@@stevedavies8703 Well the Spanish Inquisition was a dominant force for more than 200 years, resulting in some 32,000 executions. Henry the VIII caught 70,000+ before he passed. The Taliban, as of September 2021, more than 70,000 Afghan and Pakistani civilians are estimated to have died as a direct result of the war. Arguably these 70K are run of a much larger world population though.
@@duncanbryson1167 - Not necessarily as the pressure caused by the rope as it contracted around the neck would often paralyse the heart due to over-stimulation of the vagus nerve, thereby causing a relatively quick and painless death.
@@duncanbryson1167 Most hangings in the British isles prior to the late 19th century were done without consideration of the victims height and weight. That's the key element in whether or not it's a slow death by strangulation or a quick break of the neck. Height and weight determine the length of the "drop" in the rope needed to accomplish a "clean" execution. For further details see "Lord High Executioner" by Howard Engel. It's a fascinating read.
@@KempSimon Correct you are sir. Unconsciousness sets in long before death by strangulation. Approximately 15-30 seconds. The body's jerky responses after that are purely motor neurons firing until death ceases all.
THANK YOU for using the correct term of annulment instead of ‘divorce’! It’s one of my biggest Tudor-related pet peeves lol. Subscribed just for that- made my day! 😂
I have to say this was incredibly researched, well assembled, edited and presented. Overall a good history lesson, well done. Cramner had his choices and his chances, he denied all of them.
I love your story called documentation of some truly astonishing historical narratives. You make history come alive in the way that nobody else does , to me m.
Really enjoying this channel! Only discovered it about three weeks ago and I've already watched pretty much all of them. Great stuff. I love this guys ways of talking as well, such a soothing voice. I look forward to literally any video from him at this point :)
I've written a book about Cranmer - The Sacrificing of Thomas Cranmer - and I've found this interesting, very accurate and well researched. Thankyou very much for this.
2:18 That portrait of Catherine of Aragonsuch is such a lifelike depiction. It’s funny that in movies she’s always played by an actress who has black hair when she was really a blonde. And it would seem, much more beautiful than all his other wives. I understand why he did it, to everything he knew at the time, he had to have a boy or England would go into upheaval when he died. But I’m sure he eventually regretted his decision.
I love this channel. I mean no offense, but so many of these people were absolutely insane, and you give all the dirt. You make learning fun and dishy. Love it.
There's something about history and in particular dark events that are interesting! Cranmer's story for me is a rather bizarre one! A big fall from grace.
@@TheUntoldPast - If King Edward VI hadn't died so young then Thomas Cranmer would have no doubt succeeded in turning the Church of England from an integral part of the Church Universal into a mere Protestant sect, and our great Cathedrals from powerhouses of prayer into roofless ruins. Fortunately England's National Church has long since recovered from the damage which Cranmer and the other Reformers of the 16th Century inflicted upon her, to the extent that when I'm in Oxford I can call in at the Chapel of New College (a mere stone's throw from the site of Cranmer's burning in Broad Street) and listen to the Choir singing Compline in Latin. Master Cranmer would NOT have approved!
One thing is quite clear.Whether Catholics or Protestants, the Christian world did not derive any lesson whatsoever from The Life of their God,Jesus Christ.Christ, was the epitome of Love,Compassion and Mercy .But look at these people!What lesson did they derive from the Scriptures and from His Life?
@OrganicOrganist Maybe I just watched too much Wolf Hall! In that he is pictured very differently than the Thomas from A man for all seasons. I'm a Catholic also who has been sad over the reformation and dissolution of the monasteries.
I imagine it was nerve-wracking to work under Henry viii. If he didn't have your head eventually other people would. Life with the Tudors must have been like the 6th & 7th ring of Hell,
Tell me , would you have lit the fire 🔥 then stand there watching and listening to his screaming pain and suffance . Saying its ok it's fine he deserves it 😢🥵 . Explain yourself if can , and justify what is just about burning a man to death and rubbing your with glee roasting chestnuts in the embers . Simply because he did not see the same way as others or you.
@@chaoticneutral4665 who gives a fuck i don't . Get it right at least French Spanish German and others is where the blood is . Uncles cousins even brothers and sisters across Europe all and everyone to keep the purity of decent. Bollocks forget morality fuck it , the basics of biology proofs the point .
I kind of wish you'd said something like "Henry's perceived failure by Anne to provide a male heir". Without it, it makes it sound like it actually is her fault. Good video, though. I can't help but admire people who so strongly believe in something that they would endure so much.
If Henry had said, "I have a daughter and I want to train her to lead" could she have been way different, remember no split with Rome, a lifetime of training, etc.
I don’t know how anyone survived that dynasty. “What’s your name?” -John “‘How do you spell that?” -J O “When did the devil teach you to read?!” -Oh shit...
Under our Constitution the Archbishopric of Canterbury is the highest office in the land to which a Commoner may aspire, taking precedence over that of the Prime Minister. I believe that Saint William Laud , who went to the block on Tower Hill on 10th January, 1645, was the last holder of this ancient office to be martyred.
Cranmer was really underrated he saw 4 wives married 2 beheaded 2 kings rule and 1 queen his love for Anne Boleyn as a strong independent religious woman of the reformation bound him to ensure that after her death Elizabeth would be treated fairly and kindly he NEVER believed the charges made against Anne was sympathetic to Catherine Howard’s immaturity but sadly was ruled as they all were by a tyrannical king who wanted what he wanted at all costs his redemption by placing his hand within his flames wasn’t just only at his reincantation but for all the failures he felt he had made that had changed England in his years
When I stand in Oxford's Broad Street looking at the place where Thomas Cranmer was martyred - usually after tucking into a hearty supper of Cod 'n' Chips at the nearby White Horse, washed down with a pint or two of Real Ale - I often wonder what this Realm of England (and its National Church) would look like today had Cranmer been burned at the stake for heresy not during the reign of Mary I but instead during that of her father, King Henry VIII ... as so nearly happened. Then I head off to the Chapel of New College and listen to the Choir singing Compline in Latin, pretty much as they would have done back in 1379, before lighting a candle of my own before their statue of the Blessed Virgin Mary.. The Church of England has recovered remarkably well from the damage which the Reformers of the 16th Century so gratuitously inflicted upon her!
@@KempSimon is that sounds like an amazing supper although I’m not sure about the few pints before church 😂 but be blessed and enjoy a chip or 2 for me as you ponder into the abyss of what ifs what an amazing place it is x
An era where you had to have your wits about you to be on the right side every time the tables turned...which was quite often. Stephen Gardiner managed it , Edmund Bonner too , and perhaps one or two others. Poor old Cranmer got left high and dry when the tide turned.
If you think that the execution of Archbishop Thomas Cranmer in Oxford in March 1556 was brutal and horrific then I can't wait to read your account of the burning of Bishop John Hooper in the market place at Gloucester on the morning of 9th February 1555. The fire blew out, and had to be re-lit, three times ....
@@ambermaccraig7316 - It took Bishop Hooper forty-five minutes to die. First of all the lower half of his body was burned away, so that his bowels gushed out into the flames ....
@@jamieyoho2310 - - It's all there for you to read in "Foxe's Book of Martyrs". Run "Bishop John Hooper" past any search engine and you'll be treated to all of the gory details . The wet and windy English climate does not really lend itself to burnings at the stake.
Why no mention of "A dialogue on comfort in tribulation" written by More while in the tower. A work of logic which inevitably led him to the block. A must read for anyone interested in this topic
To understand history in context and with any degree of usefulness, one must keep firmly in mind that the more things have changed, the more they have stayed the same. Understand that the powers that be, may not burn to death trouble makers or those that speak the truth, they deal with them using more subtle but just as effective means. At a time when many people feared for the destination of their immortal souls rather than the horrors of physical torture and execution, the only 'solution' was to kill them and use the fear engendered by public execution to act as a deterrent to others who may become troublesome. In far less enlightened and God-fearing times such as these, fines, a minor criminal record, public ridicule, or simply being banned from Twitter may suffice. We now have fast-approaching Social Credit Scores, which will perfectly silence all dissent from the established norms. The entire purpose of government from its earliest times was to control the minds and therefore actions of the people from the very top to the very bottom of the social ladder. The irony is that the bottom rarely needed to be as micro-managed as it is today, as the constant prospect of poverty for those who did not work or produce largely did the job all by itself. In many ways, this means that life for ordinary people was better than those at the top. Life for the majority was far freer, generally healthier, almost infinitely less complicated, less murderously barbaric, and certainly more socially cohesive than it is today. The masses simply did not live in the sort of daily misery that our history teachers are obliged to make us believe.
Actually, since he help break England from the yoke of the power of the Papacy, he helped diminish the Pope’s power and helped to start the decline of religion in state business.
@@redsorgum not really because in many of those cases, they have replaced the state as religion, so in truth they are not really atheist, they would more correctly be called statist.
@@redsorgum Nope. An atheist is simply someone who doesn't believe in the existence of gods. That's it. To suggest atheists are communists or are otherwise grouped politically is just misunderstanding atheism. But you don't need to take my word. Just look it up.
First. I haven't even watched the video yet, and I'm already gonna tell ya that you did a great job. Keep up the good work, dude. Seriously. That Henry VIII was a real prick, lemme tell ya
That is very true, but unfortunately human beings can't, in the main leave questions and mysteries along. If there is no answer - invent one and make disbelief very dangerous, it is a useful tool to gai power
So, Cranmer's actions led to the execution of two queens who harmed nobody. Being burnt at the stake on the orders of a queen is the most fitting end for him.
Never really looked at it that way. However, you MUST take into account that, although his involvement w Katherine Howard's execution was completely voluntary AND deliberate, his involvement w Anne Boleyn's death was out of his hands..., you honestly think that Henry the 8th or Cromwell gave him a choice or any other options? It was her life or his and, considering all the upheaval Anne caused (along w King Henry) she wasn't exactly "innocent". Let's not forget that she only received her due karma, when you think about all the bs she put poor ol Catherine through. At least Anne's death was swift and MUCH MORE merciful than she deserved. I don't feel sorry for her one bit, she danced to the music and ultimately had to pay the fiddler! The only injustice about her death was Henry the 8th's absence kneeling beside her upon the scaffold getting his fu*king head chopped off as well!
@@ambermaccraig7316 Anne Boleyn did nothing to Catherine other that some petty squabbles Anne helped many charity’s and was far more generous than Catherine she was also a big advocate of you get to heaven through good deeds and not giving money to the church unlike Catherine
Which might well explain why the modern Church of England has made him one. albeit not in quite the same league as King Charles I, who has three churches named in his honour.
And Henry 8th was I suppose, the Kings and Queens of this do as they pleased cheated , lyed , and conspired at their own convenience and for the own ends . Many innocent where put to death for this reason and no other . This happened before the Tudors , during the Tudor era and after . The Tudor era being the most imformace
@@punkwrestle maybe you should take the time to read my responses to other people regarding this subject . You will find all and everything to the contrary, you are wrong
@@punkwrestle all and everybody where at it at the time across Europe , It King's, Queens, Churches , Advisers, or what ever of authoritie . They where corrupt for the main part , as for as the Bishops Cardinals and Church are concerned that's basic common knowledge, religious faith went had in hand with the ruling body's of the time ( King's and Queens) . Not many King's or Queens around these days, and with a limited few exceptions they serve for not much more than figure heads and postal stamps
Actually the Tudors did a lot of great things for England. They kicked out the criminal and corrupt Catholic Church, thus saving their kids from being molested by pedo priest! That’s got to be a great thing in their favor!
@@CSUnger dont' know about that. IN DAYS GONE BY, secrecy was easy to keep; The cloak of Darkness was all that was needed. TODAY, there is no hiding place. EVERYTHING is on camera or recorded. NO SO in Ancient History. STORIES never told will NEVER be TOLD.
“Religious fanaticism.” Is that your only comment on this video? That they were fanatics? Why did you bother commenting at all if your only thought was this?
@OrganicOrganist - only because she didn’t live long enough. She said many times that she would burn as many Protestants as necessary to bring England back to Catholicism. And I didn’t create the nickname. History did.
@@vdimasteremeritus ur right. Yes other rulers killed more ppl but in her VERY short reign she killed a staggering amount of ppl. Had she ruled for 40 years she would have been compared to Stalin in history. She believed god wouldnt allow her to go into labor until she killed enough protestants. TWICE. Her encroaching madness combined w religious zealotry would have resulted in generations of horror for England. Kinda like ivan the terrible.
Thank the gods for Henry creating that schism with Rome, and helping to cast off the yoke of theocracy in Europe. The church had WAY too much influence in places it had no business being. Dark ages indeed
Very well spoken... information spot on, and clearly understood. I myself believe Bloody Marys contempt for what her Father did you her Mom , set her in motion to destroy whoever was connected to it. A woman full of anger. Blessings ~ I’m in 🇺🇸 I have long begg egg n a history buff of England’s wide range of unfortunate Kings & Queens demise.
Cramner had met the requirements of absolution by his prior recantation, but Mary was only interested in vengeance, so the stake was his fate. Of course, it backfired on her.
we all come from psychopaths; the amount of public violence these people must have witnessed with executions like this and animal baiting as entertainment
@@nobbynoris Yes, that J. A. Digal seems to be a born and bred Bigot. I'm from the gaelic Catholic flock but I greatly admire the Anglican Church. However I can never get it out of my mind that all this religion is entirely cultural ....and that there's no "God".
This should be a warning to the rest of the world, we Brits have removed the heads of kings and queens executed admirals on the decks of their ships. Plus other not so nice things to other members of the human race, so do remember we Brits are not the soft push over you may think.
Except now your empire is no more. You are basically an Island where the sun never shines. You needed the US to help you deal with Germany, twice, you couldn’t handle Libya on your own and Argentina even sank one of your Battleships....
@@punkwrestle What a myopic understanding of history and both world wars. You probably think France is all about surrender, too, don’t you. Or that D-Day was the beginning of the end for Hitler. You should read more. It would help explain what the US is going to experience in the rest of this century as we hand our title of the world’s greatest power over to China.
Britain faces the real prospect of losing Scotland, and of a unified Ireland that could also leave it, within the next 10 years. I can’t imagine the damage it must do to a nation’s psyche, going from the great British Empire to England and Wales.
Interesting that they didn’t tie prisoners’s hands at the stake. Their arms and legs were left free, so Cranmer was able to put his hand into the flames. They just chained them to the stake at the waist.
I've been reading through the comments. At the end of the day, don't blame Queen Mary, Cromwell, Cranmer, Voldemort (don't know how that one got in there) or even Queen Elizabeth (I or II). THIS WAS ALL HENRY'S MESS!!!
His execution was not particularly "horrific", that is for those times. Some of the leaders of the Pilgrimage of Grace against the adoption of the new Book of Common Prayer and the Dissolution of the Monasteries about twenty years earlier had been hanged, drawn, quartered, disembowelled, castrated and beheaded. They did not mess about in those days. Cranmer got off easy!
I don’t see how he stood up to Mary, when he renounced his faith, and embraced Catholicism to save himself. It would have been more honorable had he not bowed the knee, but I’m not his judge, these are just my thoughts. Thanks
He should have fled England after Edward's death...Mary had it in for him over his role in the King's marriage to Ann Boleyn..making Mary illegitimate...he should have known this as well...
Thomas Cranmer got exactly what he deserved! First he betrayed his vows as a Catholic priest. Since this was the Reformation, we'll give him a pass on that. Then he threw Anne Boleyn under the bus when she fell out of favor with Henry VIII, even though Cranmer owed his position as Archbishop of Canterbury to the Boleyn's. In fact, Cranmer played instrumental role in Anne Boleyn's final fate. Cranmer also encouraged Edward VI to disinherit Mary and Elizabeth and supported the illegitimate claim of Lady Jane Grey. After Queen Mary restored England to the One True Faith, Thomas Cranmer renounced Protestantism and declared himself a Catholic. However, Cranmer did not fool good and wise Queen Mary, who saw him for what he was and had him justifiably burnt at the stake. I used to work in Oxford and often passed the place where the Three Bind Mice were executed, regretting that I couldn't witness the events in person. As foul as Hell is, it's worse with Thomas Cranmer there!
No, he was Lord High Chancellor, and just refused to go along with Henry's divorce thing. He was subsequently made a Catholic saint, but he was never the archbishop.
I'll always believe Mary got him as revenge for his part in her mother's treatment by Henry viii and Anne Boleyn.
Elizabeth had little reason to love him, too, after his betrayal of her mother, too.
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@@ladyv5655 that was Cromwell...
You bet Mary did that. I would.
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@@marichuvinas6848 she was a vile woman who is burning in hell right now
Tudor England was a very good example of "what goes around, comes around".
True. Ive just started watching these videos thay are really good and are informational
Good way of looking at the events.
Well said!
The Taliban are tame compared to the brutally of the Catholic inquisition.
@@stevedavies8703 Well the Spanish Inquisition was a dominant force for more than 200 years, resulting in some 32,000 executions. Henry the VIII caught 70,000+ before he passed.
The Taliban, as of September 2021, more than 70,000 Afghan and Pakistani civilians are estimated to have died as a direct result of the war. Arguably these 70K are run of a much larger world population though.
What a way to start 2021, with a new video from one of my favourite channels.
You're too kind Lee! I've just spent today making a few more videos, currently have about 5 queued up!
I’m really fussy as to what history videos I watch but this channel has rapidly become a favourite
Too ✅ what a great series
@@TheUntoldPast Thanks for getting me through sleepless nights
Was there any execution in this era that was NOT brutal and horrific?
A clean beheading but that got screwed up sometimes. Hanging was slow strangulation prior to the drop (trap door) that was supposed to break the neck.
@@duncanbryson1167 - Not necessarily as the pressure caused by the rope as it contracted around the neck would often paralyse the heart due to over-stimulation of the vagus nerve, thereby causing a relatively quick and painless death.
@@KempSimon
I hadn't heard of this but wouldn't that be in a low percentage of cases?
@@duncanbryson1167
Most hangings in the British isles prior to the late 19th century were done without consideration of the victims height and weight. That's the key element in whether or not it's a slow death by strangulation or a quick break of the neck. Height and weight determine the length of the "drop" in the rope needed to accomplish a "clean" execution. For further details see "Lord High Executioner" by Howard Engel. It's a fascinating read.
@@KempSimon
Correct you are sir. Unconsciousness sets in long before death by strangulation. Approximately 15-30 seconds. The body's jerky responses after that are purely motor neurons firing until death ceases all.
THANK YOU for using the correct term of annulment instead of ‘divorce’! It’s one of my biggest Tudor-related pet peeves lol. Subscribed just for that- made my day! 😂
I have to say this was incredibly researched, well assembled, edited and presented. Overall a good history lesson, well done. Cramner had his choices and his chances, he denied all of them.
I love your story called documentation of some truly astonishing historical narratives. You make history come alive in the way that nobody else does , to me m.
Mary never forgave Cranmer for what he did to her mother, Catherine of Aragon. And she got her bloody revenge.
Richard Taylor Thank God.If anyone deserved it he did.
@@rscottlogan9471 he didn't have Katherine of Aragon put to death...
@@jamellfoster6029 no I’m pretty sure she died in a nunnery.
@@rscottlogan9471 he deserved to be burnt to death? Why?
I can't blame her.
He was to Henry VIII what Smithers is to Mr. Burns.
Or what Dominic Cummings was to Boris Johnson?
@Arm Head
You mean Smithers was a wet noodle, too?
I doubt Cranmer fantasized about Henry like Smithers does.
@@michaelsims1160
I don't know much about that TV series; but, from what I recall, from years ago, is that Smithers was "a willing stooge".
No, I think that would be Thomas Cromwell.
Those Tudors were really brutal, no one was safe Henry 8th was a savage.
Of the worst Henry VIII stands first
He suffered for his sins!!!
I would have loved to have been in the halls of Hampton court preferably as a guard so I could hear and see everything without fear of being be headed
He became savage after his injury. They say the brain trama changed him and his need for a boy.
@@colinturner4158 he didn't suffer enough
HE WAS ALSO BRAIN DAMAGED FROM A JOUST
Born in Aslockton. A tiny village south of Nottingham. There's a sign board with information on the village high street.
I’m so glad I found your channel, you have a new subscriber.
Really enjoying this channel! Only discovered it about three weeks ago and I've already watched pretty much all of them. Great stuff. I love this guys ways of talking as well, such a soothing voice. I look forward to literally any video from him at this point :)
Thanks! :) Your kind words mean a lot!
I've written a book about Cranmer - The Sacrificing of Thomas Cranmer - and I've found this interesting, very accurate and well researched. Thankyou very much for this.
These are excellent to listen to and very well put together.
Happy New Year.
Thanks for all your videos, I have learnt so much because you make learning so enjoyable.
Thank you Elizabeth! You're too kind!
2:18 That portrait of Catherine of Aragonsuch is such a lifelike depiction. It’s funny that in movies she’s always played by an actress who has black hair when she was really a blonde. And it would seem, much more beautiful than all his other wives. I understand why he did it, to everything he knew at the time, he had to have a boy or England would go into upheaval when he died. But I’m sure he eventually regretted his decision.
I heard that she actually had red hair
@@dainethompson8085 Strawberry blond like her mother
Your style of presentation always interests me. You really know your history. Pete 🇬🇧
Dudeeee I love your videos! Great way to start the year!!!
I love this channel. I mean no offense, but so many of these people were absolutely insane, and you give all the dirt. You make learning fun and dishy. Love it.
Hard to accept what these people did to each other and why. Horrific insanity.
It was a rather tumultuous time in English history!
@@TheUntoldPast this story and others like it, help explain why the Founders of America wanted a high wall between the church and the state
His beard keeps coming and going. Great video
I hate to hear these terrible stories, but I can’t stop listening.
There's something about history and in particular dark events that are interesting! Cranmer's story for me is a rather bizarre one! A big fall from grace.
EXACTLY!!! This channel is so addicting. I'm glad i stumbled across it. I humbly ask....."More, Please. Thank You." and yes I'm a new subbie!
@@TheUntoldPast - If King Edward VI hadn't died so young then Thomas Cranmer would have no doubt succeeded in turning the Church of England from an integral part of the Church Universal into a mere Protestant sect, and our great Cathedrals from powerhouses of prayer into roofless ruins. Fortunately England's National Church has long since recovered from the damage which Cranmer and the other Reformers of the 16th Century inflicted upon her, to the extent that when I'm in Oxford I can call in at the Chapel of New College (a mere stone's throw from the site of Cranmer's burning in Broad Street) and listen to the Choir singing Compline in Latin. Master Cranmer would NOT have approved!
Me too
Tudor times were Gripping
Loving your channel here in New Zealand. So glad I didn’t live in those times. Or did I ?
I just found your channel. It's a keeper. I love Tudor and Renaissance history and I will look for more from you.
Thanks Sara!
@@TheUntoldPast You are most welcome.
Your content is so educational. Despite the macabre nature, I've learned more about English history here than from any other source. Thank you.
Thanks for your comment, much more to come :)
Over 1,700 viewers per hour at this time so far! Way to go!
One thing is quite clear.Whether Catholics or Protestants, the Christian world did not derive any lesson whatsoever from The Life of their God,Jesus Christ.Christ, was the epitome of Love,Compassion and Mercy .But look at these people!What lesson did they derive from the Scriptures and from His Life?
One of my most instinctive gut reactions is to detest the 16th century regarding Christendom.
@OrganicOrganist I read somewhere many years back he was cruel to folk with mental health problems.
It was purely political. Christ wouldn't allow himself to be manipulated politically.
@OrganicOrganist Mind you apparently TM although a canonized saint wasn't always nice to those who adopted the new faith.
@OrganicOrganist Maybe I just watched too much Wolf Hall! In that he is pictured very differently than the Thomas from A man for all seasons. I'm a Catholic also who has been sad over the reformation and dissolution of the monasteries.
I really enjoy the content of this channel.
I imagine it was nerve-wracking to work under Henry viii. If he didn't have your head eventually other people would. Life with the Tudors must have been like the 6th & 7th ring of Hell,
Love medieval history. It’s like chess. Everyone wants the centre square. England.
Same! Agree with you here!
This is after the middle ages.
@@christiandaugherty6339 Post Rennaisance too.
@@pigface2862 yep. Classed as Early Modern.
Honestly the way he treated Queen Catherine and tortured Catholics, I'm not sad over his demise.
He certainly was incredibly sneaky.
Tell me , would you have lit the fire 🔥 then stand there watching and listening to his screaming pain and suffance . Saying its ok it's fine he deserves it 😢🥵 . Explain yourself if can , and justify what is just about burning a man to death and rubbing your with glee roasting chestnuts in the embers . Simply because he did not see the same way as others or you.
Mary burned him and over 300 others for not being catholic and now the english crown is worn by a german
@@miketaverner4451 Well said sir.
@@chaoticneutral4665 who gives a fuck i don't . Get it right at least French Spanish German and others is where the blood is . Uncles cousins even brothers and sisters across Europe all and everyone to keep the purity of decent. Bollocks forget morality fuck it , the basics of biology proofs the point .
I kind of wish you'd said something like "Henry's perceived failure by Anne to provide a male heir". Without it, it makes it sound like it actually is her fault. Good video, though. I can't help but admire people who so strongly believe in something that they would endure so much.
I can understand why Mary I was the way she was but all of the problems were because of Henry VIII.
If Henry had said, "I have a daughter and I want to train her to lead" could she have been way different, remember no split with Rome, a lifetime of training, etc.
I don’t know how anyone survived that dynasty.
“What’s your name?”
-John
“‘How do you spell that?”
-J O
“When did the devil teach you to read?!”
-Oh shit...
Either keep out of sight or mind or be very clever
The most deserved sentence ever. You mess the wrong girl mr. Cram
Damn being the archbishop of Canterbury seems to have been a white elephant that leads to many death sentences!
Under our Constitution the Archbishopric of Canterbury is the highest office in the land to which a Commoner may aspire, taking precedence over that of the Prime Minister. I believe that Saint William Laud , who went to the block on Tower Hill on 10th January, 1645, was the last holder of this ancient office to be martyred.
"Congratulations, you have been chosen as the new Archbishop of Canterbury."
"Umm...can I pass?"
Thank you, the way you tell a story, I can picture everything.....hmmmm don't know if that is a good thing or not 😆 however you tell a great story.
When I look at paintings of queen Mary, all I can think is, how hidious she must have been. It's terrible, I know.
She was a broken person. The brutality of her upbringing twisted her into a monster. It didn't help she wasn't pretty lol
She looks like a man in the picture.
Queen Elizabeth I killed far more people .
Brian Fuller ?? Really? Such as?
Well done presentation
Mary: My first act as queen is to host a bbq!
His wife - Joan - worked at the local hairdressers.
Wash and set gal I recall?
Cranmer was really underrated he saw 4 wives married 2 beheaded 2 kings rule and 1 queen his love for Anne Boleyn as a strong independent religious woman of the reformation bound him to ensure that after her death Elizabeth would be treated fairly and kindly he NEVER believed the charges made against Anne was sympathetic to Catherine Howard’s immaturity but sadly was ruled as they all were by a tyrannical king who wanted what he wanted at all costs his redemption by placing his hand within his flames wasn’t just only at his reincantation but for all the failures he felt he had made that had changed England in his years
When I stand in Oxford's Broad Street looking at the place where Thomas Cranmer was martyred - usually after tucking into a hearty supper of Cod 'n' Chips at the nearby White Horse, washed down with a pint or two of Real Ale - I often wonder what this Realm of England (and its National Church) would look like today had Cranmer been burned at the stake for heresy not during the reign of Mary I but instead during that of her father, King Henry VIII ... as so nearly happened. Then I head off to the Chapel of New College and listen to the Choir singing Compline in Latin, pretty much as they would have done back in 1379, before lighting a candle of my own before their statue of the Blessed Virgin Mary.. The Church of England has recovered remarkably well from the damage which the Reformers of the 16th Century so gratuitously inflicted upon her!
@@KempSimon is that sounds like an amazing supper although I’m not sure about the few pints before church 😂 but be blessed and enjoy a chip or 2 for me as you ponder into the abyss of what ifs what an amazing place it is x
An era where you had to have your wits about you to be on the right side every time the tables turned...which was quite often. Stephen Gardiner managed it , Edmund Bonner too , and perhaps one or two others. Poor old Cranmer got left high and dry when the tide turned.
these videos 🙏♥️soothe my soul idkw
The depiction of him at 2.45 looks like it came out of Japan about 500 years later 😂
That is one reason why our constitution separated churc from state. Also about money could not be taken by the state. 💥💥💥💥
If you think that the execution of Archbishop Thomas Cranmer in Oxford in March 1556 was brutal and horrific then I can't wait to read your account of the burning of Bishop John Hooper in the market place at Gloucester on the morning of 9th February 1555. The fire blew out, and had to be re-lit, three times ....
Omg, sweet Jesus. Poor dude.
Good god! I heard friends with tie bags of gunpowder the victim to hasten their deaths
It’s just disgusting.
@@ambermaccraig7316 - It took Bishop Hooper forty-five minutes to die. First of all the lower half of his body was burned away, so that his bowels gushed out into the flames ....
@@jamieyoho2310 - - It's all there for you to read in "Foxe's Book of Martyrs". Run "Bishop John Hooper" past any search engine and you'll be treated to all of the gory details . The wet and windy English climate does not really lend itself to burnings at the stake.
What goes round.....
How unfortunate for Henry VIII protestants change the sacrament which renders invalid.
The Church of England was not Protestant enough for the Reformers and too Protestant for the Catholics.
Why no mention of "A dialogue on comfort in tribulation" written by More while in the tower. A work of logic which inevitably led him to the block. A must read for anyone interested in this topic
What brutal videos of people being executed. It makes me very happy that I was not born into that period of time.
To understand history in context and with any degree of usefulness, one must keep firmly in mind that the more things have changed, the more they have stayed the same. Understand that the powers that be, may not burn to death trouble makers or those that speak the truth, they deal with them using more subtle but just as effective means.
At a time when many people feared for the destination of their immortal souls rather than the horrors of physical torture and execution, the only 'solution' was to kill them and use the fear engendered by public execution to act as a deterrent to others who may become troublesome.
In far less enlightened and God-fearing times such as these, fines, a minor criminal record, public ridicule, or simply being banned from Twitter may suffice.
We now have fast-approaching Social Credit Scores, which will perfectly silence all dissent from the established norms.
The entire purpose of government from its earliest times was to control the minds and therefore actions of the people from the very top to the very bottom of the social ladder. The irony is that the bottom rarely needed to be as micro-managed as it is today, as the constant prospect of poverty for those who did not work or produce largely did the job all by itself.
In many ways, this means that life for ordinary people was better than those at the top. Life for the majority was far freer, generally healthier, almost infinitely less complicated, less murderously barbaric, and certainly more socially cohesive than it is today. The masses simply did not live in the sort of daily misery that our history teachers are obliged to make us believe.
What did they call him after the rack? Stretch?
This sort of thing happens every time religion meddles in politics. You'd think people would have learned by now.
Actually, since he help break England from the yoke of the power of the Papacy, he helped diminish the Pope’s power and helped to start the decline of religion in state business.
@@punkwrestle Yeah, I'm sure that was his intent all along lol.
You mean like the atheist in the name of communism?
@@redsorgum not really because in many of those cases, they have replaced the state as religion, so in truth they are not really atheist, they would more correctly be called statist.
@@redsorgum Nope. An atheist is simply someone who doesn't believe in the existence of gods. That's it. To suggest atheists are communists or are otherwise grouped politically is just misunderstanding atheism. But you don't need to take my word. Just look it up.
I know someone who is a descendant on his mother’s side.
Addictivly interesting series👍
First. I haven't even watched the video yet, and I'm already gonna tell ya that you did a great job. Keep up the good work, dude. Seriously. That Henry VIII was a real prick, lemme tell ya
Thanks Ross! More to come shortly! Thanks for your comment.
That is very true, but unfortunately human beings can't, in the main leave questions and mysteries along. If there is no answer - invent one and make disbelief very dangerous, it is a useful tool to gai power
yeah an lemme tell ya that Abe lanky Lincoln were a scrawny necked nancy boy ethiopis amoriti 😂
So, Cranmer's actions led to the execution of two queens who harmed nobody. Being burnt at the stake on the orders of a queen is the most fitting end for him.
Never really looked at it that way. However, you MUST take into account that, although his involvement w Katherine Howard's execution was completely voluntary AND deliberate, his involvement w Anne Boleyn's death was out of his hands..., you honestly think that Henry the 8th or Cromwell gave him a choice or any other options? It was her life or his and, considering all the upheaval Anne caused (along w King Henry) she wasn't exactly "innocent". Let's not forget that she only received her due karma, when you think about all the bs she put poor ol Catherine through. At least Anne's death was swift and MUCH MORE merciful than she deserved. I don't feel sorry for her one bit, she danced to the music and ultimately had to pay the fiddler! The only injustice about her death was Henry the 8th's absence kneeling beside her upon the scaffold getting his fu*king head chopped off as well!
Yeah he Might be considered a martyr but it seems to me he served only himself.
@@ambermaccraig7316 Anne Boleyn did nothing to Catherine other that some petty squabbles Anne helped many charity’s and was far more generous than Catherine she was also a big advocate of you get to heaven through good deeds and not giving money to the church unlike Catherine
@@MrTangolizard She and Henry wore yellow (celebrating) when Catherine died.
Cranmer was no saint.
Which might well explain why the modern Church of England has made him one. albeit not in quite the same league as King Charles I, who has three churches named in his honour.
And Henry 8th was I suppose, the Kings and Queens of this do as they pleased cheated , lyed , and conspired at their own convenience and for the own ends . Many innocent where put to death for this reason and no other . This happened before the Tudors , during the Tudor era and after . The Tudor era being the most imformace
@@punkwrestle maybe you should take the time to read my responses to other people regarding this subject . You will find all and everything to the contrary, you are wrong
@@miketaverner4451 True but you failed to mention the church was as bad as the kings and queens and even more corrupt.
@@punkwrestle all and everybody where at it at the time across Europe , It King's, Queens, Churches , Advisers, or what ever of authoritie . They where corrupt for the main part , as for as the Bishops Cardinals and Church are concerned that's basic common knowledge, religious faith went had in hand with the ruling body's of the time ( King's and Queens) . Not many King's or Queens around these days, and with a limited few exceptions they serve for not much more than figure heads and postal stamps
Would you have done a portrait of
Mary The First
She hated it of course.
Thomas Cranmer is one of my favourite historical figures.
Formation of the anglican church-the first Brexit!
The Anglican Church was a creation of the English State.
Horrible royalty. They were pure evil. Bless all the brave souls put to death.
That bunch of clergy were as useless as today's clergy.
Actually the Tudors did a lot of great things for England. They kicked out the criminal and corrupt Catholic Church, thus saving their kids from being molested by pedo priest!
That’s got to be a great thing in their favor!
@@punkwrestle hrs. They
Ade buggery and piracy all the rage
Not so sure about that
@@punkwrestle A little naive there I'm afraid.
What insane times to live in. Religious fanaticism and all those subject to it.
The history of our “powerful”, when it is ultimately revealed, will prove to be even more barbaric and medieval.
@@CSUnger dont' know about that. IN DAYS GONE BY, secrecy was easy to keep; The cloak of Darkness was all that was needed. TODAY, there is no hiding place. EVERYTHING is on camera or recorded. NO SO in Ancient History. STORIES never told will NEVER be TOLD.
@@jjsiegal1 Unless YOU control the cameras.
“Religious fanaticism.” Is that your only comment on this video? That they were fanatics? Why did you bother commenting at all if your only thought was this?
@@mozardthebest For the Simple, a more complicated answer is needed. For the Wise, a simple answer suffices. *Ya get it now???
They didn’t call her “Bloody Mary” for nothing.
@OrganicOrganist - only because she didn’t live long enough. She said many times that she would burn as many Protestants as necessary to bring England back to Catholicism. And I didn’t create the nickname. History did.
@@vdimasteremeritus ur right. Yes other rulers killed more ppl but in her VERY short reign she killed a staggering amount of ppl. Had she ruled for 40 years she would have been compared to Stalin in history. She believed god wouldnt allow her to go into labor until she killed enough protestants. TWICE. Her encroaching madness combined w religious zealotry would have resulted in generations of horror for England. Kinda like ivan the terrible.
@@jamieyoho2310 twaddle
Thank god that we live in better times. Having a kind heart goes a long way
Thank the gods for Henry creating that schism with Rome, and helping to cast off the yoke of theocracy in Europe. The church had WAY too much influence in places it had no business being. Dark ages indeed
@@Marc3l1n3 happy new year. Mind yourself and your loves one during these dark days of covid. Hope for brighter days for all of us.
@@Marc3l1n3 Creating a church headed by the King. So much better?
Very well spoken... information spot on, and clearly understood. I myself believe Bloody Marys contempt for what her Father did you her Mom , set her in motion to destroy whoever was connected to it. A woman full of anger.
Blessings ~
I’m in 🇺🇸
I have long begg egg n a history buff of England’s wide range of unfortunate Kings & Queens demise.
Thanks for your great comment! :)
Looks like Cranmer met my good friend Karma 😂😂😂
He got marys revenge. Because of this man her life was hell and she never got to see her mother again
But she went on to make other people's lives hell as well.
I’m sorry but I can’t not think of him as the actor in the Tudors.
They made a law substituting Crammer's prayers in place of the mass and the body of Christ.
There are stories of hauntings from these burnings.
I thought Henry's lawyer Oliver Cromwell (not the other Cromwell of the revolution) was the man behind the divorce of Catherine and execution of Anne.
Do you mean Thomas Cromwell?
Thomas C.
Cramner had met the requirements of absolution by his prior recantation, but Mary was only interested in vengeance, so the stake was his fate. Of course, it backfired on her.
Religion...what a wonderful idea
we all come from psychopaths; the amount of public violence these people must have witnessed with executions like this and animal baiting as entertainment
It’s interesting how most portraits of him show weirdness on the right eye where he was hit with the lance… maybe an orbital break or skull fracture.
that's Catholic hypocrisy and barbarity
Come on, man. Both sides were persecuting people in those days.
@@nobbynoris
Yes, that J. A. Digal seems to be a born and bred Bigot. I'm from the gaelic Catholic flock but I greatly admire the Anglican Church. However I can never get it out of my mind that all this religion is entirely cultural ....and that there's no "God".
Revenge, money, power, lust and then religion it always comes first. They say it is religion, but the real reasons are money, lust, revenge and power.
or politics
Mary I's depiction @6:35 looks remarkably like US President Gerald R. Ford in drag.
He deserved it. Go Mary!!! Mary is the best
This should be a warning to the rest of the world, we Brits have removed the heads of kings and queens executed admirals on the decks of their ships. Plus other not so nice things to other members of the human race, so do remember we Brits are not the soft push over you may think.
Except now your empire is no more. You are basically an Island where the sun never shines. You needed the US to help you deal with Germany, twice, you couldn’t handle Libya on your own and Argentina even sank one of your Battleships....
@@punkwrestle I think America came into the second world war because of the Japanese attack on it and not to help others at least initially.
@@punkwrestle What a myopic understanding of history and both world wars. You probably think France is all about surrender, too, don’t you. Or that D-Day was the beginning of the end for Hitler. You should read more. It would help explain what the US is going to experience in the rest of this century as we hand our title of the world’s greatest power over to China.
Britain faces the real prospect of losing Scotland, and of a unified Ireland that could also leave it, within the next 10 years. I can’t imagine the damage it must do to a nation’s psyche, going from the great British Empire to England and Wales.
O England, my Lionheart.
Cranmer should have fled after Henry died. He had so many opportunities to do a runner....What a clown
Interesting that they didn’t tie prisoners’s hands at the stake. Their arms and legs were left free, so Cranmer was able to put his hand into the flames. They just chained them to the stake at the waist.
I've been reading through the comments. At the end of the day, don't blame Queen Mary, Cromwell, Cranmer, Voldemort (don't know how that one got in there) or even Queen Elizabeth (I or II).
THIS WAS ALL HENRY'S MESS!!!
In which year did he grow his beard? Often tells the make of the man.
His execution was not particularly "horrific", that is for those times. Some of the leaders of the Pilgrimage of Grace against the adoption of the new Book of Common Prayer and the Dissolution of the Monasteries about twenty years earlier had been hanged, drawn, quartered, disembowelled, castrated and beheaded. They did not mess about in those days. Cranmer got off easy!
A lot of those Marian burnings were bungled, causing prolonged suffering.
Bishop Cranmer, in many ways the founder of our Anglican faith. God rest the soul of your honorable and righteous servant.
I’ll look for the happiest one handed man in heaven when I get there.
Not unless Anne B. get's to him first.
ah that's Thomas Cromwell not Oliver Cromwell,
Wow! Mary I was a very ugly woman.
I mean she was fine queen
Id you forget the burning of heretics
I don’t see how he stood up to Mary, when he renounced his faith, and embraced Catholicism to save himself. It would have been more honorable had he not bowed the knee, but I’m not his judge, these are just my thoughts. Thanks
Elizabeth 1 was truly the first great Queen of England
Pure evil along with john dee🤣
He should have fled England after Edward's death...Mary had it in for him over his role in the King's marriage to Ann Boleyn..making Mary illegitimate...he should have known this as well...
I was confusing him with Thomas Cromwell, as I think others are in the chat.
Thomas Cranmer got exactly what he deserved! First he betrayed his vows as a Catholic priest. Since this was the Reformation, we'll give him a pass on that. Then he threw Anne Boleyn under the bus when she fell out of favor with Henry VIII, even though Cranmer owed his position as Archbishop of Canterbury to the Boleyn's. In fact, Cranmer played instrumental role in Anne Boleyn's final fate. Cranmer also encouraged Edward VI to disinherit Mary and Elizabeth and supported the illegitimate claim of Lady Jane Grey. After Queen Mary restored England to the One True Faith, Thomas Cranmer renounced Protestantism and declared himself a Catholic. However, Cranmer did not fool good and wise Queen Mary, who saw him for what he was and had him justifiably burnt at the stake. I used to work in Oxford and often passed the place where the Three Bind Mice were executed, regretting that I couldn't witness the events in person. As foul as Hell is, it's worse with Thomas Cranmer there!
Crazy times.
I thought Thomas Moore was the Archbishop during Henry 8th's reign
No, he was Lord High Chancellor, and just refused to go along with Henry's divorce thing. He was subsequently made a Catholic saint, but he was never the archbishop.
Like politics, you cant change religions to save yourself...Your past will always be your downfall.
Today.............past social media posts..............shiver.