Just a tip for you always and i mean always disconnect the battery if possible else one slip will cost you the laptop as there is power still flowing on the main board.
Glad to help, seen some of your thermal replacements and noticed that this step wasn't done so thought i'd point it out, even when i did my GPU upgrade on MSI GT72-6QD the first thing i did was remove the battery. But a simple step for your Followers is simply Un screw and remove the back plate then promptly go to remove the battery before touching anything on the board. All will be fine after. But i do have a question with Liquid Metal does one have to repaste both the Heatsink Exchanger and the Die or can it just be pasted on the die?
William Rogers I found just placing it on the die is enough. I'm fairly new with liquid metal and I don't like the idea of a bunch of it migrating to other parts of the laptop..
Stephen, something that NOBODY on youtube did is compare the different pens you can use with this (lenovo's own vs bamboo ink vs matepen etc etc). I think a lot of us would watch that!!! Thanks, PM
Maybe the gpu temp increase wasn't Thermal Grizzly's fault. Maybe it increased because more of the cpu heat was being dumped into the shared cooling system, thus overwhelming the two tiny heatsinks. I would bet that conductonaut on the GPU would drop the temps, but they might still be higher than stock.
Good video, I would suggest making your graphs less deceiving. A difference of 6 degrees (5:47) should not result in the bar graph losing a quarter of its size, it'll make you look like you're being deceiving with your graph.
I really enjoyed this just because I'm learning about this new type of paste. Sounds a bit more detailed to apply but truly works better than the paste I've used in the past. Thanks Stephen!!!
Greg Simpson Thanks Greg! It is much harder to spread, I found that dragging its top layer so it wets the heat spreader surface was best, just light strokes otherwise it just balls up and moves around, lol.
gpu gets hotter because the LM at the cpu rise the heat absorption of the whole cooling unit thats normal even you do LM at the gpu too it will be the same;)
I need to replace my fan assembly, so this is incredibly helpful. I found somebody to do it inexpensively, $35 labor. But I wanted to check heat before and after. And even for that this is very helpful.
Found your channel because I wanted additional info on this laptop which was scarcely reviewed. Along with Lisa @ mobiletechreview, you did a pretty good job relaying info that others might have overlooked. Thanks! On an unrelated note, You look like an English Jurgen Klopp.
I just changed the paste with Grizzly Kryonaut for both processors and it's been wonderful. Thanks for the video to confirm how great it is to change the paste! Woulda been a shame to return such a good laptop.
U probably know this by now, but ill mention it for anyone curious. The gpu temps went up because they use the same heatsink. Because the cpu temp went down so much, the heat transferred to the heatsink, which at this point, can no longer take in more heat, and it does the opposite, which is why the gpu ends up warmer
Jerome Ley yes, I have mentioned many times on numerous videos that shared heat sink designs are poor. If you watch my Aorus x3 v7 review/repasting you can see clearly that it struggles to cope with the i7 7820hk cpu.
just now finding this. I have a yoga 720 without the graphics card and am getting an egpu soon. Unfortunately when I run anything under load, it immediately throttles, so I will be repasting very soon!! awesome video!!
OWNorDisown I have, but haven’t had much success. My thought is that I am using integrated graphics (limited to a couple games) for now. I was thinking this might be putting even more strain on the cpu since I don’t have a dedicated gpu.
Yes, it will do. You can undervolt the integrated GPU part too. Its a shame you cannot increase the fan speed. I'm going to do a video testing one of those graphite thermal pads...
Great video. I did find the music distracting when you're talking but otherwise I liked having it in there lol. Do you know anyone else with this machine? Hearing some mixed reviews on forums but for that price I think I should definitely check it out. I have the Thinkpad 460 and could use some extra juice for Maya and Zbrush. Love having pen input. Just wish this had a 32gb option as well...
iamshrimpcat thanks mate. Yes, I should have lowered the volume of the music more. A friend of mine did the music, so glad you liked it. A few of my viewers have it. One viewer said his hinges were not in line but mine are fine. Be prepared to cool it down though if you decide to enable turbo boost.. Cheers.
Hey just thought i would come back to this, received my 720 15" us model same as yours, had watched your videos before and was curious. After some minor experimenting ive found that my cpu runs cooler with the intel 630 graphics completely disabled making for a better gaming experience, so far running medium settings in world of tanks on 4k works fine as long as the laptop is sitting on a breathable surface, ive also found that it runs a bit cooler when using another keyboard and mouse with the keyboard facing down and the vents facing up, the screen being closer is nice as well!
Chunfucious good tips mate! I never thought about playing with the keyboard facing down, lol, but great idea. Did you disable the Intel GPu in device manager? I tried that on that Gigabyte P57xv7 and it became super sluggish, don't know why, or is there a different method to disable it?
OWNorDISOWN super funny, I actually disabled it, played three matches in world of tanks each on different settings and watched afterburner, It worked great and then I restarted the game and it's super sluggish, gonna do a bit more research!
Its interesting, the 1050 is dropping out every 10 seconds or so when not in game, like the integrated is trying to take over for regular desktop duties, I bet that 630 is a CPU resource hog!
Your assumption that the GPU temps go up because of the thermal paste is not quite right. As the heatsink can remove a lot more heat from the CPU with the conductonaut, all of it gets transported over the GPU to the fans and this way the heat is transfered to the GPU which gets hotter. This effect most likely would have been even worse with Conductonaut on the GPU.
Can't see in the video, after you remove the original thermal paste: Are the heat sinks copper or aluminum? I see that there is an aluminum block surrounding the pipes, but what is the material touching the chips?
I just looked up the bimetallic corrosion possibility of copper and aluminum (www.npl.co.uk/upload/pdf/bimetallic_20071105114556.pdf) . I think it is unlikely they would have both metals touching each other in a paste situation as according to the chart they have a good risk of corrosion..Thats if I am reading it correctly..
The reason I asked is: I took apart and re-pasted an older laptop this weekend and the heat sink surface touching the chip was Aluminum, so I was glad that I wasn't planing to use the CLU compound, just regular carbon based paste. So looking at your video today, reminded me of that, and I was curious if in your case you made sure that the heat sink was copper before you applied the CLU compound.
Denis Males I gave it a good hard look. I'm going to check it over and see if there was any reaction. You can test it too by using vinegar and salt water I believe too..
It would be interesting to see this test again with the GPU having the same thermal paste. since the heat pipes are shared that may help reduce CPU temps just a little more.
Good video! Thoroughly enjoyed and very surprised to see the GPU temp rise when you repasted. I wonder if it still would have raised with the Thermal Grizzly.
Thanks for the review again. I am returning a second XPS 15 9560 (if it's not coil whine, it's backlight bleeding, etc. etc. etc.). Now I am officially done with Dell and the XPS line and I'm looking out for a new machine again. This WAS on the list, but from what I understand the thermals suck. Does it get hot with heavy gaming only ? What about normal (heavy, but non gaming) use ?
Lex Gabrees in my handbrake test with turbo boost disabled it went up to 73 degrees which is great. Activating turbo boost with no undervolt 86 degrees, undervolt it dropped to 80. If you leave it running at max 2.8 ghz it is fine but want to allow it to boost to 3.8 you'll need that undervolt.
thanks a lot for the video. What are the conditions of th heatsink on the liquid metal side cpu? I know it is corrosive on alumin not copper but I feel still a bit uncomfortable with the idea of using it on my yoga 720 15" (even if I' m in love with t drops it's capable of) because of the black surface around the copper part which seems to cover the rest allumium portion of the heatsink. If that black painted frame extends on the copper contact site I'm for sure more relaxed. I would't want to risk and mess up with the aluminium surroundings Also it is not clear to me how the liquid metal behaves (how much aggressive is ) over the long term on the core die. Does it leave any evident signs (even slight compared with the traditinal solutions?) - Repasting with liquid metal would void the warranty ? -Instead of using electrical tape wouldn't it be even better to use thermalpads with a proper thikness as protection and a possible further slight improvement on the overall heat dissipation capacity? - About thermalpads. Someone pointed out, given you are on the way opening it up, to change the factory thermal pads as well with something of higher performances. What are your opinions about, and in case what brand of Thermal pad would you recommend? - About thermalpads the second. =) premising I haven't opened my 720 yet, looking at disassebling picture and videos made me wonder if applinyg some other thermal pads between the metal bottom panel and the heatpipes (given the ,apperent at least, little room inbetween, could be an easy and cheap way to improve the passive heat dissipation. What are your toughts about? Out of the warranty period or with a 2nd heatpipe available would be terribly satisfying messing around soldering some extra heatpipes and find out an elegant custom solution to better take advantage of the untapped passive dissipation capacity the bottom metal panel could offer.
Hi Kevin, I like your thinking about putting pads between the heat pipes and the bottom panel - interesting idea ! People have recommended Fujipoly pads so they may be worth a try. I recently looked at the condition of the liquid metal on the heat sink and it wasn't crusty which I was half expecting to see. There was some discolouration on the heatsink though. Someone recommended to use Kapton tape instead: www.amazon.com/Heat-Temperature-Resistant-Adhesive-Electric/dp/B00W3FAFP0/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1518057703&sr=8-4&keywords=kapton+tape&dpID=41remhS2vSL&preST=_SX342_QL70_&dpSrc=srch My main advice on doing this is to use as little as possible liquid metal to make sure it doesn't run onto the pcb. Perhaps start with some good regular paste first like Gelid GC Extreme and see what results you get. I did a test on my Sager NP 9873 and there wasn't much between them. Here is that video: ruclips.net/video/1u_CXoQzNNg/видео.html
yeah Hope it will be a good idea! I'll let you know guys in case I proceed with the experiment maybe after some prior calculation and estimates. Problem is the heatpipes seem to be isoleted with that black painting wich of course has to be scratched away and I'm worried that interferes with the warranty validity. Undervolting helped a lot but obviously is not enough!! (mine seems to stay preatty stable at -150 mV on cpu core, gpu, cache, system agent and analog I/O but I have to test it out further more. I don't have much time available with university. I' ve noticed, if I'm not wrong, the fast ramping up of the termperatures decrese a lot the undervolting headroom). Onother idea to evaluate are the relatively new 1 mm thick sheet heatpipes used on new smartphone but I haven't figured out yet their actual performance order of magnitude. Anyway I want that metal bottom panel to be used as a passive heatsink!!=D I love the 720 15" but saying the thermal performances are bad is an euphemism really! A little bit more of engineering would have been enough to place some more more powerful heatpipes dear Lenovo!
Tell you what - if you do embark on this venture I would love to interview you and show your work in a video if you up for it. I think it is a great idea and love the creativity :)
JooJoo Flop it is amazing stuff, I've been reading up on it though and seemingly you even get a reaction with copper so I think it needs some maintenance to keep at its best..
yeah i read the same thing.. they said every 3 to 6 months you will need to do it again to keep it at its best. but with the Alienware and most laptops its pretty easy to get in. However not so the razer blade pro!
OWNorDISOWN Thank you sir. already halfway to the next 1000 mark on subscribers! I told you, it's going to snowball. It feels like 3000 subscribers was only yesterday!
Lol Nope I know, slowly getting there. Might try some advertising this weekend.. I'll be a my 1 year anniversary July 13th. Hoping to be at 5000 subs then!
Hello and thanks for this video. I want to buy this computer as a mobile and web developer and designer I am but I'm scary about the scratched tape you got. Do you recommend to use something like a cover to protect it of that? But might be a problem to rotate it to 360 position. I want to buy the FHD model + the nvidia, can it use an external monitor to 4K display?
Ruylo Thanks for watching it 😀 I purchased a nice case www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XYVH96B/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1518008425&sr=8-6&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=lenovo+yoga+720+15+case&dpPl=1&dpID=51LgjpDdeQL&ref=plSrch Yes, you can get a dongle adapter that fits in tbe usb c port to hook up 4k 😀
OWNorDISOWN Tech Decisions Made Easy Thanks for the answer but I'm referring a cover or something like that: m.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-mCover-Hard-Case-for-NEW-15-6-Lenovo-Yoga-720-15-2-in-1-Ultrabook-Laptop-/232525889142?_mwBanner=1
That does look like a good solution. I checked Amazon is the US and they sell it but many people say it doesn't fit...www.amazon.com/mCover-Shell-Lenovo-laptop-Black/dp/B076HB7F3M#customerReviews
Thanks. This one fits most of it, the screen is actually 350mm long and 205mm high but that includes the black bezels which the screen covers www.amazon.com/COOSKIN-15-6-inch-Anti-glare-Protector-Dispaly/dp/B00D84GA40/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_147_bs_tr_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=Y8W7FP7NRDVJ7Q7TBB3E
Cherubino Serafino I've just installed some games so it will be at least a week, probably not this weekend but next. If I can get it done sooner I will. My next video will be the P57x.
Alright, I tried it on my yoga 720 and I think I did it wrong it something because nothing changed from what I can tell as far as temps and frame rates go. I have it flatline at about 1800mhz at 925mv.
You won't see any increase in FPS unless it is boosting higher. Have you tried overclocking it? As far as temperature goes my GTX 1050 didn't get hot. BF1 is the hottest at 89 degrees and that is overclocked What are your temps?
I haven't tried over clocking it because I'm fairly new to this. This is my first laptop with a dedicated graphic card. Recently undervolted the CPU -0.140 and I'll reach max temps when using the xtu stress test at about 78c GPU 70-75c indoors. Now I am only getting my temperatures from monitoring xtu's min/max/avg stats. If you have any suggestions I'm all for it
Yes, I was glad I actually used two different pastes. I gave the heat sink a good luck and thought it was copper, I need to reopen it up and make sure but nonetheless it still works okay and cooler, lol !
So you leave the electrical tape on? Never used LM, saw a couple vids but like they used 1/4 as ;much as you did and lightly brushed it out. I kinda wanna try it but would prob do it to like my lil pc in case I screw up lol!
bigbenisdaman Yeh, I left it on as it has a max temperature limit of 105 degrees C and I am paranoid it leaks out and shorts out something. This was only my second LM one. My Aorus x3 v7 seems to have survived, lol. It is very hard to spread, I found that using a que tip and lightly brushing the top surface the best so it gradually wets the surface. Takes some practice.. Go for it!
Ah, i was just thinking like electric tape don't really hold well over time but it's prob fine. And yea, i'd be paranoid it would leak lol! If i can get the issues with my GL 502 vs i might do it on it after I try on lil pc and main pc, for practice and all.
Hello Stephen, Thankyou for the video, i unplugged my lenovo flex 14 battery and plugged it back in, now it wouldn't charge at all, when i unplug the battery again the laptop recognised power is connected, but when battery is plugged in then it doesn't recognise battery nor charger... do you think this is an software or hardware problem? thankyou
my yoga 720 w/ i5 7300hq gtx1050 gets turbo boost from 2.5 to 3.1 @ 75C playing newest games... theres a program throttlestop you can unlock turboboost in heavy/gaming loads... just my 5 cents.
Are you going to re-upload a re-re-pasting video soon? Just bought mine a few days ago. Also, will Lenovo release a bios update that could enable increased fan speed you think?
I actually did one a while ago. It would be nice if they did allow us to change the fan speed, they should do so but probably won't as they want to be in full control of it I guess. Here is my video on it being repasted: ruclips.net/video/F0nyLA-65sU/видео.html
Prestonious I'm afraid my yoga 720 is broken. I took it apart to see how the liquid metal was and I think I must have bent the motherboard when lifting the heat sinks off as it wouldn't boot afterwards. It's going in for repairs.
OWNorDISOWN Tech Decisions Made Easy dang sorry to hear about that. I went ahead and undervolted mine like you suggested in one of your videos. Approx - 113mv on the core, cache and igpu. It's stable. However I havent tested to see if there is any difference in performance although I feel I'm getting slightly better battery life. One thing I did notice is that I can't use after burner to undervolt the 1050. Any suggestions?
OWNorDISOWN Tech Decisions Made Easy I also use it in tent mode to game. Ir improves the air flow And helps with the temps. But is it ok to game with temps around 80 degrees?
Hey there 1 Question: Is it possible to turn off the hyperthreading for this Lenovo maschine? (because of Meltdown & spectre) Also it helps to drop the temp a little.
No I don't think so. I don't recall seeing the option in the BIOS and I don't have it any more., but you can disable turbo boost or even better just reduce the clock rate
hello mr exklim realy i like your dissect about the devices and i want your experince to advice me. iam a graphic designer and interesting to get this device yoga 720 15 core i7 with dedicated invidea gtx but not the 4k cause it have a big issue with thick blk line in top ... so do u recommend this model for work with adobe illustrator and premier
Mohammed Abdulaziz hi Mohammad, thanks , glad you like my videos. Yes, I think it will serve you very well. Six core CPUs will be coming out soon, perhaps next month and that may help in your rendering. I haven't seen any models announced yet but that is what Gigabyte told me .
If you apply an undervolt you should be fine :) I wouldn't recommend disabling Turbo boost but you can also use Throttlestop to alter the multipliers down a bit if need be. Start with the undervolt and see how you get on :)
Lisa from mobile tech review, in her yoga720 review," said that 16GB RAM (the one she was using) was too thick to fit in the RAM slot. So I have been researching and reading blogs to see if anyone has successfully added 16GB RAM to have total of 24GB RAM. But I haven't found any yet. Have you found any Sucess OWNorDisown ? If you do please let us know of the particular RAM you used.
Hey Stephen me and a lot of other people have an issue with lap top. After a bit of use a black line appears located near the top of the screen. Nothing to visable but definetly a hardware defect. Do you have the same problem or heard about it? Love the laptop but im afraid I might have to return it. Wish you the best!
DrizzzDzn hey mate, thanks for the wishes! I have heard of the issue. Another subscriber had it and he told me that it was just with the 4k panel and Best Buy had stopped selling it. It definitely was a hardware issue. I must have been lucky as mine is fine.. If you have it then I woukd definitely have it replaced under warranty, or if you can return it to the store for a replacement. It's such a shame as it is a great laptop 😢
Exaclty my thoughts! I have it under an extended warranty actually but since I can still return mine for a new one that's what I'll do. I do hope I dont have to say goodbye to this powerhouse of a laptop but only time will tell. Also thank you for the quick response and let me tell you you have won a new subscriber! :)
Hello mate, i broke my screw on my yoga 720. Do you know where i can buy new one that fits in? And do you think it will be possible to use superglue and a screwdriver to get enough grip to screw it out? :/
Perhaps Lenovo might have spare ones? I would give you mine since it doesn't go all the way in, I'm going to try cutting mine in half, lol. You could try superglue, depends how tight it is in I guess. So it just sheared inside the case?
I finally made it. As you said, I dug my own score. A few days ago I saw on the lenovo support site spare parts like the underbody. Now I find only 5-6 spare parts. Where did they all go? I really want to buy a new underbody(case) because i scratched it with the screw driver. But cant find any :/
Nice video over there my friend :) . It's recommended to apply LM to the contact area on the heatsink too to fill up the imperfections in the copper. Also, looks like you need a little bit more paste on the GPU (unless that aeronaut is just bad lol). Keep it up man.
Carlos Valls Thanks Carlos! I was worried about it spreading all over the place if I put too much on but I am a liquid metal newbie so thanks for the tip, I'll do that next time!
Boii for me it has to be the Lenovo as I use the pen a lot. If you are not using the pen nor need the 2-1 it may depend on price but the xps cpu is clocked corrupt of the box so no disabling turbo boost so that is a big plus for me..
Oh wow, ok, that makes sense why you would chose the Lenovo. What do you mean by clocked corrupt? I have a dell XPS 15 and never heard of that issue. Do you talk about that in one of your videos?
Boii sorry, auto spelling on my phone. I was typing on one hand as I walked the dog! It meant to say that the Lenovo disables turbo boost so in cpu work you get a 30% performance hit unless you enable it then you are faced with temperature issues. The XPS 15 has turbo boost enabled so it will be faster out of the box. I haven't tried one to see how hot it gets though. I use the pen all the time. To be honest I do prefer my Surface Book as it is so small and light. Hope that helps!
Oh lol... That definitely helps. My XPS 15 used to thermal throttle a lot last year, but I undervolted and re-pasted it and that left some thermal room for me to overclock the 960m buy 135MHz on the core and 700MHz on the memory.
OWNorDISOWN hey man did you get a chance to see this laptop I think it's new gt73 with non overlock CPU www.microcenter.com/product/479019/GT73VR_TITAN_PRO-693_173_Gaming_Laptop_Computer_-_Black
Hey Tyler, o I hadn't seen that model ! Think I should review it? I've returned two to Microcenter but I can get my wife to buy it perhaps in a few weeks..
OWNorDISOWN yes that would be fantastic if you could review it and compare it to the one with overclk CPU, odd enough this model is only at micro center!
Is the heat pipe copper or aluminum? I heard that there you cant put metal on aluminum. Is there any chance of metal leaking? I know it might be stupid question but did you remove tape after applying paste? Thx for helping
I took it apart some 9 months afterwards, there was no corrosion so I suspect it was copper. I put tape around the die but I had put too much LM on and a bit did leak out. I recommend putting some a foam barrier around it and certainly less than I applied. My laptop was still working but don't have it anymore.
I wouldn't have thought so. If you saw my full review Lenovo disabled turbo boost so it would run at about 1000 MHz less. They did this because they knew it was hot. Most people wouldn't know . Perhaps the videos you saw still had it disabled....
I don't have any experience with liquid metal & am hesitant to try it out on a laptop. Do you think it would be worth re-pasting the 720 with Kryonaut?
I have an alienware 15r3 i7-7700HQ with gtx 1070 i need to repaste it since the temps go up 97 Celsius, is liquid metal safe after months on cpu and gpu?
juniora aburto After 7 months I opened up my yoga 720 and it was still good, but it will end up oxidizing and even reacting with the copper. They say to redo it every 6 months. Dont put much on, I put you much on here really. Good luck!
Lex Gabrees yes, that is very true but if you put some work into it, leave it without turbo boost or restrict the boost amount it is okay. I appreciate the majority will leave it at stock.
OWNorDISOWN Tech Decisions Made Easy well ... I understand your point .. but it's ridiculous to not be able to use turbo boost normally ... pretty funny actually...
Yes, it is crazy. What I can't figure out is Intel keeps bringing out refreshed CPUs with less power yet we are still being thermally restrained. The best design yet that I have seen was the Asus Zephyrus.
I think they feel that the average user will not notice these flaws, and that's enough for them to keep on going the way they do. We saw it happen with Dell and the XPS and probably more brands as well. The truth is, that they make people pay a certain amount of money for something that is flawed, while they know it. They are just misleading and fooling customers ... That's what it comes down to in the end.
I agree totally. Take this new XPS 13 it runs super hot and I cannot see this famous aerogel ... the i7 is a complete waste as it will never boost to 4 Ghz but people will pay extra thinking it will. It's my duty to tell them :)
I got the Alienware 17 R4 CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7820HK CPU @ 2.90GHz (2903.98 MHz) Memory: 16257 MB OS Version: Microsoft Windows 10 64-bit (Build 15063) Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 1080/PCIe/SSE2 far as i been testing this laptop is solid machine does run warm not like my Apple MacBook Pro 17 inch back in 2008 that ran 214 degrees F
Ruite Xu as far as I know only the MSI GT73VR and some Clevo models have mxm graphics cards that can be replaced. Can the Lenovo yoga 720 now be configured with a 1050ti? Are you sure you aren't thinking of the 1050 4GB version?
I don't believe so. make sure you only put a small amount of LM on it. I would actually recommend sticking with something like Gelid GC Extreme. I did some testing and it performed at same level as the liquid metal plus there is less risk of short circuiting your motherboard.
Does anyone know of manual or photos on removing the USB from this unit? It's gotten badly damaged physically (don't ask). It's unusual enough that I haven't found a manual or photos that show removing & replacing it. Lenovo tech thinks it probably screwed to main board. One on side w/power button on Yoga 720-151KB 80x7 (HD screen) Loved this video on heat sinking, so hoping someone passing by can help?
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I thought I posted a thank you for years ago but apparently not. I hadn't found anything remotely that exact to what I needed when I searched.
could do without the music? in the background...very distracting and muffles your voice. also the camera is so far away from what your actually doing it's hard to actually see what's going on.
Brush Runner Thanks mate! I try and be as thorough as possible and give people enough info so they can make a good decision on their purchase. These things aren't cheap. Cheers
Michael Lee can't do any harm. The tape used needs to be thin, some use kapton tape. I like the idea of the conformal coating around the area too, last thing you want is the liquid metal shorting anything out on the motherboard.
Michael Lee after 7 months my heatsink was not corroded, it was discoloured, like a stain. It wasn't brittle like you would get with aluminum so I suspect it is copper
I did- i included those results in the video...It's a tough one to cool down, lol. My conclusion stands - for gaming disable turbo boost, undervolt and ideally repaste with liquid metal and game in a refrigerator :)
i was thinking with the money i give + a lil more u could get the new slim asus notebook tell me if u gonna sell it could u think a lil quickly btw thanks
Bit disappointing on the GPU eh! I'd like to see results with the liquid metal on the GPU as you'd think it would bring the CPU down even more. Maybe post a short update video when you get hold of some more!
why does the stupid company didn't use good paste at first place, can ramp up their performance and quality hence not costing much for these type of thing. damned piece of shit rock mind. Good video, perhaps all those 1080 graphic and power booster new laptop need to repaste for every customer.. so what for pay them so much $$$ for their laptop
Thanks, glad you found it useful ! What I was pissed about was that they disabled turbo boost to keep it cool. Very sneaky. They would have been better to have used better paste, increase fan speed a bit and undervolt perhaps..
Just a tip for you always and i mean always disconnect the battery if possible else one slip will cost you the laptop as there is power still flowing on the main board.
William Rogers yes indeed, thanks for mentioning that. I pinned your comment.
Glad to help, seen some of your thermal replacements and noticed that this step wasn't done so thought i'd point it out, even when i did my GPU upgrade on MSI GT72-6QD the first thing i did was remove the battery. But a simple step for your Followers is simply Un screw and remove the back plate then promptly go to remove the battery before touching anything on the board. All will be fine after. But i do have a question with Liquid Metal does one have to repaste both the Heatsink Exchanger and the Die or can it just be pasted on the die?
William Rogers I found just placing it on the die is enough. I'm fairly new with liquid metal and I don't like the idea of a bunch of it migrating to other parts of the laptop..
Stephen, something that NOBODY on youtube did is compare the different pens you can use with this (lenovo's own vs bamboo ink vs matepen etc etc). I think a lot of us would watch that!!! Thanks, PM
Petrut Marin that is a great idea! I will do that. Appreciate the tip 😀
OWNorDISOWN can't wait - it's gooonna be good!!!
I have bought the Bamboo Pen already, will buy the matepen next :)
Maybe the gpu temp increase wasn't Thermal Grizzly's fault. Maybe it increased because more of the cpu heat was being dumped into the shared cooling system, thus overwhelming the two tiny heatsinks. I would bet that conductonaut on the GPU would drop the temps, but they might still be higher than stock.
Yes, you are probably right Noah. Perhaps I'll try that at some point.
Good video, I would suggest making your graphs less deceiving. A difference of 6 degrees (5:47) should not result in the bar graph losing a quarter of its size, it'll make you look like you're being deceiving with your graph.
I really enjoyed this just because I'm learning about this new type of paste. Sounds a bit more detailed to apply but truly works better than the paste I've used in the past. Thanks Stephen!!!
Greg Simpson Thanks Greg! It is much harder to spread, I found that dragging its top layer so it wets the heat spreader surface was best, just light strokes otherwise it just balls up and moves around, lol.
gpu gets hotter because the LM at the cpu rise the heat absorption of the whole cooling unit thats normal even you do LM at the gpu too it will be the same;)
Great technical quality videos! Hope you get 1m subscribers. I like your comparison between acer spin 5 and yoga 720
alsolh Thanks ! Really appreciate that 😀 I hope so too, plenty more in the works so stay tuned!
I need to replace my fan assembly, so this is incredibly helpful. I found somebody to do it inexpensively, $35 labor. But I wanted to check heat before and after. And even for that this is very helpful.
Found your channel because I wanted additional info on this laptop which was scarcely reviewed. Along with Lisa @ mobiletechreview, you did a pretty good job relaying info that others might have overlooked. Thanks!
On an unrelated note, You look like an English Jurgen Klopp.
Glad you found my channel ! Thanks for watching it and thanks for the compliment, Jurgen did a great job this year :) Cheers.
sir u there?
I used cool labs liquid metal on my 730 15 inch. It worked so well. No more thermal throttling.
thanks for this video, helped me repaste my own laptop and it's running SO MUCH better now
I just changed the paste with Grizzly Kryonaut for both processors and it's been wonderful. Thanks for the video to confirm how great it is to change the paste! Woulda been a shame to return such a good laptop.
Paul Pham great! Glad it helped 😀
U probably know this by now, but ill mention it for anyone curious.
The gpu temps went up because they use the same heatsink. Because the cpu temp went down so much, the heat transferred to the heatsink, which at this point, can no longer take in more heat, and it does the opposite, which is why the gpu ends up warmer
Jerome Ley yes, I have mentioned many times on numerous videos that shared heat sink designs are poor. If you watch my Aorus x3 v7 review/repasting you can see clearly that it struggles to cope with the i7 7820hk cpu.
just now finding this. I have a yoga 720 without the graphics card and am getting an egpu soon. Unfortunately when I run anything under load, it immediately throttles, so I will be repasting very soon!! awesome video!!
Noah Leake Thanks ! If you do liquid metal make sure to use less than I did. I put on too much really . Good luck ! Have you tried undervolting ?
OWNorDisown I have, but haven’t had much success. My thought is that I am using integrated graphics (limited to a couple games) for now. I was thinking this might be putting even more strain on the cpu since I don’t have a dedicated gpu.
Yes, it will do. You can undervolt the integrated GPU part too. Its a shame you cannot increase the fan speed. I'm going to do a video testing one of those graphite thermal pads...
use Gelid GC Extreme instead of metal
Great video. I did find the music distracting when you're talking but otherwise I liked having it in there lol. Do you know anyone else with this machine? Hearing some mixed reviews on forums but for that price I think I should definitely check it out. I have the Thinkpad 460 and could use some extra juice for Maya and Zbrush. Love having pen input. Just wish this had a 32gb option as well...
iamshrimpcat thanks mate. Yes, I should have lowered the volume of the music more. A friend of mine did the music, so glad you liked it. A few of my viewers have it. One viewer said his hinges were not in line but mine are fine. Be prepared to cool it down though if you decide to enable turbo boost.. Cheers.
Hey just thought i would come back to this, received my 720 15" us model same as yours, had watched your videos before and was curious.
After some minor experimenting ive found that my cpu runs cooler with the intel 630 graphics completely disabled making for a better gaming experience, so far running medium settings in world of tanks on 4k works fine as long as the laptop is sitting on a breathable surface, ive also found that it runs a bit cooler when using another keyboard and mouse with the keyboard facing down and the vents facing up, the screen being closer is nice as well!
Chunfucious good tips mate! I never thought about playing with the keyboard facing down, lol, but great idea. Did you disable the Intel GPu in device manager? I tried that on that Gigabyte P57xv7 and it became super sluggish, don't know why, or is there a different method to disable it?
OWNorDISOWN super funny, I actually disabled it, played three matches in world of tanks each on different settings and watched afterburner, It worked great and then I restarted the game and it's super sluggish, gonna do a bit more research!
Its interesting, the 1050 is dropping out every 10 seconds or so when not in game, like the integrated is trying to take over for regular desktop duties, I bet that 630 is a CPU resource hog!
Chunfucious lol, let me know what you find out 😊
Your assumption that the GPU temps go up because of the thermal paste is not quite right. As the heatsink can remove a lot more heat from the CPU with the conductonaut, all of it gets transported over the GPU to the fans and this way the heat is transfered to the GPU which gets hotter. This effect most likely would have been even worse with Conductonaut on the GPU.
Can't see in the video, after you remove the original thermal paste: Are the heat sinks copper or aluminum? I see that there is an aluminum block surrounding the pipes, but what is the material touching the chips?
Its the same black coated material as the heat pipes, well, that is what I assumed it to be ! Hopefully it is !
I just looked up the bimetallic corrosion possibility of copper and aluminum (www.npl.co.uk/upload/pdf/bimetallic_20071105114556.pdf) . I think it is unlikely they would have both metals touching each other in a paste situation as according to the chart they have a good risk of corrosion..Thats if I am reading it correctly..
I can take apart this weekend to double check.
The reason I asked is: I took apart and re-pasted an older laptop this weekend and the heat sink surface touching the chip was Aluminum, so I was glad that I wasn't planing to use the CLU compound, just regular carbon based paste. So looking at your video today, reminded me of that, and I was curious if in your case you made sure that the heat sink was copper before you applied the CLU compound.
Denis Males I gave it a good hard look. I'm going to check it over and see if there was any reaction. You can test it too by using vinegar and salt water I believe too..
It would be interesting to see this test again with the GPU having the same thermal paste. since the heat pipes are shared that may help reduce CPU temps just a little more.
yes, I do want to open it up and see what I can do...
Good video! Thoroughly enjoyed and very surprised to see the GPU temp rise when you repasted. I wonder if it still would have raised with the Thermal Grizzly.
Thanks JJ. I might take some time to settle down perhaps, I was a little disappointed but that liquid metal is amazing stuff..
Thanks for the review again. I am returning a second XPS 15 9560 (if it's not coil whine, it's backlight bleeding, etc. etc. etc.). Now I am officially done with Dell and the XPS line and I'm looking out for a new machine again. This WAS on the list, but from what I understand the thermals suck. Does it get hot with heavy gaming only ? What about normal (heavy, but non gaming) use ?
Lex Gabrees in my handbrake test with turbo boost disabled it went up to 73 degrees which is great. Activating turbo boost with no undervolt 86 degrees, undervolt it dropped to 80. If you leave it running at max 2.8 ghz it is fine but want to allow it to boost to 3.8 you'll need that undervolt.
thanks a lot for the video. What are the conditions of th heatsink on the liquid metal side cpu? I know it is corrosive on alumin not copper but I feel still a bit uncomfortable with the idea of using it on my yoga 720 15" (even if I' m in love with t drops it's capable of) because of the black surface around the copper part which seems to cover the rest allumium portion of the heatsink. If that black painted frame extends on the copper contact site I'm for sure more relaxed. I would't want to risk and mess up with the aluminium surroundings
Also it is not clear to me how the liquid metal behaves (how much aggressive is ) over the long term on the core die. Does it leave any evident signs (even slight compared with the traditinal solutions?)
- Repasting with liquid metal would void the warranty ?
-Instead of using electrical tape wouldn't it be even better to use thermalpads with a proper thikness as protection and a possible further slight improvement on the overall heat dissipation capacity?
- About thermalpads. Someone pointed out, given you are on the way opening it up, to change the factory thermal pads as well with something of higher performances. What are your opinions about, and in case what brand of Thermal pad would you recommend?
- About thermalpads the second. =) premising I haven't opened my 720 yet, looking at disassebling picture and videos made me wonder if applinyg some other thermal pads between the metal bottom panel and the heatpipes (given the ,apperent at least, little room inbetween, could be an easy and cheap way to improve the passive heat dissipation. What are your toughts about?
Out of the warranty period or with a 2nd heatpipe available would be terribly satisfying messing around soldering some extra heatpipes and find out an elegant custom solution to better take advantage of the untapped passive dissipation capacity the bottom metal panel could offer.
Hi Kevin, I like your thinking about putting pads between the heat pipes and the bottom panel - interesting idea !
People have recommended Fujipoly pads so they may be worth a try.
I recently looked at the condition of the liquid metal on the heat sink and it wasn't crusty which I was half expecting to see. There was some discolouration on the heatsink though.
Someone recommended to use Kapton tape instead:
www.amazon.com/Heat-Temperature-Resistant-Adhesive-Electric/dp/B00W3FAFP0/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1518057703&sr=8-4&keywords=kapton+tape&dpID=41remhS2vSL&preST=_SX342_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
My main advice on doing this is to use as little as possible liquid metal to make sure it doesn't run onto the pcb.
Perhaps start with some good regular paste first like Gelid GC Extreme and see what results you get.
I did a test on my Sager NP 9873 and there wasn't much between them.
Here is that video:
ruclips.net/video/1u_CXoQzNNg/видео.html
yeah Hope it will be a good idea! I'll let you know guys in case I proceed with the experiment maybe after some prior calculation and estimates. Problem is the heatpipes seem to be isoleted with that black painting wich of course has to be scratched away and I'm worried that interferes with the warranty validity.
Undervolting helped a lot but obviously is not enough!! (mine seems to stay preatty stable at -150 mV on cpu core, gpu, cache, system agent and analog I/O but I have to test it out further more. I don't have much time available with university. I' ve noticed, if I'm not wrong, the fast ramping up of the termperatures decrese a lot the undervolting headroom).
Onother idea to evaluate are the relatively new 1 mm thick sheet heatpipes used on new smartphone but I haven't figured out yet their actual performance order of magnitude. Anyway I want that metal bottom panel to be used as a passive heatsink!!=D
I love the 720 15" but saying the thermal performances are bad is an euphemism really! A little bit more of engineering would have been enough to place some more more powerful heatpipes dear Lenovo!
Tell you what - if you do embark on this venture I would love to interview you and show your work in a video if you up for it. I think it is a great idea and love the creativity :)
That liquid metal is just amazing what a difference :P gonna do this on all my new laptops for sure!
JooJoo Flop it is amazing stuff, I've been reading up on it though and seemingly you even get a reaction with copper so I think it needs some maintenance to keep at its best..
yeah i read the same thing.. they said every 3 to 6 months you will need to do it again to keep it at its best. but with the Alienware and most laptops its pretty easy to get in. However not so the razer blade pro!
Excellent video as always! I know you've mentioned it multiple times, but I'm very forgetful, what is the utility you use to undervolt?
Lol Nope Thanks! I used Throttlestop on this notebook but I also use Intel Extreme Tuning Utility..
OWNorDISOWN Thank you sir. already halfway to the next 1000 mark on subscribers! I told you, it's going to snowball. It feels like 3000 subscribers was only yesterday!
Lol Nope I know, slowly getting there. Might try some advertising this weekend.. I'll be a my 1 year anniversary July 13th. Hoping to be at 5000 subs then!
Hello and thanks for this video. I want to buy this computer as a mobile and web developer and designer I am but I'm scary about the scratched tape you got.
Do you recommend to use something like a cover to protect it of that? But might be a problem to rotate it to 360 position.
I want to buy the FHD model + the nvidia, can it use an external monitor to 4K display?
Ruylo Thanks for watching it 😀 I purchased a nice case
www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06XYVH96B/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1518008425&sr=8-6&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=lenovo+yoga+720+15+case&dpPl=1&dpID=51LgjpDdeQL&ref=plSrch
Yes, you can get a dongle adapter that fits in tbe usb c port to hook up 4k 😀
OWNorDISOWN Tech Decisions Made Easy
Thanks for the answer but I'm referring a cover or something like that: m.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-mCover-Hard-Case-for-NEW-15-6-Lenovo-Yoga-720-15-2-in-1-Ultrabook-Laptop-/232525889142?_mwBanner=1
That does look like a good solution. I checked Amazon is the US and they sell it but many people say it doesn't fit...www.amazon.com/mCover-Shell-Lenovo-laptop-Black/dp/B076HB7F3M#customerReviews
Hello. Nice video. Can you give me advice on what protective film to use for the screen? Thank you.
Thanks. This one fits most of it, the screen is actually 350mm long and 205mm high but that includes the black bezels which the screen covers www.amazon.com/COOSKIN-15-6-inch-Anti-glare-Protector-Dispaly/dp/B00D84GA40/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_147_bs_tr_t_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=Y8W7FP7NRDVJ7Q7TBB3E
Thank you. When will you publish the comparison video with the HP x360?
Cherubino Serafino I've just installed some games so it will be at least a week, probably not this weekend but next. If I can get it done sooner I will. My next video will be the P57x.
Ok. Thank you very much!
Very informative video. Just wanted to mention the typo in your thumbnail. Leno instead of Lenovo
Daniel D. Thanks. Ah.. That sucks. I will have to change it. Thanks for letting me know!
You should do a video on undervolting the GPU and see if there is some performance perks in gaming for this laptop
Already have my friend:) ruclips.net/video/kKATo7iLjXg/видео.html
Alright, I tried it on my yoga 720 and I think I did it wrong it something because nothing changed from what I can tell as far as temps and frame rates go. I have it flatline at about 1800mhz at 925mv.
You won't see any increase in FPS unless it is boosting higher. Have you tried overclocking it? As far as temperature goes my GTX 1050 didn't get hot. BF1 is the hottest at 89 degrees and that is overclocked
What are your temps?
I haven't tried over clocking it because I'm fairly new to this. This is my first laptop with a dedicated graphic card.
Recently undervolted the CPU -0.140 and I'll reach max temps when using the xtu stress test at about 78c
GPU 70-75c indoors.
Now I am only getting my temperatures from monitoring xtu's min/max/avg stats.
If you have any suggestions I'm all for it
Would you recommend over clocking CPU, you, or gpu memory?
Trying to get all the gaming performance out of this thing I can get
So...use the thermal grizzly conductonaut? Glad you used two different pastes.
Yes, I was glad I actually used two different pastes. I gave the heat sink a good luck and thought it was copper, I need to reopen it up and make sure but nonetheless it still works okay and cooler, lol !
So you leave the electrical tape on? Never used LM, saw a couple vids but like they used 1/4 as ;much as you did and lightly brushed it out. I kinda wanna try it but would prob do it to like my lil pc in case I screw up lol!
bigbenisdaman Yeh, I left it on as it has a max temperature limit of 105 degrees C and I am paranoid it leaks out and shorts out something. This was only my second LM one. My Aorus x3 v7 seems to have survived, lol. It is very hard to spread, I found that using a que tip and lightly brushing the top surface the best so it gradually wets the surface. Takes some practice.. Go for it!
Ah, i was just thinking like electric tape don't really hold well over time but it's prob fine. And yea, i'd be paranoid it would leak lol! If i can get the issues with my GL 502 vs i might do it on it after I try on lil pc and main pc, for practice and all.
bigbenisdaman good luck!
Hello Stephen, Thankyou for the video, i unplugged my lenovo flex 14 battery and plugged it back in, now it wouldn't charge at all, when i unplug the battery again the laptop recognised power is connected, but when battery is plugged in then it doesn't recognise battery nor charger... do you think this is an software or hardware problem? thankyou
my yoga 720 w/ i5 7300hq gtx1050 gets turbo boost from 2.5 to 3.1 @ 75C playing newest games... theres a program throttlestop you can unlock turboboost in heavy/gaming loads... just my 5 cents.
All in my full review mate
Nice Video. At which temperature (GPU & CPU) the lenovo throttles?
unknown reader thanks. It throttles at 95 degree C.
Are you going to re-upload a re-re-pasting video soon? Just bought mine a few days ago. Also, will Lenovo release a bios update that could enable increased fan speed you think?
I actually did one a while ago. It would be nice if they did allow us to change the fan speed, they should do so but probably won't as they want to be in full control of it I guess. Here is my video on it being repasted: ruclips.net/video/F0nyLA-65sU/видео.html
Prestonious I'm afraid my yoga 720 is broken. I took it apart to see how the liquid metal was and I think I must have bent the motherboard when lifting the heat sinks off as it wouldn't boot afterwards. It's going in for repairs.
OWNorDISOWN Tech Decisions Made Easy dang sorry to hear about that. I went ahead and undervolted mine like you suggested in one of your videos. Approx - 113mv on the core, cache and igpu. It's stable. However I havent tested to see if there is any difference in performance although I feel I'm getting slightly better battery life. One thing I did notice is that I can't use after burner to undervolt the 1050. Any suggestions?
L Roberts I know,I was gutted 😥 Might have to alter the config file to allow voltage changes . I'll try on my gt1050ti laptop and report back.
@@OWNORDISOWN Hello, did you find out what was the culprit with your 720 not working. I didn't see a follow-up to that.
Thank you so mucho for this video. I did the same with mine plus an undervolt and managed to drop the temps.
Great ! Glad it helped :)
OWNorDISOWN Tech Decisions Made Easy I also use it in tent mode to game. Ir improves the air flow And helps with the temps. But is it ok to game with temps around 80 degrees?
That's a good idea ! Yes, 80 degrees is perfect :) What thermal paste did you end up using ?
OWNorDISOWN Tech Decisions Made Easy I used the Artic MX4. I got a drop of around ten degrees with the repaste and the undervolt
Hey there 1 Question: Is it possible to turn off the hyperthreading for this Lenovo maschine? (because of Meltdown & spectre)
Also it helps to drop the temp a little.
No I don't think so. I don't recall seeing the option in the BIOS and I don't have it any more., but you can disable turbo boost or even better just reduce the clock rate
thank you for your fast reply and your advice. Will keep your channel in mind.@@OWNORDISOWN
hello mr exklim realy i like your dissect about the devices and i want your experince to advice me. iam a graphic designer and interesting to get this device yoga 720 15 core i7 with dedicated invidea gtx but not the 4k cause it have a big issue with thick blk line in top ... so do u recommend this model for work with adobe illustrator and premier
Mohammed Abdulaziz hi Mohammad, thanks , glad you like my videos. Yes, I think it will serve you very well. Six core CPUs will be coming out soon, perhaps next month and that may help in your rendering. I haven't seen any models announced yet but that is what Gigabyte told me .
?i appreciate your reply so The problem of heat will not affect performance
If you apply an undervolt you should be fine :) I wouldn't recommend disabling Turbo boost but you can also use Throttlestop to alter the multipliers down a bit if need be. Start with the undervolt and see how you get on :)
Is it possible to utilize a 16GB So-DIMM on this laptop? I've read conflicting reports. Could you find a working 16gb So-DIMM for the yoga?
I can try a 16GB DIMM from one of my other laptops , ideally you want them to have the same speeds but I can see what happens. I'll let you know.
Lisa from mobile tech review, in her yoga720 review," said that 16GB RAM (the one she was using) was too thick to fit in the RAM slot. So I have been researching and reading blogs to see if anyone has successfully added 16GB RAM to have total of 24GB RAM. But I haven't found any yet. Have you found any Sucess OWNorDisown ? If you do please let us know of the particular RAM you used.
Hey Stephen me and a lot of other people have an issue with lap top. After a bit of use a black line appears located near the top of the screen. Nothing to visable but definetly a hardware defect. Do you have the same problem or heard about it? Love the laptop but im afraid I might have to return it. Wish you the best!
DrizzzDzn hey mate, thanks for the wishes! I have heard of the issue. Another subscriber had it and he told me that it was just with the 4k panel and Best Buy had stopped selling it. It definitely was a hardware issue. I must have been lucky as mine is fine.. If you have it then I woukd definitely have it replaced under warranty, or if you can return it to the store for a replacement. It's such a shame as it is a great laptop 😢
Exaclty my thoughts! I have it under an extended warranty actually but since I can still return mine for a new one that's what I'll do. I do hope I dont have to say goodbye to this powerhouse of a laptop but only time will tell. Also thank you for the quick response and let me tell you you have won a new subscriber! :)
DrizzzDzn thanks for your support mate!
Hello mate, i broke my screw on my yoga 720. Do you know where i can buy new one that fits in? And do you think it will be possible to use superglue and a screwdriver to get enough grip to screw it out? :/
Perhaps Lenovo might have spare ones? I would give you mine since it doesn't go all the way in, I'm going to try cutting mine in half, lol. You could try superglue, depends how tight it is in I guess. So it just sheared inside the case?
I think i have to try with superglue. If this doesnt work i have to drill this little fuc...
unknown reader that does suck big time. Good luck mate. Is there a way to carve your own "groove" on it so you can get some leverage?
nope i already tried it but its so tiny and i already scratched a little bit of the surface. If superglue works i will tell you. Thanks anyway !
I finally made it. As you said, I dug my own score. A few days ago I saw on the lenovo support site spare parts like the underbody. Now I find only 5-6 spare parts. Where did they all go?
I really want to buy a new underbody(case) because i scratched it with the screw driver. But cant find any :/
Nice video over there my friend :) . It's recommended to apply LM to the contact area on the heatsink too to fill up the imperfections in the copper. Also, looks like you need a little bit more paste on the GPU (unless that aeronaut is just bad lol). Keep it up man.
Carlos Valls Thanks Carlos! I was worried about it spreading all over the place if I put too much on but I am a liquid metal newbie so thanks for the tip, I'll do that next time!
Hey man, I got a question. Do you prefer the Dell XPS 15 or this laptop. If you have to choose to have only one, which one would you choose.
Boii for me it has to be the Lenovo as I use the pen a lot. If you are not using the pen nor need the 2-1 it may depend on price but the xps cpu is clocked corrupt of the box so no disabling turbo boost so that is a big plus for me..
Oh wow, ok, that makes sense why you would chose the Lenovo. What do you mean by clocked corrupt? I have a dell XPS 15 and never heard of that issue. Do you talk about that in one of your videos?
Boii sorry, auto spelling on my phone. I was typing on one hand as I walked the dog! It meant to say that the Lenovo disables turbo boost so in cpu work you get a 30% performance hit unless you enable it then you are faced with temperature issues. The XPS 15 has turbo boost enabled so it will be faster out of the box. I haven't tried one to see how hot it gets though. I use the pen all the time. To be honest I do prefer my Surface Book as it is so small and light. Hope that helps!
Oh lol... That definitely helps. My XPS 15 used to thermal throttle a lot last year, but I undervolted and re-pasted it and that left some thermal room for me to overclock the 960m buy 135MHz on the core and 700MHz on the memory.
Boii great, so you know what you are doing. Perfect!
Hey man last time i checked ur sub was at 2k and now it's at 4k. You are making all kinds of progress.
Sgt. Keyboard Warrior Thanks, I'm trying. It's a lot of hard work.. My one year anniversary is coming up on July 13th.. Can I make 5000? I hope so!
OWNorDISOWN damn it, July 13 is my girlfriend's birthday too. I can pray for you man!
OWNorDISOWN hey man did you get a chance to see this laptop I think it's new gt73 with non overlock CPU www.microcenter.com/product/479019/GT73VR_TITAN_PRO-693_173_Gaming_Laptop_Computer_-_Black
Hey Tyler, o I hadn't seen that model ! Think I should review it? I've returned two to Microcenter but I can get my wife to buy it perhaps in a few weeks..
OWNorDISOWN yes that would be fantastic if you could review it and compare it to the one with overclk CPU, odd enough this model is only at micro center!
Is the heat pipe copper or aluminum? I heard that there you cant put metal on aluminum. Is there any chance of metal leaking? I know it might be stupid question but did you remove tape after applying paste? Thx for helping
I took it apart some 9 months afterwards, there was no corrosion so I suspect it was copper. I put tape around the die but I had put too much LM on and a bit did leak out. I recommend putting some a foam barrier around it and certainly less than I applied. My laptop was still working but don't have it anymore.
@@OWNORDISOWN thank You very much for response :) I'm new into replacing paste so I decided to stay with kryounat. Is it still the best option?
Yes, I think that is the safest option :)
@@OWNORDISOWN thank You! I will leave a like and subscribe! You are great :)
Did the Bios Update that just came out help you with your shut down times? That was listed in the description of the fixes included.
brent hillyer thanks Brent. I'll have to check. I think I did the update but I have done so many it's hard to keep track. I'll let you know.
i saw videos for the 1080p version and it doesent seem to get to 90 it seemed to be around 50 celcius so is it just a problem with the 4k version
I wouldn't have thought so. If you saw my full review Lenovo disabled turbo boost so it would run at about 1000 MHz less. They did this because they knew it was hot. Most people wouldn't know . Perhaps the videos you saw still had it disabled....
was that done in a patch then?
Kamikazi Lucas it's done at the bios level. Install Throttlestop and you can check...
I don't have any experience with liquid metal & am hesitant to try it out on a laptop. Do you think it would be worth re-pasting the 720 with Kryonaut?
Most definitely. Liquid metal is dangerous stuff. Stick with the Kryonaut.
conductonaut is the king. great video.great result. :)
liviu patrasc Thanks buddy!
why not use and to the gpu conductornaut ? aeronaut sucks , if you gonna use normal thermal paste use hydronaut or kryonaut ... or even better MX-4
thanasis47 I ran out of conductanut at that time.
Is it possible to change integrated graphics to gtx 1050
I have an alienware 15r3 i7-7700HQ with gtx 1070 i need to repaste it since the temps go up 97 Celsius, is liquid metal safe after months on cpu and gpu?
juniora aburto After 7 months I opened up my yoga 720 and it was still good, but it will end up oxidizing and even reacting with the copper. They say to redo it every 6 months. Dont put much on, I put you much on here really. Good luck!
You need to use a bit more LM paste than usual, that's it. Just add up more to the current amount without doing full repaste again.
So basically the thermals on the yoga 720 suck ... do I understand this correctly ?
Lex Gabrees yes, that is very true but if you put some work into it, leave it without turbo boost or restrict the boost amount it is okay. I appreciate the majority will leave it at stock.
OWNorDISOWN Tech Decisions Made Easy well ... I understand your point .. but it's ridiculous to not be able to use turbo boost normally ... pretty funny actually...
Yes, it is crazy. What I can't figure out is Intel keeps bringing out refreshed CPUs with less power yet we are still being thermally restrained. The best design yet that I have seen was the Asus Zephyrus.
I think they feel that the average user will not notice these flaws, and that's enough for them to keep on going the way they do. We saw it happen with Dell and the XPS and probably more brands as well.
The truth is, that they make people pay a certain amount of money for something that is flawed, while they know it. They are just misleading and fooling customers ... That's what it comes down to in the end.
I agree totally. Take this new XPS 13 it runs super hot and I cannot see this famous aerogel ... the i7 is a complete waste as it will never boost to 4 Ghz but people will pay extra thinking it will. It's my duty to tell them :)
I got the Alienware 17 R4
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7820HK CPU @ 2.90GHz (2903.98 MHz)
Memory: 16257 MB
OS Version: Microsoft Windows 10 64-bit (Build 15063)
Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 1080/PCIe/SSE2
far as i been testing this laptop is solid machine does run warm not like my Apple MacBook Pro 17 inch back in 2008 that ran 214 degrees F
Welcome to Heaven What's it like when you overclock, say to 4.2 ghz?
i haven't done any over clocking yet but that will come soon
Did you leave the tape in there after applying the new paste and closing it up?
yes, I felt it better to be safe in case the paste squirted out ..it has a max temp rating of 105 deg C .
Hey could you do a video about replacing the gtx1050 with 1050ti
Unfortunately the GPU is soldered onto the motherboard - cannot switch it out :(
OWNorDISOWN so sad....I saw they said yoga 720 support up to 1050ti 4gb so I thought it’s replaceable
Ruite Xu as far as I know only the MSI GT73VR and some Clevo models have mxm graphics cards that can be replaced. Can the Lenovo yoga 720 now be configured with a 1050ti? Are you sure you aren't thinking of the 1050 4GB version?
OWNorDISOWN oh maybe it’s 1050 4gb...then can we upgrade the one to 4gb ourselves?
Does this break the warranty by doing this? Thanks!
I don't believe so. make sure you only put a small amount of LM on it. I would actually recommend sticking with something like Gelid GC Extreme. I did some testing and it performed at same level as the liquid metal plus there is less risk of short circuiting your motherboard.
The other ram is soldered to the motherboard or in the other side of the motherboard?
Fiskar yes, it must be soldered on I think, or perhaps underneath. Either way you dont have access
How much were you able able to undervolt the system?
Sebastian Benner I did 150mv easily, I'll see what more I can squeeze out of it and report back ☺️
Does anyone know of manual or photos on removing the USB from this unit?
It's gotten badly damaged physically (don't ask). It's unusual enough that I haven't found a manual or photos that show removing & replacing it. Lenovo tech thinks it probably screwed to main board. One on side w/power button on Yoga 720-151KB 80x7 (HD screen)
Loved this video on heat sinking, so hoping someone passing by can help?
c B glad you liked my video. I found this video ruclips.net/video/B0fTf8u7X0A/видео.html
Thank you, thank you, thank you! I thought I posted a thank you for years ago but apparently not. I hadn't found anything remotely that exact to what I needed when I searched.
Will artic silver 5 help??? 90c to 75?
It will certainly be better than the stock paste
could do without the music? in the background...very distracting and muffles your voice. also the camera is so far away from what your actually doing it's hard to actually see what's going on.
Steve Amendola ok, thanks for the feedback Steve. I'll try and change it up next time
So he left the tape on there?
I did, to help prevent any errant liquid metal migrating and shorting out anything. It has a max temp of 105 deg C.
I'll look out for that! BTW Your reviews are so much more in depth than anyone out there! I don't even want to check em, thanks a bunch!
Brush Runner Thanks mate! I try and be as thorough as possible and give people enough info so they can make a good decision on their purchase. These things aren't cheap. Cheers
you are the best can you test (dell xps 15 uhd gtx 1050)
Thanks Ahmed, that would be a nice one to do a comparison against for sure. Let ne see how my finances go over the next few months...
OWNorDISOWN ❤thank you
do you leave the electrical tape inside
Yes, it helps protect the surrounding area from the liquid metal. I put a little much LM on this time. Just a thin layer and you are good :)
Thanks, and also should I apply conformal coating underneath the tape just in case. And I'm not sure how much liquid metal I should buy.
Michael Lee can't do any harm. The tape used needs to be thin, some use kapton tape. I like the idea of the conformal coating around the area too, last thing you want is the liquid metal shorting anything out on the motherboard.
One last question, what's the heat sink made of for the yoga 720 and will it corrode over time?
Michael Lee after 7 months my heatsink was not corroded, it was discoloured, like a stain. It wasn't brittle like you would get with aluminum so I suspect it is copper
You should try to undervolt, too :)
I did- i included those results in the video...It's a tough one to cool down, lol. My conclusion stands - for gaming disable turbo boost, undervolt and ideally repaste with liquid metal and game in a refrigerator :)
holy shit that was like triple the amount you need... and then you still applied more xD
Yeh, I did apply too much. Live and learn !
can i buy ur msi gt73vr titan pro for 2000?
I've not decided that I will sell it yet...still testing the Sager NP 9873. I'll let you know.
i was thinking with the money i give + a lil more u could get the new slim asus notebook tell me if u gonna sell it could u think a lil quickly btw thanks
Geez you must be rich to have all these expensive laptops unless it's a they are review units.
Ricardo Rogers just a little disposable income. you sell them after a month or so for a little loss
btw aeronaut needs to cure a bit afik
Ricardo Rogers nope, bought them all on credit. Return where I can and sell where I can't..
MASCULINE MCGAINS that is what I thought, how long do you think? I did the tests the next day after using it for a bit.
Bit disappointing on the GPU eh! I'd like to see results with the liquid metal on the GPU as you'd think it would bring the CPU down even more. Maybe post a short update video when you get hold of some more!
why does the stupid company didn't use good paste at first place, can ramp up their performance and quality hence not costing much for these type of thing. damned piece of shit rock mind.
Good video, perhaps all those 1080 graphic and power booster new laptop need to repaste for every customer.. so what for pay them so much $$$ for their laptop
Thanks, glad you found it useful ! What I was pissed about was that they disabled turbo boost to keep it cool. Very sneaky. They would have been better to have used better paste, increase fan speed a bit and undervolt perhaps..
Wow that's not a good tradeoff
what"s that? The Aeronaut? Yeh, I was a little disappointed in that. Hopefully it will settle in a bit. Haven't fired any games on it since though.