A few years ago I remembered a smell, a perfume from the 1970s a girlfriend wore. I didn't smell it, there was nothing in the house that reminded me of it, but my mind conjured the exact aroma I hadn't come across in decades. In doing so a rush of emotions impressed themselves upon me, including how I felt as a teenager. Most memory is parenthetical, a jumble of incidents and anecdotes that define the past in the present. This on the other hand, was like being there for a few moments, an old me hidden but perfectly preserved in the current one. On what psychic backburner had that been bubbling away?
@@borderlands6606 I remember a moment in my own life where I remembered a perfume that was from very early childhood, that took me back as well, I was walking on the road going back home when I thought I could smell it, the moment didn’t last very long but the feelings it conjured are still with me today, decades later.
Yes! This relates to the notion of qualia as the essence of consciousness, the sense of being there. Qualia memory is famously described by Wordsworth in 'The Daffodils': "When oft upon my couch I lie/In vacant or in pensive mood/They flash upon my inward eye/Which is the bliss of solitude". Qualia memory flashbacks can be triggered by a sensory input, smell, taste, sound, sight or feeling; they can be bidden or conjured up - or most fascinating - happen spontaneously. The sense of being there, congruent, a perfect match to the original subjective experience. Then that moment fades away, leaving a joyous sense of recognition. I have written extensively about this phenomenon on my blog (can't link in a RUclips comment sadly). The most interesting qualia memory flashbacks are those which I recognise... but not from this lifetime.
@@MichaelDembinski yes, I have such qualia memory flashbacks as well... would love to read your blog..perhaps you can share the name of your blog site. Thanks for highlighting 'qualia memories'✨
@@MichaelDembinski It's the unbidden experiences I find interesting. It's possible to accommodate physical smells that trigger olfactory memories, but a memory of a smell is like a Russian doll of memory, Its completeness of place, language and emotion seemingly lost to time, is too exhaustive to be described as a "memory". There are no prompts or cues, just a complete other mental landscape transposing itself on and contained within the present.
I use a form of past life healing meditation in which I see people, events, places from other lives I have lived. I am seeking to heal old connections with people around me in this life. I am grateful and humbled by this process. It allows me to forgive ancient things and live more freely. This meditation takes me to what some call the Akashic record. Others will have a different name for it. Its always available through space and time. Collective Unconscious is another term I think, for it. Thank you for this lovely discussion.❤
The smell of the Madeleine…what a lovely concept. Now I have a term for that feeling of a memory. Also, that drawer, where we keep the memories, is like a hypnotic impression and whenever you mention it I am back in my mother’s kitchen. It wasn’t lovely there but I can remember the drawer pulls and everything white. Thank you.
Rupert, I love your content. I randomly found it this weekend and have been infatuated. I watched hours of your talks and every word sounded incredibly familiar. I haven’t read a book in probably 20+ years but have arrived at very similar conclusions to you. I would love to participate in your experiments or chat with you.
Whitehead drew quite heavily upon the ideas of Henri Bergson. Bergson, in the book Matter and Memory, outlines first some of these ideas that Whitehead and yourself and some others have also picked up on since then. It is interesting because it involves a complete paradigm shift in one's ontological outlook of the very nature of reality, and I think this is what puts some people off as, it's too radical a change for them to handle.
On watching the full video, I see you mention this background, it is so sad that real discussions about this kind of philosophical perspective have largely been hijacked by weak caricature positions like logical positivism and post modernism.
I have nothing to say about this specific subject due to my lack of knowledge, but sir your videos and lectures have revolutionised my way of thinking and how I viewed reality. Although I am not a christan, i am a muslim but it is a huge shock that muslims and christans agree on so much. Sir I would love if you express your views on islam and quran, as we muslims claim our holy book to be filled with scientific miracles. I might help us to learn something new and intresting.
Michael Levin has done fascinating work with Planarian worms. These are worms that can be cut in half and the tail grows a new head and the head grows a new tail. He has found that the worms with just a tail, grow a new head with memories.
Non-Scientist here - but can someone explain... In an entirely saturated, closed system - wouldn't time and movement itself naturally create morphic fields of increased probability through 'ontological hydraulics' - given that every action would affect everything else? The result being, that we end up as present-dwelling avatars of history. Or is that too simplistic?
Given the trajectory it should be like waves in an ever smaller pool increasing efficiency of morphic transfer. I am curious what his response is on this aspect. It seems like it implies a recent start to this process and a latter end of much more intelligent humans.
I remember reoccurring "waking up" within a dream and saw that I was in "futuristic" space station being in a giant artificial gravity wheel having a fight with one of the doctors in white coats telling me: "it will all come back" (remembering) ... Seeing myself holding a fist as a symbol of resistance, what is happening to me ... Then slowly I remembered who he was and that I trusted him for a long, long time. Like I knew him for ages. That feeling of "complete safety & serenity" ... at that movement, I chose to accept anything they are doing to me was "necessary" for whatever purpose. I was laying on a sterile hospital type, comfortable adjustable bed with 4 people surrounding me. 2 on each side. One is pouring a jelly like liquid in to my face, another is injecting stuff on the other side of my head, and the other two were making sure I stayed in the chair-like bed. Then I realized just before I "dozed off" that they betrayed my trust in them! ... This energy was SO strong it was totally imprinted to current "presence" here on Earth. What I just explained here have two aspects: ... Somehow I know they think it is necessary what they do >>> and I feel/sense absolutely no "evil intent" >>> BUT they had to LIE to me to do things a certain way ... And that really pissed me off. This is a reoccurring theme happened in so many different dreams/visions, and it felt like it happened in the future, sending me back to now here! My whole life, am super allergic when people are not authentic, "playing nice" not being genuine ... and made it very clear to all why I feel the need to raise certain questions to learn WHY people behave in a certain way. Hence, psychology became like "breathing" to me. It is part of who I am now. There is a pattern of having strong vivid "visionary" dreams, and mostly it is like getting an "upgrade" ... On average, I have them once a few years. But now I have them multiple times last few weeks ... So YES there IS something going right now and coming months. What I have learned is that having access to "instant awareness" at the moment it is needed to have that kind of access ... is "totally normal" and extremely common in the "after life" or "spiritual world" hence there is no need for having a "memory" like physical Earth people do ... Memories can be altered because of our injected projections/expectations/interpretations mixed with emotions that are mostly traumas of the past, BLURRING (contaminating) factual unfiltered observations/experiences. We assume we are defined having memories, and we are shaped through our experiences, correct? ... What if that is a form of self-conditioning preventing you gaining access to who you truly are? How many different "workshops" & "therapies" out there that are about letting go of what is holding you back to live your life ... Going beyond the "eternal victim mode" ... "Poor me mentality" breeds more than often "poor me reality". When we meditate and succeed to (temporary) become FREE from (judgmental) labels we use on almost anything 24/7 ... There is something inside ALL OF US that is beyond all "thinking" beyond all thoughts you had, have and going to have combined ... Same for all other people having thoughts about you, who you're "suppose to be" past present & future. This "essence" is existence that goes much deeper than "having a memory" with all the "conclusions" & "interpretations" we are conditioned to have in a certain way. Those who can not access "instant awareness" often depend on programmed behavior spoon-fed to them ... this could come from all kinds of self-imposed beliefs. Many of them are very helpful & useful to serve a specific purpose ... but not all! I have created a unique "meditation technique" for myself and discussed it long time ago on Radio & TV Amsterdam in the mid 1990s getting lots of fascinating feedback from the audience. Explaining that it may not work for you, but it does for me ... all depends on your attitude/mentality/self-imposed limitations etc. etc. ... If it does not work for you, I will not judge you being "bad" or being "dumb" or whatever ... Because I am fully aware that everybody is unique, having their own "spiritual journey" of "self discoveries" that is beyond having programmed assumptions.
I always find it interesting how some memories are just memories -- whereas others -- when you recall them -- are accompanied by feelings, and with them a curious little burst of euphoria. if you could bottle that little burst of euphoria, I'd be a very happy man.
If you enjoyed the conversation then I would suggest you buy Rupert's book on morphic resonance, and no I don't have any financial interest in it whatsoever, however it is well worth the price to pay for some fascinating information and reasoning
Funny, I just Uploaded a Terence McKenna Video with the Title "How Does Memory Work" last week, and last night, I was Working on a new Batch of RUclips Shorts of you and Terence Walking around The Fossil Museum and talking about Theories of Genetics and what-not..! 😍
I'm a bit mindblown at the point where you talk about spiders potentially having a collective memory that they draw upon to spin webs and such. Because I watched Charlotte's Web again recently, and noticed how, Charlotte seems to know plenty of things about the world that shouldn't be possible for her short lifespan. Plus, her children speak of themselves as "we" until Wilbur gives them the idea that they _can_ identify themselves as individuals. It made me think, 'Maybe spiders share a hivemind?' Because, you just know the animators tossed those details in there because they "felt right", rather than consciously planning to.
Thanks again for your interesting thoughts. I feel that sleep plays a very important part in memory function. Subconscious sense data from our 6 senses is constantly changing into information while we e are awake..,but when we sleep junk mail is discarded so that when we awake again in the new morning 🌅 we feel refreshed mentally and physically. The books i have read about sleeping haven't mentioned this. What do you think. My deep respect for your thoughts.
Waking dreams are remembered but normal dreams dreams are not. My theory is Waking Dreams are a link to the other side therefore they are remembered in detail as well My take is they are real. I ponder as yet science only postulates where memory is located, Science presumes memory is Global. Why not think of memory is perhaps stored somewhere else than our brain. Could all of us have a connection of different depths to the collective. Our Brains are only receivers or have limited processes in terms of memory.
Something in what Mark said - there is a sense that we humans have lost something. Perhaps it is how we are are tuned to map the world and impressions onto thought and word - that in this process much nuance is lost. I imagine the process, or skill, has evolved with the fact that we are extraordinarly social animals - that any nuance lost has been made up for with the blunt instrument of the word.
@peterfrance702 you made a comment to me, about reptilian minds, I have no idea where you got that from, David Icke? Maybe that's why you removed it? (BTW being dyslexic myself ICKE to me reads I-cee-k [I seek] :O))
@@sr3d-microphones Hi. Yes. Let's see if I can remember it! The reference to reptilian minds was ... tell you what, a quick search on 'reptilian brain' will be more effective than me attempting to explain it. Very simply it is thought to be an older, deeper part of the brain, evolved in our very distant ancestors, and still functioning and carrying out essential tasks. The idea was that perhaps the reptilian brain processed smells (rather than than the thought association that occurs in the higher brain). Olfactory senses being essential to our reptilian ancestors. Thus smells are handled differently to other memories. The mechanism is deeper hence the recall more vivid. Hope you get the gist. Nothing to do with Icke! I wrote the comment only a few minutes in to the video. Something they later discussed caused me to delete it.
@@sr3d-microphones Actually, on reflection, I think the poorly explained mechanism in my original comment above is extremely significant. I've not heard the idea expressed before. I'll just add a little to it before I forget. The idea is that primary to thought in terms of actual labels and words is feeling/emotion/vibe. When we think or recall first comes the vibe then there is a searching for a suitable word or phrase that is adequately close to the vibe to map on to it. The habit of mapping 'words' onto vibe is so habitual that we usually cease to even notice the vibe. Very young children experience the world in vibe.
@@sr3d-microphones Oh good grief, YT deleted my response. Google 'reptilian brain'. Deeper parts of the brain might deal with the sense of smell differently to other memories - because the mechanism is so very ancient. Also being deeper it may give rise to more vivid impressions.
@@sr3d-microphones YT seems to be messing with my comments. Not sure what you can see. Anyway the concept of our having a deeply embedded, more primal mind is well accepted I believe.
How can a person remember a past life with profound accuracy as a child like Ann Frank, there are others? Like the Boy who said he was a fighter pilot in WW2 they got him together with a wing buddy and this 80 plus year old had conversations and the child knew detail of Dog fights they were in !!!!!!!!!! No one else could have known the detail.
I think perhaps that when the brain is growing it perhaps matches someone else's brains “fingerprints” as it forms, and you are able to receive “memory” from the morphic fields that Rupert suggests, perhaps? I think, with an open mind, that if the brain is a receiver of some sort, then as it morphs into an adult brain where it no longer changes form, i wonder if there is a possibility that it could match that pattern of someone else and then able to “receive” those thoughts or memories. I am sure that our brains are as different to each other as faces are, and we do often see people who are their doppelgangers. Just an idea, of course. I do enjoy thinking outside the box, so to speak.
@@sr3d-microphones I am a seeker ever since my NDE, I will never be the same again, that in a way my eyes were opened. This way of thinking is much Like Professor Sheldrake. I think most humans with thick veils live there day (human lifetime) in total ignorance to the real place of our souls origin. My Goal is to teach others to seek the real wealth is NOT money but one to have a pure heart. My NDE opened a single day to me. It opened a previous lifetime and all those I loved there. I remember much detail. Know that seeking is likely to bring enlightenment.
It's hyper-unlikely that anyone can maintain any information "in-between cycles", but it's not entirely impossible. Implausible, YES. By a colossal, cosmic landslide. But impossible? No. Yet mankind doesn't pay it much regard, because the terrestrial is far more important to it than anything celestial, obviously. 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In time, all points converge; hope's strength, resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again." 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ --Diamond Dragons (series)
@@robertforsythe3280 How about this: All animals in the animal kingdom, apart from a few enlightened ones, must be completely ignorant of everything, except all of what it is they are doing in their waking moments. Perhaps the enlightened ones have a defect (or I could say ability) in their brains that opens up the world of enlightenment that enables them to have the imagination to see things on a level that is actually accurate that conforms to a reality that should not have been accessible to them. Like Neo falling out of his pod in the matrix where there was another reality hiding in our own very realm of existence.
the memories that appear in a CPU, or a HDD, can also appear in the cache of the cpu or the hdd. the same data can also be being held in the RAM. The memory problem isn't a problem in the singularity idea... every possibe combination and permutation of absolutely everything the is even possible to exist already exists all the time all at once ... there doesn' t need to be local memory... the story is in the book before it's been in the eyes, then the optic nerve, then in the brain, then in the phenomenon knowns as interpretive imagination etc...
Local memory is stored in the gap between the topological edge of our physicality and the boundary of our energetic field. This is what we refer to as working memory, when in fact it's our ability to work our memory, from a conscious perspective. The topological edge of human skin works in conjunction with the boundary condition of the electromagnetic field, via Consciousness, to maintain homeostasis. Matter and energy are both information but information isn't matter and energy - It's meaning relative to the observer.
memories are part of the mind which is part of consciousness never forgets, the brain is the weak link it has limited capability. An aunt who suffered something like a stroke she recovered fully. The family asked what were you feeling, she told them she felt stupid, she wanted to answer but she couldn't. She understood the question , knew the response but the meat puppet won't follow orders.
So in virtue what enhances memory thinking and will? Can this witness of memory, thinking and will, then be denied or dismantled? And again what denies or dismantles?
Nonetheless one can walk down memory lane. Take my wife for instance, or at least that photo of a beach that reminds me of the walk I had yesterday, with my wife. Focusing on my wife evokes a very complex 'chord' of impressions, some impressions in that chord jump to the surface, some can be teased out if there is purpose. The process of how that memory, at first a hazy, borderless kind of emotion kind of morphs or maps onto the world of things and words is intimately bound up in the process.
People who have lost or born with very very little brain material and found out later in persons life, so they we're front loaded and told they were handicapped memories were perfectly normal in memory and motorskills.
Memory can be learned abilities and without it can be frustrating. I’m losing my memory and can already see the virtues of AI - personal server AI, not cloud AI.
Whatever you did not record and cannot accurately recall is forever lost. Thus, it's crucial to maintain as many impartial and accurate memories as one can, because once an individual is about to slip beyond the void veil... little if nothing can pass through. 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In time, all points converge; hope's strength, resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again." 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ --Diamond Dragons (series)
For a maestro to paint a master piece, the master uses the trace left in matter by events in time.This, to construct an imager from which meaning arises as a consequence from the master's choice. This is self expression. However There is a certain context where this arises from, of which I will not speak.
@@M_K171 if consciousness was the sea, we little avatars are simply raindrops returning to source- the trip from the cloud to the sea is very short and depending on your path where you land, you may not return for what seems like an eternity (freshwater lakes and icecaps are but a few obstacles on the way back for some). But when you do reach source you’d know everything that has been experienced, so I doubt you’d miss anything that’s been said at the ‘world soul’ party. 🎉
Very interesting concept the one of morphic resonance (MR)! I've never been convinced that the brain is a computer with a HDD for memory storage. To me it was a way of oversimplifying the problem of locating the memory; it was a shortcut by exaptation: a computer works like this, then, the brain must be the same or similar to a computer. Moreover, MR could be a fundamental component by which tulpamancers access the memory of others by imaginaly personifying a particular individual.
for a person with a mind which tends to say that everything is some wow connected you appear to be befuddled by the idea that every cell in your body, with an apparently good memory as it replaces those cells with regular regularity, participates to the fullest degree in every "thing" that your meandering mind participates in including the nonsense fantasies where the eye of your minds voice tends to show you who is doing all the looking tell you who is doing all the listening and whoa is he who is doing all the thinking and coming up with all of the answers to the questions that wind up having to be asked as the rest of the you who has a hard time remembering what he walked into the room for needs to constantly refer back to the memory of the cells who were not other wise occupied in the inter um and so still have the directions that were calculated in the initial run up to the run down that is giving your compromised mind another jolt of memory juice to fill the think tank with enough answers to make the soup smell appeteazing while the salt shaker is still hovering... perhaps the solution to the di lemma is to stop looking in the place you thought the brain was and start looking where the action is that must be where the brain is/was/wool βε again when the battery located in the cranium dispenses the juice that the brains body lets said high level energy storage device know is happening through the sea which sees light sounds right and is the aether in condensed form flowing the show as the juice on the go aeither meets the message half way or some nonsense causes a short in the circuit and the same incorrect message turns the sane co muni cat ion into the same repet it ive heard that cat song before nonsense that only the lonely are ever asking for more of as cats meow from hot tin roofs in the heat of the night the mind is in every cell of your wondering body and that big old battery located between the golden pillars of hera right there behind the eyes of the oracle horus wired into the horns of Ra where the vibratory picture of the frequency your salt water lenses just sent back through the pool of tears swimming around at the top of the bean stalk that jack runs up and down knowing in the stand that the in is out and the down is up when the left foot of some deep thinker lets the wondering you of you ness now in k what the temprature is in ten ways before the talker gets a complex number imagined and a unit tray sorted out for full ness of thought. as with the nonsense that poor little old bobby sapolsky is babbling about people not being required to stop and think before acting because they are alive and that makes the thought process un knowable as much as it is for those who choose not to know it un control able. substitute one word for the other and wala bobs your uncle...your mind is not located in the brain bucket shop unless the circuit which keeps your current flowing is shorted out as the result of too many nonsense ions bouncing around and consequently up against the idea of real reality that really exist in each cell down to the atom of your body that knows exactly how to keep you healthy happy and warm if only you the operator of the organs and thus the organ is mmmm would just shut up and listen to yourself speak with the ears you have to hear not through the head set that some bozo gave you for an X mass extinct ion pre sent present that if listened to often enough will kill you dead as a door nail sooner rather than later
Every thing leaves a trace in space time . The trace is continuously present like a lock and key into the structure of space time. Re collate. re glue by reasoning,, calculus memory is a quantum calculus to find the best fit of ourselves in space time.
Ugh. Aristotle is the worst possible "place to start!" Aristotle changed a lot of the Platonic, Hermetic, Mystery religion insights, including what Memory was. Aristotle represents a decided left turn into the rational and the physical about which the ancients would be aghast. For the ancients, Memory was a spiritual being, or, at the least, created and aided by spiritual impulses. For the ancient Greeks, Memory was a goddess and the mother of the nine muses. Good on Sheldrake to get the conversation immediately back on track after this poor "start" so that we can end closer to the truth.
@@kyleelsbernd7566what exactly do you mean by this? I realise the Scholastics rediscovered a lot of previously forgotten to the West texts from Greece and Rome including philosophical and mathematical ones.
the only way that someone could find it interesting that a memory would be tied to time and place and feelings etc" is if they are making the mistake of artificially dissecting all of the various 'kinds' of sensory inputs as being independent... science constantly makes the mistake of IMAGINING that everything is nothing more than the sum of it's parts... the sum total of the body/brain/mind's ability to take in signal is ONE. It's a complete phenomenon so to speak...
I before I even begin to listen I hear through my esp hearing that sheldrake is with holding information he already knew. But who Am I to make such a claim….”I am” EA639
We just don't know what memory is. How they are made and most importantly if many memories we feel sure of are accurate at all. False memory via suggestion and stupid psychotherapy can also happen
It's complicated. One way to look at it is actually a little like the way digital drives have been programmed to handle data. The bottom line is that all too often, data files are fragmented and stored non-contiguously. The short analogy here is that your memory may not "totally, absolutely, perfectly" replay an event which you recall "in sequential order". In fact, it may even blend OTHER moments (sometimes non-related ones) into certain memories which don't truly belong, but somehow ended up "paired" with these events, triggers, etc. 🤔 It's not easy to explain because--like our dreams--both Time & Reality are FREEFORM during these moments. You may believe that you recall X, Y, or Z accurately, but unless you wrote it down or recorded it back when it happened... who knows what the truth of true is now! Must give us pause.
Thank you for sharing these great conversations! We are ideas discovering memories through perceptions of time... God imagined our forms and lives into Be-ing. A world without Secrets and Lies is available for us all to choose, and the Truth will free us from the past.
The will is perception. That’s why when one says - Thy Will be done - what one is asking is a change of perception, a miracle. Surrendering the personal will to God has to do with surrendering the believe in perception and asking for truth to be revealed instead of assuming that it can be known through the mind.
To believe in the mind is making the mind God, or looking for salvation or truth where it can’t be found. If we analyze the past, a memory is just how we perceived a certain event. It’s not necessarily what happened but only how we were perceiving it from a programmed mind in that moment of time; which only happened because there is an automatic recording system and an instant taking of authorship of the experience of the playing of the recording. It’s like a triple blind trick and we fall for it 99,9% of the time. The ‘mind’ then is a recollection of programs trying to analyze recorded programs, and believing itself to be an object through different unconscious programs. Even if one has a revelation of some truth, like love for example, the mind will take authorship of it and analyze it and make a distorted story out of it. The programmed mind distorts truth and project illusions. That’s all it does constantly. It can’t be trusted. The Mind is actually silence and only a tiny bit of it is the thinking mind (ego) which takes all of the attention because of the vanity of ‘me’ and the fear of an imaginary death of the thing it believes itself to be. The mind is a thief trying to play policeman. It distorts subjectivity into objectivity and that’s how it creates the illusion of separation, which all minds agree to, because they all have the same operative system (narcissism).
Magneto-dielectric Neurochemistry w/water memory is how your memories are created. Magnetically and Electrically Affected/Charged Neurons interfacing w/organs & simulcasting Conscious Life like a computer, helps bridge the abstract. The "water memory" of water & chemistry of the elements your body is made of, helps store the Specific Neuro-Chemistry of events throughout one's life.
Rupert..commenting as I go..memory as his history kicks in with Aristotle…Anyone who tackles memory must surely start with Homer..With the psychotherapist is he now Fable?? Dismissed??? Where would Aristotle kick in as a given historical figure ..The psychotherapist can say easily..yes yes ..in the teachings of Aristotle..like he’s a contemporary of Jung!!!.. yes spiders spinning webs..birds building nests.. no teacher..Schopenhauer!
Memories are everything you are. Without them, consider what or who you'd be. If upon tomorrow you awakened with SOLELY your motor controls and understanding of English and speech, but NOTHING else... "who" would you be? Nothing. No one. A useless, empty and blank slate. And that's PRECISELY what happens when you're born; you can carry nothing beyond the void veil. 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In time, all points converge; hope's strength, resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again." 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ --Diamond Dragons (series)
@@Novastar.SaberCombat all the other animals don’t seem to know anything else apart from what’s in their awakening moments, I doubt very much they think what they did yesterday, unless they see something that had an impact on them in a past memory. Are we fortunate to be able to have the ability to do what we do (with our abilities with memory), or is it an unfortunate accident that impacts everything in the animal kingdom?
While Sheldrake identifies typology of memory supported by quite recent psychological and, separately, cognitive neuroscientific controlled experiment,, his interlocutor here digresses into some nonprovable beliefs and analogies. Evolved processes creating perception of salience, valence, and updating of those perceptions due to constantly flowing novel sensory input impel associational process. While brained organismsdo possess some consistency of architecture, from molecular, genetic, and transcriptional & translational processes, sensory cuing of memory is best recognized as living, changing (due to glial monitoring and modification of synapses, for useful energetic reasons. I am more interested in completing a useful comment than the elaboration, which would require considerable biological background, beyond that of most auditors, philosophers, or others biased toward simplistic explanations). process. It is adaptation so honed by ?ong selection
Accidental preposting while trying to eli.inate typo. All organisms are adapted to the systems in which they live. Humans, for example, are biased tpward intrahuman sociality, and as a result, skew perceptions and associations to utility, or lack of, as human narratives. Language, not essential to molecularly sensing organisms,is vulnerable to intentional deceptive simulation of reality. Our other biases somewhat deceive us into the very analytical typology occurring in our conflating verbal simulations and the more individual, complex, sensory nature of memory of experience, with its different associative connections. Memory, then, IS essentially similar to implicit memory. The human social nature introduces numerous, sometimes varying, biases. We will Insist upon our individually biased interpretations of a memory, entangled as it is with associations meaningful to the individual, and changing in emphasis, among other dimensions. We cannot sense any event for which our evolved senses are not adapted, and thus miss or diminish the very sensory experiences we do remember, sometimes, even a lifetime distant, change our emphases on aspects of what may have been, but is not now, salient to us. Studying some spatial, social, and associational memories of other intelligent species, i reject caryesian delisions and words, such as those involving "deities" or "spirits" which, although Sheldrick is sincere, he allows in his anthropocentric interlocutor, without challenge. In other wprds, he fails to challenge deceptions here.
Link to possible explanation for morphic function ruclips.net/video/s-SL8qy-6kA/видео.htmlsi=VcwEmOKB3iDGLauT and ruclips.net/video/7-yZZ3eJSKs/видео.htmlsi=Mz0l7HGHQ-T6QS8j
I like most of this video, except the pseudo-christian intro that propagates the indo-euopean ideology that I can clearly see through, and which I don;t abide in a context like this
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@@loriw1234 seems like morphic fields are more likely as if the brain is a receiver of memory - then the buildup of plaques? Could very well be the stuff that inhibits memory reception? My own father didn’t recognise me, but knew I was someone important to him, so getting something from memory, but not full clarity. Some can focus on very early memories but the more recent ones are impacted, the more you think about it the more this seems a likely reason if indeed the brain has a receiver of some kind, that simply becomes more and more defocused starting with the reception of recent recollection first, then goes deep and deeper into the brain as the disease progresses. Just an idea 💡
Terminal lucidity is a well-attested phenomenon, known to hospice workers and others. People with long term dementia will become talkative and coherent shortly before their death. It's as if their physical hard drive crashed, and their spiritual mainframe computer defrags the contents before setting it aside for more important duties.
A few years ago I remembered a smell, a perfume from the 1970s a girlfriend wore. I didn't smell it, there was nothing in the house that reminded me of it, but my mind conjured the exact aroma I hadn't come across in decades. In doing so a rush of emotions impressed themselves upon me, including how I felt as a teenager. Most memory is parenthetical, a jumble of incidents and anecdotes that define the past in the present. This on the other hand, was like being there for a few moments, an old me hidden but perfectly preserved in the current one. On what psychic backburner had that been bubbling away?
@@borderlands6606 I remember a moment in my own life where I remembered a perfume that was from very early childhood, that took me back as well, I was walking on the road going back home when I thought I could smell it, the moment didn’t last very long but the feelings it conjured are still with me today, decades later.
Yes! This relates to the notion of qualia as the essence of consciousness, the sense of being there. Qualia memory is famously described by Wordsworth in 'The Daffodils': "When oft upon my couch I lie/In vacant or in pensive mood/They flash upon my inward eye/Which is the bliss of solitude". Qualia memory flashbacks can be triggered by a sensory input, smell, taste, sound, sight or feeling; they can be bidden or conjured up - or most fascinating - happen spontaneously. The sense of being there, congruent, a perfect match to the original subjective experience. Then that moment fades away, leaving a joyous sense of recognition. I have written extensively about this phenomenon on my blog (can't link in a RUclips comment sadly). The most interesting qualia memory flashbacks are those which I recognise... but not from this lifetime.
@@MichaelDembinski yes, I have such qualia memory flashbacks as well... would love to read your blog..perhaps you can share the name of your blog site. Thanks for highlighting 'qualia memories'✨
@@MichaelDembinski It's the unbidden experiences I find interesting. It's possible to accommodate physical smells that trigger olfactory memories, but a memory of a smell is like a Russian doll of memory, Its completeness of place, language and emotion seemingly lost to time, is too exhaustive to be described as a "memory". There are no prompts or cues, just a complete other mental landscape transposing itself on and contained within the present.
Are neurons the mental memory data bank of our past memories of smells?
If so, which Neuron decides what is Truth and what is not true?
I use a form of past life healing meditation in which I see people, events, places from other lives I have lived. I am seeking to heal old connections with people around me in this life. I am grateful and humbled by this process. It allows me to forgive ancient things and live more freely. This meditation takes me to what some call the Akashic record. Others will have a different name for it. Its always available through space and time. Collective Unconscious is another term I think, for it. Thank you for this lovely discussion.❤
My Déjà Vécu seizure trances are activated memories from parallel lives. I'm interested to know your thoughts on that 🪻
So then, are you sure they're lives that _you_ lived? If you're tapping into a collective memory, it could be anyone's "channel" you're tuning into.
The smell of the Madeleine…what a lovely concept. Now I have a term for that feeling of a memory. Also, that drawer, where we keep the memories, is like a hypnotic impression and whenever you mention it I am back in my mother’s kitchen. It wasn’t lovely there but I can remember the drawer pulls and everything white. Thank you.
Fascinating question. I have long practiced a kind of strategic uncertainty in order to keep the world in a magical superpositon of states.
Brilliant explication of memory - thank you!
Thank you for another enlightening conversation.🙏
Which Neuron decides what is Truth and what is not true?
Rupert, I love your content. I randomly found it this weekend and have been infatuated. I watched hours of your talks and every word sounded incredibly familiar. I haven’t read a book in probably 20+ years but have arrived at very similar conclusions to you. I would love to participate in your experiments or chat with you.
Whitehead drew quite heavily upon the ideas of Henri Bergson. Bergson, in the book Matter and Memory, outlines first some of these ideas that Whitehead and yourself and some others have also picked up on since then. It is interesting because it involves a complete paradigm shift in one's ontological outlook of the very nature of reality, and I think this is what puts some people off as, it's too radical a change for them to handle.
On watching the full video, I see you mention this background, it is so sad that real discussions about this kind of philosophical perspective have largely been hijacked by weak caricature positions like logical positivism and post modernism.
I have nothing to say about this specific subject due to my lack of knowledge, but sir your videos and lectures have revolutionised my way of thinking and how I viewed reality. Although I am not a christan, i am a muslim but it is a huge shock that muslims and christans agree on so much. Sir I would love if you express your views on islam and quran, as we muslims claim our holy book to be filled with scientific miracles. I might help us to learn something new and intresting.
Michael Levin has done fascinating work with Planarian worms. These are worms that can be cut in half and the tail grows a new head and the head grows a new tail. He has found that the worms with just a tail, grow a new head with memories.
Do you know that jews who cut their forsekin on the 8 th day grow back on their nose !
Thank you very much, Gentlemen, for an interesting and reflections provoking exchange.
Thank you for this talk. Could you continue? I would love to hear more.
More conversations with Bernardo Kastrup, please
Love Bernardo. He flipped from a materialist to an idealist.
Non-Scientist here - but can someone explain... In an entirely saturated, closed system - wouldn't time and movement itself naturally create morphic fields of increased probability through 'ontological hydraulics' - given that every action would affect everything else? The result being, that we end up as present-dwelling avatars of history. Or is that too simplistic?
Given the trajectory it should be like waves in an ever smaller pool increasing efficiency of morphic transfer. I am curious what his response is on this aspect. It seems like it implies a recent start to this process and a latter end of much more intelligent humans.
Very cool question!!
I like how you've just said something that my brain can _barely_ follow, and then follow it up with, "Or is that too simplistic?" ;)
I remember reoccurring "waking up" within a dream and saw that I was in "futuristic" space station being in a giant artificial gravity wheel having a fight with one of the doctors in white coats telling me: "it will all come back" (remembering) ... Seeing myself holding a fist as a symbol of resistance, what is happening to me ... Then slowly I remembered who he was and that I trusted him for a long, long time. Like I knew him for ages. That feeling of "complete safety & serenity" ... at that movement, I chose to accept anything they are doing to me was "necessary" for whatever purpose. I was laying on a sterile hospital type, comfortable adjustable bed with 4 people surrounding me. 2 on each side. One is pouring a jelly like liquid in to my face, another is injecting stuff on the other side of my head, and the other two were making sure I stayed in the chair-like bed.
Then I realized just before I "dozed off" that they betrayed my trust in them! ... This energy was SO strong it was totally imprinted to current "presence" here on Earth.
What I just explained here have two aspects: ... Somehow I know they think it is necessary what they do >>> and I feel/sense absolutely no "evil intent" >>> BUT they had to LIE to me to do things a certain way ... And that really pissed me off.
This is a reoccurring theme happened in so many different dreams/visions, and it felt like it happened in the future, sending me back to now here!
My whole life, am super allergic when people are not authentic, "playing nice" not being genuine ... and made it very clear to all why I feel the need to raise certain questions to learn WHY people behave in a certain way. Hence, psychology became like "breathing" to me. It is part of who I am now.
There is a pattern of having strong vivid "visionary" dreams, and mostly it is like getting an "upgrade" ... On average, I have them once a few years. But now I have them multiple times last few weeks ... So YES there IS something going right now and coming months.
What I have learned is that having access to "instant awareness" at the moment it is needed to have that kind of access ... is "totally normal" and extremely common in the "after life" or "spiritual world" hence there is no need for having a "memory" like physical Earth people do ... Memories can be altered because of our injected projections/expectations/interpretations mixed with emotions that are mostly traumas of the past, BLURRING (contaminating) factual unfiltered observations/experiences.
We assume we are defined having memories, and we are shaped through our experiences, correct? ... What if that is a form of self-conditioning preventing you gaining access to who you truly are?
How many different "workshops" & "therapies" out there that are about letting go of what is holding you back to live your life ... Going beyond the "eternal victim mode" ... "Poor me mentality" breeds more than often "poor me reality".
When we meditate and succeed to (temporary) become FREE from (judgmental) labels we use on almost anything 24/7 ... There is something inside ALL OF US that is beyond all "thinking" beyond all thoughts you had, have and going to have combined ... Same for all other people having thoughts about you, who you're "suppose to be" past present & future.
This "essence" is existence that goes much deeper than "having a memory" with all the "conclusions" & "interpretations" we are conditioned to have in a certain way.
Those who can not access "instant awareness" often depend on programmed behavior spoon-fed to them ... this could come from all kinds of self-imposed beliefs. Many of them are very helpful & useful to serve a specific purpose ... but not all!
I have created a unique "meditation technique" for myself and discussed it long time ago on Radio & TV Amsterdam in the mid 1990s getting lots of fascinating feedback from the audience.
Explaining that it may not work for you, but it does for me ... all depends on your attitude/mentality/self-imposed limitations etc. etc. ... If it does not work for you, I will not judge you being "bad" or being "dumb" or whatever ... Because I am fully aware that everybody is unique, having their own "spiritual journey" of "self discoveries" that is beyond having programmed assumptions.
I think Dr. Sheldrake has got some Morphic Resonance going on in the other room.
I always find it interesting how some memories are just memories -- whereas others -- when you recall them -- are accompanied by feelings, and with them a curious little burst of euphoria. if you could bottle that little burst of euphoria, I'd be a very happy man.
If you enjoyed the conversation then I would suggest you buy Rupert's book on morphic resonance, and no I don't have any financial interest in it whatsoever, however it is well worth the price to pay for some fascinating information and reasoning
there’s no reason anyone would think you had a financial interest in recommending dr Sheldrake’s book, any of his works are well worth reading
Funny, I just Uploaded a Terence McKenna Video with the Title "How Does Memory Work" last week, and last night, I was Working on a new Batch of RUclips Shorts of you and Terence Walking around The Fossil Museum and talking about Theories of Genetics and what-not..! 😍
I'm a bit mindblown at the point where you talk about spiders potentially having a collective memory that they draw upon to spin webs and such. Because I watched Charlotte's Web again recently, and noticed how, Charlotte seems to know plenty of things about the world that shouldn't be possible for her short lifespan. Plus, her children speak of themselves as "we" until Wilbur gives them the idea that they _can_ identify themselves as individuals. It made me think, 'Maybe spiders share a hivemind?' Because, you just know the animators tossed those details in there because they "felt right", rather than consciously planning to.
I love Rupert but I have to propose that _we just don’t know._ It’s ok to say that! There are a great many things we will never know.
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My chiropractic work is based on this idea
Thanks again for your interesting thoughts. I feel that sleep plays a very important part in memory function. Subconscious sense data from our 6 senses is constantly changing into information while we e are awake..,but when we sleep junk mail is discarded so that when we awake again in the new morning 🌅 we feel refreshed mentally and physically. The books i have read about sleeping haven't mentioned this. What do you think. My deep respect for your thoughts.
Waking dreams are remembered but normal dreams dreams are not. My theory is Waking Dreams are a link to the other side therefore they are remembered in detail as well My take is they are real. I ponder as yet science only postulates where memory is located, Science presumes memory is Global. Why not think of memory is perhaps stored somewhere else than our brain. Could all of us have a connection of different depths to the collective. Our Brains are only receivers or have limited processes in terms of memory.
You get it. Google CTMU for deeper understanding
Correct.
16:45 was interesting.
Something in what Mark said - there is a sense that we humans have lost something. Perhaps it is how we are are tuned to map the world and impressions onto thought and word - that in this process much nuance is lost. I imagine the process, or skill, has evolved with the fact that we are extraordinarly social animals - that any nuance lost has been made up for with the blunt instrument of the word.
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you made a comment to me, about reptilian minds, I have no idea where you got that from, David Icke?
Maybe that's why you removed it? (BTW being dyslexic myself ICKE to me reads I-cee-k [I seek] :O))
@@sr3d-microphones Hi. Yes. Let's see if I can remember it! The reference to reptilian minds was ... tell you what, a quick search on 'reptilian brain' will be more effective than me attempting to explain it. Very simply it is thought to be an older, deeper part of the brain, evolved in our very distant ancestors, and still functioning and carrying out essential tasks.
The idea was that perhaps the reptilian brain processed smells (rather than than the thought association that occurs in the higher brain). Olfactory senses being essential to our reptilian ancestors. Thus smells are handled differently to other memories. The mechanism is deeper hence the recall more vivid.
Hope you get the gist. Nothing to do with Icke! I wrote the comment only a few minutes in to the video. Something they later discussed caused me to delete it.
@@sr3d-microphones Actually, on reflection, I think the poorly explained mechanism in my original comment above is extremely significant. I've not heard the idea expressed before. I'll just add a little to it before I forget.
The idea is that primary to thought in terms of actual labels and words is feeling/emotion/vibe. When we think or recall first comes the vibe then there is a searching for a suitable word or phrase that is adequately close to the vibe to map on to it. The habit of mapping 'words' onto vibe is so habitual that we usually cease to even notice the vibe. Very young children experience the world in vibe.
@@sr3d-microphones Oh good grief, YT deleted my response. Google 'reptilian brain'. Deeper parts of the brain might deal with the sense of smell differently to other memories - because the mechanism is so very ancient. Also being deeper it may give rise to more vivid impressions.
@@sr3d-microphones YT seems to be messing with my comments. Not sure what you can see. Anyway the concept of our having a deeply embedded, more primal mind is well accepted I believe.
How can a person remember a past life with profound accuracy as a child like Ann Frank, there are others? Like the Boy who said he was a fighter pilot in WW2 they got him together with a wing buddy and this 80 plus year old had conversations and the child knew detail of Dog fights they were in !!!!!!!!!! No one else could have known the detail.
I think perhaps that when the brain is growing it perhaps matches someone else's brains “fingerprints” as it forms, and you are able to receive “memory” from the morphic fields that Rupert suggests, perhaps?
I think, with an open mind, that if the brain is a receiver of some sort, then as it morphs into an adult brain where it no longer changes form, i wonder if there is a possibility that it could match that pattern of someone else and then able to “receive” those thoughts or memories. I am sure that our brains are as different to each other as faces are, and we do often see people who are their doppelgangers.
Just an idea, of course. I do enjoy thinking outside the box, so to speak.
@@sr3d-microphones I am a seeker ever since my NDE, I will never be the same again, that in a way my eyes were opened. This way of thinking is much Like Professor Sheldrake. I think most humans with thick veils live there day (human lifetime) in total ignorance to the real place of our souls origin. My Goal is to teach others to seek the real wealth is NOT money but one to have a pure heart. My NDE opened a single day to me. It opened a previous lifetime and all those I loved there. I remember much detail. Know that seeking is likely to bring enlightenment.
It's hyper-unlikely that anyone can maintain any information "in-between cycles", but it's not entirely impossible. Implausible, YES. By a colossal, cosmic landslide. But impossible? No. Yet mankind doesn't pay it much regard, because the terrestrial is far more important to it than anything celestial, obviously.
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How about this:
All animals in the animal kingdom, apart from a few enlightened ones, must be completely ignorant of everything, except all of what it is they are doing in their waking moments. Perhaps the enlightened ones have a defect (or I could say ability) in their brains that opens up the world of enlightenment that enables them to have the imagination to see things on a level that is actually accurate that conforms to a reality that should not have been accessible to them. Like Neo falling out of his pod in the matrix where there was another reality hiding in our own very realm of existence.
the memories that appear in a CPU, or a HDD, can also appear in the cache of the cpu or the hdd. the same data can also be being held in the RAM.
The memory problem isn't a problem in the singularity idea... every possibe combination and permutation of absolutely everything the is even possible to exist already exists all the time all at once ... there doesn' t need to be local memory... the story is in the book before it's been in the eyes, then the optic nerve, then in the brain, then in the phenomenon knowns as interpretive imagination etc...
Local memory is stored in the gap between the topological edge of our physicality and the boundary of our energetic field. This is what we refer to as working memory, when in fact it's our ability to work our memory, from a conscious perspective. The topological edge of human skin works in conjunction with the boundary condition of the electromagnetic field, via Consciousness, to maintain homeostasis.
Matter and energy are both information but information isn't matter and energy - It's meaning relative to the observer.
memories are part of the mind which is part of consciousness never forgets, the brain is the weak link it has limited capability. An aunt who
suffered something like a stroke she recovered fully. The family asked what were you feeling, she told them she felt stupid, she wanted to
answer but she couldn't. She understood the question , knew the response but the meat puppet won't follow orders.
So in virtue what enhances memory thinking and will? Can this witness of memory, thinking and will, then be denied or dismantled? And again what denies or dismantles?
I also wonder about how 'reincarnation" could have gotten started, as there is a place where evey thing starts.
Nonetheless one can walk down memory lane. Take my wife for instance, or at least that photo of a beach that reminds me of the walk I had yesterday, with my wife. Focusing on my wife evokes a very complex 'chord' of impressions, some impressions in that chord jump to the surface, some can be teased out if there is purpose. The process of how that memory, at first a hazy, borderless kind of emotion kind of morphs or maps onto the world of things and words is intimately bound up in the process.
Am I the only one who felt sorry for all these animals experimented upon? Seems gruesome. Otherwise, fascinating conversation.
Yes I had to stop listening to the talk unfortunately; I thought dr Sheldrake had spoken against animal experiments and perhaps he did (or does)
It's absolutely horrible. They like to ckaim it's for medical help for people even though it's not people. They do it for amusement.
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To my mind the cruelty
In volved the these experiments renders them invalid
Cosmic Napoleonic code. Funny Rupert
People who have lost or born with very very little brain material and found out later in persons life, so they we're front loaded and told they were handicapped memories were perfectly normal in memory and motorskills.
Memory can be learned abilities and without it can be frustrating. I’m losing my memory and can already see the virtues of AI - personal server AI, not cloud AI.
Whatever you did not record and cannot accurately recall is forever lost. Thus, it's crucial to maintain as many impartial and accurate memories as one can, because once an individual is about to slip beyond the void veil... little if nothing can pass through.
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For a maestro to paint a master piece, the master uses the trace left in matter by events in time.This, to construct an imager from which meaning arises as a consequence from the master's choice. This is self expression. However There is a certain context where this arises from, of which I will not speak.
Hello Rupert, hello Mark 😊
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My mother died when I was 10. I have a set of about 20 specific memories. I never discover a new memory, no, oh I forgot about that.
I have often wondered when one is "reincarnated" what happens to the soul in the body taken over?
It would be quite fun if you would have a conversation on the World Soul
@@M_K171 if consciousness was the sea, we little avatars are simply raindrops returning to source- the trip from the cloud to the sea is very short and depending on your path where you land, you may not return for what seems like an eternity (freshwater lakes and icecaps are but a few obstacles on the way back for some). But when you do reach source you’d know everything that has been experienced, so I doubt you’d miss anything that’s been said at the ‘world soul’ party. 🎉
Very interesting concept the one of morphic resonance (MR)! I've never been convinced that the brain is a computer with a HDD for memory storage. To me it was a way of oversimplifying the problem of locating the memory; it was a shortcut by exaptation: a computer works like this, then, the brain must be the same or similar to a computer.
Moreover, MR could be a fundamental component by which tulpamancers access the memory of others by imaginaly personifying a particular individual.
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for a person with a mind which tends to say that everything is some wow connected you appear to be befuddled by the idea that every cell in your body, with an apparently good memory as it replaces those cells with regular regularity, participates to the fullest degree in every "thing" that your meandering mind participates in including the nonsense fantasies where the eye of your minds voice tends to show you who is doing all the looking tell you who is doing all the listening and whoa is he who is doing all the thinking and coming up with all of the answers to the questions that wind up having to be asked as the rest of the you who has a hard time remembering what he walked into the room for needs to constantly refer back to the memory of the cells who were not other wise occupied in the inter um and so still have the directions that were calculated in the initial run up to the run down that is giving your compromised mind another jolt of memory juice to fill the think tank with enough answers to make the soup smell appeteazing while the salt shaker is still hovering...
perhaps the solution to the di lemma is to stop looking in the place you thought the brain was and start looking where the action is that must be where the brain is/was/wool βε again when the battery located in the cranium dispenses the juice that the brains body lets said high level energy storage device know is happening through the sea which sees light sounds right and is the aether in condensed form flowing the show as the juice on the go aeither meets the message half way or some nonsense causes a short in the circuit and the same incorrect message turns the sane co muni cat ion into the same repet it ive heard that cat song before nonsense that only the lonely are ever asking for more of as cats meow from hot tin roofs in the heat of the night
the mind is in every cell of your wondering body and that big old battery located between the golden pillars of hera right there behind the eyes of the oracle horus wired into the horns of Ra where the vibratory picture of the frequency your salt water lenses just sent back through the pool of tears swimming around at the top of the bean stalk that jack runs up and down knowing in the stand that the in is out and the down is up when the left foot of some deep thinker lets the wondering you of you ness now in k what the temprature is in ten ways before the talker gets a complex number imagined and a unit tray sorted out for full ness of thought.
as with the nonsense that poor little old bobby sapolsky is babbling about people not being required to stop and think before acting because they are alive and that makes the thought process un knowable as much as it is for those who choose not to know it un control able.
substitute one word for the other and wala bobs your uncle...your mind is not located in the brain bucket shop unless the circuit which keeps your current flowing is shorted out as the result of too many nonsense ions bouncing around and consequently up against the idea of real reality that really exist in each cell down to the atom of your body that knows exactly how to keep you healthy happy and warm if only you the operator of the organs and thus the organ is mmmm would just shut up and listen to yourself speak with the ears you have to hear not through the head set that some bozo gave you for an X mass extinct ion pre sent present that if listened to often enough will kill you dead as a door nail sooner rather than later
What Neuron decides what is Truth and what is not true?
Every thing leaves a trace in space time . The trace is continuously present like a lock and key into the structure of space time. Re collate. re glue by reasoning,, calculus memory is a quantum calculus to find the best fit of ourselves in space time.
Ugh. Aristotle is the worst possible "place to start!" Aristotle changed a lot of the Platonic, Hermetic, Mystery religion insights, including what Memory was. Aristotle represents a decided left turn into the rational and the physical about which the ancients would be aghast. For the ancients, Memory was a spiritual being, or, at the least, created and aided by spiritual impulses. For the ancient Greeks, Memory was a goddess and the mother of the nine muses. Good on Sheldrake to get the conversation immediately back on track after this poor "start" so that we can end closer to the truth.
Absolutely! The turn from Plato to Aristotle with 13th century scholastics created the disastrous modern world
@@kyleelsbernd7566what exactly do you mean by this? I realise the Scholastics rediscovered a lot of previously forgotten to the West texts from Greece and Rome including philosophical and mathematical ones.
I know right.. He thought he knew all things too. Never rated him my friend
the only way that someone could find it interesting that a memory would be tied to time and place and feelings etc" is if they are making the mistake of artificially dissecting all of the various 'kinds' of sensory inputs as being independent... science constantly makes the mistake of IMAGINING that everything is nothing more than the sum of it's parts... the sum total of the body/brain/mind's ability to take in signal is ONE. It's a complete phenomenon so to speak...
too funny, Awareness pondering itself
I before I even begin to listen I hear through my esp hearing that sheldrake is with holding information he already knew. But who Am I to make such a claim….”I am” EA639
We just don't know what memory is. How they are made and most importantly if many memories we feel sure of are accurate at all. False memory via suggestion and stupid psychotherapy can also happen
I recently heard the term, "non-linear memory". Still don't understand.
It's complicated. One way to look at it is actually a little like the way digital drives have been programmed to handle data. The bottom line is that all too often, data files are fragmented and stored non-contiguously. The short analogy here is that your memory may not "totally, absolutely, perfectly" replay an event which you recall "in sequential order". In fact, it may even blend OTHER moments (sometimes non-related ones) into certain memories which don't truly belong, but somehow ended up "paired" with these events, triggers, etc. 🤔 It's not easy to explain because--like our dreams--both Time & Reality are FREEFORM during these moments. You may believe that you recall X, Y, or Z accurately, but unless you wrote it down or recorded it back when it happened... who knows what the truth of true is now!
Must give us pause.
Thank you for sharing these great conversations! We are ideas discovering memories through perceptions of time... God imagined our forms and lives into Be-ing. A world without Secrets and Lies is available for us all to choose, and the Truth will free us from the past.
The will is perception. That’s why when one says - Thy Will be done - what one is asking is a change of perception, a miracle. Surrendering the personal will to God has to do with surrendering the believe in perception and asking for truth to be revealed instead of assuming that it can be known through the mind.
To believe in the mind is making the mind God, or looking for salvation or truth where it can’t be found.
If we analyze the past, a memory is just how we perceived a certain event. It’s not necessarily what happened but only how we were perceiving it from a programmed mind in that moment of time; which only happened because there is an automatic recording system and an instant taking of authorship of the experience of the playing of the recording. It’s like a triple blind trick and we fall for it 99,9% of the time.
The ‘mind’ then is a recollection of programs trying to analyze recorded programs, and believing itself to be an object through different unconscious programs.
Even if one has a revelation of some truth, like love for example, the mind will take authorship of it and analyze it and make a distorted story out of it. The programmed mind distorts truth and project illusions. That’s all it does constantly. It can’t be trusted.
The Mind is actually silence and only a tiny bit of it is the thinking mind (ego) which takes all of the attention because of the vanity of ‘me’ and the fear of an imaginary death of the thing it believes itself to be.
The mind is a thief trying to play policeman. It distorts subjectivity into objectivity and that’s how it creates the illusion of separation, which all minds agree to, because they all have the same operative system (narcissism).
Magneto-dielectric Neurochemistry w/water memory is how your memories are created.
Magnetically and Electrically Affected/Charged Neurons interfacing w/organs & simulcasting Conscious Life like a computer, helps bridge the abstract.
The "water memory" of water & chemistry of the elements your body is made of, helps store the Specific Neuro-Chemistry of events throughout one's life.
Rupert..commenting as I go..memory as his history kicks in with Aristotle…Anyone who tackles memory must surely start with Homer..With the psychotherapist is he now Fable?? Dismissed??? Where would Aristotle kick in as a given historical figure ..The psychotherapist can say easily..yes yes ..in the teachings of Aristotle..like he’s a contemporary of Jung!!!.. yes spiders spinning webs..birds building nests.. no teacher..Schopenhauer!
How can you possibly dismiss a master..of decades your senior(40 years)!! Well.. colour and migration.. a fabulous start!!
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Memories are everything you are. Without them, consider what or who you'd be. If upon tomorrow you awakened with SOLELY your motor controls and understanding of English and speech, but NOTHING else... "who" would you be? Nothing. No one. A useless, empty and blank slate. And that's PRECISELY what happens when you're born; you can carry nothing beyond the void veil.
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"Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In time, all points converge; hope's strength, resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again."
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@@Novastar.SaberCombat all the other animals don’t seem to know anything else apart from what’s in their awakening moments, I doubt very much they think what they did yesterday, unless they see something that had an impact on them in a past memory.
Are we fortunate to be able to have the ability to do what we do (with our abilities with memory), or is it an unfortunate accident that impacts everything in the animal kingdom?
Anyone here have epilepsy Déjà Vu of previous parallel lives?
While Sheldrake identifies typology of memory supported by quite recent psychological and, separately, cognitive neuroscientific controlled experiment,, his interlocutor here digresses into some nonprovable beliefs and analogies.
Evolved processes creating perception of salience, valence, and updating of those perceptions due to constantly flowing novel sensory input impel associational process.
While brained organismsdo possess some consistency of architecture, from molecular, genetic, and transcriptional & translational processes, sensory cuing of memory is best recognized as living, changing (due to glial monitoring and modification of synapses, for useful energetic reasons. I am more interested in completing a useful comment than the elaboration, which would require considerable biological background, beyond that of most auditors, philosophers, or others biased toward simplistic explanations). process. It is adaptation so honed by ?ong selection
Accidental preposting while trying to eli.inate typo.
All organisms are adapted to the systems in which they live. Humans, for example, are biased tpward intrahuman sociality, and as a result, skew perceptions and associations to utility, or lack of, as human narratives.
Language, not essential to molecularly sensing organisms,is vulnerable to intentional deceptive simulation of reality.
Our other biases somewhat deceive us into the very analytical typology occurring in our conflating verbal simulations and the more individual, complex, sensory nature of memory of experience, with its different associative connections.
Memory, then, IS essentially similar to implicit memory. The human social nature introduces numerous, sometimes varying, biases.
We will Insist upon our individually biased interpretations of a memory, entangled as it is with associations meaningful to the individual, and changing in emphasis, among other dimensions.
We cannot sense any event for which our evolved senses are not adapted, and thus miss or diminish the very sensory experiences we do remember, sometimes, even a lifetime distant, change our emphases on aspects of what may have been, but is not now, salient to us.
Studying some spatial, social, and associational memories of other intelligent species, i reject caryesian delisions and words, such as those involving "deities" or "spirits" which, although Sheldrick is sincere, he allows in his anthropocentric interlocutor, without challenge.
In other wprds, he fails to challenge deceptions here.
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I like most of this video, except the pseudo-christian intro that propagates the indo-euopean ideology that I can clearly see through, and which I don;t abide in a context like this
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Please tell me, where are the memories of those with brain disease, Alzheimer's, FTD or Parkinson's induced dementia?
@@loriw1234 seems like morphic fields are more likely as if the brain is a receiver of memory - then the buildup of plaques? Could very well be the stuff that inhibits memory reception? My own father didn’t recognise me, but knew I was someone important to him, so getting something from memory, but not full clarity. Some can focus on very early memories but the more recent ones are impacted, the more you think about it the more this seems a likely reason if indeed the brain has a receiver of some kind, that simply becomes more and more defocused starting with the reception of recent recollection first, then goes deep and deeper into the brain as the disease progresses.
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Terminal lucidity is a well-attested phenomenon, known to hospice workers and others. People with long term dementia will become talkative and coherent shortly before their death. It's as if their physical hard drive crashed, and their spiritual mainframe computer defrags the contents before setting it aside for more important duties.
@@borderlands6606 I think you have a point,,, its like the brain is almost dead and the info comes from outside,, like a phone .
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