the sprayer and then they could drive right down the middle of the row and not crush the crop.
It has auto-steer but the subscription is not as fine point to keep the sprayer right on the row 100%. Running at 17 mph it’s just easier to run at the angle.
bigtractorpower you’re correct. I cut alfalfa with a triple mower setup and the green star gps struggles tremendously when mowing at speeds of 15-17 mph.
Do you have to set a new a-b line for the gps to spray at an angle or can just start spraying an the gps wil set it self
They have to set an a-b line in the computer.
Good vídeo btp!!!👍🚜
Thank you for watching.
how is the 4786 doing?
It’s doing well. It will be in a video soon.
@@bigtractorpower great. thanks for the reply.
That’s a big step up from a 600 Hy-Cycle.
Sprayers have come along way. John Deere has been a long time leader in self propelled sprayers.
How is the dust affecting the spray pattern?
I don’t think it impacts it at all. These sprayers are either going to be kicking up dust or running through mud in the season.
Hi Big tractorPower
Hi. Thanks for watching.
Considering the tires are 6” wide, wouldn’t it be better to run perpendicular to the rows rather than an angle, assuming they plant 32 to 34K that’s still only 1-2 plants instead of 4-5 plants per row , we run the rows but I’d rather run perpendicular than anything
Be rough as hell though!
How is this similar to the CaseIH Trident 5550?
I would like to film a Trident. It looks like an impressive machine. The Trident is 390 hp and weighs in at 35,000 lbs with a sprayer so it’s a similar hp and weight.
That broadleaf weed you touched is pigweed. You should have pulled it. It'll grow 6 inches a day and each plant makes millions of seeds. They are an absolute nightmare here in the south. They'll get so big you have to cut them with a saw.
I was in a 1,200 acre field so it would take awhile to pull all the weeds 😁. I will say while I am filming and if I see a big weed I will pull it or break the stem as I walk across the field. Johnson grass is a big challenge here.
We usually have to walk across the field with a hoe and chop them. Johnson grass isn't a problem here anymore. It's well maintained with herbicide
jesse yarbrough nothing like walking a field with a hoe all day to get rid of weeds and nut grass. Oh how we love things that suck. Topping and suckering tobacco.
That doesn't make any sense B.T.P.,they buy 3 500 K sprayers,but didn't get the optional Green Star®??.
They have Greenstar but the subscription level is not the most precise. You can see in the cab ride along the machine is driving itself. At 27 mph it’s just easier to run at an angle.
@@bigtractorpower I see...
bigtractorpower 17 MPH
Why didn’t they get the camera auto steer system so they can run with rows and run over nothing? That’s what I have on my 4045
They decided it was not an option they needed.
Yea I’m running at like 11.5 mph lol....but only 10 gal work vs your 12 gal
Iove....u....Fc
Did someone get a bit to exciting walk over it that they were tripping over their own feet and nearly dropping the camera to hop in the sprayer
He tripped on a stone in the field. I did not want to hold Matt from getting back to work. That’s why I was teasing him about running a rick picker in the field when I got in the cab.
Less compaction at an angle we do that .
How is it less compaction? It would be the exact same compaction just in different spots. You could view this as either a positive or a negative. Some of our customers prefer it spread out when they are doing full field tillage passes, others prefer all the compaction in the exact same spot so they can subsoil only in the wheel tracks and no till the rest of the field.
No it would not win you gas it you cultivate it an plant it run in the same tract it called compaction there has been many studies on that .
@@rustysimms5583 Yes, then you are compacting the same tracks exactly like I just said. Correct there has been many studies on the effects of compaction. Running the sprayer at an angle, like in this example, is still creating compaction. They are not doing this to avoid compaction that is just silly, they are doing this as Matt clearly states to minimize wheel track damage to the crop.
@@justind6039 no shit sherlock less compaction any way look at it go bed most people talking about!!,,
Rusty Simms It's not less at all. It's just compacting at an angle instead of in rows. Physics.
The auto shutoff would be nice to have
It is helpful. Especially spraying nitrogen on wheat.
92,000 acres a year....wow
They is about 8 application across the same fields.
@@bigtractorpower Imagine the chemical cost involved!
We got heifers out yesterday and one heifer broke a fence and I had to behind that crazy animal. 😠
That’s frustrating.
They're already using a Greenstar on the sprayer. They can't put that on the planter too and match up with the rows? I'm not buying it.
The planter and sprayer both use Greenstar but the accuracy of the subscription level the farm uses is not precise enough to run between the rows at 17 mph. For them in the conditions they run in the angle works. The loss of a few plants will not even be visible at harvest time.
pretty sure the R4060 is the biggest sprayer not the R4045 only difference is 1600 gallon tank on the 4060 and 1200 on the 4045
As I mentioned in the video the R4060 is a 2020 model. We won’t see them until next year. I expect this farm will have one next year.
@@bigtractorpower got one running over by me must be the demo one then seen it the other day.
Re: Running at an angle and driving over some corn... The talk on the video implied those plants run over will be lost. Is that 100%, or will some percentage of them return to normal growth and continue on through crop production? Or, once run over, they are lost?
Rightsideofthegrass some will pop back up. It’s not 100 percent loss. Probably 50 percent...
@@0731bart Thanks. It has been a few decades since we farmed any corn. We ran over some on the headland while cultivating (no spraying at that time). Most of it survived, and produced. Our equipment was not nearly as heavy, however. The language used in the video seemed to say little or none survived.
Rightsideofthegrass well it can survive now when it’s small like this. But as it gets bigger if they run it over again on the same pass it will be killed.
Most is done because of the stage the crop is being sprayed. If you look st the clip in the video where the sprayer ran over an entire row on the headland for about 50ft that was filmed a few days after the sprayer was in the field and you can see the corn had perished. If a few plants survive they will be run over in late June when the crop tassels and is sprayed with fungicide.
Somebody been walking on the hood? :(
LOL that's what I noticed first.
Is there starting to get some hagies to show up now that John Deere acquired them.
There have been Haiges in the area long before the Deere merger. Two farm’s I film at have Haigies. This farm became the third I know to get an STS16. They had run Millers for years in fungicide but made the switch to Haigie in 2017. Their Haige is only used for fungicide. Hutson has sold several Haigies in the area over the past few years.
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That's why it is better to manually steer the sprayer. That's why you have a steering wheel.
Steve Rosenberger not true. I’ve saved so much in fuel, chemical usage and fatigue running section Control and auto trac. I have data that proves it too
@@calebfuehring5823 fatigue yes, fuel and chemical I dont think so... there is more overlap and more passes going at an angle, dont know how you figured your data but doesn't add up to me. I run a 120ft 4930 in central MN, we have lots of different terrain and obstacles and would never think about running over that much crop. This is just laziness.... oh btw I still average 15-18 mph following rows
Eric I just shared the reason this farm shared with me on why they run the way they do. Most farm’s in this region spray this way.
Steve this farm runs GPS on the sprayer and you can see Matt is hands free in the cab ride along. This farm just feels running at an angle works best for them.
Eric Luce I don’t see where you get overlap. GPS is gps. No overlap with SC or SF3 guidance
Boo that’s not Caleb stawhabits channel
What is the name of his channel?
Lol, not fancy. I see gps and tracking on monitor. So they have it, just not using the auto steer or guidance, not a big deal.
They are using GPS you can see in the cab portion it’s running hands free. They do not subscribe to the highest level of accuracy in the GPS program so they prefer to run on the angle.
@@bigtractorpower apparently people aren't really paying attention to the video judging by all the similar comments on here.
Awful book control
The booms sway. On the 4920-4940 the older boom design on those really flop up and down.
im first lol.....cuts own on sprayer blyte with 120 foot booms
Very true.
This is beyond insane and stupid, to avoid compaction you get dual tires on that sprayer and do it the right way, wtf ?!?
They are not avoiding compaction with this method. They are just managing how to apply over the crop.
There's no such thing as "the right way" - every piece of land offers unique challenges to another, especially the further apart they are(I'm pretty sure farming in the Middle East is a bit different than farming in the US, let alone W KY specifically)
And once again you are out of breath
Guy needs to lay off the cheeseburgers. Put the camera down an pickup a salad.
Rude
Eddie McCutchen no need to be rude.
This is why i don’t buy corn 😷
100% of this corn goes to produce ethanol 👍🏻 You’ll be fine