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I always loved melody. She and all the other characters made me see a 'deaf community'. Im hearing and would love to learn ASL. 🙂
look. i’m someone who is learning asl in a hearing public school, with a deaf teacher. and you all really don’t understand how proud these people are to be deaf. they consider themselves a whole different group of people. they LOVE being deaf, and so many of them would never change it. i’ve met kids ages from 5-40 that are all deaf, either from birth or a very very young age. and ever. single. one of them told me that if they ever had the opportunity to hear again, they wouldn’t take it. they like being deaf, and fully embrace it. they love their culture and dances, their language, and the way they live. they all also admit it is really hard sometimes. you can’t hear alarms, or hear music or kids laughing. you can’t hear people screaming in haunted houses or the bands in parades. but they also have their own way of hearing. at dances, they blast the music as loud as humanly possible so they can feel the beat. they use flashing lights to signal a noise like a doorbell, or alarm. you don’t understand. being deaf in itself isn’t the gain. it’s all the new and exciting things that come with being deaf that is the gain. because they get to experience something all us hearing people never truly will.
reading through all the comments, it's fairly ironic that all the people that are shutting this video down are people who are hearing......this is one perspective guys, majority of the actors in that clip, are actually deaf, so it's not like they don't have any insight on the deaf community.
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But they dont know what its like to hear so their opinion is one sided
@@alanaterrel9914 and so is yours and mine. As much as we learn about deaf culture and no matter how much we empathize we will never know what it is like. Just like i can never really know what it is like to be African American. We all have biases and different life experiences and to some degree are lives are one sided, what matters is how we think and interact with people.
Not, me I love deaf people I want to learn ASL so bad
@@alanaterrel9914 Hearing people have a one sided perspective as well, and privilege. But as a hearing person I suffer from individualism. I don't have a community looking out for me. Now that I'm learning to sign I am starting to see a community. I just learned the sign for identity here!
This is amazing. It gives me, as a hearing person, a perspective of how deaf people think about it. Much love
Wish they framed the signing better. The shots often cut off the hands. It's annoying.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING IN MY ASL CLASS!
My mom is Deaf, I’m hearing, and I’ve been signing since I could intentionally move my fingers. Deaf people don’t want to be hearing. They are proud of their Deaf identity. Also, Marlee Maitlin is a QUEEN
Losing my hearing (slowly due to an inner ear issue) has opened my eyes to the wonderful community and to Deaf culture that I knew nothing about before.
It's really awesome. And I agree completely. Deaf gain, so long as those kids can (and hopefully do) have access to the culture and community and are not raised to believe that it is a burden.
I’m hard of hearing, wear hearing aids, use ASL sometimes. I agree. Not hearing loss, but deaf gain.
i think its very interesting. i imagine, though, that the answer to the pill question is different depending on level of deafness and if you were born deaf or not. if you were born deaf, you lived your whole life not hearing, therefore you feel there isn't anything missing or needed- you're whole the way you are, you've never heard, you've always experienced the world this way so why change it? people who are deaf from accidents or degenerative diseases, however, may have a different answer. for them, it is a loss (even if its easy enough to come to terms with it). they had something, but it is gone- a loss. their whole world and how they interacted with it changed, something they were used to no longer there. i imagine someone who had gone deaf but had lived much of their life hearing would take the pill to get their hearing back, and thats the keyword- *back*. you feel like you're missing something if you were born with it and no longer have it. i was born able to walk easily, go places without consideration, but slowly i've been losing my ability to walk well as well as mental health concerns. i would definitely take a pill to get my physical ability and mental state back. but someone born with mobility issues may not take the pill, because they have always had the issues and don't see them as issues, its what they're used to.
its all perspective and interaction. if everything you know and were used to changed, you would want to "fix" it and get back/go back to what you know.
I'm an English speaker living in the US. I've always loved languages and have taught myself some French, some Korean, some Japanese... this show premiered a few days after I graduated from high school, 12 years ago. I immediately loved the language aspect and learned some ASL.
Flash forward a decade... I had a brain bleed which caused hearing damage. Little did I know back then that my ASL skills would come in handy in a truly personal way. Now I'm going to go through the rest of my life as a hard-of-hearing person, and there's so much more learning left to do 💙
Deaf gain is very complex, but comforting idea. After living as hearing for so long, the concept of deaf gain encouraged me to get my hearing aid and it changed my life. With hearing loss in one ear, I feel literally split into two worlds, hearing and hard of hearing. Would I take a pill? I don’t know. It’s made me who I am, I am better for it. But my experience is different from others, I understand why people would take the pill. It’s a very personal choice, and so neither answer is wrong in my opinion
I am partially deaf, I could hear enough to understand speech and not need ASL to communicate. If my hearing could be cured I would take it in a heartbeat.
Crystal Hollis It depends wether you grew up mainstreamed or culturally Deaf
Well what if you had to use asl you literally just said you dont
You label yourself as "partially" deaf. Therein lies the difference.
this is by far one of the best scenes in this show🖤
I personally don't see being deaf as a disability, but there are those who do. With today's technology and the development of a form of sign language for all deaf people around the world, it has an impact on your life, but much of it seems to be catered for with these. It does not need to 'disable' your life as such which bears consideration if any of us wishes to judge it as truly negative.
I agree that, in the biological sense, it is a physical impairment because it is a loss of a sense. However, I feel that there has been an overemphasis on 'hearing' or 'not hearing' as defining the be all or end all of anyone's happiness or indeed character - cognitive, emotional or otherwise. As far as this video's concerned for me, it's about showing the sense of community and the deaf's opinion of their own perceptions - showing a voice (excuse the pun) that may not have been heard before. This has been extremely valuable for me as I too am guilty of neglecting another group's own perspective. However, ultimately, it's up to the individual whether they wish to remain deaf or take on surgery/treatment/hearing aids to do otherwise - this to me represents no right or wrong, but simply a judgement expressed on behalf of one's own individual value system.
Although it can be said that Austin Garrett is communicating clear fact and knowledge, without trying to discriminate against those who are deaf, I feel that his tone of voice is not respectful. He has not given any due recognition to the perspective presented in this video - which has also been clearly supported by many others, glancing upon their comments prior to this latest set of comments.
I am afraid that this is not only an intellectual debate; there are communities of people with their own perceptions, feelings and, most importantly, personal evaluations of their current situation - considering clear fact and knowledge, in addition to their own experiences as a human being as well. Whether one feels something is progress, beneficial or non-beneficial is utterly at one's own discretion. This is a value judgement and, as such, is subjective. One cannot force another to draw the same conclusion as oneself, one can only present the facts, the logic and our own evaluations in the hope that others may see our perspective.
I apologise myself as I, myself without seeming hypocritical, have probably come across less than tactful, but I really felt like expressing my own opinion in all of this - but wishing to completely acknowledge the validity of others' as well, including Mr. Garrett's.
For the record, I also feel that Mr. Garrett's opinion has been attacked unfairly and the language used to counter his comments are also below respectable by Pharlik. Offensive language rarely leads to reasonable discussion or true consideration of one's own viewpoint.
It can be seen as a disability because if your dream is to be a lifeguard, or a police officer, or a firefighter, you're going to be disqualified as you won't be able to hear people yelling for help or instructions being yelled when every millisecond counts.
@@katymvt Funny thing is, Chef actually makes an interesting point about this notion in season one. He talks about how we're all limited in dreams and career options, and how being built a certain way, disabled or not, will preclude you from a lot of professions. As someone who is HOH, however, I see deafness as a disability going off of the social model of disability. For the medical model, more often than not, it's a side-effect, rather than a full disability in and of itself (i.e. Katie Leclerc has diagnosed Ménière's disease, I have permanent damage from chronic ear infections and suspected Ménière's disease). Balancing the medical model (i.e. your body is disabled because of illness) and the social model (you are disabled by society's unwillingness to provide accommodations and accept different bodies) is a tricky thing to do.
I'm profound deaf, and I'd take that pill in an instant if I could.
Do you know sign language to communicate?
*THE HEARING PEOPLE COMMENTING IN THIS VIDEO THAT DON’T UNDERSTAND DEAF CULTURE ARE SO ANNOYING!!!*
I agree
Yes too
Deaf gain is defined as a refraiming from deaf as a form of sensory and cognitive diversity that has the potential to contribute to the greater good of humanity Very interesting!
i wouldn't chose to hear properly (born hard of hearing,eventually will go deaf). its who i am. it forms part of my identity and i will not change that just to be "normal".
+Robyn McLaughlin , hearing aids and cochlear implants so not make us hear as good as you. It is hard to understand since you were born with your hearing, I've been this way all my life. Judging something you don't understand, is typical for a hearing person. Audism, look it up.
im not a hearing person and i have looked it up many times ive read from both sides talked to people who hve ci and who dont its just my personal preferance but i wouldnt judge anybody who chose to have one. i didnt mean for what to come across that way sorry. i have autism sometimes what isay gets mixed up
+Robyn McLaughlin One normal is very over ratted so don't worry about it and half of what I have posted is going to be taken out of context anyway. People who get it understand and those who don't never will. I understand that with my ADHD and Bipolar. I can hear but I took ASL 1 and got introduced to the Deaf Community and Culture and it is a different feeling when you want to talk and you can't. Nothing to be offended about.
I raised a profoundly deaf middle dtr to become a professional, a spokeswoman and an advocate for all disabled, not just the deaf-- - she is an eloquent and articulate , precise, and persuasive "speaker" in her native language. Today she is 28, and a productive member of her community, of which I am proud. I wouldn't have it any other way! Sure, there have been trials and struggles along the way for both of us. Who has emerged is a wonderful, capable, loving adult with integrity and compassion.
Here is a spiritual path for you. We choose our parents and our life blueprint before they come into this world, to gain perspective. We do not know it, but we are the fallen angels , who come to the incarnate to know our deepest Higher Self better, to find our lost aspects. We find those aspects through the trials of experience. We are not here to get it easy, to sit back, to have a perfect life . We are here to learn, to give, to contribute to the knowledge and experience base of the world, and grow, be the leading edge of thought.
"In the last analysis, we see only what we are ready to see, what we have been taught to see. We eliminate and ignore everything that is not a part of our prejudices.~ Jean-Martin Charcot....."The experience doesn't matter- the growth matters. "All that we have thought, we become." - Buddha.
sorry I meant "before we come into this world". I had changed the wording and missed this.
I have hearing aids and I'm actually glad they make me hear better ... I still enjoy listening to music for example, so I'm kinda glad of not being completely deaf and still be able to hear things as music. Being deaf or having another disability shouldn't be seen as making you an inferior person, and it's a good thing accepting yourself, that's hard enough sometimes. Still, if my hearing would get worse, I'd go for a better hearing aid or an implant if that helps. Maybe it's different when you're born without a sense and don't know it any different.
Im profoundly deaf and i listen to music...hmmm...
people... it's just another way of speaking. Just imagine it as another language, because that's what it is
Whoa this is exactly what they teach in my interpreting classes!
i love this show so much
I'm trying to follow the signs but the captions are making me read them.
i think the point they are trying to make clear is that being deaf is not just a disability it's who they are and they shouldn't have to be ashamed of it or let people put them down because of it. i knew kids that where deaf and they where such joy to be around they where always happy to teach me some sign language and they tried to communicate with me
Thanks for posting one of my favorite scenes. I can't wait for the show to return in the beginning of June. I miss being able to watch new episodes every single week. I love watching reruns, but you can only watch those for so long, you know? I guess I just need to be patient since it's coming back real soon.
Switched at Birth!! one of my fav programs atm!
I feel like it's not about what you lost but what you've overcome. Just like african-americans. We don't celebrate slavery but we do learn our history and embrace how we over came it.
I always loved this scene.
hello i am a worker out at walmart and sometimes i see deaf people and sometimes i try to communicate with them i myself am not deaf but hearing and i want you deaf people to know that i am here for you! i want to learn your language and i want to learn how to communicate with the deaf !i want to be your friend :) i have watched this video and it made me think about the deaf and about the community! and the perspective and the way you identify :) i have learned so much! but want more!
Then try to learn about Deaf culture.
THANK YOU!! I am an aide in an ASL class and the teacher asked if I could find a switched at birth clip of deaf culture. This helped so much thank you!!!!
This isn't intended as trolling in any way shape or form but I'm wondering: with that classroom setup, would the students at the back actually be able to follow the signing of students in front of them if they can only see their backs? It makes me wonder if this TV show is made by deaf people or by hearing people. Because if it's a show made about deaf people by hearing people then I feel like it walks the line between compassionate and patronising. Is the sentiment genuine or have the creators used a disability as an easy way to pull at the heartstrings?
I think it would be really hard for them to follow the signs. In my ASL class my teacher had us set up in a circle so we could all see each other sign, and whenever I went to deaf events with my class seating was normally in a circle as well, because being able to see the signs clearly is important. While I've never watched the show, one of the major complaint I've seen about it from people who are deaf/hoh and know ASL is that they tend to cut away from whoever is signing or otherwise not show the signs fully, making it really hard to understand the sentences. It's definitely made by hearing people in order to pull at the heartstrings.
Its made by mostly hearing people. A lot of the deaf community feel torn about the show because while we're finally getting representation, the show itself is still mostly filmed with the hearing in mind rather the deaf. As an example, notice how the camera switches from the teacher to the students while the teacher is still signing
These classes typically arrange their table in a circle unless there's a whiteboard presentation or something...
I think it's a production limitation. If they had the students in a circle, where would they put the cameras? It's kind of like how on TV everyone sits at the dinner table in a semi-circle instead of going all the way around.
These actors are deaf except the red head.
They actually are set in a circle mostly when it’s interactive for the show. They didn’t this scene though.
The directors are hearing and the writers.
Every other scene where the students are encouraged to interact in the lesson they are in a circle. Maybe not every but in a lot of them.
These actors are deaf. The main character though is not but has meneires disease and has days she cannot hear at all.
Thats Marlee Matlin who played the mother in CODA
I guess it's different if you have a large Deaf community that you have access to. And also there is a difference between being just Deaf and Deaf plus. As in having an intellectual disability as well.
So the clip is actually from S2E6, Human/Need/Desire, btw. I thought it was This is Not a Pipe from the description but nope.
I’m adhd and bipolar been since the fourth grade and I’m 45 now. Normal people get on my nerves thinking we are different and less. We see thing through a lens that others don’t see or in this case here
The girl who got multiple shots definitely didn't agree with everything. She had to pretend not disagreeing because of she was in the community. . .
Zhe Wang you should watch the show to understand the story of that scene. It’s called “Switched At Birth.”
to learn easy first, search signing time with alex and leah, it's mainly for kids, but it teaches the basics first and you can go on from there
I love this scene ❤ #signlanguage
About the pill thing, I think a Deaf person would MAYBE take it but just out of curiosity. I feel like they'd see another world they have never experienced before but know where they really belong. Deaf community, Deaf culture is a part of who they are. Every Deaf person knows that. You find out who you are through the times you have succeeded. For them, maybe when they learnt Sign Language or ect. I think they would take the pill, but after a while, they'd would wish they hadn't only because they lost a part of who they really are? Just an opinion, don't eat me
Some may but many wouldn't. You have to understand the culture and being educated on the history of Deafness to fully know what being Deaf means to person.
If there was a pill for me to not be deaf anymore, I'd take it. No second thoughts about it. I've got a few videos on my channel about my deafness, if people are interested.
I'm hard of hearing, my son's also hard of hearing and my mother's deaf xD
nice to meet you as well.
Awwh. I remember her from the L word.
Amazing video! Thank you for sharing!!
i can hear but i have high functioning autism and i barely speak to anyone expect the three persons i trust but i had problem with speech before age of 3 all others i dont speak with and instead use sign language in my case i find sign ALOT easier and safer i think its ok for people with autism and speech strugle to use sign language and not only for the deaf right??
Yes absolutely. In fact, a lot of people are beginning to strongly encourage parents to teach their hearing children infant sign because you can communicate and understand manually before orally.
Hi, I'm writing an essay about Deaf Gain and I'm using this clip. Does anyone know what season and episode this is from? Any info would be super helpful, thanks! :)
Switched at Birth Season 2 Episode 6: "Human/Need/Desire"... Oops, 5 months ago. A bit late.
Read more: www.tvfanatic.com/quotes/not-hearing-loss-deaf-gain/#ixzz318vbFdn1
truer words were never spoken..
The name of movie pls?
which episode is this from?
love that poin slivelionheart7. i am hearing, but i have several deaf friends and while communication is not always the easiest we make it work, they are patient with me especially considering i can "talk" better than understand.
who is the name of the woman who says hearing as the norm??????
I'm not deaf but i do have ADD and 100% know what they are talking about havd many people when they found out get REAL weird around me unless they had it too then we start talking abou you can tell who's like us and who's not cause when we group up our convos jump fast and often
Darkest Argentum I have ADHD and I am also taking asl. I’m telling you it’s not the same. Sure people love pointing out our hyperactive or distracted moments but hearing people often refuse to learn the natural language of the deaf, asl, even for their own deaf children. The point of this is that they have a community with its own art forms, it’s own struggles, it’s own inside jokes and stories, and everyone shares a connection. However, even though they don’t see it as a disability, hearing people do and we try to force everyone to adapt to the oral method. While you and I might not trade in our unique traits that come from add/adhd for a life without its disadvantages, the deaf experience is far different.
This is kinda nice but it's a willing spirit to connect with people and bond that created the community,
hearing loss was just the way they got there, that could have also happened if they all happened to enjoy a particular book series.
Given that, If they could take a pill to get hearing, why wouldn't they want to restore that? They will still be friends and that's what they found was most important anyway.
And if they need something to relate to, they can all remember how they were blessed by the miracle of what Community can do in the area of medicine and biomechanics. : )
Max Schellenberg because Deafness is important to them. there's a reason there's such a huge controversy over cochlear implants, you know.
+Max Schellenberg, even with aids, we still cannot hear like you. If you want to better connect, learning the language is the key.
+Christina Beierel I'm not saying aids will make you hear like a perfectly functioning ear can or that I'm trying to connect better. Sorry you missed my point, try re-watching the video and rereading my comment.
If someone invented a pill that could change your gender, would you take it.
Elaini Young that is different I bet you that ppl that used to hear and went deaf would take it because they know what it's like to hear
You could play this! Ask a teacher ! They might agree and you can make big changes arround your school
who is the woman that says hearing as the norm ??
충격적이다 이렇게 생각할 수도 있구나 그리고 이걸 드라마로 만들 수도 있구나 너무 신기하다
wowwww
MARLEE WONDERFUL :)
Was this filmed before desegregation or...
if i could play this to everyone in my school, maybe people will learn a little something. its not a loss, no, and there needs to be much much more understanding
This scene seems really fake. I can hear, but I would imagine that a class of deaf kids would sit in a ring or something. How are they supposed to have a class discussion sitting like that? If they need to see each other signing, you can't have some kids sitting behind someone else. How is Daphne supposed to be able to tell what the guy in front of her is saying?
what season and episode is this clip from?
Why does it appear that Daphne have never truly grasped Deaf pride or Deaf culture? Plus, she has had boyfriend after boyfriend that force her to lip read while they make little to no effort to learn ASL. In the end, I'm grateful that SAB has other Deaf characters that aren't weak links. By the way, her character makes it appears that all Deaf people can accurately lip read which is false.
+John “SkeeBall81” Lake She is the one that is constantly struggling with being stuck in between both worlds, hearing and Deaf. She has the cochlear, which makes her not-quite-Deaf but she still identifies with the culture and can't really hear like a "normal" person and has limitations because of that, so she's just conflicted a lot of the time, and is constantly being portrayed as a community-betrayer for it. I feel like that's just a different perspective they're showing, completely different from Emmet who is completely Deaf and doesn't have that stuck in the middle issue, and from that one dude whose name I don't remember who was losing his hearing. Completely different perspectives.
+sassylobsterhands My bad, she has hearing aids, not the cochlear, that's a whole thing in the first episode. But that's even more reason for her to be stuck, because she can only hear some things and needs multiple forms of input to REALLY get the message; so she CAN hear when people are speaking to her but she says many times that she needs the person to be facing her so she can see their lips and get cues, not just read straight up.
John Lake so why do her boyfriends have to learn sign? if deaf people say they aren't different from us hearing people why do we have to change ourselves for them why can't they change for us for e.g the cochlear implant (if it would work) it doesn't matter what people say deaf people tell themselves they wouldn't change even if they could but that's only because they don't know what it's like to hear if they did they would they tell themselves that because they have accepted the fact that they're deaf and they don't want to go back to hating the fact that they can't hear
She's not a weak link because she doesn't see herself first and foremost as Deaf. She accepts it but it doesn't define her. There's nothing wrong with everyone else, but there's nothing wrong with her either.
my favorite scene
What a nice video! We're deaf hearts.
What is it like when you are d/Deaf? I have been told that you can feel some vibrations, but other than that I don't anything about that 'experience'. I'm not exactly sure how to put it... Also: Why wouldn't d/Deaf people want to take the hypothetical pill? Wouldn't you be curious about how things 'sound'?
I'm curious, and I don't want to offend anyone with this post. I'm extremely sorry if I did offend you.
Jessica Kellgren-Fozard has a lot of videos talking about her experience of being deaf!
Great job to everyone on Switched at Birth. Check out Daniel N. Durant who plays Matthew on SAB. Follow him on facebook, twitter and Letsgofly08 here on RUclips!!
While we do have community, perspective, and identity, they are not the most important things in life. God is, and at the Day of Christ, we who believe in Him will be given a perfect body, with perfect hearing and perfect sight, I believe we'll know all languages and sign languages. I love being Deaf, yes, but I would want to hear because I love both hearing and deaf people, and I want a relationship with all of them, not just Deaf people.
hi tia!!!!! are you hearing or deaf ? nice to meet you by the way :)
Here is what I don't understand about religious people. You "spout" that god is perfect and makes you perfectly in his image yet you would change something about yourself so quickly. Just because you feel that jesus christ is the most important thing in your life doesn't mean it has to be in everyone elses.
now google those clips of when a deaf baby hears its mothers voice for the first time. look at the joy and amazement on its face & tell me you think it is somehow better off being deaf
the attitude shown in this clip is almost akin to body dysmorphia but without the outward physical signs
+This is ̶ ̶a̶l̶3̶6̶9̶9̶..GOOGLE'S CHANNEL Videos like this are what I like to call "inspiration porn." The video does not show them "hearing" for the first time. it shows them reacting to something different. The realiity is that the process is painful, takes a lot of therapy, is successful only a SMALL percentage of the time, and has led to infections, illnesses, seizures, and even death. I would not trade being Deaf for being able to hear. If you don't understand this, then you clearly haven't taken the time to interact with Deaf people and learn our culture, language, and history. That being said, you thus have no right to say something like this.
+Alan Wilding Yes, the different thing they're reacting to is called 'sound'.
So you think that as a hearing person my opinion is void?
That would make you as narrow minded as the above video portrays you to be. You might as well have said "Stephen Hawkings? Pah! What would that cripple know?"
You might think I don't understand your position but as an example, if I lived on a planet where 90% of the population were born with the ability of flight but I couldn't fly & I was told, like in the video, there was a pill that could give me the ability to fly, damn straight I would take it. Literally the ONLY reason that would prevent me from taking a medicine that could improve my life would be an irrational fear of the unknown.
What I wouldn't do is outright reject all medical & scientific advancements like some kind of religious nutter then use my inability to fly to create a cult of like-minded nutters calling ourselves 'Walkers'.
What you do about your deafness is entirely your choice but what if your child was born deaf? Bearing in mind the example of the 'no- fuss' pill in the video, would you deny it to them?
That would put you squarely in the same camp as Jehova Witnesses that deny their kids blood transfusions or those other nutters that refuse to vaccinate their kids.
While deaf people do have things in common with other deaf people, deaf people are not a separate culture, tribe or class, apart from all of the 'Normies' they're people that happen to be deaf.
P.S. just because YOU can't hear my words that does not mean I'm not allowed to speak.
Oy. No, I would never take a pill to make myself hearing nor would I give my Deaf child a pill. You also clearly have no idea about the Deaf community. We do have a separate culture, class, traditions, and language. Do some research.
+Alan Wilding But it shouldn't be your decision it's your child's.
+This is ̶ ̶a̶l̶3̶6̶9̶9̶..GOOGLE'S CHANNEL No I think he said yoiu need to take some time and learn about their history and culture nothing about you or me being hearing
0:13 - 0:15 Huh, that's getting confusing now. "Your child the hearing failed" but same time, caption saying "Your child failed the hearing test". Honestly i apologize for being confused, but i am deaf, i'm 16 years old. Please don't ask me why.
ASL and spoken English have different syntax.
0:13 0:51
you would say that you can sign better than understand.
Video tried to contradict hearing as being the norm but it IS the norm hence why we have ears, ear drums, etc.
What do you mean deaf gain? You are already deaf. You meant: SILENCE GAIN!
It doesn't matter what you lose or gain in your life, we all have one big common: human being. I care more about the kindness, positivity and gratitude.
I would love if you subscribe me, I am gonna share what you want to see! About my world of silence, perspective and funny videos. Love!
Ps. I wear CI & hearing device only for important situations but I love my deaf identity!
Thank you,
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Is it just me or does it seem like the red head Girl didn’t agree???
it how we feel in the autism coummunity when peole say cuyre or typplical people want toi change us they dont understand we are broken it not easy but im not sad
Include a dub next time please. I need an accommodation here.
Aw I am watch ... My Herat all world was deaf !!!
*hands waving*
Also, my identify is FIRST in Jesus Christ, not my deafness. There are some holes in the propaganda spouted out by the Deaf community to help Deafies cope with life as a Deaf person, but I do agree that Deafness has its blessings. While we do have community, i
Rebel Captain that’s your belief not this person’s. Be respectful like you would respect those who are Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim, etc.
SaphiraFashion brought me here
Mee too..omg! The "no ass" rant. She has a point tho
What video?
deaf ppl only say that cause they don't know what it's like to hear but if they knew they would do it
Would you wanna change into a man?
you only say that cause you're hearing and don't know what its like to be deaf
sure, but erm... I'm pretty sure a deaf person would take that pill.
I'm deaf and I would never take that pill
Zantier Ta'sa lots of Deaf (the capital D is important) people would not. Deaf culture is a thing even if you aren't aware of it.
No, actually many wouldn't
torako they would if they knew what it was like to hear
Would you change genders because someone told you "You don't know what you're missing out on".
This just seems really stupid to me hearing is an essential part of the the human physique if i couldn't hear anymore that would be awful and they just talk about it like wow it's a great treat it gives you friends everywhere you go so like basically any other thing that makes you slightly special that other people have too for example If I read a certain book on a train and someones like oooh i like that author too and then you have a topic to talk about and maybe you get to be friends it's a thing that connects two people on a basis so they get closer and might become friends like Religion or being in a Fandom so thats not special it's really nothing to be happy about there are enough things that make each and everyone individual and special that don't involve a lack of anything physical.
Hey I've lost a Leg now that's great now I'm friends with all onelegged people and it makes me special weeeeeh...
Okay, I understand what you're trying to say, but try to look at it this way. Stay with me for a moment. Let's say you have something, something that not everyone has, and you've had it from birth. Because of this thing, society as a whole treats you like a child, like you need to be taken care of, like your life is terrible and so difficult. But in reality, your life is great. You're not this "poor thing" that people assume. you have a huge network of friends. They don't treat you like an inept toddler. You're surrounded by people who understand you, and because of that, you don't need that thing that other people say you "lack". Would you give that up to be like the people who never understood you from the start? Believe it or not, Deaf Community is a huge thing. Before I started taking ASL, I had no idea it even existed. So uh. Yeah.
oh, and also, I was born allergic to peanut butter. I've never tasted it before, but I know what it smells like and just smelling it makes my stomach turn because it smells like anaphylactic shock and death. But every time I tell someone, they get all dramatic and say "OH YOU POOR THING, YOU CAN NEVER EAT PEANUT BUTTER CUPS." and i'm just like "um okay". obviously this is not nearly as huge of a deal as being deaf is, i get that. but things are different when you're born a certain way.
fauxwoe scent doesn't define taste so you still don't know if you would like the taste
I'm all up for equality and what not, but this is just ridiculous. How about we all pick a sense and take it away, because you are not taking something away. You are gaining something! ... Uhm?!
Why is there music playing in the background btw?
im assuming because its targeted at both deaf and hearing people but without the music would appeal to only one of those groups. it is kind of hypocritical though haha
i am aware you wrote this 2 months ago, but i thought i'd answer anyways.
the reason there is music playing in the background is because its a scene from a show, a good one at that.
ok :)
Why are they gaining Deafness? Because Deaf people have a culture. It is not about what you dont have. Sure Deaf people don't have hearing but they DO have friends. They DO have a culture. They ARE happy Deaf.
P.S: they have music so hearing people don't freak out when the TV doesnt make noise
Actually the students are using something called Non Manual Markers. Not random noises. :) NMM are a part of ASL :D Alison Smith
"We're deaf first, last, and always. No one else knows who they are."
You poor kid; you have it backwards. There's a lot more to life than being deaf. There's also a lot more to you than being deaf. You might even discover what that is, if you can stop obsessing over yourself. Try to think of people other than in terms of deaf vs. hearing.
“There’s a lot more to life than being deaf”
Yeah and why don’t most hearing people see like that? It’s always about being deaf making us a big problem for most hearing people. 😢 our biggest problem is ignorant people not being deaf. We are not obsessed over ourselves for speaking out. If you’re treated like that every day of course you think like that.
i like the part where she said.......oh nvm
This is fucking disrespectful. Shame on you.
I understand how Deaf people can feel separation and judgment, and how they are not "lesser" for being Deaf, and that they're just normal independent people like everyone else.
However, being Deaf literally means you have a disability. It means the important sense of hearing is malfunctioning or missing when it should be working, and there are pretty big problems because of that. It's just a fact.
It's not a "disability" in terms of intellectual power or independence and contribution to society, but it is a disability because something important is broken, and there are things they can't do that hearing people can.
All this to say: I understand the issue, but Deaf people should stop antagonizing hearing people and stop victimizing themselves and be positive. Hearing people need to be educated, not shamed for things they don't understand.
Hearing kids dont know who they are? Are you fucking kidding me?
Meaning that they don't know who they are in society, or what clique they belong in.
The deaf are blessed because they don't have to hear all the grunts, moans and saliva noises they make while waving their hands arouns.
The part with the pill is kinda stupid, sorry. I'm sure everyone would have put their hands up.
Of course I like what you want to tell, and be proud of just who you are, but not taking it...
Taking the pill means hearing. Everything. There are so many sounds to hear. Not only communicate and hearing your mothers voice for the first time.
And all the points are mostly easier to get with hearing.
Just because one is deaf, doesn't give the person friends anywhere you go. (putting aside the personality of the person, because THAT gives you the ability to make friends) You need to speak the same language, even sign language is not the same (a lot don't even know that)
If both don't speak the same language then there is body language, deaf and hearing are able to understand most of it
the third point... I don't want to reduce myself that much. It's a part of me and not who I am. Or I am just misunderstanding the "who you are" part.
fourth... really? being deaf isn't making me unice, just the way hearing doesn't too. And yes, they have more. The ability of hearing is a sense hearing people have more.
Nice try but, nope the arguments of them were %#!
Is this an opinion or have you actually asked a handful of "D"eaf people this question?
If I was offered the pill, I wouldn't take it.
What they're saying about having friends everywhere you go is that Deaf people become friends easier than hearing people . We meet someone else that is Deaf and we become friends almost instantly. You dont need to speak the same language to be friends. I have friends that dont speak my language. I dont speak theirs. Technology is a wonderful thing.
A lot of people who are Deaf (as in culturally Deaf) would disagree with you strongly; I certainly do and so would all the Deaf people I know.
I would not change my hearing status for the world
If you didn't know....Deaf people...are happy Deaf. They don't want to be cured they don't want to be hearing they want to be Deaf. They would not take the pill. Learn about Deaf culture then rethink your comment.
Fëanor I'm a teacher of the deaf. When I asked both my deaf and Deaf kids, not one of them said they'd take it. I have taught kids who have other disabilities as well who say they would change those parts of themselves, but none of my kiddos would change being deaf. They are truly proud of who they are as d/Deaf individuals.
Fëanor You're right. The only reasons deaf people don't want to be cured if because they don't know what it's like to have healthy hearing. Deaf culture is a cesspit of denial and ignorance. They're like the blind man who refuses to believe that there is such a thing as sight and thinks everyone else is just playing a prank on him because he can't conceive of what sight would be like.
This video has been empowered with stupid gain.
You think that because a person is comfortable or actually like being Deaf, they are stupid?
Okay whoa, this is going way too far. I'm all for being positive and not letting a disability make you believe that you are a less than worthy person and incapable of living a good life, but not being able to hear is still a loss. Hearing is a physical capability that a deaf person should have been born with but wasn't. Again that is no one's fault, but It is *NOT* the same as being born a certain race or gender or sexuality.
What's even more harmful (and ironic) about this mindset is that what this does is essentially reduce people to their disability. You know, the thing we shouldn't be advocating? You are not your disability. Your disability should never define you as a person. And this way of thinking is creepy.
It only seems that way to you because you are hearing. I know that if you were to wake up tomorrow and you couldn't hear, it would be devastating. Like something has been taken from you. But, for most Deaf people, they can't feel mad about something they've never had to begin with. And, although, being Deaf does not define a person, as whole, it's a huge part of what makes them who they are. Going off the same analogue, if someone invented a pill that could turn you into the opposite sex, would you take it? I'm assuming you wouldn't, because being your gender is an important part of what makes you who you are. For Deaf people, it's the same way with hearing.
@@Elaini.Young24 Okay, here's another analogy: I'm left-handed. If I were given a pill that would make me right-handed, of course I wouldn't take it because why would I? Even if I use the opposite of what the majority use to write with, I can still write and function and communicate literally the same as everyone else, just with a different hand. But say if I had *no hand at all* and I was given a pill that would make me grow it back, then you might get a different answer. That's what I meant when I said it's a loss. If someone wants to get help with their hearing loss but gets discouraged and judged by those in the deaf community who act as if wanting the ability to hear things better is a "betrayal" to their deaf identity (again, there is more to your identity than just your disability) and how they're squandering their "deaf gain", *that* is disturbing. This isn't about wanting to be "normal" it's about wanting to be *able* .
@@CT63648 1. NEVER call Deaf people disabled. EVER!
2. You're saying hearing loss. And yes in some cases people loose their ability to hear due to injury, illness, old age, etc. So yes, if you suddenly found yourself without an ability you have become accustomed to for most, if not, all your life, of course it would be devastating and you'd want it back. But for many Deaf people they were born without the ability to hear, so to use the phrase "Help with their hearing loss" is kind of a misrepresentation, because some never had any to loose to begin with.
3. If you knew anything about Deaf culture or the Deaf community in general, you'd know that Deaf people are just as able to do anything hearing people can. There is not a profession, hobby or activity that excludes Deaf people.
But someone who is deaf *is* disabled. Being *UNABLE* to HEAR or WALK or SEE, etc., that's called *having* *a* *physical* *disability* . That's not an insult, that's a fact. It's also not an indication of someone's worth as person either, as I've stated before. You are misconstruing what I'm saying. I also never said that deaf people couldn't do anything. Only that certain situations and activities might be more difficult to work around if there is no one accommodating. There's also the issue of the language barrier between deaf and hearing people who don't know ASL or deaf people who have trouble reading lips. Also if you can't hear an emergency vehicle coming towards you, or someone calling for help, that's a problem. Compared to if you were born a certain race or sexuality, the difficulties you may have would be purely societal discrimination based on superficial features or gender preference that you have which have no impairment whatsoever. Whether or not someone wants to get extra help with their disability is their personal choice, I'm not even arguing with that. Only that by saying that having a disability is a "gain" is just as much of a toxic cultish lie as saying that having a disability makes one stupid and worthless. It's a fraction of a person's life that shouldn't be put on a pedestal any more than it should be condemned.
@@CT63648 But, saying a Deaf person is "disabled" is considered disrespectful in their culture. I've met people who have said that they consider being called disabled is equivalent of calling a black person the "n" word; you just shouldn't do it, it's rude and disrespectful. Also, there if you are saying their is nothing to gain from being different from the rest of the world, then clearly you haven't experienced much of the world. And as far as the whole ambulance scenario, a Deaf person may not be able to hear the sirens, but they can see the lights, in their rear view, they can also see the other cars pull off to the side. Deaf people may not do the things, in the same way as hearing people, but they can still DO the same things.
bullshit hearing ppl know who they are and
I have hearing aids and I'm actually glad they make me hear better ... I still enjoy listening to music for example, so I'm kinda glad of not being completely deaf and still be able to hear things as music. Being deaf or having another disability shouldn't be seen as making you an inferior person, and it's a good thing accepting yourself, that's hard enough sometimes. Still, if my hearing would get worse, I'd go for a better hearing aid or an implant if that helps. Maybe it's different when you're born without a sense and don't know it any different.