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The Truth About Mountain Top Roll Cover for Ford Ranger
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- Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2019
- 🛻🛻A review and Maintenance Overview of the Mountain Top Roll Cover. When I started this video, it was to slate this Mountain Top Roll Top on my Ford Ranger Wildtrak. I then looked into what I could do to stop it filling with water and creating a tsunami wave every time I rolled back the top after it had rained. It's a long video but use it to skip through for what you need. It shows the pitfalls of owning this top and also what you need to do to keep on top of it. Personally, I think if you have to do this much maintenance then the design is wrong but hey, it looks good....
And to top it off, two of the screws have come loose and gone missing, but easy enough to order online as a pack of 6 washers, covers and screws...
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A great video thanks. I have the exact same issues. Who thought at Ford that this was a good idea. And yes its not waterprof. I will persevere just like you and hopefully I can get it water tight also. Thanks again.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Very helpful
This is a video on the importance of servicing. You did a great job servicing the rolltop in the end. I will buy one after watching your video. Thanks.
To be fair to you. If there was shavings in your drain tubes, from the install from Ford. That's pretty bad on their part. How you're parking your Ranger is also playing a big part in the issues you're having. If you reversed into that parking space. All water would drain away from the canister, not into it. Better yet. If you organised your garage and made space for the Ranger. You would have to service it way less also. As most leaves and debris would be avoided.
@@Karlos305 good comment 👍🏻
Very good review, it kills the idea to get one on mine, thx for the good demonstration, thumb up.
I've just cleaned out my drain pipes from my MTR canister. These drains are a redesign by my local Mazda dealer about 3 years ago but still block up. I have pushed a 1.6mm trimmer line into the tube and they now drain, when I fill the canister with water. The 1.6mm lines should vibrate as I drive and keep the drains clear. Additionally they act as 'wicks' to assist drainage when the water level is low.
Thanks for the review. I was just about to purchase one. Have now changed my mind. Will look at the EGR rolltrac one.
Have a look at the drains on the newer mountain tops, they may have improved them. However, you really need to keep up maintenance on the roll track as well. Not good all round I suppose unfortunately. Thanks for the message anyway 👍🏻😁
Thanks for the insight mate, good video, very helpful !!
Thanks for the video! I mean, I've been asking for roller shutter's info from many accessories shops and no one ever explained these to me.
Mine freezes in the winter and it can not be opened till It thaws
Thanks for this review. Like you, I had assumed the design of these would be able to keep bed contents dry. I'm thinking of getting a Ranger instead of a car so this has highlighted vital information which I will need to follow up on. Thanks.
I do like the Ranger, good to drive and practical. The roll cover was certainly a disappointment though 👍
I personally think the roll top was NOT installed properly or this particular unit is faulty. Mine seals properly with no drop going through. The HUGE amount of water going through in this video is very telling as well. I'm of the opinion it was not properly fitted
Mine leaks , there awful
@@xolanimtimkulu4309 I'm of the opinion he's parked it under a tree or somewhere where a large volume of plant material has fallen into the tracks, Become rotten and blocked the drains.
Look on the black drain hoses as mine was going up hill so I drilled lower holes in the tub liner and pushed the pipes back in ,also make sure your running tracks are spaced right as this jams the roller and the rubber seals will be loose ,I had to adjust mine and the gave them a spray with silicone spray ,I get about a cup of water in now ,its 90% better
Good review, wish i had seen this earlier. Will be getting mine in a week or two
Keep the two rubber tubes attached to the roller box clear, shouldn't need to but bad design. Keep the tracks lubricated as well. Other than the water issues though, it easy to use and does the Job👍
Thx, what do you think about this instead of carpet ? not meant to be advertising, just dont know what its called in English, as i am from Germany ..... ruclips.net/video/2N6ae3wRSwk/видео.html . they have them at Skiresorts aswell
Funny that, I've been using something very similar on the muddy ground outside the house while I've been landscaping, really good
Also B&Q sell big black plastic boxes with lids ,i keep my stuff in them but make sure you get the right hight ones that fit under the roller ,dont forget its a pickup lol
Great work Mountain top 👏🏻 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Love your review and what a beautiful street and stone structures- I have the same top without the Spring loaded return and it is a mess- I agree paid the price for it of my 1st used car and it leaks like a sieve!
Thanks for that Jon 😁👍🏻
@@CloughReviews cheers mate
One word ...Truckman👍
I have a Ranger Raptor with the mountain top shutter, it’s 100% waterproof, I guess I’m lucky as it was fitted correctly.
The problem is with the drains in the shutter tank, they block easily then it overflows into the bed. Not sure what your drain tubes are like but mine are less than a centimetre across and stuff blocks them so easily unfortunately
I’ve got the raptor mountain top it’s never leaked either something is wrong with this top
I have been battling with mine for 8 years and confirm that they leak like a sieve no matter how much you try to stop it. What is worse is that they are completely insecure - a Stanley knife between the slats and it opens up while still locked - completely useless!!! DO NOT LEAVE ANYTHING VALUABLE IN THERE!!!!
Yep, saw a video on the security bit. Can't believe how leaky they are though
Thank you for advise! Love the truck. Why don’t Ford sort this out!
People pay good money for these trucks and I don’t understand how something so simple couldn’t be made or available!
Just purchased a 2008 Wikdtrack and Mine is leaking like a sieve through the slats...cleaned out the drain holes and lubricated the runners ascit was clear nothing had ever been done to it....but still leaking bad...my Mitzy L200 had a rollnlock shutter which is far better than the armadillo...it has a vynal cover over the slats preventing water coming through them...one of the forums says there should be tape underneath at the slat joints but these fall off after a while...
It's not good Richard
The UK is one of the few countries where Ford doesn't fit the roller shutter as standard straight out of the factory. I believe that this is to do with the UKs BIK commercial vehicle tax concessions not being met if the roller is fitted as standard as this pulls the payload under the magic 1000kg threshold. As such, Ford deliberately don't fit the rear tailgate seals in order to allow any water in the rear tub to drain out much easier. However, once a roller shutter is then fitted as an accessory at a later date or even at the dealership from new, they have to also fit the rear tailgate seal which attaches to an original Ford load liner. Unfortunately, very few UK Wildtraks have the rubber tailgate seals fitted which therefore allows water to enter the rear tub around the tailgate, certainly if parked on a downward incline. As can be seen in the video, this one certainly doesn't have the tailgate seals fitted which is also shown by how much water flows back out from around the tailgate. I would be taking it back to the Ford dealership and asking why the rubber tailgate seals weren't fitted when the roller was fitted as an accessory which is contrary to those Wildtraks which leave the factory with a Roller shutter fitted as standard. Check out this ford video showing the tailgate seal. ruclips.net/video/t_5UiYGvbmQ/видео.html
That's a fantastic write up, just seen it 👍🏻
Also part 2 lol ,I shut my self in the tub and I could see daylight buy the roller box each side so I filled them with silicone ,might strip the whole thing off in summer and seal it properly as i was told ford dont do a good job
Yep, I took it back to ford when I realised it was becoming a lake in the back, they were neither use nor ornament. The guy I was speaking to said they could take it off and put it back on again under warranty, but it probably wouldn't do anything
Glad its not only me. I have an Armadillo rolltop on a Ranger and it too is bloody useless! Tried everything to seal it and nothing works.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Best regards from Argentina.
Thank you 👍
Watched to the end, and it seems that regular maintenance is the key, and what Mountain Top recommend to keep it running smoothly...thanks
If you can do anything to increase the bore of the rubber drain tubes at the back of the box, it will help you immensely.
I had not seen this top, if I saw the top I would have believed it to be weather proof.......but since I saw 5 minutes of this video
you can slice the connecting rubber using cutter ..not secured
We have had our Ranger for 3 years now and it is 6 years old in total. Mountain Top has always leaked a bit but keep the drains clear and it in not too bad. Plastic boxes are great and park on a slope to keep the boot draining. BUT BUT BUT wait until the silly thin NON stainless steel cables that activate the locking mechanism in the rear beam fail. THERE APPEARS TO BE NO WAY TO REPLACE THE CABLES WITHOUT REMOVING THE ENTIRE MOUNTAIN TOP ROLLER SHUTTER FROM THE VEHICLE. This really is a game changer. If anyone does know a short cut please enlighten me! Cheers And Merry Xmas.
The Ford OEM equivalent roller doesn't flood anywhere near this. Wow. Thanks for the review though.
You are a fucking legend. I've been having problems with the damn thing not locking and didn't realise that you pulled on the strap. Fuck me!
Haha 👍, it works the other way as well, pull the strap to the right and it unlocks it. Yours may have been stuck like that and pulling on the strap reset it. Glad to be of help though 😁😁😁
Our roller is being swapped for a Truckman hardtop tomorrow at Truckman. Having everything in plastic boxes to keep it dry is a pain.
How much was the hard top please
@@daddonimrod7846 Truckman canopies start at £1,700. We chose the Max Hardtop with gull-wing side windows for £2,300 plus £140 fitting which included removing the old roller cover.
Sorry you had to go through that mate.
Yes you should clean your car more often than every six months. Basic maintenance issues you pointed out.
Did you not see the diameter of the drain pipes?
Any update on how the roller top is going? Just got myself a ranger :)
The Ranger is great but not so much the top when it's raining still unfortunately. They may have upgraded the drains from the roller top tank for you though. The runner drain tubes are just so small they get blocked all the time. I did remove the rubber grommets that the tubes push through though recently, as these were just constricting the tubes even more. Such a shame as it is a great bit of kit otherwise
Mine slows water in and now we’re in the winter it freezes and I have to wait till
It warms up before the shutter will open. Also lock on back starting to get hard to get key in. I’ve had mine from new for 10 months now. I think they are very poor
Honestly I think someone from Ford/Mountain Top incorrectly fitted it. I’ve had mine through heavy rain, floods, high pressure washes and guaranty not more than a shot glass of water seeps in. Due dry lube not grease as it’ll increase buildup of gunk. I haven’t need any maintenance for the past 3yrs, only dry lubed it once recently. Runs like butter. I think Ford/ Mountain Top should be responsible. We in Australia have these type of trucks with Mountain Top roller covers everywhere. Unlucky.
Here in the United States mine leaks like a sieve
I’ve had my Wildtrak factory fitted with the mountain top for 5 years in Australia, never had a water problem.
Hi thanks for posting the video it was very helpfull.
One thing tho , i have the 2 drainage tubes near the tailgate , but i dont seem to have any at the other end...
I looked under there and got my torch out and felt around ....but no drain tubes....
Did mountain top fit 4 drain tubes on all models..
Mine is also a 66 ranger which i bought a few weeks ago...( mountain top already fitted )
Do you mean the two drains that are in the box that holds the top when it's rolled back?
Yes....those that you blew the debris out of....
They are definatley not there
Strange, there must be something or it will just fill. They were har to see and get to on mine, everything had to be done blind
Update.....
I got some drainage tubes for the roller shutter housing in the post today...
Will put them on at the weekend as i have to drill 2 holes in the back of the truck bed ,and feed them through .
@@stephendonlon3199 remember not to drill to far, you only want to get through the plastic bed 👍
Can you tell me the brand of the carpet you bought for the bed for your truck
Just something cheap off Amazon, I think it was about £29
@@CloughReviews if you have a link would be greatly appreciated
@@archanmaraj4780 Ebay www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Ranger-Mk3-2012-Now-With-Liner-Fully-Tailored-Black-Car-Carpet-Boot-Mat/333242969516?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
Mountain top manual calls for the drains to be cleaned/checked every 4 months and the canister to be cleaned out yearly.
Looks like you don’t have any drain holes in your bed liner as well any water is only going to pool in that case
I get that maintenance is needed, that's basically what I'm doing in the video. However, the drain tubes from the canister are so narrow that they get blocked too easily, design fault. Not sure about the bed liner, I haven't looked, Ford original part though.
@@CloughReviews I think someone did you a disservice, there will always be small leaks but if the water gets in it needs to get out. I’ve made it a habit to always put drain holes in bed liners, 1/2” or so in each corner has always seen me right
The problem I have with mine is that I can only open and close the shutter using the pull cord. It’s like the handle is just a dummy handle.. I thought it was till I saw other people using theirs 🤷♂️
You need to pull it towards you and press the button
I can honestly say I’ve had no water come in mine.. I’m guessing it’s not fitted correctly or something 🤷♂️ mines a 68 model and had no wet as yet, maybe I just got lucky!
I think it is more to do with the fitting of the drain pipes. I've just take out the rubber grommets to increase the hole size
Just got rid of mine for the same reason. Too much water comes in. Dust in the drum roller blocks the drains so it fills up and overflows. Might work in Denmark where there’s no dust…..not Australia.
The drains are unbelievably narrow, huge design fault 👍🏻
Wow, thought mine was bad, yours comes with a hot tub!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@CloughReviews One thing you mentioned is that it jams when going back, that may be something that it is designed to do, i have one similar, and you can open it in 3 sections.
@@MrOzzy281 yep, mines the same (coming forward). If I mention jamming, I probably mean it's stiff to pull and push after a while. I have to spray silicone spray onto the tracks and it cures it then. 👍🏻😁
@@CloughReviews yes, I have cleaned the hoses out of mine which were jammed so we will see how it goes. Would be nice not to need to buy a canopy as I don't like the look for it with them and scared to damage it taking it of frequently, if I get one might go for a farmer style one
They are never fitted correctly from
The start. I have taken off over 150x of them now and sealed them up to make them never leak again. I can do this job in 1hr easy work too.
Joel Stirling after he showed us all the amount of rubbish that he removed from the overflow tubes it is obvious that he did not do enough maintenance on this unit!
Do you need to do maintenance on your sunroof drain pipe. Thought not. They must be well designed. 🤣
Robert Butler after 2016 they did redesign the main unit drain tubes. The new tubes are larger and collect the dirt in the ribs but allows the water to still drain. But still clean them every season.
Clough Reviews they are an ok design. They get better after 2017 with all the parts replaces with plastic and a lot lighter with less parts that can rust. They just need to be cleaned every season. Only a 10min job max.
Hi. What sort of work does that involve please?
Are they universal for all pick ups?
No, I think they are bespoke to different models
I have the same roller top but different brand on my Ranger Wildtrak in S.E Asia, we have torrential rain on most days and never had problems with water collecting in the load bay nor problem sliding the top, maybe your roller top was badly installed.
Maybe, lots of other have an issue as well with this brand unfortunately 😭😭
what brand did u install?
First off these trucks are lifted higher in rear than front,water will accumulate in the front of the bed,putting drain holes might help but then you need in front and back also draining to the bed will lead to rusting of bed so you would have to drill holed through the metal bed so water drains to ground not into the bed,no need to rust out the bed,lol. Best not to buy this roll up units, netter to get a good sealing TOPUP UNIT,LOL,SAVE A LOT OF HEART ACHE AND WASTE OF MONEY LATER,LOL
WELL JUST WATCHING HIM PULL ON IT MADE ME DECIDE I DONT WANT ONE,LOL
Why did you not clean up the big mess in the back of the truck before you made this review ?
More fun that way.....
@@CloughReviews that's what he's focused on 😂😂😂
We have several rangers used for work, The best thing to do is take off and fit tiger seal all around the top. We have been there many times and the key thing to remember ford employees are fitters not mechanics or problem solvers. The mountain tops are good when fitted correctly. I would put more money on incompetent people initially than a poor quality mountain top. there should be drains fitted to the back of the unit.
Also I notice your trucks fairly green . Might be to do with where you leave it or how often you clean it . I personally do not maintain mine and have used them for 8-9 years with no issues apart from poor fitting when new .
I think the problem is more with the drains that come as standard for the roller shutter tank. The tank gets full of water and that then sloshes into the truck bed. When I've taken off the rubber drain pipes from the tank, one end is so thin that any debris that gets into the tank when the shutter goes back into it, just block the tubes straight away. Somebody was saying that they have made these bigger now but I don't know. I have to clean them out regularly but they are so difficult to get to and remove each time unfortunately..... Thanks for the feedback though 👍
Did u know u can cut that top with a craft knife and slide it open
Yep, saw it on a RUclips video, Scary
Makes no sense to say it’s a poor cover system when you did the first maintenance on the roll top and never did it before. It’s like saying the engine is crap when doing the first oil change in 150k miles. Online you can get the maintenance steps for it in the first place. You also have to grease on specific points in regular bases like you have to clean the roll box and free up the drains(also the drain in the back)
No, not at all. The main complaint on the video is the utterly ridiculous size of the container drainage tubes. They are so narrow, that there is no way they are not going to get blocked. I'm not talking leaves and twigs, but the smallest of debris blocks them completely unfit for purpose. It is a basic design fault, nothing to do with maintenance. I get that you have to grease tracks and clean everything, but to have to remove the drain tubes, clean and replace then on a continual basis because they are far too narrow is ridiculous.
Mine dont leak like that
You're lucky 😁👍
You must have bought the friday afternoon one
@@awoody080464 🤣🤣🤣
Mountain top roll top isn’t waterproof and doesn’t claim to be. It’s for security.
Just a couple of points:
Have a look around for videos that show just how secure it is....
This isn't about it not being waterproof, it's about a ridiculous design of the size (and tapering) of the rubber drain tubes on this model to allow the emptying of the roll top box
This is a design flaw (I believe it may have been changed on newer models, which proves a point) and no matter how much you may like it or the company, it's a pretty bad design.......
I thought its waterproof . Thanks otherwise I will fix this
I found this out the hard way fitted not properly by stupid idiots at Daventry called tops for trucks ..they rip off customers and mis sold this product to me
Its not meant to be waterproof - so why are you shocked its not?? Sounds like you're expecting the product to do something its not designed to...Do you expect your Ranger to fly?
Hmmmm, it is however designed to be weather proof. Which means the back of it not flooding and water not seeping in through the top. Not sure why you feel the need to defend poor engineering (not just talking about the drains) but crack if it means that much......
@@CloughReviews I feel the need to defend it as much as you feel the need to make a video that attacks it - despite it not being marketed to do what you purport it should do...weatherproof does not mean waterproof - weatherproof literally means to withstand weather without damage or loss of function - its only function is to be a roll cover - which seemingly it does very well for you...what you just described as weather proof meaning is completely wrong...you just explained water proof...if you purchased the product thinking it would keep water out of your tub then more fool you...educate yourself before you attempt to educate others...
@@asherhudson439 I'm sure we can agree to differ on this 😁. However, if I can show people how to remove and clean the drains then I'm doing a service. If people se this and understand that it is not waterproof then that's good to, helps make informed decisions. 👍😁
I do struggle to say anything in it's defence though, It isn't secure (see the other RUclips vids), water actually drips onto everything not just overflows from the recoil tray, and to to it off, it really doesn't take long for the tracks to make it grind to a halt and need relubing. .....
@@asherhudson439 well if ford was to fit it right it would not leak as much ,I've stopped 90% of water getting in, I only get a bit in ether side of the roller shutter lock end
1,fit tailgate seals
2,where the sports bar inner fixing plate meets the rubber seal for the roll top rails needs a bit of black silicone
3,silicone the ends of the rail by back window,
4,take off top plate and seal it properly where the box touches the back of the tub ,
All down to how it's fitted ,I took mine out and cleaned it and sealed it right ,helps as I used to fit double glazing lol ,get inside and get someone to shut you inside and stick your head under the box and see all the daylight that comes in
@@CloughReviews the points you all seem to be missing.......weatherproof does not mean water proof. It runs through aluminium channel that is a clearance fit (otherwise it wouldn't slide ) so ofcoarse it will leak water. And the main thing that nobody else seemed to notice is that you are parking facing down hill and on a sideways slope, so its to be expected that the water wont run off evenly and will cause the puddles you showed. This is so painfully obvious to me. I think you are expecting too much from this roller lid. A hard cover with a rubber seal is the only method to making it waterproof. No roller lid is going to stop water as they all need clearance in the track to be able to operate. No offense meant here, just pointing out the obvious that everyone else seemed to overlook.
My advice would be is to take it to Mountain Top Cover approved installer and have them check it out it is not meant to be that bad!! It could well be a lack of maintenance on your part!! If you are parking this vehicle close to or under a tree then blame yourself it is more your lack of maintenance!!
You are meant to clean it regularly, yourself not the guy at the car wash! And use silicone and not WD 40, definitely parking outside will be an issue. I would recommend a rubber mat rather than carpet too. They sell endoscope cameras that plug tonyour phone for under £10 so you could in theory inspect areas outside your reach with that, comes with leds lights too. Good that you made a video about it. But I would rather become more used to cleaning it before showing a tutorial... In fact there's an official Ford video on the Wildtrak roller shutter's owner maintenance from Ford in NZ, check it out on RUclips.
Actually the video is from Ford in Australia:
ruclips.net/video/7Sk0CfnAIa0/видео.html
Not disagreeing with you, and it WD Silicone spray, no WD40. However, have you seen the size of the drain tube in the roller bay, saying its the owners responsibility to maintain it is not an excuse for a really badly designed system. I have been told the tube have been made bigger, but it should have been right before it went to market.
Perfect 👌
That’s terrible that though, someone seriously wrong there
Swimming pool for the kiddies
🤣🤣🤣
I have a triton with a roll top cover, also came with the car, but mine has yet to leak in the rain, I don’t know why yours is so poor, I suppose the installer may have made a mistake, not sure.
Same manufacturer too.
Its the two drain tubes at the back, very narrow and clog easily so the tank that holds the roller top when retracted just fills with water until it leaks into the back. No leaking from the roll top itself when in place
10:39 So filings from when it was originally fitted? So in other words you've never ever cleaned it ya lazy buggar.... the solution is more drainage..
Ha, from when it was fitted just over a year ago..... Nothing comes with this thing saying you need to carry out maintenance on it every six months, I had to do a bit of investigation to find that out and to find out what to do. That's even after taking it back to Ford a few months after I got it to explain it was leaking, 'yeah, they all to that, it's only weather proof not water proof'. Anyway, buyer beware I suppose. 👍😁
@@CloughReviews Do you ever clean your guttering out, on your roof? get a clue my friend
@@stoppernz229 No, I put that Gauze stuff over the guttering when I built the house (so I wouldn't have to keep cleaning it.....) And if I did clean it, I wouldn't expect to take it of the wall to do it. Stop making excuses for a piss poor design. The very most you should have to do with this is lubricate it, definitely not take it to pieces and have to twist your wrists around the back of it to disconnect and reconnect drains that are way too small. Get a clue my friend.
Anyway, we should both be on the same side to get things working better, not telling each other that they are idiots....
@@CloughReviews So you did take steps to keep your gutters clean, just as I suspected...and that gauze that you put over isn't a perfect solution either ya fool, I know I've used it.
@@stoppernz229 You didn't use it properly, 20 years of not cleaning gutters...😁👍 Shame the manufacturers of this system didn't have the wit to make the drains bigger 🤣🤣🤣