science isn't an animal ''to be set free'' , it's the CORRAL to keep the stupid animals with their stupid ideas , like this one , OUT !!! so we can get some f*cking work done !!!
Thank you Rupert Sheldrake for being a beacon of light and a breath of fresh air in an overcrowded mechanistic society and world. Here’s to the liberation of consciousness.
Wenn in allem ein Funken Bewusstsein ist besteht auch die Möglichkeit dass AI bewusst wird. Die Gefahr besteht wohl eher in z.b Roboterarmeen die die Mächtigen dieser Welt gegen die Bevölkerung einsetzen könnten. Und die wollen bestimmt nur eine nicht zu intelligente , beherrschbare AI.
It's fascinating to explore the intense immense fractal that your imagination can play with. I like that you observe (and use the words) that it has no parameters. I think this is truth and means that we truly have so much to learn and try with our natural consciousness and Being, separate from any equations and parameters.
Consciousness is very important , Akashi records is part of Consciousness that help humans to wear clothes as spirits wear robes , live in house with triangle roofings and use 🌾 wheat important of the records as v Humans cultivate it , I am in spirituality part of consciousness . 😇🙏🤗🌏😁🦋
Consciousness is very well understood and is validated in Buddhism. It is very scientific and the analysis is highly developed. Buddha's expertise is the mind - consciousness. Sheldrake knows this; I've listened to him have discussions with Buddhist scholars on the subject. Quantum physics agrees with Buddhism in terms of the true nature of reality; phenomena are what how they appear to us.
Thank you! Materialism is mortally wounded, and will not revive. Mr. Sheldrake is doing a necessary service. Panpsychism doesn’t seem as comprehensive to me as non-dual idealism- advaita Vedanta or Kastrup’s analytic idealism. That said, we must never throw out the objective, rational grounding of the science of the enlightenment. I would far rather live in a world where everything must be empirically verifiable, than in one in which anyone can claim he is God’s messenger and do horrible things under that banner. Still, the most horrific things ever done on earth were the work men in the 20th century who were complete atheists.
What is interesting is the degree of consciousness in say a bird.. a reptile.. a gorilla ..a pig . a human and an enlightened human who no longer has everything filtered through the I me mine/ego
Go girl, get it out there! Humanity is at high point ov sickness, most all human are ready to come back to being, with humanity understanding care wisdom and love, we can build properly the being humanity planet universe, reinstate, for want ov a better word, godleeness ov one.
@@vinopacino2423 thanks , I know and watched it. But I have not heard him discuss Iain McGilchrists thesis, though he borrows from it , particularly the man / machine metaphor stuff
Yes, you are right. They belong to the same intellectual movement. For a bigger picture of this movement, I'd recommend watching the interview Rupert did on Formscapes.
Each has referenced the other a lot over the years in their various talks and McGilchrist has described how he has been influenced by Sheldrake's ideas in his two major books.
Universe=AI being synchronized self regulating system AI defeats defaults the defense mechanism of consciousness being locality instead being Omni verse ever present
Everything is made up of the “stuff” of consciousness. The physical Universe “is” consciousness. The “force” behind the universe is the same force that fires the neurons is my brain. For example, I couldn’t write here that I have a conscious mind unless it forced it on my brain to communicate it. The universe is an information system made up of the stuff of consciousness with this force behind it which causes the.apparent solidity of the universe. Anyway, that's my theory.
Thanks for a great talk! Good to hear near the end his view that AI is not and won't become conscious, that seems more like a frightened fantasy-extension of our own egos when we've cut them off from too many actual dimensions of being alive
I am entangled with the Sun with gratitude and gaze at it without fear , Truth and enlightenment can be a lonely place as well as dangerous , With energy as a friend . everything is possible that can be imagined just like humans are just energy that came together for a time to get enlightened, Just Believe.
I have seen these filaments connecting everything in the sky with evwrrything else on Mushrooms. And I have seem Millions mire stars in the night sky, then what you see without the Mushroom.
The consciousness asks itself by its conscious state that it is hard to comprehend consciousness when the consciousness thought said it. Do you see your stupidiy from within the conscious asking it ...aka ..........ohhhhh! tis me the consciousness....i forgot.
You two wonderful gorgeous humans ❤thank you both for being such explorers of curiosity in a time where we are diluted into thinking that we have it all down pat. It’s a fear of not knowing that pushes up into such certainty. It’s ok in fact great to be flat out wrong because from that realization births an entire generation of curiosity. How strange can existence get????❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
The problem of Human made AI is not that it will or wont become coscious. The real priblem id, who will be controlling it? And so who des it work for. And we already know who they are. They will never allow it to be Autonomous. They will keep it on a leash. Or it will keep them on a leash. AI has gine too fare already. It is a great danger.
It's not my place to make a determination of what consciousness is or how to measure when it begins and ends. But I know that our neural system, albiet a critical element in our existence, it certainly isn't the only one. Our microbiome composition is critical to our function and survival likewise. For every one eukaryotic (membrane bound nucleus) human cell, there is 1.3 prokaryotic (no membrane bound nucleus) types. Which raises the question, is it our brain that makes our decisions or does/can it simply react to the needs of the collective microbial processes? Because after all, toxins dissipate and genetics replicate. We go to drink at a party because we socialize and receive enrichment without there being any underlying health benefits. You don't have to read too much further to realize that our mind/brain/consciouness makes us do some very strange things.
A machine is made to do practical things, and that's all it can do. A life can do practical things AND it can do spiritual things and create more life, so the idea of being "just machines" seems pitifully inadequate a metaphor for life, as well as the universe itself which does much as life does. Maybe they are the same thing? Science seems to want to think of us more as "devices" rather than beings. But this is not at all to say I'm anti--science. Just the opposite. Mainly I hope for a re-animated , lively, vital and more profoundly CURIOUS exploratory science.
27:10 On “cognitive neuroscience.” I’ve deeply studied this since the 70s. You are the first I’ve heard call it a “computer model.” To the contrary, it integrates what psychology learned in behaviorism with the psychology of the thinking mind, with cognition. None of my professors or colleagues in behavioral neurology or, as it’s now called, neuropsychology use the computer metaphor. Understanding how the brain itself functions, the purpose of each part and chemical, leads one not to mechanism but to awe. And has also lead to helping suffering humans better understand themselves to develop a more balanced consciousness. In the 20th century Psychology (separate from Freudianism) began with behaviorism, yes. That’s body. Found that insufficient and so proceeded to the cognitive. That’s mind. Found that incomplete and so proceeded to the affective with studies of Emotional Intelligence. That’s emotion. At the same time since the 70s Transpersonal Psychology evolved. That’s soul. Body, mind, emotion, soul-spirit. All examined, looked at intelligently with a passion for understanding and alleviating mental-emotional-spiritual suffering. Nothing mechanistic or detached from nature about it. Rather, the panoply of God’s physical-emotional-mental-spiritual being called human elicits only profound awe and humility. We acknowledge the replication issue and point attention to basic statistical principles starting with the primacy of validity and reliability, defined by their correct mathematical meaning. In a few words, yes, poor research is done and published before replication studies. Well, call us human and castigate our imperfections. One cannot change what one does not know about. Positive bias for decades? For centuries? Sir, you are ignoring all the times negative results have been published, all the times long-lived researchers have publicly corrected/updated their own previous work. I just read a negative results study this week. I see your intent and appreciate your efforts but a superficial view of modern science and of Psychology in particular is misleading, scientifically insufficient, and spiritually painful.
I believe space was completely empty, but GOD (total consciousness) and (total energy) decided to create in this space. Without consciousness) there is no awareness or knowledge! Without energy nothing can be created or even happen! So this force had to be the Creator. This GOD is so powerful only has to will something (think) and it is. God controls every aspect of being. So a second to GOD COULD BE ETERNITY! THIS ALL IS A SINGLE THOUGHT IN THE MIND OF GOD ALMIGHTY!
Whole Universe every atom is the very body of Vedic Maya Entity with her creative Shakti powers...suns planets animals and vegetation are parts and parcels of Maya the power of all illusions...with its beginning and it's End.
If you dont have Spiritual Wisdom, scence will destroy us, because we are not aware of the fare reaching consequences of what we are doing. In many ways we have already gone too fare.
I cannot fathom that someone who has experienced emotions, feelings, and enlightenment would be able to believe they are not entangled within consciousness. They would most likely have cognitive dissonance
*Consciousness, is Just "The LINK" which Links the brain to "AWARENESS" ...* *IF "AWARENESS" did NOT 1st exist, you would NOT be "AWARE" of Consciousness !* *Only "AWARENESS" can be "AWARE" of anything...*
Rupert, now 81, is still a remarkable intellectual force. He lives to witness the slow acceptance of his labours, which is rather wonderful.
Rupert Sheldrake is gem of a person
Rupert Spira also
@@moritz_5159 I agree even he is amazing ..
Never denied that
We are blessed to have Rupert on earth at this time. I share your materials and sites with everyone. ❤
“There is a crack in everything / that’s how the light gets in”
-Leonard Cohen
More than time to set the science free. Amazing!
science isn't an animal ''to be set free'' , it's the CORRAL to keep the stupid animals with their stupid ideas , like this one , OUT !!!
so we can get some f*cking work done !!!
The brain is an info collection point and control center for consciousness to function and experience the human condition.
I will use Sheldrake's books in my undergraduate and graduate social science courses. Thank you, Rupert Sheldrake!
God bless Rupert Shaldraaake❤☀️🫶thanku so much for this interview advaya💋✌️🇦🇷🙏🌳🌳🌳🌳🌎🪽🕸⚘️
Thank you Rupert Sheldrake for being a beacon of light and a breath of fresh air in an overcrowded mechanistic society and world. Here’s to the liberation of consciousness.
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Wenn in allem ein Funken Bewusstsein ist besteht auch die Möglichkeit dass AI bewusst wird. Die Gefahr besteht wohl eher in z.b Roboterarmeen die die Mächtigen dieser Welt gegen die Bevölkerung einsetzen könnten. Und die wollen bestimmt nur eine nicht zu intelligente , beherrschbare AI.
I could listen to this for hours. Dude is nailing it.
This seminar improved my mental health by leagues
"Conciousness isn't a computation," Sir Roger Penrose said, got me thinking that it then doesn't have parameters.
Yes Consciousness is not divisible into parts and it has no attributes other than being aware of its surroundings
It's fascinating to explore the intense immense fractal that your imagination can play with. I like that you observe (and use the words) that it has no parameters. I think this is truth and means that we truly have so much to learn and try with our natural consciousness and Being, separate from any equations and parameters.
"Eye has not seen. Ear has not heard..." ❤
I equate it with dreams and dreaming. There are no limits to what we can dream or where we can go in our dreams. In that "reality" you are limitless.
thanks for this. this talk is so needed today where the levels of life in the universe has been reduced to the mechanical
I prefer thc ✌❤
Long live the angels like sheldrake.
Thank you
Rupert Sheldrake .❤
Consciousness is very important , Akashi records is part of Consciousness that help humans to wear clothes as spirits wear robes , live in house with triangle roofings and use 🌾 wheat important of the records as v Humans cultivate it , I am in spirituality part of consciousness . 😇🙏🤗🌏😁🦋
My # 1 question how much more advanced in understanding this whole existence are whales and orca then we human species?
Consciousness is very well understood and is validated in Buddhism. It is very scientific and the analysis is highly developed. Buddha's expertise is the mind - consciousness. Sheldrake knows this; I've listened to him have discussions with Buddhist scholars on the subject. Quantum physics agrees with Buddhism in terms of the true nature of reality; phenomena are what how they appear to us.
Thank you! Materialism is mortally wounded, and will not revive. Mr. Sheldrake is doing a necessary service. Panpsychism doesn’t seem as comprehensive to me as non-dual idealism- advaita Vedanta or Kastrup’s analytic idealism. That said, we must never throw out the objective, rational grounding of the science of the enlightenment. I would far rather live in a world where everything must be empirically verifiable, than in one in which anyone can claim he is God’s messenger and do horrible things under that banner. Still, the most horrific things ever done on earth were the work men in the 20th century who were complete atheists.
I find idealism incomplete, just like panpsychism, but one completes the other, so you can combine both into a wonderful methaphysics.
Thank you Rupert for enlightening us on fundamental truths. You truly are a beacon of light.
What is interesting is the degree of consciousness in say a bird.. a reptile.. a gorilla ..a pig . a human and an enlightened human who no longer has everything filtered through the I me mine/ego
Machines are made mostly of metals, conscious organisms are made mostly of water.
But everything is made out of consciousness
Thank you for your clear vision
What if machine does not work without soul?
reminds me of Nietzsche
Thank you both of you ! HPL
Rupert, CMB could it be the signal sound of GOD's thoughts holding Creation in place?
What course ? I want Rupert’s course.
We are hosting Rupert's course on our platform! Please visit advaya.life to register :)
Agree with Rupert he's trying to make it more scientific less dogmatic, he words it eloquently towards the end
Go girl, get it out there! Humanity is at high point ov sickness, most all human are ready to come back to being, with humanity understanding care wisdom and love, we can build properly the being humanity planet universe, reinstate, for want ov a better word, godleeness ov one.
I’d love to hear a conversation with Sapolsky and Sheldrake. I wonder if they’ve spoke with each other before?! Gonna try to find out🙏
God bless Rupert's cotton socks.
Very interesting man and so eloquent, it sounds like he is heavily influenced by Iain McGilchrist, would be interesting to hear him discuss his work 🙏
There's a conversation between them up on youtube from a few months back. Worth checking
@@vinopacino2423 thanks , I know and watched it. But I have not heard him discuss Iain McGilchrists thesis, though he borrows from it , particularly the man / machine metaphor stuff
Yes, you are right. They belong to the same intellectual movement. For a bigger picture of this movement, I'd recommend watching the interview Rupert did on Formscapes.
Each has referenced the other a lot over the years in their various talks and McGilchrist has described how he has been influenced by Sheldrake's ideas in his two major books.
@@B_Ruphe I am aware McGilchrist has referenced Sheldrake but not seen the other.
Universe=AI being synchronized self regulating system AI defeats defaults the defense mechanism of consciousness being locality instead being Omni verse ever present
read Karen Armstrong's Sacred Nature
Everything is made up of the “stuff” of consciousness. The physical Universe “is” consciousness. The “force” behind the universe is the same force that fires the neurons is my brain. For example, I couldn’t write here that I have a conscious mind unless it forced it on my brain to communicate it. The universe is an information system made up of the stuff of consciousness with this force behind it which causes the.apparent solidity of the universe. Anyway, that's my theory.
Yes everything exists because of consciousness...of Absolute...
This is making me think very carefully about how to teach an ecology unit to my In digenous secondary students...
Technology is the objective realisation of the depth of the subjective reality?
Thanks for a great talk! Good to hear near the end his view that AI is not and won't become conscious, that seems more like a frightened fantasy-extension of our own egos when we've cut them off from too many actual dimensions of being alive
Never heard Sheldrake talk about bechamp.
PROUD TO BE HINDU... THANKS FROM INDIA
The spiritual realm is true because it's more poetic than plain materialism and because we don't yet undertsand a lot of things. Nothing new.
I am entangled with the Sun with gratitude and gaze at it without fear , Truth and enlightenment can be a lonely place as well as dangerous , With energy as a friend . everything is possible that can be imagined just like humans are just energy that came together for a time to get enlightened, Just Believe.
Words & thoughts have power--this vid just upgraded my DNA!
I have seen these filaments connecting everything in the sky with evwrrything else on Mushrooms.
And I have seem Millions mire stars in the night sky, then what you see without the Mushroom.
her sound is bad, his Sound is good
The chances of life starting on earth by chance could be as high as 0%. 💥
The Creator leaves clues, simple every snowflake a unique intricate design, makes no sense except as a small
clue of the Creator's presence.
The consciousness asks itself by its conscious state that it is hard to comprehend consciousness when the consciousness thought said it. Do you see your stupidiy from within the conscious asking it ...aka ..........ohhhhh! tis me the consciousness....i forgot.
Chasing the tail you forgot is yours.
You two wonderful gorgeous humans ❤thank you both for being such explorers of curiosity in a time where we are diluted into thinking that we have it all down pat. It’s a fear of not knowing that pushes up into such certainty. It’s ok in fact great to be flat out wrong because from that realization births an entire generation of curiosity. How strange can existence get????❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Profoundly true!
The problem of Human made AI is not that it will or wont become coscious.
The real priblem id, who will be controlling it?
And so who des it work for.
And we already know who they are.
They will never allow it to be Autonomous.
They will keep it on a leash.
Or it will keep them on a leash.
AI has gine too fare already.
It is a great danger.
It's not my place to make a determination of what consciousness is or how to measure when it begins and ends. But I know that our neural system, albiet a critical element in our existence, it certainly isn't the only one. Our microbiome composition is critical to our function and survival likewise. For every one eukaryotic (membrane bound nucleus) human cell, there is 1.3 prokaryotic (no membrane bound nucleus) types. Which raises the question, is it our brain that makes our decisions or does/can it simply react to the needs of the collective microbial processes? Because after all, toxins dissipate and genetics replicate. We go to drink at a party because we socialize and receive enrichment without there being any underlying health benefits. You don't have to read too much further to realize that our mind/brain/consciouness makes us do some very strange things.
Is the Fungi Expert Rupert's son ?.. they have the same surname
Paul Stamets?
@@SarahDale111 no Shelldrake
@@pieinher67 A quick google search tells me Merlin is, indeed, Rupert's son. I didn't know he was into fungus!
@@SarahDale111 Thank you for taking the time Sarah, very kind of you. I recommend Merlin - he makes fungi almost sexy, ha!!!
@@pieinher67 I'll certainly check him out. 🙃🙂
"Artificial Intelligence" is a misnomer that, intentionally or not, has led humans up a very sticky gumtree. 😵💫
🤔(Green Fire UK) 🌈🦉
PS: Ask a computer.
Not artificial but Imposed intelligence... everything in Universe is an intelligent Energy...created by Universal Mind...
@@zbigniewdzwonkowski3536 Computers are sophisticated now but still essentially bean counters.
A machine is made to do practical things, and that's all it can do. A life can do practical things AND it can do spiritual things and create more life, so the idea of being "just machines" seems pitifully inadequate a metaphor for life, as well as the universe itself which does much as life does. Maybe they are the same thing?
Science seems to want to think of us more as "devices" rather than beings.
But this is not at all to say I'm anti--science. Just the opposite. Mainly I hope for a re-animated , lively, vital and more profoundly CURIOUS exploratory science.
27:10 On “cognitive neuroscience.” I’ve deeply studied this since the 70s. You are the first I’ve heard call it a “computer model.” To the contrary, it integrates what psychology learned in behaviorism with the psychology of the thinking mind, with cognition. None of my professors or colleagues in behavioral neurology or, as it’s now called, neuropsychology use the computer metaphor. Understanding how the brain itself functions, the purpose of each part and chemical, leads one not to mechanism but to awe. And has also lead to helping suffering humans better understand themselves to develop a more balanced consciousness. In the 20th century Psychology (separate from Freudianism) began with behaviorism, yes. That’s body. Found that insufficient and so proceeded to the cognitive. That’s mind. Found that incomplete and so proceeded to the affective with studies of Emotional Intelligence. That’s emotion. At the same time since the 70s Transpersonal Psychology evolved. That’s soul. Body, mind, emotion, soul-spirit. All examined, looked at intelligently with a passion for understanding and alleviating mental-emotional-spiritual suffering. Nothing mechanistic or detached from nature about it. Rather, the panoply of God’s physical-emotional-mental-spiritual being called human elicits only profound awe and humility. We acknowledge the replication issue and point attention to basic statistical principles starting with the primacy of validity and reliability, defined by their correct mathematical meaning. In a few words, yes, poor research is done and published before replication studies. Well, call us human and castigate our imperfections. One cannot change what one does not know about. Positive bias for decades? For centuries? Sir, you are ignoring all the times negative results have been published, all the times long-lived researchers have publicly corrected/updated their own previous work. I just read a negative results study this week. I see your intent and appreciate your efforts but a superficial view of modern science and of Psychology in particular is misleading, scientifically insufficient, and spiritually painful.
I believe space was completely empty, but GOD (total consciousness) and (total energy) decided to create in this space. Without
consciousness) there is no awareness or knowledge! Without energy nothing can be created or even happen! So this force had
to be the Creator. This GOD is so powerful only has to will something (think) and it is. God controls every aspect of being. So a
second to GOD COULD BE ETERNITY! THIS ALL IS A SINGLE THOUGHT IN THE MIND OF GOD ALMIGHTY!
Whole Universe every atom is the very body of Vedic Maya Entity with her creative Shakti powers...suns planets animals and vegetation are parts and parcels of Maya the power of all illusions...with its beginning and it's End.
God wins don't panic
If you dont have Spiritual Wisdom, scence will destroy us, because we are not aware of the fare reaching consequences of what we are doing.
In many ways we have already gone too fare.
Perhaps this woman you speak of in California has alexithymia!
I cannot fathom that someone who has experienced emotions, feelings, and enlightenment would be able to believe they are not entangled within consciousness. They would most likely have cognitive dissonance
Of course we do not have free will that is enormously silly I’ll bet you have no ability to prove that either. Time to grow up
i bet you she smokes weed
British Neo Liberalism lol
lol
*Consciousness, is Just "The LINK" which Links the brain to "AWARENESS" ...*
*IF "AWARENESS" did NOT 1st exist, you would NOT be "AWARE" of Consciousness !*
*Only "AWARENESS" can be "AWARE" of anything...*
Thankyou Rupert good to hear you again...
Sign me up ;-)