This guy always gives "credit where credit is due." He can trash a team's overall prospects but still reports on what they have done well. This is a lot more even-handed that what you get from other people who analyze the game.
Except his favorite team a lot of the time😅😂 except that mainly comes from him wanting to be as unbiased and straight up as possible, so it’s not really a negative thing at all
@@mrtheminecraftminer1 He must have a different "favorite team" every other day, then, because this is the type of analysis he gives to every team. Just give him the credit he deserves.
@@Unknown17 “that comes from wanting to be as unbiased and straight up as possible” I didn’t think I also needed to get down on my knees for him🤣 I said enough to know pretty easily it was in no way a rude or negative comment
As a lifelong saints fan this is painful but facts. There’s nothing to be excited about these next few years. All great teams fall apart at some point, but the slow death of the Brees-era roster is much more painful than if they just ripped the band-aid off and had young exciting players.
Is MT one of them “painful” losses? He was a cancer that needed to go and they were better off last year after he got hurt. The Saints have a good mixture of old and young players. Davis is still playing at a high level. Cam fell off some because of injuries last year. Matthieu is at the last stage of his career but he is valuable as a leader (unlike MT) and he was instrumental in convincing Chase Young in coming to the Saints. And Kubiak will revitalize the offense even more and is so excited to have a proven franchise QB with great arm talent in Carr to throw to those young receivers.
@@geoffhoutman1557 Carr is a tremendous competitor and has at least 8 more years with the Saints so you might as well stop with the ridiculous groupthink and just accept it.
@@geoffhoutman1557 Carr just turned 33 March 28. Get to know your QB. In 8 years he will be 41. If Carr wants to he can still be playing into his 40’s. Another interesting Carr fact is this. They say a good QB is supposed to elevate his team. This is true, but he can only take his team so far. For instance, the most number of games that any team has won with a defense that gave up at least 30 points a game was 5. Carr won 8 games with the Raiders in 2020. That year the Raiders defense was historically bad. They gave up 30+ points a game average and had less sacks and turnovers than the 82 Lions. This just in. Football is a team sport. The best 3 pure passers back in my day were Marino, Moon and Fouts. Between the 3 of them they have no SB victories. If all it took was a great QB to win it all, Marino would have at least 10 SB’s. And Saints fans ought to know this. Y’all think Brees walked on water and he only has one. In fact the Peyton/Brees golden era that y’all look back with such nostalgia that you think they did nothing wrong and judge DA off of it when he has a 9-8 season - that Payton/ Brees era had 3 straight 7-9 seasons, another 7-9 and a 8-8 season.
The Saints are a great example of what continuing to kick the can down the road will eventually lead to. They should have blown the roster up and reset the franchise when Brees retired. Instead theyve been tryinf to keep the corpse alive and have been spinning in circles ever since.
They just keep delaying the inevitable for some reason, they just need to do what the Cardinals did and just blow it all up, admit defeat for a season, maybe two at this point because of how deep a hole they are in cap and picks wise
@@Kyle-bi7dffacts bro they keep trying to reload their roster just to be mid and 7-9 just rebuild go very bad for a season or two trade your veterans get a lot of draft picks and go forward from there
@@Kyle-bi7df Bad management. Simple as that. Should be heading into year 3 of full rebuild by now, haven't even started it yet, crippled for 2+ years to come with bad contracts. As a fan I hate Monkey Lupus.
Cam Jordan is in the end of his career, that what's really bad Kamara has 7 seasons under his belt, that's also scary for a RB. Another great leader - Demario Davis - is 35 yrs old!! Team for sure needs 2 great drafts in a row to be a contender, at least to replace some of those pieces that will be gone one way or the other
@@codyb1909tell me you don’t follow football without telling me. Sean retired with no plan to come back the Saints had control of his contract so thankfully got trades
Our projected win total O/U is at 7.5 bro, Vegas expects us to be bad😂. Considering our line opened at 9.5 last year, this is concerning. The team has a lot of question marks.
@@themattcepeda7233at the end of the day the team is trying to win a Super Bowl right? The way this team is constructed right now they not beating the Cowboys(they play next year) eagles, 49ers, lions, etc. let alone making the SB they not beating KC Bills Ravens etc stuck in limbo
@@GTBreezy Mickey Loomis has been kicking this can for years on end now. We were better off never signing Carr and just drafting/developing a rookie talent and gearing up to be great in future seasons.
Excellent video, and that’s coming from a Saints fan. A lot of extra points on not mentioning the salary cap which is WAY too easy and yet complicated “Go to”. Also, loved the joke at 8 minutes in whether is was referring to Derek Carr’s birthday or uhhh something else. 10/10. If anyone gets upset at him not mentioning the Salary cap, every general NFL fan knows about the Saints Salary cap. More importantly, Saints fans also know that it’s real but a Khai Harley in the front office softens (but not completely negate) the yearly salary cap issues.
As a Saints fan I agree with pretty much everything. I do think bringing in Klint Kubiak as OC will add a lot of juice to the offense, but we have to address the OL and we may have to draft 2 players if RR can't play. I wanted us to be able to make a luxury pick like Bowers or Brian Thomas if they fell to 14, but that's sadly no longer an option even if it does happen. What's crazy is our OL finished top 3 in sacks allowed but still graded out very badly. They got better during the last stretch of the season but were still atrocious early on. I really hope Penning can figure it out and at least become a starter. I'm not ready for that Eagles trade to be an even bigger disaster. He has to work.
As a longtime Saints fan, I have to say, I think the biggest problem is Dennis Allen. He is a good DC but a terrible HC, and he really dug his own grave when he apologized to the Falcons and threw his players under the bus for that final touchdown. For the players, that has to be the most demoralizing thing and would just make you hate the coach. Derek Carr is obviously capable of being a good (maybe not great) QB and can throw some crazy deep passes. Just look at his time with the Raiders. If he can get back to that form and we fire DA, we'll be OK. Let's get rid of Loomis while we're at it. Anyone who uses first round picks on Trevor Penning and Peyton Turner shouldn't be an NFL GM. Plus, I find his total faith in DA disturbing.
Wow great, GREAT video! Fantastic stuff, keep it up! I like when you have conclusions and lots of depth, where as some footbal videos analyze 4 plays from 1 game to make a conclusion about a team/player/offense
As a Saints fan, I have to agree with most of this.. The only thing I would push back on is calling Cousins "A much better QB" than Carr.. I think they are bout on the same level.. Another thing that is the fact that we pretty much didn't have an offensive coordinator last year.. Pete Carmichael made a career riding Sean Payton's coattails an it clear as day he has no business calling plays for a NFL team ever again, but I do like his replacement an I'm excited to see what Kubiak can do with this offense..
Not enough is said about how Pete Carmichael stood next to Sean Payton for 15 years and Drew Brees for 20 (since the San Diego era), yet when they were gone he wasn’t able to impart anything on the team. Kubiak may or may not be the solution, but letting Carmichael go released a lot of dead weight in the coaching staff.
As a Raider fan we saw Carr throw average of 24ish TDs per year. The Saints need to get the strongest OL to protect Carr. Ever since he broke his back he was never the same after. GL Saints.
his ankle*, but yeah saints were naive to give carr this contract. Carr is good, but elite is not one of them. He needs everything to be good around him to produce well.
@@koby1488 That right there is the most casual fan perspective someone can have. Needs everything around him to be good to produce? So, what about Mahomes? He had Kelce, Hill, and a top 10 OL when he won MVP. Also arguably the brightest offensive mind the NFL has ever seen as OC. This year he didn't have Hill, and his Numbers fell off a cliff. He still won the SB tho, bc KC has an elite defense. Replace that defense with a mediocre one, and KC goes 8-8 based on Mahomes level of play. So does he need everything good around him? How do you know? He's never not had it. Great QB's are in great situations. All of them. Give any QB a terrible defense, and they won't win. If they have a terrible defense for long enough, they won't be seen as elite. That's exactly what happened to Carr. Through the 9 years he played with the Raiders, he only had one defense finish as a top 20 defense, and it finished exactly 20th. The rest were all worse. Much worse. The saints defenses from '14-'16 weren't as bad as Carrs average defense with Raiders. That's how bad they were. Carr is actually only the 2nd QB in NFL history to win more than 7 games with a defense giving up 30+ PPG. Both teams won 8 games. Throughout Brady's career, his average defense ranked 7th best. That means I'm any given year, Brady was on a team with a nearly elite defense. THAT'S why he was so successful. BB was great at drafting and coaching defenses. Brady is the luckiest QB alive. Yeah, he was good, but there have been much better QB's who had the opposite luck. Marino was light years better than Brady and didnt win a single SB. Why? The teams around him. That's it. That's why only casual fans make the argument that a QB needs a great situation to be good. All QB's need a great situation to be successful. If it isn't, they aren't very successful, end of story.
That's not true at all. Carr broke his fibula in '16 and then his back in '17. He was at his absolute best in '19 and '20, and was on pace to shatter the NFL passing record by 2k in '22 until losing Gruden and Ruggs inevitably caught up to him. What we saw in '21 was Carr playing at an elite level, bc he had weapons and had been in the same systems for a few years. That means his ceiling is elite level, it's the team around him that's been holding him back. That being said, Carr and the saints are about to go on one hell of a 3-5 year run, assuming the can draft well enough to sustain it. You'll see.
@@jessegardner134 Idek why you're arguing with me. I'm a raiders fan and I I've had the pleasure and misfortune to watch carr. Your using other quarterbacks to compare him when all you need to do is watch him. He can't escape pressure that's undeniable, he doesn't extend the play, goes for checkdowns way to much. He limits the offense in a lot of ways. Like I said carr is good, but not great. He will only be as good as the team around him. It's not a casual take to say carr is bad and he needs a good team to be good. He had a good defense this year. I even forgot to mention he doesn't show up in the important games. Last year he was disappointing and he will this year to. I know carr enough for him to prove me right.
We should have kept Dennis Allen at defensive coordinator and hired someone new at head coach after Sean Payton left. Allen is just not head coach material but he was pretty legit as DC.
Homie spot on with your micro points !!! As a Saints fan, I really thought DC would be a legit QB signing. I agree on Allen assessment as well 🏈 ✌🏻🫶🏻 🏈
I initially thought the same. What changed was the game where Carr started 1) throwing to where the receivers *_should_* have been & 2) yelling at them about who knows what during the game as Allen looked on. 2, 3 weeks later the offense clicked. Carr was doing what his teammates like about him, Taking Charge like a QB should. & Allen _watched it play out_ & now Carmichael is gone? _Think_ about it. This team has needed to restart for years. Payton wasn't afraid to do it. He's doing it now in Denver at a way higher cost than what it would take for the Saints. We never know how much input owners who aren't vocal like Irsay or Jerry Jones have, but it seems obvious to me that the Saints owners are limiting what their coaches can do. Allen let it play out possibly to show ownership what a dud Carmichael was. If _Allen_ is forced to take on coaches he doesn't like or want, then it's likely Payton's hands were tied when there too. I realize that even at his best & in synch with the offense they're not winning the S-B with Carr, but he may have done something that will help the team, making it clear they are floundering. So clear even the obstinate owners might come to realize it.
@@DRFelGood*Am* I? I'm really just guessing. But I'm amazed at how many "fans" of the sport ignore everything but the highlight reels & wins. It's more me trying to figure out what the heck happened but I do like my guess. The Main Reason Josh McD had to get rid of him is that he's a leader & McD's ego can't stand that. But obviously I can't _know_ what went on on the field.
@@choosecarefully408. You were doing good until you said the Saints were “not winning the SB with Carr.” And why not? Why do people feel they have to qualify their statements about Carr? Is it to appease the haters? Carr is plenty good enough to win a SB. It does take a team to win it, otherwise Miami would have won at least 14 with Marino.
You should have been a fan in the 80's, sigh. I remember rooting for them back when half of the few people watching in the stadium were wearing paper bags over their heads...
As a Raider fan, I have watched every game Carr played for 9 seasons. He will play lights out in one game then the next look like he is scared. I think the entire team plays off his energy and that includes the defense. I am glad he isn't our problem anymore.
As a glass half full guy I continue to say Pete Carmichael was the problem. DA is a problem but not the problem with the offense. That being said, hope I am right. Super Bowl is a reach. Just lose games based on your opponents ability and not your inability to perform.
One thing I’ve started to realize is that in the NFL with the right leadership, a team can bounce back in only a few years. Just have to be smart and have a bit of luck
As a saints fan, what is this soundtrack? I need it to make theme songs for next season….cuz we ain’t doing much…only Klint Kubiak will have my attention on Sundays and we don’t even know if that will pan out 🤦🏾🤦🏾. Great video tho
The only NFL game I've been to as a fan was the shut out game against Carr when he was with the Raiders. I knew we weren't going anywhere once we signed him 😂
As a redskins fan I’d like to wish y’all saints fans luck. I’ve always marveled at Bree’s ability to clap at the goat (Brady). Also I hope they don’t trade taysom hill. Nobody has ever played his position. Utilitarian. Hella impressed.
They really should tear it down and start a rebuild. They have a lot of aging veterans, and they keep pushing money on their cap to the future just to field a very mediocre team the last few years.
For sure but we are stuck with Carr for at least this year now and tbh he did show improvement and real saints fans know that not these fake ass ones ruiz was bad after he got paid, mccoy been our only good o line the entire season with the Ryan injury and penning was ass, virtually had no tackles, no qb is going to perform with no tackles unless it’s mahomes or Brady…new scheme with kubiak hopefully he’s learnt a lot from big shanahan and we can get the best out of Carr and all our weapons with motion etc. I truly believe if we go tackle in the first which we should we will be fine and if kubiak can fix the offense will be set to take the division regardless of what Atlanta or Tampa do we’ve got the best defense in the division and ain’t no one arguing about that except other falcons or Tampa fans we know our d is better, kubiak fix the offense and we set
I always enjoy videos dumping on the Aints. One thing I don’t think you mentioned regarding their future was the cap situation. They aren’t in cap purgatory, they’re in cap hell. As long as they keep kicking that can down the road, they’ll be mediocre at best.
Nah I totally agree with this guy. Tha Saints have a pitch black future right now because they are in the worst possible position. Not good enough to be a contender, but also not bad enough to get a high draft pick.
They finished with the same record as the bucks who beat the eagles and they would of beat the eagles they really need another game changer a superstar
I think we were the best team that didn’t make the playoffs but I still don’t think we were good we just mid our only choice is to draft good even tho we don’t have many picks if not we’re gonna stay a 9-8 team. All we can do is pray as saints fans but ima still support em
The Saints situation is exactly what happens when you kick the can down the road for too long. Terrible coaching and FO decisions, I feel for my bayou brothers as the Texans had that same issue for way too many years under BoB.
Been a fan since I was a kid during the Aaron brooks days. This is one of the toughest times being a fan. Nothing going right recently and the future doesn’t look to be changing anytime soon.
the thing is we have a lot of underrated talent. We could 100% win the division considering we by far have the best d in the division. Offensively it just has to be pieced together. We have a new play caller so hopefully that does us some justice. 2 years ago I told people to remember the name, Rashid Shaheed. This year I want you all to remember the name, A.T PERRY. He will be our dark horse at WR
Yeah, this guy has to be a pessimist. Saints pass game was one of the best in the NFL over the last 6 games, and that was with the worst run game in the NFL. Carr proved he could carry the offense if need be, and look awesome doing it (once he got comfortable in the system). Saints defense is still good too. Not elite, but still top 10. That more than enough to contend if the offense plays well......and seeing that Carr already has timing built with his WR's, it shouldn't be long before the passing game is playing at an elite level again. This dude is seriously sleeping on Carr. Oh, and that BS that Carr didn't have a lot of suiters is complete hogwash. He had visits with 4 teams before visiting the saints, and 4 more scheduled for after. He met with the Jets, Carolina, Washington (I believe) and Chicago. He also had meetings set up with Seattle and Indy. I might be getting those mixed up, but he had plenty of interest.
My best prediction going into this last season was that both the Raiders and Saints would end the year with similar records and miss the playoffs. Carr is a perfect fit for the what the Saints were last season. I saw it for 9 years on the Raiders. One game he looks like a top 5 QB. The next, he looks like he doesn't know wtf he's doing
Carr lead the NFL in TD passes over the last 6 games last year, while also throwing the fewest picks. He was playing as well or better than any QB in the NFL over that stretch, despite having the worst run game in the NFL. That means he carried saints offense, and if you watched the games, you know that's true. Like any QB who switches teams, Carr needed time to adjust to the new system and WR's. Combine that with no run game at all and a terrible OL, and that explains the saints offense over the 1st half of the season. What Carr did in the 2nd half was elite, and he did it against a bunch of really good defenses too. Don't worry tho, Carr is about to get that respect back that the Raiders took from him with their terrible teams and incompetent coaching.
Outsiders perspective, New Orleans needs a franchise QB, an elite pass rusher and better pass blocking. That shouldn’t surprise anybody because those three things are what literally every NFL team has on its short list of needs most of the time. The Saints have a decent roster that totally hinges on the quality of play that they get from their QB. The challenge is that they haven’t finished poorly enough to be in a position to draft a difference maker at QB or edge in the last five years.
As a Saints fan, you have made some very good points which I agree with I have no faith in coach Allen or Derek Carr. I still bleed black and gold but I want them both gone.
Klint kubiak. Enough said Carr played behind a awful o line and under Pete who was washed af and barely even robin to Sean’s Batman. DA will be gone if we don’t make the playoffs again and so to mickey. We’ve had our time beating up on teams and the entire division it’s time to give the rest of the league a break!
Loomis hit the 2016 draft out of the park he’s been resting on that. Be done with Loomis and unfortunately Allen, who I love as a defensive head coach.
ngl as a saints fan i think next season will be dennis allens last as HC and the saints will draft their new franchise qb in 2025. This draft feels important for the saints because they need to get new players to put around the next qb and to replace the ageing vets.
I'm a Saint's fan and they should have easily won 11 games in 2023. That was about as easy of a schedule you can get in the NFL. In 2023, the NFC south was a battle for least trash team.
Oh yea. Those 4 7-9 seasons and one 8-8 season was amazing under Payton and Brees. DA goes from 7-10 to 9-8 and the world is about to end. Some of you Saints fans are so toxic.
Saints literally did what my favorite team (Steelers) did, neglect to address replacing their future HOF quarterback. Green Bay did it the right way. Saints, Steelers, Falcons are putting band-aids on their QB situations.
@@dre3425 Carr is not a band aid. He is a proven franchise QB with the most game winning drives and best record in OT among active QB’s. Saints are in a lot better position than the Steelers right now.
Lifelong Saints fan, but the Groundhog Day every year of trying to find extra cap space is getting old, not to mention trading future picks. I know Loomis is good at finding that cap space, but he’s cleaning up his own mess. I still can’t believe we’re paying Carr like an elite QB.
"This roster is aging, they don't have a lot of draft capital, they're already not winning in a bad division and they haven't been to the playoffs in over three years .. This IS one of the worst situations in all of football, I hope you're enjoyed this" wow lol .... I think by keeping Dennis Allen, the Saints are digging themselves in deeper and deeper .. He wasn't a great DC with the Broncos, wasn't a very good HC with The Raiders and has provided no identity for the Saints .... Stats about finishing in the Top 10 in O and D look nice on paper, but when you have a schedule like they did, the stats will reflect that .... Canning Allen and hiring Mike Vrabel would have set this franchise on the right track
Saints just need to face facts and blow it up. Yeah their division is winnable but they’re still not going to anywhere beyond one playoff win and they’d be lucky to even get that. Dennis Allen is a mediocre coach at best, they’re the oldest team in football, they don’t have a true qb, Michael Thomas has been living his life off of one or two great seasons and hasn’t done shit since, the list goes on. This shit isn’t going to get results. It’s not like Atlanta where they have talent but didn’t have a qb or a coach to bring it together. What DO they have outside of a good defense and Chris Olave? I’m not a fan but watching teams wallow in purgatory like this is just painful to watch and New Orleans deserves better.
How Many Games Will the Saints Win In 2024? 🤔
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This guy always gives "credit where credit is due." He can trash a team's overall prospects but still reports on what they have done well. This is a lot more even-handed that what you get from other people who analyze the game.
Except his favorite team a lot of the time😅😂 except that mainly comes from him wanting to be as unbiased and straight up as possible, so it’s not really a negative thing at all
@@mrtheminecraftminer1 He must have a different "favorite team" every other day, then, because this is the type of analysis he gives to every team. Just give him the credit he deserves.
@@Unknown17 I literally did give him the credit he deserves, read the comment again; he and I are both Vikings fans, it’s just a joke, chill 🤣
@@Unknown17 “that comes from wanting to be as unbiased and straight up as possible” I didn’t think I also needed to get down on my knees for him🤣 I said enough to know pretty easily it was in no way a rude or negative comment
I appreciate this more than you know. Thank you
As a lifelong saints fan this is painful but facts. There’s nothing to be excited about these next few years. All great teams fall apart at some point, but the slow death of the Brees-era roster is much more painful than if they just ripped the band-aid off and had young exciting players.
Is MT one of them “painful” losses? He was a cancer that needed to go and they were better off last year after he got hurt.
The Saints have a good mixture of old and young players. Davis is still playing at a high level. Cam fell off some because of injuries last year. Matthieu is at the last stage of his career but he is valuable as a leader (unlike MT) and he was instrumental in convincing Chase Young in coming to the Saints.
And Kubiak will revitalize the offense even more and is so excited to have a proven franchise QB with great arm talent in Carr to throw to those young receivers.
@@pbm8264 We lost MT 3 years ago.
Until we get younger at GM, HC and QB we are accomplishing nothing, sad to say.
@@geoffhoutman1557 Carr is a tremendous competitor and has at least 8 more years with the Saints so you might as well stop with the ridiculous groupthink and just accept it.
@@pbm8264 8? Lol, actual LOL.
Seriously, just follow D'Wreck to his next team already and don't make a mess on your way out. thank you.
@@geoffhoutman1557 Carr just turned 33 March 28. Get to know your QB. In 8 years he will be 41. If Carr wants to he can still be playing into his 40’s.
Another interesting Carr fact is this. They say a good QB is supposed to elevate his team. This is true, but he can only take his team so far. For instance, the most number of games that any team has won with a defense that gave up at least 30 points a game was 5. Carr won 8 games with the Raiders in 2020. That year the Raiders defense was historically bad. They gave up 30+ points a game average and had less sacks and turnovers than the 82 Lions.
This just in. Football is a team sport. The best 3 pure passers back in my day were Marino, Moon and Fouts. Between the 3 of them they have no SB victories. If all it took was a great QB to win it all, Marino would have at least 10 SB’s.
And Saints fans ought to know this. Y’all think Brees walked on water and he only has one. In fact the Peyton/Brees golden era that y’all look back with such nostalgia that you think they did nothing wrong and judge DA off of it when he has a 9-8 season - that Payton/ Brees era had 3 straight 7-9 seasons, another 7-9 and a 8-8 season.
The Saints are a great example of what continuing to kick the can down the road will eventually lead to. They should have blown the roster up and reset the franchise when Brees retired. Instead theyve been tryinf to keep the corpse alive and have been spinning in circles ever since.
Saints are always in a difficult situation lol
They just keep delaying the inevitable for some reason, they just need to do what the Cardinals did and just blow it all up, admit defeat for a season, maybe two at this point because of how deep a hole they are in cap and picks wise
@@Kyle-bi7dffacts bro they keep trying to reload their roster just to be mid and 7-9 just rebuild go very bad for a season or two trade your veterans get a lot of draft picks and go forward from there
That is why they are called the Aints.
as a saints fan i can confirm this, ever since brees retired & sean payton left it’s been an absolute shit show
@@Kyle-bi7df Bad management. Simple as that. Should be heading into year 3 of full rebuild by now, haven't even started it yet, crippled for 2+ years to come with bad contracts. As a fan I hate Monkey Lupus.
I truly think Dennis Allen is the biggest issue for this team. He just has yet to show he is a good coach
Him and Micky both are!!!
Cam Jordan is in the end of his career, that what's really bad
Kamara has 7 seasons under his belt, that's also scary for a RB.
Another great leader - Demario Davis - is 35 yrs old!!
Team for sure needs 2 great drafts in a row to be a contender, at least to replace some of those pieces that will be gone one way or the other
Usually running backs that aren't known for their speed but everything else lasts a while, I think a good example is Marshawn Lynch
@@justsoup847 Darren Sproles had a lot of seasons, but his level declined
They haven't had a great draft since 2017
Its going to take a hell of a lot more than two drafts to fix the Saints. Front office, coaching staff, QB, on and on. No chance.
Do you know what they had last year? A probowl plAyer at every position to teach the young players.
To be honest Sean Payton kind of left this team in a huge mess. Wouldn't be shocked if he does the same to the Broncos.
They traded Sean Payton to the broncos lol. He didn’t leave yall, yall traded him
@@codyb1909 we had to trade him. he literally sat himself out of the HC position until he got traded. to sum that up HE LEFT.
Facts!
Another loser!
@@codyb1909tell me you don’t follow football without telling me. Sean retired with no plan to come back the Saints had control of his contract so thankfully got trades
Guys, he isnt saying the Saints are bad. He is saying they have choices to make due to having a couple weaknesses. Relax 😂
Ray Charles can see that they are bad. Not the worst. But still bad
Our projected win total O/U is at 7.5 bro, Vegas expects us to be bad😂. Considering our line opened at 9.5 last year, this is concerning. The team has a lot of question marks.
The saints are bad they’re going to be mid at best if anything
@@themattcepeda7233at the end of the day the team is trying to win a Super Bowl right? The way this team is constructed right now they not beating the Cowboys(they play next year) eagles, 49ers, lions, etc. let alone making the SB they not beating KC Bills Ravens etc stuck in limbo
@@GTBreezy Mickey Loomis has been kicking this can for years on end now. We were better off never signing Carr and just drafting/developing a rookie talent and gearing up to be great in future seasons.
You dropped this vid on Derek Carr’s birthday too. Damn
Lol that was unintentional (unless you think I’m that smart to plan it out like that 🤪)
No, but I caught the small little joke at about 8 minutes in. Well done, sir. Well done.
"We want 4 years of that" Bro that was Gold! 💯 😆😆😆👍🏼👍🏼
Excellent video, and that’s coming from a Saints fan. A lot of extra points on not mentioning the salary cap which is WAY too easy and yet complicated “Go to”. Also, loved the joke at 8 minutes in whether is was referring to Derek Carr’s birthday or uhhh something else. 10/10.
If anyone gets upset at him not mentioning the Salary cap, every general NFL fan knows about the Saints Salary cap. More importantly, Saints fans also know that it’s real but a Khai Harley in the front office softens (but not completely negate) the yearly salary cap issues.
Thank you!
As a Saints fan I agree with pretty much everything. I do think bringing in Klint Kubiak as OC will add a lot of juice to the offense, but we have to address the OL and we may have to draft 2 players if RR can't play. I wanted us to be able to make a luxury pick like Bowers or Brian Thomas if they fell to 14, but that's sadly no longer an option even if it does happen.
What's crazy is our OL finished top 3 in sacks allowed but still graded out very badly. They got better during the last stretch of the season but were still atrocious early on.
I really hope Penning can figure it out and at least become a starter. I'm not ready for that Eagles trade to be an even bigger disaster. He has to work.
Always an automatic like from me! Love the videos bro
Thank you so much Evan!
As a longtime Saints fan, I have to say, I think the biggest problem is Dennis Allen. He is a good DC but a terrible HC, and he really dug his own grave when he apologized to the Falcons and threw his players under the bus for that final touchdown. For the players, that has to be the most demoralizing thing and would just make you hate the coach. Derek Carr is obviously capable of being a good (maybe not great) QB and can throw some crazy deep passes. Just look at his time with the Raiders. If he can get back to that form and we fire DA, we'll be OK. Let's get rid of Loomis while we're at it. Anyone who uses first round picks on Trevor Penning and Peyton Turner shouldn't be an NFL GM. Plus, I find his total faith in DA disturbing.
Im afraid D'wreck is as much of a problem as Dense and Monkey are.
We gotta buy three bus tickets out of town
we could have tanked last year, and got Jayden Daniels, BUT NOOOOOOOOOOO
Wow great, GREAT video! Fantastic stuff, keep it up! I like when you have conclusions and lots of depth, where as some footbal videos analyze 4 plays from 1 game to make a conclusion about a team/player/offense
Thank you so much!
As a Saints fan, I have to agree with most of this.. The only thing I would push back on is calling Cousins "A much better QB" than Carr.. I think they are bout on the same level..
Another thing that is the fact that we pretty much didn't have an offensive coordinator last year.. Pete Carmichael made a career riding Sean Payton's coattails an it clear as day he has no business calling plays for a NFL team ever again, but I do like his replacement an I'm excited to see what Kubiak can do with this offense..
Not enough is said about how Pete Carmichael stood next to Sean Payton for 15 years and Drew Brees for 20 (since the San Diego era), yet when they were gone he wasn’t able to impart anything on the team. Kubiak may or may not be the solution, but letting Carmichael go released a lot of dead weight in the coaching staff.
NO. Cousins is FAR better than Carr.
@@spaceghost8995 NO.. He ain't..
@@504hotboi5 Not ONE GM would agree with you.
You think they are in a bad situation now you should
Look at their cap situation for next year 💀
they've been in a bad cap situation for as long as i can remember now. im starting to think this cap isn't real.
@@forwardgrappling Derek Carr cap hit over 50 million
The Aints have been in a bad cap situation for like 12 years. Give it a rest already. Cap can always be pushed to future years.
@@Budb1357who cares - gotta get him the fuck outta here… take the hit lol
Salary cap in 2025 is problem too
We were the ONLY team over the 2025 cap, even before we felt with being so far over the 2024 cap.
Dead money gonna choke us.
As a Raider fan we saw Carr throw average of 24ish TDs per year. The Saints need to get the strongest OL to protect Carr. Ever since he broke his back he was never the same after. GL Saints.
his ankle*, but yeah saints were naive to give carr this contract. Carr is good, but elite is not one of them. He needs everything to be good around him to produce well.
And our o line is falling apart, this is not looking good
@@koby1488 That right there is the most casual fan perspective someone can have. Needs everything around him to be good to produce?
So, what about Mahomes? He had Kelce, Hill, and a top 10 OL when he won MVP. Also arguably the brightest offensive mind the NFL has ever seen as OC. This year he didn't have Hill, and his Numbers fell off a cliff. He still won the SB tho, bc KC has an elite defense. Replace that defense with a mediocre one, and KC goes 8-8 based on Mahomes level of play. So does he need everything good around him? How do you know? He's never not had it.
Great QB's are in great situations. All of them. Give any QB a terrible defense, and they won't win. If they have a terrible defense for long enough, they won't be seen as elite. That's exactly what happened to Carr. Through the 9 years he played with the Raiders, he only had one defense finish as a top 20 defense, and it finished exactly 20th. The rest were all worse. Much worse. The saints defenses from '14-'16 weren't as bad as Carrs average defense with Raiders. That's how bad they were. Carr is actually only the 2nd QB in NFL history to win more than 7 games with a defense giving up 30+ PPG. Both teams won 8 games.
Throughout Brady's career, his average defense ranked 7th best. That means I'm any given year, Brady was on a team with a nearly elite defense. THAT'S why he was so successful. BB was great at drafting and coaching defenses. Brady is the luckiest QB alive. Yeah, he was good, but there have been much better QB's who had the opposite luck. Marino was light years better than Brady and didnt win a single SB. Why? The teams around him. That's it. That's why only casual fans make the argument that a QB needs a great situation to be good. All QB's need a great situation to be successful. If it isn't, they aren't very successful, end of story.
That's not true at all. Carr broke his fibula in '16 and then his back in '17. He was at his absolute best in '19 and '20, and was on pace to shatter the NFL passing record by 2k in '22 until losing Gruden and Ruggs inevitably caught up to him.
What we saw in '21 was Carr playing at an elite level, bc he had weapons and had been in the same systems for a few years. That means his ceiling is elite level, it's the team around him that's been holding him back.
That being said, Carr and the saints are about to go on one hell of a 3-5 year run, assuming the can draft well enough to sustain it. You'll see.
@@jessegardner134 Idek why you're arguing with me. I'm a raiders fan and I I've had the pleasure and misfortune to watch carr. Your using other quarterbacks to compare him when all you need to do is watch him. He can't escape pressure that's undeniable, he doesn't extend the play, goes for checkdowns way to much. He limits the offense in a lot of ways. Like I said carr is good, but not great. He will only be as good as the team around him. It's not a casual take to say carr is bad and he needs a good team to be good. He had a good defense this year. I even forgot to mention he doesn't show up in the important games. Last year he was disappointing and he will this year to. I know carr enough for him to prove me right.
We should have kept Dennis Allen at defensive coordinator and hired someone new at head coach after Sean Payton left. Allen is just not head coach material but he was pretty legit as DC.
Saints had arguably the EASIEST schedule in NFL history last year.
CARRBAGE 🗑️ couldn't make the playoffs with a good defense 😂
@@dabking3611 Lousy offensive line and lousy playcalling were bigger factors.
Homie spot on with your micro points !!! As a Saints fan, I really thought DC would be a legit QB signing. I agree on Allen assessment as well 🏈 ✌🏻🫶🏻 🏈
I initially thought the same. What changed was the game where Carr started 1) throwing to where the receivers *_should_* have been & 2) yelling at them about who knows what during the game as Allen looked on. 2, 3 weeks later the offense clicked.
Carr was doing what his teammates like about him, Taking Charge like a QB should. & Allen _watched it play out_ & now Carmichael is gone? _Think_ about it.
This team has needed to restart for years. Payton wasn't afraid to do it. He's doing it now in Denver at a way higher cost than what it would take for the Saints. We never know how much input owners who aren't vocal like Irsay or Jerry Jones have, but it seems obvious to me that the Saints owners are limiting what their coaches can do.
Allen let it play out possibly to show ownership what a dud Carmichael was. If _Allen_ is forced to take on coaches he doesn't like or want, then it's likely Payton's hands were tied when there too. I realize that even at his best & in synch with the offense they're not winning the S-B with Carr, but he may have done something that will help the team, making it clear they are floundering. So clear even the obstinate owners might come to realize it.
Thank you! I Didn’t know you were a Saints fan till now!
@@choosecarefully408 you’re right with this detailed assessment!!!! I love NOLA ⚜️
@@DRFelGood*Am* I? I'm really just guessing. But I'm amazed at how many "fans" of the sport ignore everything but the highlight reels & wins. It's more me trying to figure out what the heck happened but I do like my guess. The Main Reason Josh McD had to get rid of him is that he's a leader & McD's ego can't stand that.
But obviously I can't _know_ what went on on the field.
@@choosecarefully408. You were doing good until you said the Saints were “not winning the SB with Carr.” And why not? Why do people feel they have to qualify their statements about Carr? Is it to appease the haters? Carr is plenty good enough to win a SB. It does take a team to win it, otherwise Miami would have won at least 14 with Marino.
Saints should draft Joe Milton and develop him behind Carr.
WR room is fine, and defense is gonna need young guys.
Fire LOOMIS, DA, and Carr. It’s Time to rebuild and modernize like the rest of the league with Klint.
They always get out of said difficult situation but become inconsistent during the season
Saints shaping up for a good 8-9 record. They need to tank for a Qb
Yea I need 5-12 for this nightmare to end…
Reaching for Payton Turner and Marcus Davenport, missing on Trevor Penning still haunts this franchise
You should have been a fan in the 80's, sigh. I remember rooting for them back when half of the few people watching in the stadium were wearing paper bags over their heads...
In my opinion, if they don't upgrade the offensive line, I don't see much improvement from last year
Not once did you mention we sign klint kubiak as our new OC but I’m concerned for the O-line & D-line
As a Raider fan, I have watched every game Carr played for 9 seasons. He will play lights out in one game then the next look like he is scared. I think the entire team plays off his energy and that includes the defense. I am glad he isn't our problem anymore.
Amen.
I’m glad Tom Benson isn’t here to see his pride and joy being managed like this. Regardless WHO DAT!
I loved the video, and you are 100% accurate with everything you said...
The Saints will go 7 and 9 if they are lucky!!!
As a glass half full guy I continue to say Pete Carmichael was the problem. DA is a problem but not the problem with the offense. That being said, hope I am right. Super Bowl is a reach. Just lose games based on your opponents ability and not your inability to perform.
One thing I’ve started to realize is that in the NFL with the right leadership, a team can bounce back in only a few years. Just have to be smart and have a bit of luck
Thanks for reminding me how much we suck, how awful Mickey Loomis is as an decision maker, and lastly how terrible Dennis Allen is as a HC. 😠
I I think we're reaching for the stars a bit in setting the bar for Saint success as a Super bowl win, they're barely a borderline playoff contender
As a Saints fan I thought this was a very sober and informed breakdown of where this franchise is at right now.
Thank you! Also appreciate your long time support!
As a saints fan, what is this soundtrack? I need it to make theme songs for next season….cuz we ain’t doing much…only Klint Kubiak will have my attention on Sundays and we don’t even know if that will pan out 🤦🏾🤦🏾. Great video tho
Thank you!
@@FootballAnalysis1 no problem big dawg, keep doin your thing. Love the content and grind ✊🏾
Was waiting for this ❤
Mickey Loomis should be on the hot seat
Him and Dennis Allen
The only NFL game I've been to as a fan was the shut out game against Carr when he was with the Raiders. I knew we weren't going anywhere once we signed him 😂
So one bad game determines how good he’s gonna be for a full season is what you’re saying? He was good this year anyway?
As a redskins fan I’d like to wish y’all saints fans luck. I’ve always marveled at Bree’s ability to clap at the goat (Brady). Also I hope they don’t trade taysom hill. Nobody has ever played his position. Utilitarian. Hella impressed.
They really should tear it down and start a rebuild. They have a lot of aging veterans, and they keep pushing money on their cap to the future just to field a very mediocre team the last few years.
Yea u right we should keep our good players instead of wasting
as a saints fan, we shouldve blown it up and started the rebuild after jameis tore his acl. also i hate carr at qb
Amen
For sure but we are stuck with Carr for at least this year now and tbh he did show improvement and real saints fans know that not these fake ass ones ruiz was bad after he got paid, mccoy been our only good o line the entire season with the Ryan injury and penning was ass, virtually had no tackles, no qb is going to perform with no tackles unless it’s mahomes or Brady…new scheme with kubiak hopefully he’s learnt a lot from big shanahan and we can get the best out of Carr and all our weapons with motion etc. I truly believe if we go tackle in the first which we should we will be fine and if kubiak can fix the offense will be set to take the division regardless of what Atlanta or Tampa do we’ve got the best defense in the division and ain’t no one arguing about that except other falcons or Tampa fans we know our d is better, kubiak fix the offense and we set
Kubiak needs to take over and Loomis needs to be ousted. Saints will be fine if that happens.
Kube isn’t coming out of retirement for Derrick Carr
They start winning by firing Dennis allen
I always enjoy videos dumping on the Aints. One thing I don’t think you mentioned regarding their future was the cap situation. They aren’t in cap purgatory, they’re in cap hell. As long as they keep kicking that can down the road, they’ll be mediocre at best.
Our offensive coordinator last year was the janitor for 14 years before they gave him the OC position.
Nah I totally agree with this guy. Tha Saints have a pitch black future right now because they are in the worst possible position. Not good enough to be a contender, but also not bad enough to get a high draft pick.
They finished with the same record as the bucks who beat the eagles and they would of beat the eagles they really need another game changer a superstar
Another team when you look at them, you contemplate their roster and braintrust and you think: nah, ain't happening.
I think we were the best team that didn’t make the playoffs but I still don’t think we were good we just mid our only choice is to draft good even tho we don’t have many picks if not we’re gonna stay a 9-8 team. All we can do is pray as saints fans but ima still support em
Only thing we can say is positive is the defense ever since drew left the offense has been historically bad !!!
The Saints situation is exactly what happens when you kick the can down the road for too long. Terrible coaching and FO decisions, I feel for my bayou brothers as the Texans had that same issue for way too many years under BoB.
Also they’re 76 million dollars over next years cap
Derek Carr and Kirk Cousins are two sides of the same coin. I think it's pretty wild to say one is clearly better than the other
Have you watched them play😂
The Saints are always in cap hell
Been a fan since I was a kid during the Aaron brooks days. This is one of the toughest times being a fan. Nothing going right recently and the future doesn’t look to be changing anytime soon.
the thing is we have a lot of underrated talent. We could 100% win the division considering we by far have the best d in the division. Offensively it just has to be pieced together. We have a new play caller so hopefully that does us some justice. 2 years ago I told people to remember the name, Rashid Shaheed. This year I want you all to remember the name, A.T PERRY. He will be our dark horse at WR
Yeah, this guy has to be a pessimist. Saints pass game was one of the best in the NFL over the last 6 games, and that was with the worst run game in the NFL. Carr proved he could carry the offense if need be, and look awesome doing it (once he got comfortable in the system).
Saints defense is still good too. Not elite, but still top 10. That more than enough to contend if the offense plays well......and seeing that Carr already has timing built with his WR's, it shouldn't be long before the passing game is playing at an elite level again.
This dude is seriously sleeping on Carr. Oh, and that BS that Carr didn't have a lot of suiters is complete hogwash. He had visits with 4 teams before visiting the saints, and 4 more scheduled for after. He met with the Jets, Carolina, Washington (I believe) and Chicago. He also had meetings set up with Seattle and Indy. I might be getting those mixed up, but he had plenty of interest.
They’re weakness is the o-line.
Lack of talent okay pal relax if kubiak is good and Carr shows signs of his 2021 self it’s gonna be fucking crickets
W Video and Keep up the great content
Thank you!
@@FootballAnalysis1 thanks
Derek Carr is my least favorite qb. I think he flat out stinks
He does but like Dak (tho dak is better) the narrative is that it’s not their fault!
Definitely should’ve just rebuilt after Jameis went down an Sean left
Not one mention of the offensive coaching changes. Which is arguably the biggest factor regarding the saints 2024 season
My best prediction going into this last season was that both the Raiders and Saints would end the year with similar records and miss the playoffs. Carr is a perfect fit for the what the Saints were last season. I saw it for 9 years on the Raiders. One game he looks like a top 5 QB. The next, he looks like he doesn't know wtf he's doing
Carr lead the NFL in TD passes over the last 6 games last year, while also throwing the fewest picks. He was playing as well or better than any QB in the NFL over that stretch, despite having the worst run game in the NFL. That means he carried saints offense, and if you watched the games, you know that's true.
Like any QB who switches teams, Carr needed time to adjust to the new system and WR's. Combine that with no run game at all and a terrible OL, and that explains the saints offense over the 1st half of the season. What Carr did in the 2nd half was elite, and he did it against a bunch of really good defenses too.
Don't worry tho, Carr is about to get that respect back that the Raiders took from him with their terrible teams and incompetent coaching.
@@jessegardner134😂 CARRBAGE fanboys are 🤡🤡
Great job
Thank you!
This is the same team that saw Jameis Winston as a legitimate successor to Drew Brees.
Outsiders perspective, New Orleans needs a franchise QB, an elite pass rusher and better pass blocking. That shouldn’t surprise anybody because those three things are what literally every NFL team has on its short list of needs most of the time.
The Saints have a decent roster that totally hinges on the quality of play that they get from their QB. The challenge is that they haven’t finished poorly enough to be in a position to draft a difference maker at QB or edge in the last five years.
We’re grateful for Jalen Carter - Eagles fans
How wasn't Dennis Allen fired is my question
Nothing I despise more in the NFL than a team wasting everybody's time drafting or signing an obviously limited QB
Saints got a solid 7 wins in them, another great video brother
Thank you Alan! Appreciate your support!
I feel like ive seen this exact same video every year since brees retired 😂.
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GOAT
As a Saints fan, you have made some very good points which I agree with I have no faith in coach Allen or Derek Carr. I still bleed black and gold but I want them both gone.
There’s so many delusional fans now I’m telling you right now we’re not gonna be good again until DA gone and maybe even carr
Time to push the reset button.
They got a lemon Carr😂
Klint kubiak. Enough said Carr played behind a awful o line and under Pete who was washed af and barely even robin to Sean’s Batman. DA will be gone if we don’t make the playoffs again and so to mickey. We’ve had our time beating up on teams and the entire division it’s time to give the rest of the league a break!
CARRBAGE IS 🗑️
They couldn’t get one first down against GB with Winston, which allowed GB to come back. All we needed was 1 freaking first down. Horrible coaching
New Orlean Saints will remain in a free fall until we draft an above average Q.B in the first round , and a new coach
Need to get younger at GM for that to happen
Loomis hit the 2016 draft out of the park he’s been resting on that. Be done with Loomis and unfortunately Allen, who I love as a defensive head coach.
per usual when a team is in a situation like this its the big shot callers... so Dennis and Mickey
Lol they have no direction at all. Trading for Carr made no sense
ngl as a saints fan i think next season will be dennis allens last as HC and the saints will draft their new franchise qb in 2025. This draft feels important for the saints because they need to get new players to put around the next qb and to replace the ageing vets.
I'm a Saint's fan and they should have easily won 11 games in 2023. That was about as easy of a schedule you can get in the NFL. In 2023, the NFC south was a battle for least trash team.
Crazy that 2023 1 turned into Jalen Carter
We just gotta win man
Falcons fan here. I hope they kick the can forever. Guaranteed bad for the next 3 years because they refuse to blow it up.
You weren't talking about the Giants so I enjoyed.
All facts. Minus no mention of Carl granderson and some of our younger core, nothing is wrong here.
Drew Drees years were amazing, now we struggle
Oh yea. Those 4 7-9 seasons and one 8-8 season was amazing under Payton and Brees.
DA goes from 7-10 to 9-8 and the world is about to end. Some of you Saints fans are so toxic.
Saints literally did what my favorite team (Steelers) did, neglect to address replacing their future HOF quarterback. Green Bay did it the right way. Saints, Steelers, Falcons are putting band-aids on their QB situations.
@@dre3425 Carr is not a band aid. He is a proven franchise QB with the most game winning drives and best record in OT among active QB’s. Saints are in a lot better position than the Steelers right now.
Lifelong Saints fan, but the Groundhog Day every year of trying to find extra cap space is getting old, not to mention trading future picks. I know Loomis is good at finding that cap space, but he’s cleaning up his own mess. I still can’t believe we’re paying Carr like an elite QB.
Carr is not getting elite QB pay, top 10, he is paid top 13 or 14 depending on how your look at his total pay.
"This roster is aging, they don't have a lot of draft capital, they're already not winning in a bad division and they haven't been to the playoffs in over three years .. This IS one of the worst situations in all of football, I hope you're enjoyed this" wow lol .... I think by keeping Dennis Allen, the Saints are digging themselves in deeper and deeper .. He wasn't a great DC with the Broncos, wasn't a very good HC with The Raiders and has provided no identity for the Saints .... Stats about finishing in the Top 10 in O and D look nice on paper, but when you have a schedule like they did, the stats will reflect that .... Canning Allen and hiring Mike Vrabel would have set this franchise on the right track
Holy shit he went in on the Saints in the last 30 seconds of the video😂😂 it’s brutal, but all facts tho
Where are all the Saints picks going?
3 of the last 5 firsts have been busts
Busts at DE and LT (Trevor Penning)
Toilet
Saints just need to face facts and blow it up. Yeah their division is winnable but they’re still not going to anywhere beyond one playoff win and they’d be lucky to even get that. Dennis Allen is a mediocre coach at best, they’re the oldest team in football, they don’t have a true qb, Michael Thomas has been living his life off of one or two great seasons and hasn’t done shit since, the list goes on. This shit isn’t going to get results. It’s not like Atlanta where they have talent but didn’t have a qb or a coach to bring it together. What DO they have outside of a good defense and Chris Olave? I’m not a fan but watching teams wallow in purgatory like this is just painful to watch and New Orleans deserves better.